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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I'll tell you after I breed to Five Bar Cartel :)
I think if there were any problems with them, there wouldn't be that many nice one's out there. I'm just guessing though. |
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Location: Mountains of VA | I do not own one. However, the ones I see here in the east are like fire breathing dragons crossed on walking horses. They are fast but hot with front legs flying and start sweating as soon as they are saddled. More like a specialty horse in my opinion. Plus, they seem to have lots of lameness issues.
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Location: Texas | I've never seen one that wasn't hot. Like 5+ on the temperment scale. Worth it IMO though if you want a nice barrel horse. |
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Location: Kentucky | FLITASTIC - 2014-12-05 6:55 PM They are super fast learners so you better teach them right the first time because it sticks! Lol
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| They are super smart, usually on the sensitive side and "hot", not for beginners or novice riders. Obviously they all have blazing speed and are athletic. They are well known for lameness and health issues, especially stifle problems. I have heard a lot of the 2 and 3 yr olds on the race track get bone chips in their knees. I have owned and ridden several. Some of them have been pretty hot. A couple of them very quiet and good natured. It depends on what their mother is. |
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Location: Texas | They sound like they would fit me <3 <3. I like a sensitive hotter horse. I am better and calming down a hot horse than hyping up a laid back one.
I will say, my DTF grandson is such a laid back colt I don't see him being like any of this. He is just a weanling but everything has been so easy with him... and he's got FDD on the bottom too. |
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Location: Mucking my stalls!! | So true... My DTF is soooo talented and just the nicest horse I have had the pleasure to own... but can find a way to get hurt in a padded room!! No self preservation at all....
But I am lucky to have him.... He is a full brother to Kassidy Dennison's horse and super excited for her.... |
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| The DTF horses in my area are all the same. Veeeeery sensitive and hot. Not a single one made it to the futurities the last few years due to stifle problems (yep...all of them). They are athletic as hell and fast. I think the other posters really hit the nail on the head, they are overly sensitive and don't have any self preservation. |
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Location: Texas | what was wrong with their stifles? OCD? ligament tears? arthritis? were they all trained by the same person or were they spread out? |
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Location: USA | Are we talking own sons and daughters... or grandget? |
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Location: Kentucky | Lookin For Diamonds - 2014-12-06 8:10 PM Are we talking own sons and daughters... or grandget?
Grandget. |
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Location: TX | I am interested to know what was wrong with the stifles as well. |
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Location: Here | 3ToBurn - 2014-12-06 11:39 AM They push themselves so hard that they hurt themselves. No self preservation instinct. Keep them in a padded room if you want them to say alive.
Mine has shown lots of self preservation and try. She dang sure seems to know how to take care of herself. I am a huge fan. We are honored to have 2. one Amy Schimke (rockins) hauls and runs for us. Amazing athletes |
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| I don't know the true diagnosis for all of them unfortunately, but my cousin had 2 with sticky stifles and 1 with cysts.
The one thing I've noticed with the DTF line is their height. These 3 were all 16 hands at 2 y/o. Wonder if their height and large bone set plays into the soundness issues? |
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Location: Here | Murphy - 2014-12-06 7:49 PM Lookin For Diamonds - 2014-12-06 8:10 PM Are we talking own sons and daughters... or grandget? Grandget.
There are a lot more variable in grand jet. I always figure when someone ask about a sire it is a own get.... A lot of grandget are out of hot dams... So hard to judge that |
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Location: California | Haven't owned one personally, but my friend has had quite a few, and they weren't her cup of tea. and this is a real hand around horses, not a blow them up for the sake of a buck type. She has steered clear since. IMO, we are all imperfect. I have a hard time willingly buying/taking on a horse that is a "be careful how you train" because they aren't forgiving. There are some GREAT ones out there, but like with anything, you take a chance until you get to know the indivdual horse. |
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| turnedout - 2014-12-07 7:37 PM I don't know the true diagnosis for all of them unfortunately, but my cousin had 2 with sticky stifles and 1 with cysts. The one thing I've noticed with the DTF line is their height. These 3 were all 16 hands at 2 y/o. Wonder if their height and large bone set plays into the soundness issues?
