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| Everyone will agree the ground is awful - but can we as spectators help out our girls in Vegas. I think we can. Today and everyday the ground remains dangerous lets mount a campaign to use social media to get the ground committee and NFR judges attention. I am not a social media guru but I KNOW it can be done. Hash tag every thing NFR sponsor, Joe Beaver, Jeff Meadows pre show people etc you can with complaints about the ground. Come on barrel racers - lets have action instead of just complaints. Thank everyone |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | I would hope the WPRA is up this morning addressing the ground issue with someone.......... |
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| jbw tx mom - 2014-12-06 9:00 AM
Everyone will agree the ground is awful - but can we as spectators help out our girls in Vegas. I think we can. Today and everyday the ground remains dangerous lets mount a campaign to use social media to get the ground committee and NFR judges attention. I am not a social media guru but I KNOW it can be done. Hash tag every thing NFR sponsor, Joe Beaver, Jeff Meadows pre show people etc you can with complaints about the ground. Come on barrel racers - lets have action instead of just complaints. Thank everyone
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Location: Florida.. | Its already all over the internet so lets see if action is taken |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | CJE - 2014-12-06 9:06 AM I would hope the WPRA is up this morning addressing the ground issue with someone..........
Ha! I'll believe that when I see it. The WPRA "leadership" is scared to make waves.
I went to bed posting all over FB and woke up this morning doing the same. With so many of us making noise, I hope we get someone's attention. I have been watching the NFR for over 20 years and have seen decent ground and not so great, but I've never seen it as bad as it was last night. There is no excuse for it. |
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| Yes the WPRA is afraid to complain to much - as an organization - The WPRA is an invited guest to the NFR - it is NOT their show. That is the reason we as barrel racers and individuals need to take action, not just complain on our personal FB page. Bring it out loud and clear that we as the spectators are not happy with the ground conditions. PRCA can treat us any way they want to because we are NOT part of their organization. I was pleasantly surprised they even aired all 15 barrel racers because they certainly don't have to. Again the barrel racers are guest to the party. I think we can help our top girls by using social media. Please help them as I feel their hands are tied and cant really say what they want to. BUT we can - team effort - thanks again |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Blow up this FB page.........
https://www.facebook.com/LasVegasNFR
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| I asked on Twitter for @LasVegasNFR to read their own facebook comments. Please retweet from @janetcbarrels  |
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Location: IN MY OWN LITTLE WORLD AT LEAST THEY KNOW ME HERE | Here's what I posted on FB nfr page
Sad when even bucking stock are stumbling n falling.
You'd think since Vegas romanced the prca to stay n Vegas they'd have good dirt for this prestigious event. Never seen so many downed barrels. All r running on top the dirt slipping and sliding. Pretty sad venue. See better footing at a playday.
No excuse.
Fix the dirt. |
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| YES - this is what I am talking about - Lets GO - Lets make a DIFFERENCE !!!! |
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Location: Texas | I just rewatched last night round and yes there a lot of barrels hit, but almost every one can be attributed to the ground. So sad. I know there is a lot of money out there to win, but would seriously be considering running my grand entry horse unless the ground issue is fixed. Just saying. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR |
I started on them just after midnight and hit them again this morning. Haha |
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Location: CTX | Hopefully they are reading all our posts and will do something about it! Can't believe one year there is a arena record and the next year they are half a second to a second behind that!!
And we can't blame the ladies for ging for safe....
Edited by cranky B4 10am 2014-12-06 11:29 AM
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| Posted to the FB page. Hope they fix the ground! |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Wonder how big a trouble the girls would get in if they all wore the T-shirt Fallon has at her booth that says "You're shifter than Rodeo Ground" LOL!!! And came in on Shetland ponies...if they are gonna treat it like just another dog and pony show might as well join em'. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | It's not just the barrel racers at risk, everyone is. Including the rough stock, can you imagine landing on it? Sad! |
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Location: London Ontario | I am waiti to see if someone has the guts to boycott by drawing out of a round |
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| That is why i dont do rodeo. I vote with my pocket book. Everytime i say something. I get the same on tired stuff. If you dont like it dont go, i dont. It has been that way for years, it doesnot have to be. But, that is why you see the same people and not much new blood as compaired to other things. I hppe the guy that runs the american, gets thing to look differently. Also, this is not the first nfr with bad ground. I just have a attitude against rodeo because theymdont want to change. Maybe with social media some one to change and change there attitudes. Can you imagine that if we went to a large barrel race and the ground was like they had last night. They would go broke. We as barrel racers would not,stand for it. The girls will not risk there money. About 10 years ago i went to a bulls and barrels ran my horse did not have the best run time wise, went and untacked. Had a man come to the stall said the horse before me had knocked a barrel and some one did not put it on tye marker about 4 foot different. Had it on tape. Not only did the do that none of barrel where staked and it was 10 girls, 10 bulls, and so on. They moved timers and no stakes for barrel, when we went down there had a big rodeo girl that was telling these people they needed to do reruns when they did not, i went home next day. Dont cheat me my mony spend other places. I just dont like unfairness of anykind if they do that what else what will they do. Good luck.
