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Location: Where I am happiest | I have to say I have a whole new appreciation, and respect for Fallon Taylor. She is rockin those helmets! Diamonds and Dirt is donating $100 to k9s4kids for every contestant that wears a helmet during the NFR. Fallon has stepped to the plate and not only is she sporting a pretty cool helmet, she is matching the $100 each night and will do so for any other contestant who wears one. Now I see Troxel will donate 5 helmets to special needs kids charities for every contestant who wears a helmet. Isure wish the others would jump on board!
I have to say, I think I want one of those helmets Fallon is sporting. They look pretty cool. It would not be fair to my husband and family, and all my animals who depend on me if I suffered a catastrophic brain injury beause of some old stigma and vanity.
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Location: Mountains of VA | FINALLY, we have a female barrel racer willing to endorse riding helmets!! I had hoped this would have happened long ago from Charmayne James or Martha Josey.
This has been long overdue..............professionaly barrel racer wearing/endorsing helmets.
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Location: Where I am happiest | lindseylou2290 - 2014-12-11 7:04 PM She had an interesting interview tonight on Flint's show talking about breaking the stigma associated with safety gear in general ... compared her helmet to the helmets that the bull riders wear and the vests that the rough stock guys sport .... I do like her super positive attitude and givin' it back to the couch jockies
I agree and my husband said the same thing.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | hotpaints - 2014-12-11 7:14 PM
FINALLY, we have a female barrel racer willing to endorse riding helmets!! I had hoped this would have happened long ago from Charmayne James or Martha Josey.
This has been long overdue..............professionaly barrel racer wearing/endorsing helmets.
Dolores O'Toole wore a helmet years ago at the NFR. I'm not a helmet wearer but Fallon is so popular with the younger crowd that she's doing a great job promoting them. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | hotpaints - 2014-12-11 8:14 PM FINALLY, we have a female barrel racer willing to endorse riding helmets!! I had hoped this would have happened long ago from Charmayne James or Martha Josey.
This has been long overdue..............professionaly barrel racer wearing/endorsing helmets.
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Location: MI | rodeomom3 - 2014-12-11 7:30 PM
Although I don't wear a helment even though I should, you better believe my grandbaby will wear one every time he is on a horses back.
I never wore a helmet before I had kids. But now, working in rehab I've seen too many ugly results of simple accident and we are all 'in the helmet club'. It's super cool of Fallon, and super cool to add money to it. Heck, for a good cause it would seem like a no brainer! (Haha...no pun intended) |
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Location: Where I am happiest | I have learned through the years that catastrophic brain injuries are not limited to youth. Oregonrieners is a prime example of that, that hits close to home for alot of us here. Our familiers deserve to have us around and kids deserve to have their mothers. Our husbands deserve to have their wives. I was talking to Tonya Hebert last winter in Az. She wears a helmet. We started talking about the helmets and she said "I make my living with my brain. I cant afford to have a bad brain injury and really when you think about it, it's stupid not to". She is an attorney. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Ridenrun4745 - 2014-12-11 7:36 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-12-11 7:30 PM Although I don't wear a helment even though I should, you better believe my grandbaby will wear one every time he is on a horses back. I never wore a helmet before I had kids. But now, working in rehab I've seen too many ugly results of simple accident and we are all 'in the helmet club'. It's super cool of Fallon, and super cool to add money to it. Heck, for a good cause it would seem like a no brainer! (Haha...no pun intended )
Heck yeah! I also gaurantee you if the helmet companies started adding bonus moneys at the barrel races for those wearing helmets, ALOT more would be sporting them! |
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Location: Mountains of VA | rodeomom3 - 2014-12-11 7:30 PM Although I don't wear a helment even though I should, you better believe my grandbaby will wear one every time he is on a horses back.
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Location: where the wind blows | This week Fallon Taylor is the first pro racer to wear a helmet at the NFR promoting safety. I thought good for you Fallon. Then tues night I suffered my first concussion at 49 falling of my green horse when she spooked. Thankfully it is a mild one, a headache and nausea and forcing me to miss a few days work and lay low. I really shouldn't even be on here. Anyway you can bet your booty as soon as I'm up and around and able to ride again I will be buying a helmet.
I had actually commented on some negative FB posts about her helmets prior to my fall how I disagreed with them and admired her for stepping up and being a role model. Go Fallon and Baby Flo. I think she is great.
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Location: Where I am happiest | jkrm - 2014-12-11 7:55 PM This week Fallon Taylor is the first pro racer to wear a helmet at the NFR promoting safety. I thought good for you Fallon. Then tues night I suffered my first concussion at 49 falling of my green horse when she spooked. Thankfully it is a mild one, a headache and nausea and forcing me to miss a few days work and lay low. I really shouldn't even be on here. Anyway you can bet your booty as soon as I'm up and around and able to ride again I will be buying a helmet.
I had actually commented on some negative FB posts about her helmets prior to my fall how I disagreed with them and admired her for stepping up and being a role model. Go Fallon and Baby Flo. I think she is great.
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This week Fallon Taylor is the first pro racer to wear a helmet at the NFR promoting safety. I thought good for you Fallon. Then tues night I suffered my first concussion at 49 falling of my green horse when she spooked. Thankfully it is a mild one, a headache and nausea and forcing me to miss a few days work and lay low. I really shouldn't even be on here. Anyway you can bet your booty as soon as I'm up and around and able to ride again I will be buying a helmet.
I had actually commented on some negative FB posts about her helmets prior to my fall how I disagreed with them and admired her for stepping up and being a role model. Go Fallon and Baby Flo. I think she is great.
Ouch! Hope you get to feeling better!
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Location: Texas | It has almost been a month since my last concussion. My life has been turned upside down. I can no longer take the risks that I did before. I'm selling off my best horses so someone else can compete on them. Fortunately, I have had someone with me 24/7. I've been making progress but feel like I'm stuck in a loop. I have a good day or two and then bad day or two or three. I have had trouble sleeping, terrible headaches, vision problems, balance problems, memory problems, speech problems, and have felt like I am in a fog.
I applaud Fallon for daring to be different, putting vanity aside, and wearing a helmet. Love that color coordination too. What a great example and role model. Hopefully many others follow suit. I have, and am very happy with my new Tipperary at the recommendation of other BBs. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | When she said she would be taking over 25 hats I did t know so many would be helmets!!
I love that she has the panache to pull of her wild outfits and now the helmets. Whatever the motivation for her wearing them be it safety, or merchandizing or both...the positive image of helmet wear is undeniable.
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Location: NC | TrailGirl - 2014-12-11 10:04 PM
When she said she would be taking over 25 hats I did t know so many would be helmets!!
I love that she has the panache to pull of her wild outfits and now the helmets. Whatever the motivation for her wearing them be it safety, or merchandizing or both...the positive image of helmet wear is undeniable.
Hats off (and helmets on ) to you Fallon!
I'm with you.
Who cares if it's for money? If somewhere some young girl or guy is worrying about not being able to wear a pretty dolled up hat at the rodeo/show, and they look up on the TV and there's a barrel racer at the top of the game wearing a helmet, and think that maybe it's not so bad, then she's done a good thing.
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"Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think:
That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens?
You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you.
You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you.
You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body.
Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky.
But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD.
That's assuming you die.
If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it?
Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck.
Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants.
Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards.
Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose.
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Location: The South | I think it's awesome. I never thought about wearing a helmet until last year after my brain injury. I never would've thought that I would almost die while just loping circles out in the pasture. It was a moderate traumatic brain injury and I'm still recovering 14 months later. I don't know if it would've been prevented had I been wearing a helmet because the primary impact was my left eye area, but I'll be wearing a helmet from now on.
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Location: The South | psaaat - 2014-12-11 8:55 PM
It has almost been a month since my last concussion. My life has been turned upside down. I can no longer take the risks that I did before. I'm selling off my best horses so someone else can compete on them. Fortunately, I have had someone with me 24/7. I've been making progress but feel like I'm stuck in a loop. I have a good day or two and then bad day or two or three. I have had trouble sleeping, terrible headaches, vision problems, balance problems, memory problems, speech problems, and have felt like I am in a fog.
I applaud Fallon for daring to be different, putting vanity aside, and wearing a helmet. Love that color coordination too. What a great example and role model. Hopefully many others follow suit. I have, and am very happy with my new Tipperary at the recommendation of other BBs.
Did you have an MRI?!? All of your symptoms sound like what I went through, and I had waaay more than a concussion. They told my husband I had a concussion and sent me home, but I got worse and he took me back a week later and they did an MRI and said I had a 'moderate traumatic brain injury'. I spent a week at an inpatient rehab place and then followed up with outpatient speech therapy twice a week for 4 months. Please PM me if you have any questions, I'm worried about you. I remember posting on your helmet thread but I didn't realize you were having such a rough time. |
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Location: North Dakota | CoachRider - 2014-12-11 7:54 PM I like Fallon and want her to win it all, but i hate when people push safety BS and even worse when they do it for money and attention...........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................I agree w/this statement, it is all about marketing, the more fans for whatever reason, the more clothes and now helmets she will sell........ Shame on you both! Head safety is not BS! I don't care if she's making money off it or not, the attention she is getting for wearing a helmet AWESOME! Besides, is there now something wrong with making money? That shouldn't be a bad thing. It's not like she's selling drugs, she's selling safety equipment! The fact that ANYONE can say wearing a helmet is the wrong choice is stupid. If you don't want to wear one, whatever. I really hope nothing happens to you! But you have to think if the risk is really worth it. People in every english discipline as well as EVERY other extreme/dangerous sport wear helmets, why do western riders think they're above getting hurt?
Also, if you think helmets are hot, uncomfortable, block your vision, etc. YOU ARE WEARING A HELMET THAT DOES NOT FIT. Like any other piece of equipment, your helmet must fit you. I never once sat on a horse without a helmet until I was 18. You really do not notice the helmet. A cowboy hat is much more cumbersome!
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Location: Texas | I have never met Fallon Taylor and I don't believe she has ever run at Diamonds & Dirt Classic -- but regardless, I am forever sold as a fan.
I have said for the past five years that these barrel racers have a platform at the NFR like no other.... EVERY young barrel racer to mature can chaser all tune in anxiously to watch these 8 minutes each night for ten exciting days. The outfits...the dirt...their choice of horse (or backup horse) its all scrutinized. I love the way Fallon thinks outside the box and OWNS IT!!! Yes, its a great marketing avenue but aside from that I truly feel she unconditionally believes it in her heart that smart people protect themselves when having extreme fun.
My 8 year old little girl rides in a helmet and its a conditioned response for her. She started in the English world - so she didnt give it a second glance when I told her she had to wear one running barrels. We find fun covers and spray paint it with glitter...safety can be fun!
The moment I saw her fly down the alley on the 3rd go round with a helmet on I called our marketing geniuses and said "Fallon Taylor is making a concentrated effort to break the barrier -- lets help push the movement and show the next generation its cool to be safe"
I spoke with LaTricia and our DDBHC team and we announced Diamonds & Dirt was donating $100 to K9s4KIDS.org for every night anny barrel racer wore a helmet. Fallon immediately stepped up and was generous enough to match our pledge of $100 and has encouraged her fan and followers to do the same. Since the NFR has begun we are over $3000 and building rapidly from outside matches. When Fallon wins the world we will place a $15,000 K9 in a school thanks to her efforts to bring awareness - like the helmet when you ride, these K9s are trained to keep our kids safe in an environment where they can have fun and learn! The next K9 in a school we place will be special because we are naming it in honor of Fallon Taylor. This woman took a platform and was able to influence a generation. Along the way she is instilling confidence and keeping the next generation safe!
Forever a Fallon Fan,
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| TxBronc - 2014-12-12 3:02 AM I think the helmets are ugly. Just my opinion.
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Location: Texas | LindsayJordan84 - 2014-12-11 11:19 PM
psaaat - 2014-12-11 8:55 PM
It has almost been a month since my last concussion. My life has been turned upside down. I can no longer take the risks that I did before. I'm selling off my best horses so someone else can compete on them. Fortunately, I have had someone with me 24/7. I've been making progress but feel like I'm stuck in a loop. I have a good day or two and then bad day or two or three. I have had trouble sleeping, terrible headaches, vision problems, balance problems, memory problems, speech problems, and have felt like I am in a fog.
I applaud Fallon for daring to be different, putting vanity aside, and wearing a helmet. Love that color coordination too. What a great example and role model. Hopefully many others follow suit. I have, and am very happy with my new Tipperary at the recommendation of other BBs.
Did you have an MRI?!? All of your symptoms sound like what I went through, and I had waaay more than a concussion. They told my husband I had a concussion and sent me home, but I got worse and he took me back a week later and they did an MRI and said I had a 'moderate traumatic brain injury'. I spent a week at an inpatient rehab place and then followed up with outpatient speech therapy twice a week for 4 months. Please PM me if you have any questions, I'm worried about you. I remember posting on your helmet thread but I didn't realize you were having such a rough time.
Wow, sounds like you really had a rough time of it too. I will have to PM you. I had a CT at the ER. Saw a neurologist who sent me for another CT with contrast. I go for an MRI with/without contrast next week. Supposed to have an appointment with a neuropsychologist for testing.
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Location: Texas | LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 10:53 PM
Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it.
"Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think:
That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens?
You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you.
You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you.
You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body.
Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky.
But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD.
That's assuming you die.
If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it?
Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck.
Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants.
Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards.
Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose.
But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way."