You can't just blame that on dtf it could be the mare or nutrition also |
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| aqhabarrelchic1 - 2014-12-06 11:28 PM
turnedout - 2014-12-07 7:37 PM I don't know the true diagnosis for all of them unfortunately, but my cousin had 2 with sticky stifles and 1 with cysts. The one thing I've noticed with the DTF line is their height. These 3 were all 16 hands at 2 y/o. Wonder if their height and large bone set plays into the soundness issues?
You can't just blame that on dtf it could be the mare or nutrition also
Not saying it is guarantee and thats what the DTF passes. Just saying in my experience, 3 different mares +DTF stud = 3 stifle issues. |
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Location: Here | aqhabarrelchic1 - 2014-12-06 11:28 PM turnedout - 2014-12-07 7:37 PM I don't know the true diagnosis for all of them unfortunately, but my cousin had 2 with sticky stifles and 1 with cysts. The one thing I've noticed with the DTF line is their height. These 3 were all 16 hands at 2 y/o. Wonder if their height and large bone set plays into the soundness issues? You can't just blame that on dtf it could be the mare or nutrition also
I agree Nutrition is a huge key with these bigger framed hard working horses. |
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Location: Texas | cysts are just as much a management problem as they are potentially genetic. mare nutrition while she is pregnant is huge, as well as foal nutrition (excesses or deficiencies of nutrients are just as significant), as well as foal exercise. There are so many factors before the horse is even 2 years old that will predetermine the health of their bones and joints. as far as sticky stifles go- that is also just as much a fitness problem as it can be genetic. We have had horses who were totally normal get stifles to stick after time off due to loss in muscle tone. Especially after a procedure or stall rest.
I had someone tell me once that FGs threw OCDs and for a short time I fell for it but honestly, OCDs are multifactorial... can be just as much a man made problem as it predisposed genetically. Anything developmental has a huge nutritional and physiologic component to it. |
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Location: Here | casualdust07 - 2014-12-07 10:17 AM cysts are just as much a management problem as they are potentially genetic. mare nutrition while she is pregnant is huge, as well as foal nutrition (excesses or deficiencies of nutrients are just as significant), as well as foal exercise. There are so many factors before the horse is even 2 years old that will predetermine the health of their bones and joints. as far as sticky stifles go- that is also just as much a fitness problem as it can be genetic. We have had horses who were totally normal get stifles to stick after time off due to loss in muscle tone. Especially after a procedure or stall rest. I had someone tell me once that FGs threw OCDs and for a short time I fell for it but honestly, OCDs are multifactorial... can be just as much a man made problem as it predisposed genetically. Anything developmental has a huge nutritional and physiologic component to it.
Exactly And pasture raised with free exercise with ANY bloodline in a foal is in important. To blame a blood line is just wrong. As far as chipping on the track... Hello lots of "bloodlines" chip. You know why? Lots of variables, the horse wasn't physically developed yet to run and train that hard, Nutrition, raising environment. There is documentation regarding stall raised with walker vs pasture raised to show stall raised has high risks of skeletal problems. |
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Location: Here | One last thought and I will hush... Hot? well hello these are running bloodlines. The industry is demanding faster quicker turns. More and more race blood is becoming the standard in barrel "Racing"... If you are looking for a 3D 4D horse then you might want to stay clear of running bloodlines... |
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| SG. - 2014-12-07 11:30 AM
One last thought and I will hush... Hot? well hello these are running bloodlines. The industry is demanding faster quicker turns. More and more race blood is becoming the standard in barrel "Racing"... If you are looking for a 3D 4D horse then you might want to stay clear of running bloodlines...
The hottest horses I've ever been on were the cutters I used to ride.
After reading this thread, if there weren't tons of evidence to the contrary you'd think DTF threw a psycho cripple LOL. I'm excited to see my chromed out red baby arrive in March! |
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Location: Okemah,OK | I have 2 DTF's, a 2 year old gelding (the one in my avatar) & a yearling filly (out of the yellow mares daughter). The gelding is very laid back, smart (but not too smart) & people friendly. The filly was pretty touchy as a baby but we put her in with one of our ranch type horses and she's really calmed down and come around. I have no doubt she's gonna be hotter and a little more work than the gelding but they're both pretty nice to be around. She just took more time whereas he was born that way. |
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Location: IN | My best friend have a filly grow too fast. She was on stall rest for a year. And couldn't do anything with her till she was 5. She's an amazing horse now! |
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Location: Kentucky | kuhlmann - 2014-12-07 8:55 PM SG. - 2014-12-07 11:30 AM One last thought and I will hush... Hot? well hello these are running bloodlines. The industry is demanding faster quicker turns. More and more race blood is becoming the standard in barrel "Racing"... If you are looking for a 3D 4D horse then you might want to stay clear of running bloodlines...