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | I play the PETA card on them. The largest rodeo there is, with the top competitors in the nation, with millions of dollars on the line; this is the best they can do? PETA already watches them like a hawk, one bad injury and they will have a hay day with it. Rodeo doesn't need any bad PR and with the caliber of athletes competing, I want to see them at their best, not looking like ducks on a frozen pond.
This goes for everyone, the rough stock isn't bucking, the barrel racers are tipping every where, the team ropers cant catch heels because theyre slidding so hard in their stops. This isn't some back yard rodeo, prep the ground so it can be what it's supposed to be. I can honestly say I'd be LIVID if I had paid that kind of money for a ticket and that was the performance I got. LIVID. |
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Location: Arkansas | I think I've bitched at them so much, they just delete me! LOL Oh well, the sqeeky wheel get greased 
Going to NFR and Las Vegas was always on my bucket list. I got to go last year; enjoyed it so much, I wanted to go again! But, I changed my mind. I don't want to go and see an animal put down because they got hurt doing their thing because someone else wasn't taking care of their business. It wouldn't be the great NFR Experience that they ballyhoo to get people to come.
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| Yes, the ground is bad but the PRCA can have the finals without the barrels/WPRA so be careful. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | Rock R Flying - 2014-12-06 5:50 PM
Yes, the ground is bad but the PRCA can have the finals without the barrels/WPRA so be careful.
I'm not talking about just the barrel racers, like I said the broncs aren't bucking, the bulls are about half way, the steer wrestlers are missing because they can't stand up and lay over their calves. I don't know what the headers problems are, but several heelers are missing because they can't get stopped or they're sliding and can't get the slack out of the rope.
Everyone knows PRCA doesn't want the barrel racers there, that's not news. |
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Location: So. California | This was posted by Jerri Mann on FB. The WPRA is being vocal! Let's just hope the ground crew gets the memo.<br /><br />Just want you to all know that we are absolutely concerned about the ground at the Thomas & Mack. I was at the arena early this morning and the judges, WNFR Production team and Mr Davis have assured us they are taking this seriously and will have it corrected for tonight's performance. The WPRA does not control this production but we have been very vocal on our contestants behalf. Praying it is good tonight.
Edited by Anniemae 2014-12-06 7:13 PM
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Location: South Central Florida | If a headding horse's back end went out from under him when he turned the calf, would they get hurt? If it happened to 10 out of the 15 headers, would it be different?
Yes, they can have the NFR with out the barrel racers...it's one event. BUT they kind of went that route a few years ago and sort of got their butts handed to them.
What I don't get about the position "it's just the womens event" is that probably half the male participants have wives, daughters, sisters, parents and girlfriends that compete and they are helping pay for these horses injuries. I don't think anyone is asking for perfection, but safety. The current conditions are embarrasing. I've heard a lot of people say the AMERICAN did not have this problem. . .
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Location: Arkansas | Agreed, the ground is shifty and not necessarily the best. But do y'all really think they haven't ran on worse?? Yes it's the nfr and the ground should be way better, but it could also be tons worse!!! And for the record, they are steers, not calves. Lol don't mean to sound rude, but that just got to me |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Kiss my ass.  "Rodeo ground" is not an excuse: this is the NFR. We don't expect awesome, we do expect and demand safe. I don't watch it to see horses get hurt. They have proven the ground is capable of being decent in the past, so there is no reason it can't be made safe now. |
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Location: The South | I saw someone post that Jerri Mann put on FB that they were at the arena early this morning discussing things so let's hope it's better tonight! I have to say from watching the grand entry it looks like it's been watered so YAY  |
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Location: Looking for someplace cooler | Maybe Vegas should have lost the NFR |
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Location: South Central Florida | The ground LOOKS darker and different...someone posted somewhere they added water and addressed the ground issues....Saw a team roper slip and almost go down...but the rest seem to be smokin...If they did wet it....the ropin horses like it. |
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Location: OK | Looks like something changed!! Times were better--looks like only Christine Laughlin had issues with hit barrels.