Amen to this! If you don't want to wear one for you, consider wearing one for your loved ones. An injury like this takes a toll on everyone who cares about you. Not to mention the immense medical expenses. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | kkschiller - 2014-12-12 12:35 AM I have never met Fallon Taylor and I don't believe she has ever run at Diamonds & Dirt Classic -- but regardless, I am forever sold as a fan. I have said for the past five years that these barrel racers have a platform at the NFR like no other.... EVERY young barrel racer to mature can chaser all tune in anxiously to watch these 8 minutes each night for ten exciting days. The outfits...the dirt...their choice of horse (or backup horse) its all scrutinized. I love the way Fallon thinks outside the box and OWNS IT!!! Yes, its a great marketing avenue but aside from that I truly feel she unconditionally believes it in her heart that smart people protect themselves when having extreme fun. My 8 year old little girl rides in a helmet and its a conditioned response for her. She started in the English world - so she didnt give it a second glance when I told her she had to wear one running barrels. We find fun covers and spray paint it with glitter...safety can be fun! The moment I saw her fly down the alley on the 3rd go round with a helmet on I called my office and said "Fallon Taylor just broke the barrier -- lets help push the movement" We announced Diamonds & Dirt was donating $100 to K9s4KIDS.org for every night she wore a helmet. Fallon was generous enough to match our pledge of $100 and encourage her followers to do the same -- since the NFR has began we are a little over $3000 and building from outside matches. When Fallon wins the world we will place a $15,000 K9 in a school - like the helmet when you ride, these K9s are trained to keep our kids safe in an environment where they can have fun and learn! The K9 will be special because we are naming it in honor of Fallon Taylor. Forever a Fallon Fan, Kristi #HelmetTough #RunBabyFloRun #NoFear #NoExcuses #SafetyFirst #K9s4COPS #K9s4KIDS #BabyFloShow
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I think the helmets are ugly. Just my opinion.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | kkschiller - 2014-12-12 12:35 AM I have never met Fallon Taylor and I don't believe she has ever run at Diamonds & Dirt Classic -- but regardless, I am forever sold as a fan. I have said for the past five years that these barrel racers have a platform at the NFR like no other.... EVERY young barrel racer to mature can chaser all tune in anxiously to watch these 8 minutes each night for ten exciting days. The outfits...the dirt...their choice of horse (or backup horse) its all scrutinized. I love the way Fallon thinks outside the box and OWNS IT!!! Yes, its a great marketing avenue but aside from that I truly feel she unconditionally believes it in her heart that smart people protect themselves when having extreme fun. My 8 year old little girl rides in a helmet and its a conditioned response for her. She started in the English world - so she didnt give it a second glance when I told her she had to wear one running barrels. We find fun covers and spray paint it with glitter...safety can be fun! The moment I saw her fly down the alley on the 3rd go round with a helmet on I called my office and said "Fallon Taylor just broke the barrier -- lets help push the movement" We announced Diamonds & Dirt was donating $100 to K9s4KIDS.org for every night she wore a helmet. Fallon was generous enough to match our pledge of $100 and encourage her followers to do the same -- since the NFR has began we are a little over $3000 and building from outside matches. When Fallon wins the world we will place a $15,000 K9 in a school - like the helmet when you ride, these K9s are trained to keep our kids safe in an environment where they can have fun and learn! The K9 will be special because we are naming it in honor of Fallon Taylor. Forever a Fallon Fan, Kristi #HelmetTough #RunBabyFloRun #NoFear #NoExcuses #SafetyFirst #K9s4COPS #K9s4KIDS #BabyFloShow
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Location: Oklahoma | kkschiller - 2014-12-12 12:35 AM I have never met Fallon Taylor and I don't believe she has ever run at Diamonds & Dirt Classic -- but regardless, I am forever sold as a fan. I have said for the past five years that these barrel racers have a platform at the NFR like no other.... EVERY young barrel racer to mature can chaser all tune in anxiously to watch these 8 minutes each night for ten exciting days. The outfits...the dirt...their choice of horse (or backup horse) its all scrutinized. I love the way Fallon thinks outside the box and OWNS IT!!! Yes, its a great marketing avenue but aside from that I truly feel she unconditionally believes it in her heart that smart people protect themselves when having extreme fun. My 8 year old little girl rides in a helmet and its a conditioned response for her. She started in the English world - so she didnt give it a second glance when I told her she had to wear one running barrels. We find fun covers and spray paint it with glitter...safety can be fun! The moment I saw her fly down the alley on the 3rd go round with a helmet on I called my office and said "Fallon Taylor just broke the barrier -- lets help push the movement" We announced Diamonds & Dirt was donating $100 to K9s4KIDS.org for every night she wore a helmet. Fallon was generous enough to match our pledge of $100 and encourage her followers to do the same -- since the NFR has began we are a little over $3000 and building from outside matches. When Fallon wins the world we will place a $15,000 K9 in a school - like the helmet when you ride, these K9s are trained to keep our kids safe in an environment where they can have fun and learn! The K9 will be special because we are naming it in honor of Fallon Taylor. Forever a Fallon Fan, Kristi #HelmetTough #RunBabyFloRun #NoFear #NoExcuses #SafetyFirst #K9s4COPS #K9s4KIDS #BabyFloShow
My 7 year old daughter also wears a helmet and doesn't think twice about it. I grew up riding hunters and jumpers and you didn't get on a horse without a helmet. I'm grateful to Fallon Taylor for stepping outside the box and owning it. She is setting an example and wheter or not people choose to follow it.... |
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Location: The edge of no where | DunIt - 2014-12-12 9:44 AM Or you can go by her booth and see them......she conveniently has them for sale
GOOD for her!!!! I don't wear a helmet, probably should....but I LOVE that she's working to make it acceptable. I cringe watching so many little girls ride and I've watched so many come off. If this makes it easier for them to wear a helmet and not worry about getting made fun of, then more power to her! If I had a child, they would be wearing a helmet every time they got on a horse. |
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| Just Bring It - 2014-12-12 8:53 AM
TxBronc - 2014-12-12 3:02 AM I think the helmets are ugly. Just my opinion.
Know what else is ugly? A smashed in skull.
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| DunIt - 2014-12-12 9:44 AM
Or you can go by her booth and see them......she conveniently has them for sale
HOW COOL for those little girls going to the NFR that wear helmets... To get one there from Fallon Taylor. Kudos to her. She is trying to build a brand. |
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Location: Texas | MNcanchaser7 - 2014-12-12 8:10 AM
Just Bring It - 2014-12-12 8:53 AM
TxBronc - 2014-12-12 3:02 AM I think the helmets are ugly. Just my opinion.
Know what else is ugly? A smashed in skull.
I would rather be alive and able to enjoy spending time with my husband and daughter at the end of the day than to be fashionable and vain. |
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| I am not downplaying helmet use. I am curious as to whether helmets prevent concussion? I have had a concussion explained to me as the brain bouncing against the inside of your skull when you take a whack on the head, or, say when your head whacks the ground.
Football players still suffer concussions from hits and it's not just when their helmet comes off.
Does anyone know?
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Location: North Dakota | A helmet does not prevent all concussions but they definitely can lessen the severity of the injury. I would gladly take a mild concusion over a cracked skull any day. I have had a concussion and blacked out and I think it would not have been so traumatic had I been wearing a helmet. |
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Location: North Dakota | bennie1 - 2014-12-12 10:32 AM I am not downplaying helmet use. I am curious as to whether helmets prevent concussion? I have had a concussion explained to me as the brain bouncing against the inside of your skull when you take a whack on the head, or, say when your head whacks the ground. Football players still suffer concussions from hits and it's not just when their helmet comes off. Does anyone know?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2014/06/20/helmets-safety-... |
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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | bennie1 - 2014-12-12 10:32 AM I am not downplaying helmet use. I am curious as to whether helmets prevent concussion? I have had a concussion explained to me as the brain bouncing against the inside of your skull when you take a whack on the head, or, say when your head whacks the ground. Football players still suffer concussions from hits and it's not just when their helmet comes off. Does anyone know?
They do make helmets for football players that have had concussions a little different from what I understand. My nephew suffered a concussion and this year his coach had a special helmet ordered for him. I'm not sure what is all different with it but I know it's specfically made for concussions. |
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Location: East of the Pecos | LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 11:53 PM Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it. "Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think: That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens? You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you. You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you. You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body. Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky. But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD. That's assuming you die. If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it? Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck. Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants. Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards. Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose. But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way."
Given this rant directed at "selfish" non helmet wearers, does it change your opinion of anyone in the spotlight who doesn't wear a helmet? Do you see them as selfish? I'm talking about the big guns who set examples like world champions Sheri Cervi, Charmayne James, Martha Josey, or any of the top 15 at the NFR this week. I want someone to give me just ONE reason Martha Josey (or any top clinician) doesn't wear a helmet to set an example to the thousands of kids she instructs. |
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Location: Blissfully happy Giants fan!!! | I can't tell you how awesome I thought it was that Fallon wore a helmet...and not just on one night but she saw the opportunity to start a movement and she is running with it. Shoot I HOPE she makes money off of this. The awareness and the attention she has brought to our sport in just a few short days is more than years and years and years of a small group of people talking about it.
I wear a helmet and have my whole life. My parents (thank GOD) were on the forefront of it. In the association I used to ride in, my sister and I were one of the first to ride in one. And then it became mandatory for kids under 18 to wear one (and still is).
I can tell you a helmet saved my life. I was 18 and I was riding a horse that was new to me (my sister's). That day I had literally changed from my old helmet (which I had worn in for probably 6 years by then but never had an accident in) to a brand new one. I didn't have a lot of room to shut the horse down and I wanted him to go right-he wanted to go left. RIght at the last second, we both changed our minds and I went head first into 6 inch steel-not hallow. It knocked me out and when I came to I didn't have feeling on my left side of my body for about 5 minutes. I had a nasty concussion and jacked my shoulder but for the most part I walked away from the accident. The doctors and paramedics saw my helmet and told me and my friends they were 100% sure without that helmet at best I would have been a vegetable and worse case dead.
I have never not worn a helmet when I run. IMO it is part of my gear. My horses get their boots on and I get my helmet on. And I would rather forfeit an entry fee than not ride with it on. I hate the visors so I don't have a helmet with that little visor sticking out. Mine is lightweight too which I really like. Fits my head real snug.
I will fully admit that running barrels is the only time I wear it. Yes, I know I run a risk every time I get on a horse. But I think the increased risk is about as much as me driving here in Tyler. But going mach 10 around a barrel to trust a 1,200 pound horse to turn it safely? Yeah, that is infinitely more riskier.
I am proud of Fallon and I am proud of Diamonds and Dirt for helping the movement continue. Massive change won't happen overnight but maybe we get some more kids to wear one now because of Fallon. That is a pretty dang good start IMO. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:03 AM LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 11:53 PM Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it. "Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think: That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens? You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you. You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you. You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body. Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky. But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD. That's assuming you die. If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it? Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck. Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants. Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards. Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose. But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way." Given this rant directed at "selfish" non helmet wearers, does it change your opinion of anyone in the spotlight who doesn't wear a helmet? Do you see them as selfish? I'm talking about the big guns who set examples like world champions Sheri Cervi, Charmayne James, Martha Josey, or any of the top 15 at the NFR this week. I want someone to give me just ONE reason Martha Josey (or any top clinician) doesn't wear a helmet to set an example to the thousands of kids she instructs.
This is where I give Fallon HUGE props for stepping out, and stepping UP to the plate to break that mold. Now, with 2 very good charities with awsome causes putting it out there for the NFR barrel racers this year to wear one , and Fallon putting it out there she will match the donations, YEP, I sure do look at it as selfish. I have a whole new respect for Fallon now. She is confidant within herself to step out there! I cant believe, even for just one night they cant/wont put stuck in the old vanity mold aside. The message it sends is HUGE. We just have to get more used to seeing them, and seeing them in the limelight. More people are getting smarter every day though.
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Location: East of the Pecos | ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 11:29 AM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:03 AM LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 11:53 PM Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it. "Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think: That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens? You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you. You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you. You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body. Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky. But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD. That's assuming you die. If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it? Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck. Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants. Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards. Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose. But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way." Given this rant directed at "selfish" non helmet wearers, does it change your opinion of anyone in the spotlight who doesn't wear a helmet? Do you see them as selfish? I'm talking about the big guns who set examples like world champions Sheri Cervi, Charmayne James, Martha Josey, or any of the top 15 at the NFR this week. I want someone to give me just ONE reason Martha Josey (or any top clinician) doesn't wear a helmet to set an example to the thousands of kids she instructs.
This is where I give Fallon HUGE props for stepping out, and stepping UP to the plate to break that mold. Now, with 2 very good charities with awsome causes putting it out there for the NFR barrel racers this year to wear one , and Fallon putting it out there she will match the donations, YEP, I sure do look at it as selfish. I have a whole new respect for Fallon now. She is confidant within herself to step out there! I cant believe, even for just one night they cant/wont put stuck in the old vanity mold aside. The message it sends is HUGE. We just have to get more used to seeing them, and seeing them in the limelight. More people are getting smarter every day though.
So Sheri Cervi and Martha Josey are selfish and lack confidence in themselves? I'm not trying to be combative, I'm trying to make a point. |
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Location: California | I know people personally who have to take anti-seizure medications for the rest of their lives due to concussions suffered years and years ago from horse related accidents. It doesn't take much to get a concussion. Do not slam someone for using a helmet or endorsing it. Who cares why they are doing it?! The point is that it may influence others to take steps to help prevent an injury that may change their life. So go find some other post to b*tch about because slamming people for using a helmet or endorsing it just makes you look like an ass. |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | My daughter started running Jr.HSR this year and only about 3 or 4 kids between both Jr. high and high school wear helmets; with one being her good friend. Both have already commented on feeling funny about not wearing their cowboy hats. However, they know if they don't have it on, they don't ride. As a mother I am so HAPPY to see a pro rider step up and set an example.
I remember when helmets were just starting to be worn by bullriders. I remember all the negative comments being made. However, now it is the common practice, if not the standard. Hope this trend continues. I believe it is the right of each person to decided but I sincerely hope it becomes more accepted.