After reading this thread, if there weren't tons of evidence to the contrary you'd think DTF threw a psycho cripple LOL. I'm excited to see my chromed out red baby arrive in March!
That's what I'm thinking too. Too many people have them and too many have seen success to be dealing with cripple psychos, lol.
I am heavily considering breeding my mare to a son of DTF, and that line really hasn't made it's way in my area yet so I haven't really seen many run in person.
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| Look at it like this. There are department store Santas and then the big man himself. We all know the department store ones have a large degree of variability. The big man though, he is legendary.
I bred to the big man. If I were to go to a department store I'd just make sure he had a real beard and no padding in the suit.
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Location: Texas | kuhlmann - 2014-12-08 7:55 AM
Look at it like this. There are department store Santas and then the big man himself. We all know the department store ones have a large degree of variability. The big man though, he is legendary.
I bred to the big man. If I were to go to a department store I'd just make sure he had a real beard and no padding in the suit.
I swear I haven't been drinking this morning LOL!
you just made my day before my pathology final exam. Thank you :) BTHO Path! |
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Location: In a happy place | kuhlmann - 2014-12-07 7:55 PM SG. - 2014-12-07 11:30 AM One last thought and I will hush... Hot? well hello these are running bloodlines. The industry is demanding faster quicker turns. More and more race blood is becoming the standard in barrel "Racing"... If you are looking for a 3D 4D horse then you might want to stay clear of running bloodlines...
After reading this thread, if there weren't tons of evidence to the contrary you'd think DTF threw a psycho cripple LOL. I'm excited to see my chromed out red baby arrive in March!
I agree with the cutters. They can be really hot. |
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Location: Kentucky | kuhlmann - 2014-12-08 8:55 AM Look at it like this. There are department store Santas and then the big man himself. We all know the department store ones have a large degree of variability. The big man though, he is legendary.
I bred to the big man. If I were to go to a department store I'd just make sure he had a real beard and no padding in the suit.
I swear I haven't been drinking this morning LOL!
I wish I had the budget for the "big man breeding" haha! If I did, that's what I would do, no question. |
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Location: Online | Never owned one, never will, unless I got one to start and flip because people will buy them just because of the DTF. They are fragile. I have many friends who train and run them. Every one of them has some sort of soundness issue. It's rare that they make it through a whole year without having some issue that causes them to have months off. Usually it's in the back end. Yes, they are fast and come along fast, but I think that may be the reason for the soundness. Too much too soon? Hard to say. But you rarely see one compete consistently for more than a couple of years.
Yes there are some older DTF's that are still running, but they have had their share of time off due to soundness. |
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Location: Way up North | I have two grandget, full siblings, so take MO with a grain of salt but so far I really like them. The two year is a filly and the yearling is a gelding.
The filly is much more feely and sensitive than the gelding but she isn't overreactive or 'hot', the colt is just going to be the type to handle more pounding than the filly but I have found that is generally the case with geldings vs. mares. Both are very inquisitive and like to be be worked.
I opted to send the 2 yr old out to be started and the trainer had nothing but good things to report. She has a big motor and likes to go but she isn't real fractious or ramrodish (not that that is a word). She is going to take a bit for me to get used to because the horse I am running right now is a bit of deadhead gelding but I really like her so far. She wants to go places but she is still really ratey which I like in a horse and she is sooo smooth. She will be the type I will have to watch for ulcers because she is more sensitive and will probably stress but she has handled the little hauling she has had so far well.
As far as growth, the filly has been a pretty fast grower, tall and on the willowy side right now but not bad but the colt is going to be shorter and he is pretty thick with a ton of bone to him. He looks like a little rope pony and she looks more racey. I don't feed mine up like a lot of people do and they are on fulltime turnout, a big hilly pasture in summer and paddock all winter so I am not sure how that will factor into long term soundness but I am hoping it is positive. They aren't babied and living in the frozen tundra that have to learn to deal with the elements and be pretty sure footed.