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| I looked at the results and the times were better. Comparing them to the last 3 years, I would say it needs more water, packed again, and reworked..... but I could be wrong. The biggest thing is to make it safe for all competitors and livestock of each event. |
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| They just dont care folks. This should be the best ground possible, it is a survior ground. You know if rodeo had good groubd there would be tons more people going. Been goning on lkke this a long time. Really time for change get some those old people out new people in. Doesnot matter vegas or maine. Ground should be good formeveryone. |
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| daisycake123 - 2014-12-06 11:07 PM They just dont care folks. This should be the best ground possible, it is a survior ground. You know if rodeo had good groubd there would be tons more people going. Been goning on lkke this a long time. Really time for change get some those old people out new people in. Doesnot matter vegas or maine. Ground should be good formeveryone. The ground has been pretty good the last 3 years. Lots of really fast times the past 3 years.. It appears they made huge improvements to it. I'm betting they will keep working on it through the week. I hope so. WPRA facebook page said they were working on it early this morning after a good evaluation and discussion.
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Location: Florida.. | daisycake123 - 2014-12-07 12:07 AM They just dont care folks. This should be the best ground possible, it is a survior ground. You know if rodeo had good groubd there would be tons more people going. Been goning on lkke this a long time. Really time for change get some those old people out new people in. Doesnot matter vegas or maine. Ground should be good formeveryone.
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| Bibliafarm - 2014-12-06 11:16 PM
daisycake123 - 2014-12-07 12:07 AM They just dont care folks. This should be the best ground possible, it is a survior ground. You know if rodeo had good groubd there would be tons more people going. Been goning on lkke this a long time. Really time for change get some those old people out new people in. Doesnot matter vegas or maine. Ground should be good formeveryone.
Thats simply not true.
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Location: Willows, CA | Great difference in the ground tonight. What a nice run by Kassidy. We have been so glad to be feeding that great horse. Her whole family is her support group. Great family. Congrats to her.
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Location: OK | winwillows - 2014-12-06 11:05 PM
Great difference in the ground tonight. What a nice run by Kassidy. We have been so glad to be feeding that great horse. Her whole family is her support group. Great family. Congrats to her.
I always like hearing that the athletes are good people outside of the arena! Love following her Facebook page! Think she's going to be around for a long time!! |
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Location: MD | The ground was definitely better. It's not the ground that they have had the last couple of years, but it was safe and held decently. The times probably could have been faster, but after a couple of nights on bad ground, you could see those good, seasoned horses coming in a bit cautious and I sure can't blame them! |
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Location: In a happy place | Bibliafarm - 2014-12-06 11:16 PM daisycake123 - 2014-12-07 12:07 AM They just dont care folks. This should be the best ground possible, it is a survior ground. You know if rodeo had good groubd there would be tons more people going. Been goning on lkke this a long time. Really time for change get some those old people out new people in. Doesnot matter vegas or maine. Ground should be good formeveryone. Thats simply not true.
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Location: Kansas (but Great Lakes member since 1978) | I can assure you that the WPRA was doing everything possible in regards to the ground conditions at the WNFR. Ground is the most important aspect of our sport and all of us take it very seriously. From day one it was being emphasized and I can assure you we are as upset about problems as anyone. I'm very happy that it was better last night but as a barrel racer I'm still not completely satisfied about it. Ground is a very tricky thing as in this situation it's even harder to get it just the way we would like it. Please know that none of us on the board just sit around and ignore this situation. The chain of command in important at times like this and it was definitely "heated up" by those of us that were able to make our feelings known. |
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Location: New Mexico | goldcard - 2014-12-07 1:34 PM
I can assure you that the WPRA was doing everything possible in regards to the ground conditions at the WNFR. Ground is the most important aspect of our sport and all of us take it very seriously. From day one it was being emphasized and I can assure you we are as upset about problems as anyone. I'm very happy that it was better last night but as a barrel racer I'm still not completely satisfied about it. Ground is a very tricky thing as in this situation it's even harder to get it just the way we would like it. Please know that none of us on the board just sit around and ignore this situation. The chain of command in important at times like this and it was definitely "heated up" by those of us that were able to make our feelings known.
I put my 25 cents in on their Facebook page.
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| Here are my thoughts. The NFR has already lost the big name bull riders to the PBR, they are going to lose the big name barrel racers to the American if they don't shape up. Just my opinion but I would sure think twice before running my horse there and he's a dink. |
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Location: Kansas | Three 4 Luck - 2014-12-06 9:05 PM Kiss my ass. "Rodeo ground" is not an excuse: this is the NFR. We don't expect awesome, we do expect and demand safe. I don't watch it to see horses get hurt. They have proven the ground is capable of being decent in the past, so there is no reason it can't be made safe now.
Agreed Three 4 Luck
Rodeo ground is normally not perfect...but...did anyone else notice the 10 million $ check they showed, for coming year prize money. There is absolutely NO EXCUSE why the ground isn't the best at the NFR. |
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