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Location: North Pole | hotpaints - 2014-12-11 7:48 PM
rodeomom3 - 2014-12-11 7:30 PM Although I don't wear a helment even though I should, you better believe my grandbaby will wear one every time he is on a horses back.
You are going to have to set a good example
This is me. Before having babies I didn't have a care in the world. Now? I'm looking for a helmet that fits me that isn't a jumping helmet. Lol and YES my boys will wear one when they ride. I don't care if they're the only ones doing it. Until they are 18, their little noggins will be protected! |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I dont' think anyone is saying the girls that haven't worn a helmet are selfish nor lack confidence just thanking Fallon for bringing some attention to it and making it "cool" enough that kids who are at the impressionable stage are a little more willing to wear their helmets especially those in associations that require them. No one looks twice at a bull rider that wears one nor tells them their helmet is ugly and doesn't look right in the arena. I remember a few years back with Orereiners (I think that was her BBW board name, Cindy was hurt in the horse accident there were a ton of people on here that pledge to start wearing a helmet. Wonder how many continue to wear it today. I know I don't wear one, I hate even the feel of my hat and merely wear it when it is required by dress code so I'm as guilty as the next person. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:37 AM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 11:29 AM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:03 AM LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 11:53 PM Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it. "Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think: That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens? You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you. You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you. You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body. Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky. But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD. That's assuming you die. If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it? Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck. Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants. Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards. Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose. But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way." Given this rant directed at "selfish" non helmet wearers, does it change your opinion of anyone in the spotlight who doesn't wear a helmet? Do you see them as selfish? I'm talking about the big guns who set examples like world champions Sheri Cervi, Charmayne James, Martha Josey, or any of the top 15 at the NFR this week. I want someone to give me just ONE reason Martha Josey (or any top clinician) doesn't wear a helmet to set an example to the thousands of kids she instructs.
This is where I give Fallon HUGE props for stepping out, and stepping UP to the plate to break that mold. Now, with 2 very good charities with awsome causes putting it out there for the NFR barrel racers this year to wear one , and Fallon putting it out there she will match the donations, YEP, I sure do look at it as selfish. I have a whole new respect for Fallon now. She is confidant within herself to step out there! I cant believe, even for just one night they cant/wont put stuck in the old vanity mold aside. The message it sends is HUGE. We just have to get more used to seeing them, and seeing them in the limelight. More people are getting smarter every day though.
Selfish or not is really a redundant statement regarding the “old school” cowgirls. They grew up in a different atmosphere……..FT is promoting a safety trend for the young barrel racers by showing them that it can be “cool” to wear the protection. It started the same way in the rough stock riders with just a few bull riders wearing helmets….now it is estimated that 70% of them wear head and vest protection.
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| I am a certified helmet fan... I won't get on my horse without one. I have been made fun of for wearing one and not by any barrel racer but by a "wanna be" cowboy/horse trainer/ couch riding SOB. I was told that I was not a true barrel racer because I was wearing one (Also, I started this barrel racing business back in April and I am still going at a glorified lope around the barrels but we are getting faster so I am trying my hardest)... anyways, it did bothered me as even though I knew better than to take his comments at heart, I wanted and still want to be a barrel racer so bad that I second guessed myself. I have been going to races and I have always been wearing my helmet but I could not help to feel a bit... different. After watching Fallon Taylor wearing a helmet, call me silly, but it has made me feel a bit more confident wearing one and not feeling goofy about it. I don't care if she does it for attention or for money or for whatever reason... all I can say is that she has put my "helmet" at ease by showing that you can still be a good barrel racer even if you wear a helmet. Now if she made an an adult felt better about her safety choices, can you just imagine what kind of impression she made to the young kids? All I can say is.... THANK YOU FALLON!!!! |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Know who else should be wearing helmets? Children on 4 wheelers, dirt bikes and golf carts. I see too many head injuries that could have been prevented. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:37 AM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 11:29 AM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:03 AM LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 11:53 PM Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it. "Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think: That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens? You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you. You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you. You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body. Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky. But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD. That's assuming you die. If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it? Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck. Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants. Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards. Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose. But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way." Given this rant directed at "selfish" non helmet wearers, does it change your opinion of anyone in the spotlight who doesn't wear a helmet? Do you see them as selfish? I'm talking about the big guns who set examples like world champions Sheri Cervi, Charmayne James, Martha Josey, or any of the top 15 at the NFR this week. I want someone to give me just ONE reason Martha Josey (or any top clinician) doesn't wear a helmet to set an example to the thousands of kids she instructs.
This is where I give Fallon HUGE props for stepping out, and stepping UP to the plate to break that mold. Now, with 2 very good charities with awsome causes putting it out there for the NFR barrel racers this year to wear one , and Fallon putting it out there she will match the donations, YEP, I sure do look at it as selfish. I have a whole new respect for Fallon now. She is confidant within herself to step out there! I cant believe, even for just one night they cant/wont put stuck in the old vanity mold aside. The message it sends is HUGE. We just have to get more used to seeing them, and seeing them in the limelight. More people are getting smarter every day though.
Yes you are trying to be combative but thats ok. lol. YES. If they wont do it for themselves, yet they still wont do it for charity and to help send a message to if nobody else, our youth! These ladies, are who everybody looks up to and strives to be where they are. When my daughter was young, I made her wear a helmet. She couldnt wait to be able to not have to wear it. She would say "Nobody else is wearing one". THAT was her reason to not want to wear it. When you ask anybody, I dont care how old they are, they have no other reason to not wear one because "They dont like the looks of them" Or, " I dont want to look like a dork because nobody else is wearing one". All reasons of vanity and lacking self confidance! Plain and simple. Obviously, as Fallon is proving round after round, wearing a helmet does not effect your ability to ride in a negative way. lol. Doesnt effect your ability to WIN, or place in a negative way. If anything, more people ( adults) are more confidant in their riding, more aggressive. I have seen it and those that wear one have mentioned it.
After the first 2 rounds of crappy ground, Fallon put hers on. Smart move and THAT was a missed golden opportunity for all NFR contestants to make a statement to the NFR committee as well. "HEY, fix this crap ground! This is scary stuff and we cant really put it all out there! It's unsafe".
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Location: East of the Pecos | NJJ - 2014-12-12 11:51 AM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:37 AM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 11:29 AM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:03 AM LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 11:53 PM Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it. "Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think: That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens? You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you. You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you. You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body. Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky. But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD. That's assuming you die. If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it? Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck. Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants. Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards. Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose. But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way." Given this rant directed at "selfish" non helmet wearers, does it change your opinion of anyone in the spotlight who doesn't wear a helmet? Do you see them as selfish? I'm talking about the big guns who set examples like world champions Sheri Cervi, Charmayne James, Martha Josey, or any of the top 15 at the NFR this week. I want someone to give me just ONE reason Martha Josey (or any top clinician) doesn't wear a helmet to set an example to the thousands of kids she instructs.
This is where I give Fallon HUGE props for stepping out, and stepping UP to the plate to break that mold. Now, with 2 very good charities with awsome causes putting it out there for the NFR barrel racers this year to wear one , and Fallon putting it out there she will match the donations, YEP, I sure do look at it as selfish. I have a whole new respect for Fallon now. She is confidant within herself to step out there! I cant believe, even for just one night they cant/wont put stuck in the old vanity mold aside. The message it sends is HUGE. We just have to get more used to seeing them, and seeing them in the limelight. More people are getting smarter every day though.
The statement by ThreeCorners says that Fallon wore the helmet because she is confident enough in herself to step out there.
My point is that when I go to a barrel race, I don't look at the non helmet wearers as selfish or not confident. You can't just make a blanket statement that riders who don't wear helmets are selfish because there are thousands of clinicians, trainers, world champions (men and women) who don't set the example of wearing helmets but are seen as leaders and teachers for kids. I think Martha Josey and Sheri Cervi, and even the younger NFR girls, and junior rodeo kids (not just "old school" ladies) want to wear a hat for the pure and simple reason that it's tradition and looks western. I don't look at the parents of junior rodeo future star barrel racers as not caring about their welfare or being selfish when they or their kids don't wear helmets. Regardless of what the ranting poster statement refers to as "selfish", it's not, and it's a personal choice. Off my soapbox. 
I wanted to add that choosing to wear a hat doesn't mean you look down on helmets. I also applaud Fallon for wearing a helmet, I think all of her outfits look cool and she is one reason I'm enjoying the barrel race at the NFR so much this year, and I hope she wins the world. Putting herself out there and promoting something she believes in is wonderful, but it's still a choice.
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Location: North Dakota | I find it funny that this is even a debate at all for western riders. No English rider (including myself) would give the slightest thought to wearing a helmet. That's just what you do! It's not "too ugly" for them! |
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Location: No Man's Land | Fallon is not the first barrel racer to wear a helmet at the NFR. Delores Tool wore helmets the last time she made it to the NFR several years ago. |
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Location: East of the Pecos | cavyrunsbarrels - 2014-12-12 12:20 PM I find it funny that this is even a debate at all for western riders. No English rider (including myself) would give the slightest thought to wearing a helmet. That's just what you do! It's not "too ugly" for them!
Because it goes back to tradition. English riders traditionaly wear helmets and western riders traditionaly wear cowboy hats, which is my whole entire point. It's very hard to break tradition, and that's a reason in itself, not being selfish or unconfident. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | cavyrunsbarrels - 2014-12-12 12:20 PM I find it funny that this is even a debate at all for western riders. No English rider (including myself) would give the slightest thought to wearing a helmet. That's just what you do! It's not "too ugly" for them! IMO, you will see it more and more as the younger riders grow up because so many "youth" organizations are making it mandatory for them to be worn....just like protective gear for the rough stock end of rodeos.
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| ThreeCorners - 2014-12-11 5:40 PM I have learned through the years that catastrophic brain injuries are not limited to youth. Oregonrieners is a prime example of that, that hits close to home for alot of us here. Our familiers deserve to have us around and kids deserve to have their mothers. Our husbands deserve to have their wives. I was talking to Tonya Hebert last winter in Az. She wears a helmet. We started talking about the helmets and she said "I make my living with my brain. I cant afford to have a bad brain injury and really when you think about it, it's stupid not to". She is an attorney.
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Location: Oregon | hotpaints - 2014-12-11 5:14 PM FINALLY, we have a female barrel racer willing to endorse riding helmets!! I had hoped this would have happened long ago from Charmayne James or Martha Josey.
This has been long overdue..............professionaly barrel racer wearing/endorsing helmets.
Agree!!! I have so much respect and admire anyone who can be that confident to just go ahead and use a helmet! Very smart too!
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Location: MD | LOLOLOLOL. Since when does someone making a good decision AND helping others by donating to charity(That she totally didn't have to do but is doing it anyway) something to whine about? At least she can put her ego aside and slap a helmet on her head and you all still find a reason to complain. A big ole round of applause to Fallon, she's setting a great example, I hope one day I can be as influential as she is.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Hey I'm about as old school as they come. I'm in my mid 50's and was barrel racing way before the advent of 3D's. Nobody wore helmets then and nobody really required our youth to. Heck, we didnt even have seat belt laws and you could still ride in the back of a pick up! Safety awareness just wasnt what it is today. When my daughter was young and I made her wear a helmet it was epic failure on my part not to be wearing one as well. Actions and example speak louder then words. I was still young then so yep, vanity and my own self confidance were at play. Plus back then the helmet design wasnt near what it is today. Now the helmets have come a long way and I do really like the looks of the helmets Fallon is rock'n.
I am just starting to ride again. Havent really ridden in years except at home on rare occasions. My husband is ever so supportive and thinks it would be good therapy for me after my accident. I now have a good horse here to ride, he bought me a new caldwell for our anniversary, and a heritage brand tack set and he wants us to go play. Mom and Pop style. lol. We have been talking about me wearing a helmet and yep, that is next on my list before I get back on my horse and I do like the looks of the helmets Fallon is wearing. I just have to decide on what color. LOL
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | NJJ - 2014-12-12 12:25 PM
cavyrunsbarrels - 2014-12-12 12:20 PM I find it funny that this is even a debate at all for western riders. No English rider (including myself) would give the slightest thought to wearing a helmet. That's just what you do! It's not "too ugly" for them! IMO, you will see it more and more as the younger riders grow up because so many "youth" organizations are making it mandatory for them to be worn....just like protective gear for the rough stock end of rodeos.
Totally aggree with this. I never wore a helmet growing up, as a matter-of-fact my mom fought against making helmets a requrement for 4-H. I was so proud of her then. That was the 80's. Fast forward to today and my kids understand it is just expected of them. From the first day they have sat on a horse/pony they have worn a helmet. This is true for many young riders today. |
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Location: North Dakota | I hope Fallon wins the world title! She is one beautiful girl, makes barrel racing look good!!! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | brlraceaddict - 2014-12-12 12:29 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-11 5:40 PM I have learned through the years that catastrophic brain injuries are not limited to youth. Oregonrieners is a prime example of that, that hits close to home for alot of us here. Our familiers deserve to have us around and kids deserve to have their mothers. Our husbands deserve to have their wives. I was talking to Tonya Hebert last winter in Az. She wears a helmet. We started talking about the helmets and she said "I make my living with my brain. I cant afford to have a bad brain injury and really when you think about it, it's stupid not to". She is an attorney. Is this Tonya Hebert from Washington?
Yes! I just love her. She started wearing her helmet after a bad horse accident.
Funny, for most of us,myself included, it takes a bad accident to wake us up. We suddenly become smarter when we are shown just how volnerable we really are and realize we are not invincable. We have just been lucky. |
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Location: MD | ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 1:35 PM
Hey I'm about as old school as they come. I'm in my mid 50's and was barrel racing way before the advent of 3D's. Nobody wore helmets then and nobody really required our youth to. Heck, we didnt even have seat belt laws and you could still ride in the back of a pick up! Safety awareness just wasnt what it is today. When my daughter was young and I made her wear a helmet it was epic failure on my part not to be wearing one as well. Actions and example speak louder then words. I was still young then so yep, vanity and my own self confidance were at play. Plus back then the helmet design wasnt near what it is today. Now the helmets have come a long way and I do really like the looks of the helmets Fallon is rock'n.