We futurity five and under up here and I will probably hold them over till 5 just because I can. I have no indoor to ride in during the winter so waiting will give me extra time to get them ready as well as letting them benefit from breaks to mature and get stronger. These are my first race breds and I would gladly take more! I have always rode the cowhorse/cutter reject types and really like them but I think these two are going to be what I need to step up.
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Location: Southeastern Idaho | I will weigh in on my first ever DTF grandson out of a HOT cutter bred mare. I bred and raised him, turned out as much as possible since he was born. He is 2 years old, wears an O shoe, and stands at 15.1 hands so far. (knees haven't closed so I am not sure how big he will get). So do they get big....check. Lameness....not enough data on this guy yet as he is 2, and I don't use my 2 year olds hard. They get 30 days and turned out, ask me next summer. :) Temperament....KIND. My 78 year old dad started this colt for me this fall. Told me to send him down because "he is gentle as a dog, let me break him". Pic below is my bro-in-law putting the first ride on him. Don't worry, we took care of my dad. :)
Never bucked and never offered but when let out to play this guy will PLAY. Runs hard and rolls back on the fence, kind of spooked my dad...after he witnessed Dually playing this hard he called my bro-in-law to get on him just in case. And once again this colt never offered to buck or run off with him. Anxious for spring to come so I can get back on him and see how things will go.
Take my info with a grain of salt since I don't have any other DTF's to compare it with. Just thought I would put it in the mix.
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Location: Texas | Can I just throw it out there that all of our 1D horses have/have had an issue of their own as well? And none of them are Dash Ta Fames. Honestly, when they are running that hard, something is going to hurt at some point.
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| Obviously they have dominated at the barrel races......my reason I have owned several, all OWN sons and daughters. I can tell you these have all had top feed programs, lots of pasture turnout, frequent dental care, frequent worming, good shoers, and the same daily exercise as dozens more that I have rode with other bloodlines. I'm not trying to bash them. I just told the truth. The majority of them have stifle issues......some have ligaments too loose, some too tight. I'm not at liberty to name names but some of the biggest, winningest trainers out there treat every one of them for EPM. It is commonly believed they have weak immune systems. I'm just saying from my own experience they have been walking vet bills, big vet bills, and I will not buy another one. I am steering clear of that bloodline. I hope the grandget don't have all the issues I have seen in the own sons and daughters but time will tell. I will say all of mine have had hearts larger than life. They will never quit trying, even when they are hurting, which makes it hard to tell when they ARE hurting.
I don't know who RodeoMom is on here, but I believe she knows what she is talking about. I also believe they are predisposed to the hind end problems due to their conformation. One of mine that had the most problems had 3 stifle surgeries (split ligaments) as a 4 yr old, had to be long trotted 3-4 miles every day and/or go to the aquatred to keep his hind end conditioned enough to be able to use him.
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| quickdraw - 2014-12-09 11:15 AM
Obviously they have dominated at the barrel races......my reason I have owned several, all OWN sons and daughters. I can tell you these have all had top feed programs, lots of pasture turnout, frequent dental care, frequent worming, good shoers, and the same daily exercise as dozens more that I have rode with other bloodlines. I'm not trying to bash them. I just told the truth. The majority of them have stifle issues......some have ligaments too loose, some too tight. I'm not at liberty to name names but some of the biggest, winningest trainers out there treat every one of them for EPM. It is commonly believed they have weak immune systems. I'm just saying from my own experience they have been walking vet bills, big vet bills, and I will not buy another one. I am steering clear of that bloodline. I hope the grandget don't have all the issues I have seen in the own sons and daughters but time will tell. I will say all of mine have had hearts larger than life. They will never quit trying, even when they are hurting, which makes it hard to tell when they ARE hurting.
I don't know who RodeoMom is on here, but I believe she knows what she is talking about. I also believe they are predisposed to the hind end problems due to their conformation. One of mine that had the most problems had 3 stifle surgeries (split ligaments) as a 4 yr old, had to be long trotted 3-4 miles every day and/or go to the aquatred to keep his hind end conditioned enough to be able to use him.
A question I have for everyone, how many have you seen compete consistently that are over 10 yrs old?
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Location: Desert Land | quickdraw - 2014-12-08 11:15 AM ..... A question I have for everyone, how many have you seen compete consistently that are over 10 yrs old?
Too many to count!!!
One is currently at the NFR that was ran at the track, ran as a futurity horse, an open horse and now this year as a prorodeo horse went to 67 rodeos to qualify for the NFR. If that doesn't scream tough, sound, gritty horse I don't know what does.
There are quite a few that have been race horses, futurity, derby, open, rodeo horses and stayed sound. That lifestyle is grueling on ANY bloodline. |
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| I have a coming two year old stud colt that is the smartest, most laid back guy. I do think his bottom side helps a lot with these attributes as well--it takes two. He is definitely going to be a big boy, but I am just tickled to get him going. You show him something once, and consider it learned. I can see how in the wrong hands this could also be detrimental, and I can see how it would be easy to push them too much too soon.
I'm lucky that I am not on any sort of time frame to rush him and I pray he has none of these issues people mentioned as we start hauling. He is/will be an athlete, and with that, issues will arise. At the end of the day either way, I will still have an awesome stud that I am tickled pink about.
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Location: Texas | quickdraw - 2014-12-08 1:15 PM
Obviously they have dominated at the barrel races......my reason I have owned several, all OWN sons and daughters. I can tell you these have all had top feed programs, lots of pasture turnout, frequent dental care, frequent worming, good shoers, and the same daily exercise as dozens more that I have rode with other bloodlines. I'm not trying to bash them. I just told the truth. The majority of them have stifle issues......some have ligaments too loose, some too tight. I'm not at liberty to name names but some of the biggest, winningest trainers out there treat every one of them for EPM. It is commonly believed they have weak immune systems. I'm just saying from my own experience they have been walking vet bills, big vet bills, and I will not buy another one. I am steering clear of that bloodline. I hope the grandget don't have all the issues I have seen in the own sons and daughters but time will tell. I will say all of mine have had hearts larger than life. They will never quit trying, even when they are hurting, which makes it hard to tell when they ARE hurting.
I don't know who RodeoMom is on here, but I believe she knows what she is talking about. I also believe they are predisposed to the hind end problems due to their conformation. One of mine that had the most problems had 3 stifle surgeries (split ligaments) as a 4 yr old, had to be long trotted 3-4 miles every day and/or go to the aquatred to keep his hind end conditioned enough to be able to use him.
A question I have for everyone, how many have you seen compete consistently that are over 10 yrs old?
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Location: Online | TheOldGrayMare - 2014-12-08 12:43 PM quickdraw - 2014-12-08 11:15 AM ..... A question I have for everyone, how many have you seen compete consistently that are over 10 yrs old? Too many to count!!!
One is currently at the NFR that was ran at the track, ran as a futurity horse, an open horse and now this year as a prorodeo horse went to 67 rodeos to qualify for the NFR. If that doesn't scream tough, sound, gritty horse I don't know what does.
There are quite a few that have been race horses, futurity, derby, open, rodeo horses and stayed sound. That lifestyle is grueling on ANY bloodline.
Which horse is at the NFR that's over 10 and a DTF?
Law of averages.... There are probably nearly 1000 DTF barrel horses. What percentage of those horses are consistently running year after year?
I would take a horse bred like Stingray or Louie or Cowboy any day over a Dash ta Fame. They are durable and gritty.
It would be interesting to see if someone actually had a DTF that they went slow with, did not futurity. Waited for them to grow physically and not push until they were ready. I wonder if it would have the same soundness issues. Just a thought. |
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| rodeomom13 - 2014-12-08 2:25 PM
TheOldGrayMare - 2014-12-08 12:43 PM quickdraw - 2014-12-08 11:15 AM ..... A question I have for everyone, how many have you seen compete consistently that are over 10 yrs old? Too many to count!!!
One is currently at the NFR that was ran at the track, ran as a futurity horse, an open horse and now this year as a prorodeo horse went to 67 rodeos to qualify for the NFR. If that doesn't scream tough, sound, gritty horse I don't know what does.
There are quite a few that have been race horses, futurity, derby, open, rodeo horses and stayed sound. That lifestyle is grueling on ANY bloodline.
Law of averages.... There are probably nearly 1000 DTF barrel horses. What percentage of those horses are consistently running year after year?