I am just starting to ride again. Havent really ridden in years except at home on rare occasions. My husband is ever so supportive and thinks it would be good therapy for me after my accident. I now have a good horse here to ride, he bought me a new caldwell for our anniversary, and a heritage brand tack set and he wants us to go play. Mom and Pop style. lol. We have been talking about me wearing a helmet and yep, that is next on my list before I get back on my horse and I do like the looks of the helmets Fallon is wearing. I just have to decide on what color. LOL
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Location: Where I am happiest | Katie's - 2014-12-12 12:29 PM hotpaints - 2014-12-11 5:14 PM FINALLY, we have a female barrel racer willing to endorse riding helmets!! I had hoped this would have happened long ago from Charmayne James or Martha Josey.
This has been long overdue..............professionaly barrel racer wearing/endorsing helmets.
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| i don/t read anything about being self i truly don/t see the big deal.
i rode race horses for a living you wore a helment pure and simiple. no big deal my helmentwas as much of me as i my boots.
a helment would not have prevented me breaking my neck. you still can get a concussion or worse but its a matter of chice kinda like when bull riders started where vest
bareback riders wearing collar roll,
its a smart choice and you never got to work about a hat fine lol
i knew fallon had broke c1c2 she is beyond blessed to have no no residue from that horriffic wreck
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Location: Where I am happiest | Crowned Image - 2014-12-12 12:43 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 1:35 PM Hey I'm about as old school as they come. I'm in my mid 50's and was barrel racing way before the advent of 3D's. Nobody wore helmets then and nobody really required our youth to. Heck, we didnt even have seat belt laws and you could still ride in the back of a pick up! Safety awareness just wasnt what it is today. When my daughter was young and I made her wear a helmet it was epic failure on my part not to be wearing one as well. Actions and example speak louder then words. I was still young then so yep, vanity and my own self confidance were at play. Plus back then the helmet design wasnt near what it is today. Now the helmets have come a long way and I do really like the looks of the helmets Fallon is rock'n.
I am just starting to ride again. Havent really ridden in years except at home on rare occasions. My husband is ever so supportive and thinks it would be good therapy for me after my accident. I now have a good horse here to ride, he bought me a new caldwell for our anniversary, and a heritage brand tack set and he wants us to go play. Mom and Pop style. lol. We have been talking about me wearing a helmet and yep, that is next on my list before I get back on my horse and I do like the looks of the helmets Fallon is wearing. I just have to decide on what color. LOL
Go bright and bold girl! I have also in the past not worn helmets for vanity, better late than never! WTG!
LOl TYE DYE!! Not so sure I could go that far. But hey, it would go with everything! LOL
Suprised with all the tye dye Fallon wears she doesnt have a tye dye helmet.
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Location: NM...the Land of Manana | Fallon should autograph and auction those helmets, would anyone here bid? |
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| ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 10:42 AM brlraceaddict - 2014-12-12 12:29 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-11 5:40 PM I have learned through the years that catastrophic brain injuries are not limited to youth. Oregonrieners is a prime example of that, that hits close to home for alot of us here. Our familiers deserve to have us around and kids deserve to have their mothers. Our husbands deserve to have their wives. I was talking to Tonya Hebert last winter in Az. She wears a helmet. We started talking about the helmets and she said "I make my living with my brain. I cant afford to have a bad brain injury and really when you think about it, it's stupid not to". She is an attorney. Is this Tonya Hebert from Washington?
Funny, for most of us,myself included, it takes a bad accident to wake us up. We suddenly become smarter when we are shown just how volnerable we really are and realize we are not invincable. We have just been lucky.
SMALL, SMALL world. I rode at omoksees with her when I was in high school and during summers my first couple years in college. She was always nice as could be. So glad to hear she is doing great and is an attorney. I remember her Dad too, he loved watching her ride at the omoksees, Roland was his name. |
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| LRQHS - 2014-12-12 12:55 PM Know who else should be wearing helmets? Children on 4 wheelers, dirt bikes and golf carts. I see too many head injuries that could have been prevented.
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| Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 12:37 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 11:29 AM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:03 AM LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 11:53 PM Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it. "Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think: That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens? You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you. You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you. You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body. Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky. But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD. That's assuming you die. If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it? Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck. Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants. Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards. Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose. But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way." Given this rant directed at "selfish" non helmet wearers, does it change your opinion of anyone in the spotlight who doesn't wear a helmet? Do you see them as selfish? I'm talking about the big guns who set examples like world champions Sheri Cervi, Charmayne James, Martha Josey, or any of the top 15 at the NFR this week. I want someone to give me just ONE reason Martha Josey (or any top clinician) doesn't wear a helmet to set an example to the thousands of kids she instructs.
This is where I give Fallon HUGE props for stepping out, and stepping UP to the plate to break that mold. Now, with 2 very good charities with awsome causes putting it out there for the NFR barrel racers this year to wear one , and Fallon putting it out there she will match the donations, YEP, I sure do look at it as selfish. I have a whole new respect for Fallon now. She is confidant within herself to step out there! I cant believe, even for just one night they cant/wont put stuck in the old vanity mold aside. The message it sends is HUGE. We just have to get more used to seeing them, and seeing them in the limelight. More people are getting smarter every day though.
yes yoou are be comabative they are not being selfish how do you figure its a called choice unlike obaman care
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| I have been riding for years and never wore a helmet. Last year I fractured my skull from a horse accident. I was taken flight for life. Keep in mind not all insurances cover things like flight! My flight alone was $19,000!! My sister was there and still can't even talk about the accident. I was unconscious and don't remember anything, but she sure does. She held my head, full of blood until rescue got there. We are both EMT's and i can tell you she has seen some s**t. Family is different. I not only wear a helmet now because I am lucky to be alive, but I also wouldn't hear the end of it my from sister if i didn't! haha It is a choice that is completely optional, I would never make anywhere wear a helmet/ or call them selfish, but just remember it only takes ONE fall. Horses trip, loose their footing, come undone, spook, doesn't matter what kind of rider you are if your horse goes down with you.
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| Up here in NY it is the law that anyone under the age of 18 must wear a helmet while on a horse. While this sent a ripple through our high school rodeo kids at first, eventually most of them easily adjusted to wearing one, and I have yet to hear of anyone of them poking fun at another for wearing a helmet. A cowboy hat is truly traditional and each one is very unique to it's owner so I understand the loyalty to our western heritage when it comes to cowboy hats.
I feel that the hat/helmet debate is something each of us have to decide for ourselves because in the end, we are the ones that have to live with our choices.
I think it is great that Fallon is promoting helmet's even if it is for financial gain. She is still showing our youngsters that it is "cool" to wear one and I applaud her for that.
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Location: East of the Pecos | vjls - 2014-12-12 1:01 PM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 12:37 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 11:29 AM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:03 AM LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 11:53 PM Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it. "Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think: That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens? You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you. You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you. You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body. Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky. But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD. That's assuming you die. If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it? Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck. Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants. Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards. Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose. But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way." Given this rant directed at "selfish" non helmet wearers, does it change your opinion of anyone in the spotlight who doesn't wear a helmet? Do you see them as selfish? I'm talking about the big guns who set examples like world champions Sheri Cervi, Charmayne James, Martha Josey, or any of the top 15 at the NFR this week. I want someone to give me just ONE reason Martha Josey (or any top clinician) doesn't wear a helmet to set an example to the thousands of kids she instructs.
This is where I give Fallon HUGE props for stepping out, and stepping UP to the plate to break that mold. Now, with 2 very good charities with awsome causes putting it out there for the NFR barrel racers this year to wear one , and Fallon putting it out there she will match the donations, YEP, I sure do look at it as selfish. I have a whole new respect for Fallon now. She is confidant within herself to step out there! I cant believe, even for just one night they cant/wont put stuck in the old vanity mold aside. The message it sends is HUGE. We just have to get more used to seeing them, and seeing them in the limelight. More people are getting smarter every day though.
Just playing devils advocate here because it seems like everytime there is a helmet thread that only the helmet wearers post, the hat wearers are afraid to voice their opinion so they just stay away afraid they will be condemned like we are seeing here, no wonder no one admits to wanting to wear a hat over a helmet, at least on BHW.
You missed the part where posters DID call them selfish, and yes, we can figure it's a choice until the government intervenes in our personal lives again and mandates that everyone in a dangerous sport wear a helmet, like seatbelts, but we aren't there yet, so it's still a choice, Gotta love America where we can be ourselves at least still in the horse world, we have a choice. I think it's funny that some find my choice position as being combative, That shows you are not to open to personal choice, but you want everyone to come over to your belief. No combat, just a fact, wearing a helmet in rodeo and NBHA and most horse venues is still a personal choice, that's all I'm saying. Just respectfully pointing out the other side. You see helmet wearers calling non helmet wearers selfish and having no confidence, but you don't see hat wearers saying anything derogatory about wearing a helmet because they understand it's a choice. Sorry some here don't get it.
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| "Just respectfully pointing out the other side. You see helmet wearers calling non helmet wearers selfish and having no confidence, but you don't see hat wearers saying anything derogatory about wearing a helmet because they understand it's a choice. Sorry some here don't get it."
I fully respect your choice, I truly do. And yes, it is a personal choice, I get it. Although let's face it, every choice does have a consequence, good or bad. My choices will affect my family and my friends, that is just the way it is....every time we put a foot in the stir up with a taking a chance, what we do is dangerous and s**t happens!
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Location: Kansas | GLP - 2014-12-12 1:46 PM I have to disagree with how hat wearers never say anything bad to helmut wearers. Just this weekend at a booth at the Convention Center in Las Vegas, I was told how ugly and stupid people who wear helmuts look and I was purchasing something from this guy. Yeah, I took a little offense to it, but hey to each their own is what I told the guy. He is entitled to his opinion and I to mine.
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Location: East of the Pecos | love2ridepre - 2014-12-12 1:41 PM "Just respectfully pointing out the other side. You see helmet wearers calling non helmet wearers selfish and having no confidence, but you don't see hat wearers saying anything derogatory about wearing a helmet because they understand it's a choice. Sorry some here don't get it." I fully respect your choice, I truly do. And yes, it is a personal choice, I get it. Although let's face it, every choice does have a consequence, good or bad. My choices will affect my family and my friends, that is just the way it is....every time we put a foot in the stir up with a taking a chance, what we do is dangerous and s**t happens! I do disagree with you when you say " you don't see hat wearers saying anything derogatory about wearing a helmet...." OH YES WE DO!!!
I have personally never seen anyone say something to a helmet wearer, and I respect everyone's choice to do what makes them feel comfortable. I think it's sad that anyone at all would say something derogatory about wearing a helmet, and all it shows is there are some sad people in the world, which we all know anyway. For some people, the only way they can feel self important is to put someone else down.
I agree that s**t happens, it's a part of life. For those who wear helmets, I say do it proudly, it's your choice, and don't worry about what others say. For those who choose to wear a hat, same thing, do what feels best for you personally, and don't worry about what others say.
This is all I have to say, it's sad that the hundreds of hat wearwers on here won't speak up and defend their choice, I was just presenting the other side in order to point out that the post about people who do not wear helmets are selfish, that was my only gripe. So, to those that missed it, there is definitely a post here that calls non helmet wearers selfish and worse. Go read it and you'll see it's the reason for my comments defending the untruth of that statement. Hard to get that point across for some reason. 
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2014-12-12 1:47 PM
GLP - 2014-12-12 1:46 PM I have to disagree with how hat wearers never say anything bad to helmut wearers. Just this weekend at a booth at the Convention Center in Las Vegas, I was told how ugly and stupid people who wear helmuts look and I was purchasing something from this guy. Yeah, I took a little offense to it, but hey to each their own is what I told the guy. He is entitled to his opinion and I to mine.
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Location: East of the Pecos | GLP - 2014-12-12 1:58 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-12-12 1:47 PM GLP - 2014-12-12 1:46 PM I have to disagree with how hat wearers never say anything bad to helmut wearers. Just this weekend at a booth at the Convention Center in Las Vegas, I was told how ugly and stupid people who wear helmuts look and I was purchasing something from this guy. Yeah, I took a little offense to it, but hey to each their own is what I told the guy. He is entitled to his opinion and I to mine. LOL! I should have.
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Location: Oklahoma | I will admit... I sold both my nice english helmets and I haven't bought a new one and have ridden without one for the last few years. I don't bash on anyone. I do feel that anyone under the age of 18 should have to wear a helmet, but adults can make their own choices and to each their own. |
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| Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 2:07 PM
GLP - 2014-12-12 1:58 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-12-12 1:47 PM GLP - 2014-12-12 1:46 PM I have to disagree with how hat wearers never say anything bad to helmut wearers. Just this weekend at a booth at the Convention Center in Las Vegas, I was told how ugly and stupid people who wear helmuts look and I was purchasing something from this guy. Yeah, I took a little offense to it, but hey to each their own is what I told the guy. He is entitled to his opinion and I to mine. LOL! I should have.
Did you even read my post?! I said TO EACH THEIR OWN and HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS OPINION AND I TO MINE. Geez. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | I'm not a helmet wearer ( Yet) so I dont fit your theory. Yes, I did use the term "Selfish" in this instance because the plea was publically made to the NFR contestant's to wear one. TWO charities! One is diamonds and Dirt doing the k9's for kids charity. To provide police dogs to our school's. The other was from Troxel who will donate 5 helmets to special needs kids for every contestant who does. Then Fallon is matching the $100 from diamonds and dirt for herself, and put it out there she would match diamonds and dirt for every other contestant as well. Thats $300 a round for k9's for kids! That computes to 75 helmets a round! So in this instance, yes, I find it shelfish they havent (YET anyways) done so at the very least for ONE night, for those charities. Of course it is a choice and I would never want to mandate to someone else what they do. I would just hope that some would think of how their choices not only effect themselves, but also their families, husbands, children, mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, and any spectators if they just happen to be at a race if/when the accident happens.
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Location: East of the Pecos | GLP - 2014-12-12 2:10 PM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 2:07 PM GLP - 2014-12-12 1:58 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-12-12 1:47 PM GLP - 2014-12-12 1:46 PM I have to disagree with how hat wearers never say anything bad to helmut wearers. Just this weekend at a booth at the Convention Center in Las Vegas, I was told how ugly and stupid people who wear helmuts look and I was purchasing something from this guy. Yeah, I took a little offense to it, but hey to each their own is what I told the guy. He is entitled to his opinion and I to mine. LOL! I should have. Did you even read my post?! I said TO EACH THEIR OWN and HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS OPINION AND I TO MINE. Geez.
Sorry, was more pointing this out to the other posters who think no wearing a helmet is selfish. Didn't mean to single you out. I appreciate that you recognize personal choice without adding that it's a dangerous sport and you have to think of the repurcussions to your family, etc. I shouldn't have quoted your post to say that. |
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| Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 2:54 PM
love2ridepre - 2014-12-12 1:41 PM "Just respectfully pointing out the other side. You see helmet wearers calling non helmet wearers selfish and having no confidence, but you don't see hat wearers saying anything derogatory about wearing a helmet because they understand it's a choice. Sorry some here don't get it." I fully respect your choice, I truly do. And yes, it is a personal choice, I get it. Although let's face it, every choice does have a consequence, good or bad. My choices will affect my family and my friends, that is just the way it is....every time we put a foot in the stir up with a taking a chance, what we do is dangerous and s**t happens! I do disagree with you when you say " you don't see hat wearers saying anything derogatory about wearing a helmet...." OH YES WE DO!!!
I have personally never seen anyone say something to a helmet wearer, and I respect everyone's choice to do what makes them feel comfortable. I think it's sad that anyone at all would say something derogatory about wearing a helmet, and all it shows is there are some sad people in the world, which we all know anyway. For some people, the only way they can feel self important is to put someone else down.
I agree that s**t happens, it's a part of life. For those who wear helmets, I say do it proudly, it's your choice, and don't worry about what others say. For those who choose to wear a hat, same thing, do what feels best for you personally, and don't worry about what others say.
This is all I have to say, it's sad that the hundreds of hat wearwers on here won't speak up and defend their choice, I was just presenting the other side in order to point out that the post about people who do not wear helmets are selfish, that was my only gripe. So, to those that missed it, there is definitely a post here that calls non helmet wearers selfish and worse. Go read it and you'll see it's the reason for my comments defending the untruth of that statement. Hard to get that point across for some reason.
As a childfree person, I have heard the "you're selfish" thing more times than I can count, so I understand your frustration with the statement. I don't think that people who choose not to wear helmets are selfish. However, one of the reasons I do wear a helmet is to protect my loved ones (not just myself) from the heavy toll if TBIs. Sure, accidents happen and a helmet is no guarantee, but an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.And hat wearers most certainly do make abhorrent, snide remarks regarding helmets and helmet wearers. There are a few on this thread and FB is much, MUCH worse. Holy crap, Batman! Some people are truely awful. A few comments on the Woman's Pro Rodeo page made me want to build a rocket and leave the Earth to start a colony on Mars. People never cease to amaze me. |
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| Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 2:15 PM
GLP - 2014-12-12 2:10 PM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 2:07 PM GLP - 2014-12-12 1:58 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2014-12-12 1:47 PM GLP - 2014-12-12 1:46 PM I have to disagree with how hat wearers never say anything bad to helmut wearers. Just this weekend at a booth at the Convention Center in Las Vegas, I was told how ugly and stupid people who wear helmuts look and I was purchasing something from this guy. Yeah, I took a little offense to it, but hey to each their own is what I told the guy. He is entitled to his opinion and I to mine. LOL! I should have. Did you even read my post?! I said TO EACH THEIR OWN and HE IS ENTITLED TO HIS OPINION AND I TO MINE. Geez.
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Location: Where I am happiest | ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 2:13 PM I'm not a helmet wearer ( Yet) so I dont fit your theory. Yes, I did use the term "Selfish" in this instance because the plea was publically made to the NFR contestant's to wear one. TWO charities! One is diamonds and Dirt doing the k9's for kids charity. To provide police dogs to our school's. The other was from Troxel who will donate 5 helmets to special needs kids for every contestant who does. Then Fallon is matching the $100 from diamonds and dirt for herself, and put it out there she would match diamonds and dirt for every other contestant as well. Thats $300 a round for k9's for kids! That computes to 75 helmets a round! So in this instance, yes, I find it shelfish they havent (YET anyways) done so at the very least for ONE night, for those charities. Of course it is a choice and I would never want to mandate to someone else what they do. I would just hope that some would think of how their choices not only effect themselves, but also their families, husbands, children, mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, and any spectators if they just happen to be at a race if/when the accident happens.
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| I haven't read all the posts as they all sound like a broken record.
Yes helmets will reduce the risk of skull injury and may reduce some head trauma. But is not the be all to end all in safety.
Just like people wearing seatbelts, sometimes people still die in car crashes even though they were wearing the protection.
People saying not wearing a helmet is selfish, this makes me want to wear them less. As one can also say horses are a risk and it is selfish of us to ride horses and we should stop. Where will it end?
I haven't seen enough research on riding helmets and the efficiency of them during an injury.
I do know motorcycle helmets which are built way better and cyclists are instructed to purchase a new helmet after each minor crash. My brother used to compete and he was faithful with his helmet never dropped it, if his face hit the handle bars the helmet was retired.
I have asked the next question on all helmet posts and have never received an answer so this tells me people are living in denial are are not wearing their helmets or using them as they were intended to.
If your helmet drops off the horn, you drop it on the cement, throw it in the trailer, let it ride around loose in your trailer, hook it on your horn and when the horse shakes and it bangs the horn
Do you replace it?
The reason is all those minor injuries have now compromised the integrity of the helmet
Are there expiry dates on these helmets? They are made out of similar plastic that is in car seats and they all have expiry dates.
How often do you replace your helmet
Have you ever bought a used one? To me this should be illegal as no one can guarantee the structural integrity of the helmet, riding with that false sense of security would be worse then riding without a helmet.
Are you wearing anything under the helmet? This affects the fit and function therefore reduces the integrity of the helmet. Even a barrette under the helmet could actually exacerbate the injury I skull as the barrette cannot move.
If you get bucked off, are you replacing your helmet? You should as there could be damage done not visible to the naked eye.
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| I find if selfish charities are asking for contestants to do this.
We all know this is their main "bread" making for the year. These contestants need to be on top of their game, and helmets are not easy to get used to.
I have worn them in the past and I didn't like them, it throws the balance off, and the ones I wore actually impaired my peripheral vision.
You have no idea why the other contestants said no, so how can you call them selfish?
The contestants could be claustrophobic and panic with the clasp under the neck
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Location: Blissfully happy Giants fan!!! | I can answer some of your questions Cheryl. Yes, it is imperative to change your helmet and to keep it in a place where it won't get "wear" on it. My helmet is in a bag tucked where it can't get thrown around. I don't drop it, I don't abuse it, and I am very careful for it to get "concussed" itself. In my previous post I had a head injury and had just replaced my helmet. I had taken care of that helmet for about 6 years and we were told that year (by both the manufacturer and a doctor) that 6 years was too long. I should look at replacing at about every 3 years to be on the safe side. So I do now.
Also, you have to adjust to a helmet. I have raced in one my whole life. That makes a difference. You also have to know not all helmets are alike. There are definitely some out there that I really don't like. Kensington used to make a helmet. I wore that all growing up and I have yet to find a helmet I truly like more than I did those. You also need to make sure you get the right size, it is snug, and it doesn't move. Otherwise it is not a good fit and can cause more damage than good. And the chin strap needs to be a tad snug too. Fit is so crucial and making sure you get the right brand and fit for you is what makes or breaks it. For the new helmet I got this year, it took me 5 months to find the one I liked that fit me and would work for me.
Also, in regards to non-helmet wearers/"true western/cowboy" people not saying anything, that is not true. Two guys who rope, that go to my church, told me they couldn't believe I wasn't embarrassed to wear a helmet and it was causing my balance to be off. First of all, I have a great seat. Second, my balance would be off in a run if I didn't wear my helmet. Third, I made way more money on my horses this year than they did (besides the point but I was on a roll and not pleased). I told them they were ignorant if they thought that way. I rarely get upset but these two guys I knew well and they said it in front of some impressionable teenagers. I was NOT happy.
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-12-12 2:21 PM
I haven't read all the posts as they all sound like a broken record.
********:-) yep! LOL
Yes helmets will reduce the risk of skull injury and may reduce some head trauma. But is not the be all to end all in safety.
Just like people wearing seatbelts, sometimes people still die in car crashes even though they were wearing the protection.
**** A lot of true on that, but seatbelts safe more lives than not. Same as helmets.
People saying not wearing a helmet is selfish, this makes me want to wear them less. As one can also say horses are a risk and it is selfish of us to ride horses and we should stop. Where will it end?
****I don't think this argument will end any time soon. It seems like western riding is big on tradition (I am new on the western world so I am only speaking based on my own observation). I am a helmet wearer, and I have to say... I would love to feel comfortable riding without one, and run barrels on my cowboy hat, but I've ridden with a helmet for too long and my confidence sometimes is attached to it LOL
I haven't seen enough research on riding helmets and the efficiency of them during an injury.
*******uhmmmmm....it is out there, really.
I do know motorcycle helmets which are built way better and cyclists are instructed to purchase a new helmet after each minor crash. My brother used to compete and he was faithful with his helmet never dropped it, if his face hit the handle bars the helmet was retired.
I have asked the next question on all helmet posts and have never received an answer so this tells me people are living in denial are are not wearing their helmets or using them as they were intended to.
If your helmet drops off the horn, you drop it on the cement, throw it in the trailer, let it ride around loose in your trailer, hook it on your horn and when the horse shakes and it bangs the horn
Do you replace it?
**** if my helmet shows any blemish, yes, I will replace it. Also, I am very careful with it and I never leave it in my truck in the summer.
Are there expiry dates on these helmets?
**** mine did come with a card with an expiration dates.
How often do you replace your helmet
******every two years or sooner
Have you ever bought a used one?
***** Never
Are you wearing anything under the helmet?
*****Nope, not even a barrette.
If you get bucked off, are you replacing your helmet? You should as there could be damage done not visible to the naked eye.
***** you bet I would
Anyways, I just wanted to answer your questions :-)
cheryl makofka - 2014-12-12 2:21 PM
I haven't read all the posts as they all sound like a broken record.
********:-) yep! LOL
Yes helmets will reduce the risk of skull injury and may reduce some head trauma. But is not the be all to end all in safety.
Just like people wearing seatbelts, sometimes people still die in car crashes even though they were wearing the protection.
**** A lot of true on that, but seatbelts safe more lives than not. Same as helmets.
People saying not wearing a helmet is selfish, this makes me want to wear them less. As one can also say horses are a risk and it is selfish of us to ride horses and we should stop. Where will it end?
****I don't think this argument will end any time soon. It seems like western riding is big on tradition (I am new on the western world so I am only speaking based on my own observation). I am a helmet wearer, and I have to say... I would love to feel comfortable riding without one, and run barrels on my cowboy hat, but I've ridden with a helmet for too long and my confidence sometimes is attached to it LOL
I haven't seen enough research on riding helmets and the efficiency of them during an injury.
*******uhmmmmm....it is out there, really.
I do know motorcycle helmets which are built way better and cyclists are instructed to purchase a new helmet after each minor crash. My brother used to compete and he was faithful with his helmet never dropped it, if his face hit the handle bars the helmet was retired.
I have asked the next question on all helmet posts and have never received an answer so this tells me people are living in denial are are not wearing their helmets or using them as they were intended to.
If your helmet drops off the horn, you drop it on the cement, throw it in the trailer, let it ride around loose in your trailer, hook it on your horn and when the horse shakes and it bangs the horn
Do you replace it?
**** if my helmet shows any blemish, yes, I will replace it. Also, I am very careful with it and I never leave it in my truck in the summer.
Are there expiry dates on these helmets?
**** mine did come with a card with an expiration dates.
How often do you replace your helmet
******every two years or sooner
Have you ever bought a used one?
***** Never
Are you wearing anything under the helmet?
*****Nope, not even a barrette.
If you get bucked off, are you replacing your helmet? You should as there could be damage done not visible to the naked eye.
***** you bet I would
Anyways, I just wanted to answer your questions :-)
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Location: Oklahoma | I used to work for a tack store and we were trained extensively in helmet fit, etc. You need a helmet to be snug. They break down in the padding over time and will loosen up. When the helmet is on your head, you want about a finger width between your eyebrows and the helmet. When you go to lift the helmet straight up off your head, you want it to feel like it is making your raise your eyebrows. A helmet should be replaced every 3-5 years. If you take a fall, it is recommended that the helmet be replaced. Even if the helmet appears to be fine, there could be internal structural damage. Charles Owen helmets has a helmet replacement warranty. If you fall in the 1st year and need a helmet they'll take a percentage off the cost of a helmet, 2 years a percentage, and 3 years a percentage.
eta: because I grew up showing english, I have to have my hair in a hairnet when I have a helmet on. It's a personal preference. I also keep my helmet stored in a helmet bag and in the corner shelf in my trailer so it doesn't move around.
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-12-12 2:21 PM
I haven't read all the posts as they all sound like a broken record.
Yes helmets will reduce the risk of skull injury and may reduce some head trauma. But is not the be all to end all in safety.
Just like people wearing seatbelts, sometimes people still die in car crashes even though they were wearing the protection.