I would take a horse bred like Stingray or Louie or Cowboy any day over a Dash ta Fame. They are durable and gritty.
It would be interesting to see if someone actually had a DTF that they went slow with, did not futurity. Waited for them to grow physically and not push until they were ready. I wonder if it would have the same soundness issues. Just a thought.
Kassidy Dennison's Eagle is an own get of DTF ... I think he's close to 10 right?? Or did I mess that one up?
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| lindseylou2290 - 2014-12-08 2:41 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-12-08 2:25 PM TheOldGrayMare - 2014-12-08 12:43 PM quickdraw - 2014-12-08 11:15 AM ..... A question I have for everyone, how many have you seen compete consistently that are over 10 yrs old? Too many to count!!!
One is currently at the NFR that was ran at the track, ran as a futurity horse, an open horse and now this year as a prorodeo horse went to 67 rodeos to qualify for the NFR. If that doesn't scream tough, sound, gritty horse I don't know what does.
There are quite a few that have been race horses, futurity, derby, open, rodeo horses and stayed sound. That lifestyle is grueling on ANY bloodline.
Law of averages.... There are probably nearly 1000 DTF barrel horses. What percentage of those horses are consistently running year after year?
I would take a horse bred like Stingray or Louie or Cowboy any day over a Dash ta Fame. They are durable and gritty.
It would be interesting to see if someone actually had a DTF that they went slow with, did not futurity. Waited for them to grow physically and not push until they were ready. I wonder if it would have the same soundness issues. Just a thought. Kassidy Dennison's Eagle is an own get of DTF ... I think he's close to 10 right?? Or did I mess that one up? JMO - but it takes 2 to make the foal. Don't forget that the mare will and can pass her mind/ attitude/ etc on to the foal as well.... it's not just the stud that creates these babies : )
Eagle is 9 started 2 races. I dont know if he ran any futurities. |
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| But Tommy, Brittneys back up horse is 12 and he had 9 starts. |
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| Whiteboy - 2014-12-08 2:48 PM
But Tommy, Brittneys back up horse is 12 and he had 9 starts.
There we go! I forgot about him! :) |
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | Mine are grand get so take that with a grain of salt but out of my 3- one is solid and no issues. The other- OCD issues in his rear fetlock and we treated for EPM. Ironically, the EPM statement I have heard MANY times as well. The 3rd is only a weanling so time will tell. I bred all of these but the first (and only one with issues) was boarded so I was not in control of his feeding and care until he was 2. That is part of his issues. I have X-rayed both older colts because of the OCD issues with my first. No issues with the second at all. I love mine. Their mother is a horse I have owned for 11 years and is quiet as a church mouse.....so are all of them. Dams are the most overlooked thing.....even in DTF. Love all of mine and I don't blame soundness on the DTF lines. |
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Location: Desert Land | Whiteboy - 2014-12-08 12:44 PM lindseylou2290 - 2014-12-08 2:41 PM rodeomom13 - 2014-12-08 2:25 PM TheOldGrayMare - 2014-12-08 12:43 PM quickdraw - 2014-12-08 11:15 AM ..... A question I have for everyone, how many have you seen compete consistently that are over 10 yrs old? Too many to count!!!
One is currently at the NFR that was ran at the track, ran as a futurity horse, an open horse and now this year as a prorodeo horse went to 67 rodeos to qualify for the NFR. If that doesn't scream tough, sound, gritty horse I don't know what does.
There are quite a few that have been race horses, futurity, derby, open, rodeo horses and stayed sound. That lifestyle is grueling on ANY bloodline.
Law of averages.... There are probably nearly 1000 DTF barrel horses. What percentage of those horses are consistently running year after year?
I would take a horse bred like Stingray or Louie or Cowboy any day over a Dash ta Fame. They are durable and gritty.
It would be interesting to see if someone actually had a DTF that they went slow with, did not futurity. Waited for them to grow physically and not push until they were ready. I wonder if it would have the same soundness issues. Just a thought. Kassidy Dennison's Eagle is an own get of DTF ... I think he's close to 10 right?? Or did I mess that one up? JMO - but it takes 2 to make the foal. Don't forget that the mare will and can pass her mind/ attitude/ etc on to the foal as well.... it's not just the stud that creates these babies : )
Opps...sorry only 9.
Chris Duke Ran him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d2goPlX91eE |
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