People saying not wearing a helmet is selfish, this makes me want to wear them less. As one can also say horses are a risk and it is selfish of us to ride horses and we should stop. Where will it end?
I haven't seen enough research on riding helmets and the efficiency of them during an injury.
I do know motorcycle helmets which are built way better and cyclists are instructed to purchase a new helmet after each minor crash. My brother used to compete and he was faithful with his helmet never dropped it, if his face hit the handle bars the helmet was retired.
I have asked the next question on all helmet posts and have never received an answer so this tells me people are living in denial are are not wearing their helmets or using them as they were intended to.
If your helmet drops off the horn, you drop it on the cement, throw it in the trailer, let it ride around loose in your trailer, hook it on your horn and when the horse shakes and it bangs the horn
Do you replace it?
The reason is all those minor injuries have now compromised the integrity of the helmet
Are there expiry dates on these helmets? They are made out of similar plastic that is in car seats and they all have expiry dates.
How often do you replace your helmet
Have you ever bought a used one? To me this should be illegal as no one can guarantee the structural integrity of the helmet, riding with that false sense of security would be worse then riding without a helmet.
Are you wearing anything under the helmet? This affects the fit and function therefore reduces the integrity of the helmet. Even a barrette under the helmet could actually exacerbate the injury I skull as the barrette cannot move.
If you get bucked off, are you replacing your helmet? You should as there could be damage done not visible to the naked eye.
I will try to answer a few of your questions from my limited knowledge.
After an accident, I have been told to get a new helmet whether it was damaged or not.
If I drop it on the cement then yes I will replace and not use it.
I don't let my helmet ride loose in my trailer or hook it on my saddle horn, nor throw it in my trailer. I keep it in my house.
I was told to replace it every 5 years or sooner.
I would never buy a used one.
I don't wear anything under it.
If I get bucked off you can bet I'll be replacing it.
I am returning to riding after more than 10 years of not riding at all. I have found the helmet has lessened my new anxiety and doesn't affect my balance at all.
I don't believe they can prevent all injuries to the head, but I think they give you a better chance of recovery. I don't believe it's my place to tell people they should be wearing them. I think we are all intelligent enough to make our own informed decisions.
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Location: Cow tailin'. . . | Why I am wanting to comment on this post is beyond me. I haven't posted, much less frequented this site in a long time due to all the drama and the fact that reading posts only yields itself to non-productiveness. It is a choice and shouldn't make a hill of beans difference as to our opinions of who does or don't wear them and their opinion thereof. It is a choice but maybe we should make more of an effort for them to be part of our natural habits before it is mandated by governing entities that we have to wear them or else. It is a choice and we shouldn't be bashing anyone, one way or another. Personally, I do and do not agree with why FT is wearing the helmets. Great if it is to raise awareness. But I think my 14 y/o son said it best after watching the first round in which she wore a helmet as well as won the round. He looked at me and said, "If she is promoting safety, why ain't she wearing one during her victory lap." This kid don't give a rat's behind about barrel racing but don't think for a minute that these kids don't pay attention. It is insanely wonderful that she is promoting safety awareness for western sporting. However, in my honest opinion, if you are going to promote the wearing of riding helmets then do so the entire time you are horseback; not just on your competitive run but on your victory lap and any time you are seen in public horseback. Otherwise, you are sending conflicting messages and your behavior speaks louder than your words.In addition, as far as the personal choice goes; it has a lot to do with habits. The old timers; it will be harder to get them to wear them. The older the tree the stiffer with time. The younger the tree the easier to bend hence the reason Hitler wanted the children. We need someone to make it cool for the upcoming generations, hence we need FT. Children's habits are mostly established by the time they are ten. I have known older adults who received concussions barrel racing/riding when they were older adult. They were told they need to wear helmets because the next injury would kill them. They did for a while and then stopped. It boils down to habit and personal preference even though they know better.I, myself, should be wearing one as I have had multiple head injuries, enough bad enough to put me in the hospital comatose with a hoof print upside my head. Many others were just mild concussions. Other accidents should have knocked me senseless but only broke my neck, and thoracic spine. Even my nurse mother told me my face would be black the next day but it never turned. There are many others. In the comatose accident, folks told my parents that they should have just killed the ****ed horse, etc. My parents response was priceless and to the affect that I could break a leg just stepping out the front door, be hit head on by a drunk driver, or a million other things could take my life but that there was no reason to live in fear. Makes perfect sense to me. All that said; there is a month of my life from the comatose accident that I can never recover. And to know me, I don't appear to have residual issues. But can we ever.truly know. I do know that in things I have come across in general reading; there is still much they don't know about head injuries. From my reading, I have also gleaned that head injuries can cause multiple issues later on in life, not just physiologically. It can affect personality, etc. There are things about myself that ain't, necessarily, right as I think they should be and it is all areas affected as such as indicated in the reading I came across. I made my daughter wear one when she was learning to ride. In doing so, I didn't feel that I could expect her to wear one if I didn't. It was mostly until she got her balance and I probably should have made her continue to do so. It was mandatory if she wanted to learn to barrel race and get to do so. I am at fault for not enforcing it all the way through h.s. That was some years ago and we all know how teenagers can be. Thankfully, she never had any hard licks and is now grown and on her own. I do feel that much of my head injuries could have been prevented simply by better horsemanship skills and abilities. No, it won't prevent all of them but I was just turned loose on a horse with relatively little instruction that I can remember. Looking back through my life at what I remember about all off them but the one, they could have all been prevented. Bones heal, brains don't. Well, not like they should.Do I wear one? Nope. Personal choice, too busy, all the proverbial excuses. But I do know that the next lick to my head could be the last one.Though I am far from the best parent, I am far from the worst. As I get older, if I could go back, my kids would have worn one until they were of legal age and could legally make their own choices in regards to said topic. They are our children, gifted to us; let's teach them to prevent as many severe knocks to the noggin as possible with out fear of being rebuked by either side.It is unfair to either side to look down upon the other because of seemingly fanatical opinion that all should wear one or.those who refuse for whatever their reason may be. I applaud those who choose to wear. As stated, I should be but it is a personal choice based in habits, etc. It is also unfair to accuse those on the either side that are attacking others for their belief no matter how strongly they are voicing their opinion. Do I particularly have an opinion of FT. That is no one's business and should be kept to myself on a public forum. The same goes for whether or not I agree or disagree with why she is doing what she is doing because I really don't know the why's nor is it my business. I would just hope that it is for the right reasons and that she learns to correctly follow through with her bringing awareness to the concept. We need it.Fallon is accomplishing her goal in some ways. How do I know? It has folks all over the states talking about it and posting about it on forums such as this.A good amount of daylight has been wasted on something that isn't my circus nor do I have any monkeys in the fight. Now, back to my regularly scheduled programming. |
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Location: Tennessee | Ugh I have kept myself from posting on FB and other threads through all of this Fallon talk just because I know "if you don't have anything nice to say then you shouldn't say it at all"..... but my goodness I feel like if I keep biting my tongue I think it will fall off!
I am NOT a Fallon Taylor fan, just like everyone else has someone they aren't a huge fan of. It doesn't mean that I wish bad on her, I just don't like the way she does business and I just feel like her morals are different than ALOT of other barrel racers that I highly respect.
The whole "helmet" wearing from her makes me chuckle just because of the fact that a couple of years back whenever she had posted about a young girl and her mother from Canada stealing a horse from her. The "buyers" retaliated and told "their" side of the story. Along with attached emails and text messages from Fallon Taylor herself to show all the "Fallon Fans" that were harassing them that ol' Fallon isn't the woman she likes to portray to the media/public. Anyway.....long story short Fallon tells this poor girl in an email I believe something to the extent of, "We sent you her papers! Strap your helmet on and get ready you champion barrel racer!! PS LEARN TO SPELL YOU HAVE NO CREDIBILITY! I WOULD B HAPPY TO HAUL THIS MARE ANYWHERE!"..... (these are HER EXACT WORDS!) Obviously poking fun at this girl for wearing a HELMET!!!!
If you would like the exact link to this convo you can PM me....(I searched for it on google just to make sure I was not spreading any words that were not true.)
No I don't wear a helmet, probably won't ever again since I had to when I was young and competing in the 4-H Horse Club. All I can remember is how uncomfortable they were.... I DO NOT shame people for wearing helmets, more power to you!!! And good for Fallon for trying to be a good role model for the younger generation, but my opinion is that it is just ANOTHER way for her to make $$$. And there is nothing wrong with that....I guess..... But for everyone on FB that keeps talking about all of the professional bull riders that wear helmets and barrel racers should too. My husband rode bulls professionally in the PBR for years, he has suffered multiple concussions and fractured his skulls. I promise you their helmets are WAY safer than the helmets that barrel racers wear. But there is NO comparison to getting slammed, smacked in the head, stepped on, or whatever else by a 1400 lb. bull and falling off of a barrel horse. To you I say, why do saddle bronc, bareback riders, and bull doggers, not wear helmets??? They know at the end of their ride they are coming off..... This is why it is a personal choice, to each their own! Do NOT force something on someone else just because you do NOT agree with it.
Shew.....I feel so much better getting that off my chest! Thank you....
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*Sigh*...I don't see folks on here trying to force anyone to do anything be it wear a helmet, not wear a helmet, belly dance, rollerskate, run with scissors...or whatever.
Do as you wish...enjoy life...carry on.
I don't pretend to have any personal knowledge or dealings with any of these highly accomplished ladies competing at the NFR. I do know I don't change so much as the type of sock I wear when competing. I want everything the same as I practiced it...the same as I had it that last time I ran and was successful. Maybe that's silly...but I wouldn't want to change a thing if I got to the finals. Maybe for the next season I'd try something new and practice with it. But most of us wouldn't make a change in gear at the big show I bet....not even a minor one if we could avoid it. I can totally get why those other athletes may not want to change headgear at such a critical time.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I wear a helmet because since an auto accident my balance is off and nothing is going to change that. Calling people Selfish is BS. In reality we could say everyone that participates in a sport where they could get hurt is being selfish...I feel a lot safer riding without a helmet on a horse then I do riding in a car without a seatbelt..LOL |
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| ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 12:20 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 2:13 PM I'm not a helmet wearer ( Yet) so I dont fit your theory. Yes, I did use the term "Selfish" in this instance because the plea was publically made to the NFR contestant's to wear one. TWO charities! One is diamonds and Dirt doing the k9's for kids charity. To provide police dogs to our school's. The other was from Troxel who will donate 5 helmets to special needs kids for every contestant who does. Then Fallon is matching the $100 from diamonds and dirt for herself, and put it out there she would match diamonds and dirt for every other contestant as well. Thats $300 a round for k9's for kids! That computes to 75 helmets a round! So in this instance, yes, I find it shelfish they havent (YET anyways) done so at the very least for ONE night, for those charities. Of course it is a choice and I would never want to mandate to someone else what they do. I would just hope that some would think of how their choices not only effect themselves, but also their families, husbands, children, mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, and any spectators if they just happen to be at a race if/when the accident happens.
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I don't care if anyone wheres one or not, but if there are charities that are saying they will donate if people wear one then I don't see why they don't. Other than maybe they aren't used to one and are afraid it'll affect their run? That's the only thing I can think of. I sure wish they'd all team up for just one round in support of charity. |
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Location: Deep South | ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 2:13 PM
I'm not a helmet wearer ( Yet) so I dont fit your theory. Yes, I did use the term "Selfish" in this instance because the plea was publically made to the NFR contestant's to wear one. TWO charities! One is diamonds and Dirt doing the k9's for kids charity. To provide police dogs to our school's. The other was from Troxel who will donate 5 helmets to special needs kids for every contestant who does. Then Fallon is matching the $100 from diamonds and dirt for herself, and put it out there she would match diamonds and dirt for every other contestant as well. Thats $300 a round for k9's for kids! That computes to 75 helmets a round! So in this instance, yes, I find it shelfish they havent (YET anyways) done so at the very least for ONE night, for those charities. Of course it is a choice and I would never want to mandate to someone else what they do. I would just hope that some would think of how their choices not only effect themselves, but also their families, husbands, children, mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters, and any spectators if they just happen to be at a race if/when the accident happens.
This bothers me....
These charities are advertising all this helmet stuff on FACEBOOK. Do you really think that all 15 qualifiers are sitting around reading every single NFR related status that has been posted over the past 8 days like we have? They are swamped with autograph signings, appearances, RODEOING, taking care of their horses, and only God knows what else. They don't all have a professional media team like Fallon does.
Even if they are aware that it's going on, who are we to judge how they choose to compete at the largest most important rodeo of the year? They have more important things to worry about. I couldn't imagine my FIRST run in a helmet being at the NFR! Finding one that fits perfectly snug, getting used to it, etc. That took a lot of guts for Fallon to do it. I for one wouldn't have risked it and can't blame anyone else for not wanting to either.
A lot of these barrel racers have their favorite charities they support throughout the year. I for one am not going to knock them just because they didn't make a big "to-do" out of supporting these two just because they were pressured to do so right in the middle of the NFR. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Whoa....She point blank asked me if I thought it selfish if they didnt. I just fired off the first honest thought I had. Yes, to me, it seems like it but thats just my personal off the cuff thought and feelings when good charities are involved. I'm obviously not there and I never intended for this thread to get all your panties in a wad. I just wanted to give props to FT! I think what she's doing is awsome! All the little girls love her and if it changes a few peoples mind about wearing helmets then thats a GOOD THING! It at least pushed me to do it rather then talk about it. So YAY Fallon and YAY ME! So I would say it was a success.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Mary Walker hadnt been placing. She changed her bridle yesterday and WALLA, she placed in the round! Sometimes, change is a good thing! If it's not broke dont fix it but if it aint working, change something! Or if change will make it better, then by all means change something. Sort of off topic I know, but was just throwing that out there. lol |
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Location: Texas | It is a personal choice to me. I have never worn a helmet except when I rode English, and only wore it when I went into the pen to show.
I was in a bad car wreck when I was younger, hit windsheild. Who knows why I didn't make it through. I have hit the ground plenty of times on my horse and I haven't thought about wearing one.
We take chances every time we cross the street, get in our car to go to work, get on our horse. Yes, safety has came a long way but to sit down and look at it I think driving to or from work is more dangerous with the loonies on the road than me not wearing a helment, my own opinion! People are killed wearing a seatbelt and others walk away, same with ones that choose no seatbelt. When it is our time to go it is our time.
I don't see anything wrong with anyone wearing them and it doesn't bother me some do. It is their choice and my choice not to. |
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Location: North Dakota | Wearing a helmet is as important as wearing boots, to me anyway!!! My mare threw her head up and sideways hitting me in the head hard enough to knock me down like I had been hit by a linebacker, but because I was still wearing my helmet it only bruised my shoulder from hitting the ground. If I had not been wearing a helmet she would had knocked me out cold!! Everyone has the right to wear or not wear a helmet, to each his own! Jockeys wear helmets, english riders wear helmets! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Nevertooold - 2014-12-12 3:59 PM I wear a helmet because since an auto accident my balance is off and nothing is going to change that. Calling people Selfish is BS. In reality we could say everyone that participates in a sport where they could get hurt is being selfish...I feel a lot safer riding without a helmet on a horse then I do riding in a car without a seatbelt..LOL Hahaha. My husband and I were in the truck and the helmet conversation came up. After my car accident 4 years ago when a drunk driver ran a red light and t boned me going over 85 mph I now have massive panic attacks in the car. My balance, like your's is off and my left side just doesn't work like it used to. Anyway, he started laughing and said I needed to wear the helmet in the car to. Maybe I wouldn't panick as much. lol
Whether anybody else wears a helmet I dont give a rats a$$. It doesnt effect MY life one iota. The choice is their's. I just feel I owe it to MY family, and animals who depend on me and love me to do what I possibly can to stack the odds in my favor to not put them through suffering a massive brain injury because I choose to ride.
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Location: a secret | I have been wearing a helmet for several years after I sustained a serious bang to my head after getting bucked off a horse. I was told I was lucky not to be spooe fed for the rest of my life. I was told to wear a helmet or give up riding . I hate the helmet but I love to ride unfortunately for me I can not hit my head again so I wear the helmet. I am as uncomfortable riding in it as people are seeing me wear it. Kudos to Fallon for stepping up to promote safety I just hope she carries through and it is not just for the NFR and the publicilty her voice will be heard if she contiunes to wear it thorughout the year and truly be an advocate for safety. |
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| hlynn - 2014-12-11 10:35 PM
TrailGirl - 2014-12-11 10:04 PM
When she said she would be taking over 25 hats I did t know so many would be helmets!!
I love that she has the panache to pull of her wild outfits and now the helmets. Whatever the motivation for her wearing them be it safety, or merchandizing or both...the positive image of helmet wear is undeniable.
Hats off (and helmets on ) to you Fallon!
I'm with you.
Who cares if it's for money? If somewhere some young girl or guy is worrying about not being able to wear a pretty dolled up hat at the rodeo/show, and they look up on the TV and there's a barrel racer at the top of the game wearing a helmet, and think that maybe it's not so bad, then she's done a good thing.
If she makes some money in the long run, so be it. I know Nicole has had the helmet tough deal for awhile now, but Fallon is in the limelight right now and she's running with it.
THIS is what I'm screaming!!
I don't care what her motivation is, it's an amazing message she's putting out there!!
I'm 23, I started riding when I was 4. I've always ridden with a helmet. This is the first time I've ever felt proud to wear a helmet.
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| LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 11:53 PM
Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it.
"Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think:
That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens?
You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you.
You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you.
You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body.
Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky.
But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD.
That's assuming you die.
If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it?
Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck.
Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants.
Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards.
Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose.
But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way."
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| bennie1 - 2014-12-12 10:32 AM
I am not downplaying helmet use. I am curious as to whether helmets prevent concussion? I have had a concussion explained to me as the brain bouncing against the inside of your skull when you take a whack on the head, or, say when your head whacks the ground.
Football players still suffer concussions from hits and it's not just when their helmet comes off.
Does anyone know?
Two years ago I fell off, landed right on my head. Thankfully I always wear a helmet. Yes I did get a concussion. Two years later, I still don't remember a single thing about that day. I don't remember going to work for 8 hours. Going home, hooking up the trailer, hauling to a friends house, picking up her horse and driving home. I don't remember saddling up, riding and falling off. I don't remember my mom bringing me to the hospital and the house we spent there. I don't even remember when a doctor, a nurse and my mother had to hold me down while I got shots(I've never liked needles). This is what I've been told happened that day.
No, my helmet didn't prevent my concussion.
But I walked away and went home that night. The doctor said without a helmet, the results would've been way worse. |
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| NJJ - 2014-12-12 11:51 AM
Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:37 AM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-12 11:29 AM Bug Is Alive - 2014-12-12 11:03 AM LuckyNGG'sGirl - 2014-12-11 11:53 PM Wish I could credit the writer, but I'm not sure who wrote it. "Every time I see someone ranting about how helmets are a personal choice I think: That's a pretty selfish choice. You splatter yourself, you want to know what happens? You traumatize the person/people who see it happen or find you. You cause untold amounts of grief for ANYONE who cares about you. You force your family to pay for a funeral for your splattered body. Your horse will probably be sold on to someone else. Maybe they'll get lucky, or maybe your family will blame him and dump him at an auction. And he won't get lucky. But you have no control over any of it, because you're DEAD. That's assuming you die. If you don't die, and just get a traumatic brain injury... Well its your lucky day, ain't it? Maybe your ability to breathe will be compromised, and they'll alter your airway so you breathe through a hole in your neck. Maybe you'll be incontinent and spend the rest of your life in diapers, sh*tting your pants. Maybe you'll be REALLY **** LUCKY, have to relearn to walk, talk, feed yourself and wipe when you go to the bathroom. And have a sort of normal life afterwards. Or you could put on a helmet. It might hurt your pride. It might make your head sweaty! You might not look as picture perfect without your hair flying loose. But you're a hell of a lot less likely to get yourself killed that way." Given this rant directed at "selfish" non helmet wearers, does it change your opinion of anyone in the spotlight who doesn't wear a helmet? Do you see them as selfish? I'm talking about the big guns who set examples like world champions Sheri Cervi, Charmayne James, Martha Josey, or any of the top 15 at the NFR this week. I want someone to give me just ONE reason Martha Josey (or any top clinician) doesn't wear a helmet to set an example to the thousands of kids she instructs.
This is where I give Fallon HUGE props for stepping out, and stepping UP to the plate to break that mold. Now, with 2 very good charities with awsome causes putting it out there for the NFR barrel racers this year to wear one , and Fallon putting it out there she will match the donations, YEP, I sure do look at it as selfish. I have a whole new respect for Fallon now. She is confidant within herself to step out there! I cant believe, even for just one night they cant/wont put stuck in the old vanity mold aside. The message it sends is HUGE. We just have to get more used to seeing them, and seeing them in the limelight. More people are getting smarter every day though.
Probably 99% wear vests but I think it is still a long ways off from 70 percent wearing helmets. And to equate barrel racing with the level of danger of riding bulls is silly! It's not even in the same galaxy. Helmet use may continue to grow back east but I don't see it catching on in texas etc with the majority of born and bred cowgirls. Nothing against mrs fallon but it appears that she is trying to market helmets as another income stream. Just my opinion. Unless she makes it back to the nfr again nest year I will bet we don't see a single competitor wearing one in the barrel racing. As I said barrel racing is not bullriding. Look at the other rough stock events which are a heck of a lot more dangerous than barrel racing! No one still wears them. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-12-12 2:26 PM
I find if selfish charities are asking for contestants to do this.
We all know this is their main "bread" making for the year. These contestants need to be on top of their game, and helmets are not easy to get used to.
I have worn them in the past and I didn't like them, it throws the balance off, and the ones I wore actually impaired my peripheral vision.
You have no idea why the other contestants said no, so how can you call them selfish?
The contestants could be claustrophobic and panic with the clasp under the neck
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Location: Heart of Texas | I couldn't care one way or another if someone wears a helmet or doesn't but I wouldn't put it past Fallon to do it for publicity only. Which is not cool. We'll see if she wears one from now on....but i highly doubt it. |
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| It should be a personal choice period! I don't care if you do or you dont bc I believe to each their own. The ones saying it's selfish to not wear one because they have a family and loved ones who depend on them and if they get hurt then they would suffer as well is ironic to me. How many of you eat unhealthy, smoke cigarettes, drink alcohol in excess, don't get enough sleep, etc??? All these things cause disease and illnesses and it does take away from your loved ones but you don't want anyone telling you what to eat, drink or what have you.
Hands down FT is an awesome jockey and Babyflo is bad to the bone, however I really dislike that she has taken the helmet issue and put herself center stage with it. I'll agree it is a huge platform for marketing but she really has placed the other 14 contestants "on the spot" with it and that is unprofessional in my opinion. Those ladies worked just as hard to get there and to have this overshadow and take center stage is unfair to them. IMO FT is the selfish one. She's getting paid to wear them folks and that's the bottom line for her. |
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| jewishprincess - 2014-12-13 9:21 AM
I couldn't care one way or another if someone wears a helmet or doesn't but I wouldn't put it past Fallon to do it for publicity only. Which is not cool. We'll see if she wears one from now on....but i highly doubt it.
Why is that not cool?
There seems to be two types of people with this subject, those that undertand that while she may be making money selling the helmets, she is doing this to bring awareness, to make those who do wear a helmet feel less goofy and to show the younger generation it is ok to slap a helmet on for 14 seconds and look glam the rest of the time.
Then then there are the people who say shes only doing it for attention and to make money.. I guess if you had any kind of understanding in the ways of marketing, advertising, and business you'd see what she's doing is actually super cool and smart!
I'm shocked anyone has anything negative to say about her wearing one and selling them. How is it ANY different than the girls wearing their sponsor's jeans, hats, tack, saddles etc and then hanging out at the conventions and selling them? It's not. Fallon caters to the divisional, younger barrel racers and she is a hell of a role model in my opinion. She is 1 of 15 barrel racers wearing a helmet at the NFR, the most publicized rodeo..... If she doesn't continue to wear one, oh well, she did her part by wearing one for 9 rounds of the NFR! |
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Location: Heart of Texas | MNcanchaser7 - 2014-12-13 10:03 AM
jewishprincess - 2014-12-13 9:21 AM
I couldn't care one way or another if someone wears a helmet or doesn't but I wouldn't put it past Fallon to do it for publicity only. Which is not cool. We'll see if she wears one from now on....but i highly doubt it.
Why is that not cool?
There seems to be two types of people with this subject, those that undertand that while she may be making money selling the helmets, she is doing this to bring awareness, to make those who do wear a helmet feel less goofy and to show the younger generation it is ok to slap a helmet on for 14 seconds and look glam the rest of the time.
Then then there are the people who say shes only doing it for attention and to make money.. I guess if you had any kind of understanding in the ways of marketing, advertising, and business you'd see what she's doing is actually super cool and smart!
I'm shocked anyone has anything negative to say about her wearing one and selling them. How is it ANY different than the girls wearing their sponsor's jeans, hats, tack, saddles etc and then hanging out at the conventions and selling them? It's not. Fallon caters to the divisional, younger barrel racers and she is a hell of a role model in my opinion. She is 1 of 15 barrel racers wearing a helmet at the NFR, the most publicized rodeo..... If she doesn't continue to wear one, oh well, she did her part by wearing one for 9 rounds of the NFR!
Everyone on this board gets the marketing aspect of this, nobody is denying that, what some of us are trying to say is that we hope her interest in this isn't dis-in guine. I'm sure you've heard the saying, practise what you preach? Don't preach that smoking is bad then go have a cigarette behind the building. Sherry endorses Crown C saddles and RIDES in one. Fallon endorses Vortex but rides in a treeless. She may have a LOUD voice but it's not a very credible one is she doesn't follow through. That's all I'm saying. |
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Location: LOUISIANA | Personal Choice. If memory serves me right a few years ago there was an NFR barrel racer that wore a helmet. I cant remember her name though. |
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Location: Online | To avoid offending someone, because someone will be offended if I type what I'm thinking, and avoid being called a "couch jockey that can't get out of the 4D". I will keep my thoughts to myself about Fallon Taylor. |
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| As a marketing professional I completely understand the platform and all the exposure doing this at the NFR will gain however, on the flip side is all the sponsors that helped her get there all year round. The helmet company has taken center stage and all the talk is about them! They're benefiting it seems greatly. My marketing director would be ticked if we sponsored her all year long and she got a new sponsor AT THE NFR and was taking center stage. I'd be surprised if there wasn't some back lash from her current sponsors. It's this type of "winning at all costs" attitude that I don't like. Rise to the top no matter who you offend and step on. Will she lose some sponsors, maybe? But if she wins the world she'll have more. I think success is important but for me this lacks integrity, honesty and loyalty to the sponsors who've been with her ALL YEAR and to her fellow competitors who have been labeled and pressured bc of her choice.
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| iloveequine40 - 2014-12-13 11:01 AM
As a marketing professional I completely understand the platform and all the exposure doing this at the NFR will gain however, on the flip side is all the sponsors that helped her get there all year round. The helmet company has taken center stage and all the talk is about them! They're benefiting it seems greatly. My marketing director would be ticked if we sponsored her all year long and she got a new sponsor AT THE NFR and was taking center stage. I'd be surprised if there wasn't some back lash from her current sponsors. It's this type of "winning at all costs" attitude that I don't like. Rise to the top no matter who you offend and step on. Will she lose some sponsors, maybe? But if she wins the world she'll have more. I think success is important but for me this lacks integrity, honesty and loyalty to the sponsors who've been with her ALL YEAR and to her fellow competitors who have been labeled and pressured bc of her choice.
I know her main sponsors are professionals choice, glam and grit, and pro vision.. All of whom she has spoken about on social media practically every night. Her own label ranch dressn is where she is selling her helmets.. I think some people just do not like her, and will pick apart everything she does.. and thats ok. She has to have pretty thick skin at this point becasue she sure doesnt give a **** what anyone thinks about her... She is a breath of fresh air in barrel racing... IMO. Along the lines of the helmets taking center stage... i don't think any of the sponsors were expecting such awful ground at the NFR, and i do honestly believe a large part of why Fallon donned a helmet was...
A. Because she had a traumatic almost paralyzing injury, and baby flo had lots of ground trouble the first 2 rounds...
B. To make a statement about the safety of the ground.
I dont see the "winning at all costs" side of her I guess. I see someone who hustles her ASS off while staying true to who she is. Again that is just my opinion as someone who is a fan of hers. |
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| I will keep my personal feelings and real life experience with her to myself. As I said before she is an awesome jockey and babyflo is a badass and she has obviously worked hard. However, unlike most careers where you go to work from 8-5 and come home, being a professional barrel racer, athlete whatever is your entire life. Separating business mo from personal mo is near impossible. Having said that, you can bet certain character traits are present all the time. I do think, and this is my marketing opinion, that taking on a new sponsor and endorsing it at the nfr was disloyal, and lacked integrity to her current sponsors. Mentioning them on social media isn't the same in comparison bc the helmets are on there as well as being talked about every night at the nfr! |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | iloveequine40 - 2014-12-13 11:01 AM As a marketing professional I completely understand the platform and all the exposure doing this at the NFR will gain however, on the flip side is all the sponsors that helped her get there all year round. The helmet company has taken center stage and all the talk is about them! They're benefiting it seems greatly. My marketing director would be ticked if we sponsored her all year long and she got a new sponsor AT THE NFR and was taking center stage. I'd be surprised if there wasn't some back lash from her current sponsors. It's this type of "winning at all costs" attitude that I don't like. Rise to the top no matter who you offend and step on. Will she lose some sponsors, maybe? But if she wins the world she'll have more. I think success is important but for me this lacks integrity, honesty and loyalty to the sponsors who've been with her ALL YEAR and to her fellow competitors who have been labeled and pressured bc of her choice.
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | rodeomom13 - 2014-12-13 11:00 AM To avoid offending someone, because someone will be offended if I type what I'm thinking, and avoid being called a "couch jockey that can't get out of the 4D". I will keep my thoughts to myself about Fallon Taylor.
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Location: Where I am happiest | She sells the helmets at her store. She is not sponsored by them. She carries 2 different brands of helmets in her store. Tipperary and Troxel. She gets no sponsorship money from either one. She said in a interview at the beginning of the NFR her husband who is a NFL football player has been after her for some time to wear a helmet. Givin her past injury, and the questionable ground, then the little girl in her booth requesting her to do so, she thought it was prime time. That is what I know! Not because I have ever talked to her,or had any dealings with her, but because by nature I am a researcher and that is what my research has turned up. I'm not a "Fan" and I'm not a "Hater". I am a fan however of the statement she is making regarding helmets to help it be more accepted. If it helps our youth, and possibly some adults to feel more confidant about wearing a helmet, then I for the life of me cant figure out how ANYONE could twist that into a bad thing. But, such as how BHW turns. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | ThreeCorners - 2014-12-13 12:31 PM She sells the helmets at her store. She is not sponsored by them. She carries 2 different brands of helmets in her store. Tipperary and Troxel. She gets no sponsorship money from either one. She said in a interview at the beginning of the NFR her husband who is a NFL football player has been after her for some time to wear a helmet. Givin her past injury, and the questionable ground, then the little girl in her booth requesting her to do so, she thought it was prime time. That is what I know! Not because I have ever talked to her,or had any dealings with her, but because by nature I am a researcher and that is what my research has turned up. I'm not a "Fan" and I'm not a "Hater". I am a fan however of the statement she is making regarding helmets to help it be more accepted. If it helps our youth, and possibly some adults to feel more confidant about wearing a helmet, then I for the life of me cant figure out how ANYONE could twist that into a bad thing. But, such as how BHW turns.
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| I don't care if you do or you dont wear a helmet! It should be a personal choice. I don't see anything negative if someone wants to wear one. I don't agree with the TIMING of her helmet debut professionally or personally. I dislike that it has become the center stage. I dislike that her actions have caused the focus to shift from other contestants and this has taken center stage. I dislike that others are viewed as selfish bc they CHOOSE not to wear one.
And from a marketing standpoint it's even more disloyal to her paying sponsors if she isn't getting an endorsement check bc the helmet is being marketed by her for FREE! Her paying sponsors ARE NOT getting the same publicity the helmets are.
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Location: Where I am happiest | iloveequine40 - 2014-12-13 12:47 PM
I don't care if you do or you dont wear a helmet! It should be a personal choice. I don't see anything negative if someone wants to wear one. I don't agree with the TIMING of her helmet debut professionally or personally. I dislike that it has become the center stage. I dislike that her actions have caused the focus to shift from other contestants and this has taken center stage. I dislike that others are viewed as selfish bc they CHOOSE not to wear one.
And from a marketing standpoint it's even more disloyal to her paying sponsors if she isn't getting an endorsement check bc the helmet is being marketed by her for FREE! Her paying sponsors ARE NOT getting the same publicity the helmets are.
I believe it has become center stage because
1) This is the NFR
2) She has been on FIRE. Running tuff as nails.
Had she been not placing round after round it wouldn't be talked about as much but because she has been center stage night after night then of course she is talked about. Heck, there was a thread on here even asking what she weighed.
As far as the timing....are you kidding me? No, she should not do what she felt best for HER PERSONAL CHOICES what she thought was no time like the present. She should run on that crap ground and disregard what her husband has been after her to do and what her own heart and head was telling her to do just so some "haters" with an appearant personal vendetta axe to grind wouldn't have anything to wag their finger at. Are you freaking kidding me?????????????????????????/
And of course, HOW DARE SHE use ANY equipment she isn't endorsed by!!! Doesn't matter that the rest of the top 15 use some equipment they aren't sponsored by, but by golly she better not. Holy geezzzz I have heard it all now. |
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| I am always amused that dislike or disagreement with anyone or anything is labeled as a "hater" I just don't agree or like it. I'm allowed. I don't have the energy to hate. I just find this all interesting from a marketing perspective. I DID in my previous posts give credit for her hard work and her success :) I never once attac led her as a person :) |
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Location: Tennessee | ThreeCorners - 2014-12-13 1:10 PM
iloveequine40 - 2014-12-13 12:47 PM
I don't care if you do or you dont wear a helmet! It should be a personal choice. I don't see anything negative if someone wants to wear one. I don't agree with the TIMING of her helmet debut professionally or personally. I dislike that it has become the center stage. I dislike that her actions have caused the focus to shift from other contestants and this has taken center stage. I dislike that others are viewed as selfish bc they CHOOSE not to wear one.
And from a marketing standpoint it's even more disloyal to her paying sponsors if she isn't getting an endorsement check bc the helmet is being marketed by her for FREE! Her paying sponsors ARE NOT getting the same publicity the helmets are.
I believe it has become center stage because
1 ) This is the NFR
2 ) She has been on FIRE. Running tuff as nails.
Had she been not placing round after round it wouldn't be talked about as much but because she has been center stage night after night then of course she is talked about. Heck, there was a thread on here even asking what she weighed.
As far as the timing....are you kidding me? No, she should not do what she felt best for HER PERSONAL CHOICES what she thought was no time like the present. She should run on that crap ground and disregard what her husband has been after her to do and what her own heart and head was telling her to do just so some "haters" with an appearant personal vendetta axe to grind wouldn't have anything to wag their finger at. Are you freaking kidding me?????????????????????????/
And of course, HOW DARE SHE use ANY equipment she isn't endorsed by!!! Doesn't matter that the rest of the top 15 use some equipment they aren't sponsored by, but by golly she better not. Holy geezzzz I have heard it all now.
It has become center stage b/c...
#1 She has plastered her outfits/pictures all over FB and other social media so that she can win best dressed.
#2 She has a huge following from younger barrel racers and so everyone feels the need to take up for her when she is being bashed about her outfits, riding style, helmets, etc....
#3 She has talked about it in every and all interviews she has had
If she doesn't have a sponsorship with a helmet company yet, I am sure she easily could after her "performance" at the NFR. But I highly doubt she continues to wear helmets once the dust settles.
I am with the other ladies in that I feel like it is extremely disappointing in the way that there has almost seemed to be a negative light shined on the other contestants because they aren't doing what "Fallon" is doing.
Also I wouldn't say she has been on FIRE.....I don't think anyone can be on FIRE with the ground conditions the way they are. But yes she has made some good runs.... |
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ThreeCorners - 2014-12-13 1:10 PM
iloveequine40 - 2014-12-13 12:47 PM
I don't care if you do or you dont wear a helmet! It should be a personal choice. I don't see anything negative if someone wants to wear one. I don't agree with the TIMING of her helmet debut professionally or personally. I dislike that it has become the center stage. I dislike that her actions have caused the focus to shift from other contestants and this has taken center stage. I dislike that others are viewed as selfish bc they CHOOSE not to wear one.
And from a marketing standpoint it's even more disloyal to her paying sponsors if she isn't getting an endorsement check bc the helmet is being marketed by her for FREE! Her paying sponsors ARE NOT getting the same publicity the helmets are.
I believe it has become center stage because
1 ) This is the NFR
2 ) She has been on FIRE. Running tuff as nails.
Had she been not placing round after round it wouldn't be talked about as much but because she has been center stage night after night then of course she is talked about. Heck, there was a thread on here even asking what she weighed.
As far as the timing....are you kidding me? No, she should not do what she felt best for HER PERSONAL CHOICES what she thought was no time like the present. She should run on that crap ground and disregard what her husband has been after her to do and what her own heart and head was telling her to do just so some "haters" with an appearant personal vendetta axe to grind wouldn't have anything to wag their finger at. Are you freaking kidding me?????????????????????????/
And of course, HOW DARE SHE use ANY equipment she isn't endorsed by!!! Doesn't matter that the rest of the top 15 use some equipment they aren't sponsored by, but by golly she better not. Holy geezzzz I have heard it all now.
It has become center stage b/c...
#1 She has plastered her outfits/pictures all over FB and other social media so that she can win best dressed.
#2 She has a huge following from younger barrel racers and so everyone feels the need to take up for her when she is being bashed about her outfits, riding style, helmets, etc....
#3 She has talked about it in every and all interviews she has had
If she doesn't have a sponsorship with a helmet company yet, I am sure she easily could after her "performance" at the NFR. But I highly doubt she continues to wear helmets once the dust settles.
I am with the other ladies in that I feel like it is extremely disappointing in the way that there has almost seemed to be a negative light shined on the other contestants because they aren't doing what "Fallon" is doing.
Also I wouldn't say she has been on FIRE.....I don't think anyone can be on FIRE with the ground conditions the way they are. But yes she has made some good runs....
You have just said everything I've been thinking for the last few days.
I was a true Fallon follower two years ago before she went back on all the things she preached because she was beginning to get endorsements.
It would seem everyone is forgetting the terrible business practices and scams she ran.
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Location: in the middle of backwoods iowa | I didn't wear one until college- 19 years ago. I now wear a helmet when I am on either of my horses- breathing or steel. I live in a no helmet law state for motorcycles but still wear it- I have kids to stay around for! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | TMEquine - 2014-12-13 1:58 PM S_W - 2014-12-13 12:33 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-13 1:10 PM iloveequine40 - 2014-12-13 12:47 PM I don't care if you do or you dont wear a helmet! It should be a personal choice. I don't see anything negative if someone wants to wear one. I don't agree with the TIMING of her helmet debut professionally or personally. I dislike that it has become the center stage. I dislike that her actions have caused the focus to shift from other contestants and this has taken center stage. I dislike that others are viewed as selfish bc they CHOOSE not to wear one. And from a marketing standpoint it's even more disloyal to her paying sponsors if she isn't getting an endorsement check bc the helmet is being marketed by her for FREE! Her paying sponsors ARE NOT getting the same publicity the helmets are. I believe it has become center stage because 1 ) This is the NFR 2 ) She has been on FIRE. Running tuff as nails. Had she been not placing round after round it wouldn't be talked about as much but because she has been center stage night after night then of course she is talked about. Heck, there was a thread on here even asking what she weighed. As far as the timing....are you kidding me? No, she should not do what she felt best for HER PERSONAL CHOICES what she thought was no time like the present. She should run on that crap ground and disregard what her husband has been after her to do and what her own heart and head was telling her to do just so some "haters" with an appearant personal vendetta axe to grind wouldn't have anything to wag their finger at. Are you freaking kidding me?????????????????????????/ And of course, HOW DARE SHE use ANY equipment she isn't endorsed by!!! Doesn't matter that the rest of the top 15 use some equipment they aren't sponsored by, but by golly she better not. Holy geezzzz I have heard it all now. It has become center stage b/c... #1 She has plastered her outfits/pictures all over FB and other social media so that she can win best dressed. #2 She has a huge following from younger barrel racers and so everyone feels the need to take up for her when she is being bashed about her outfits, riding style, helmets, etc.... #3 She has talked about it in every and all interviews she has had If she doesn't have a sponsorship with a helmet company yet, I am sure she easily could after her "performance" at the NFR. But I highly doubt she continues to wear helmets once the dust settles. I am with the other ladies in that I feel like it is extremely disappointing in the way that there has almost seemed to be a negative light shined on the other contestants because they aren't doing what "Fallon" is doing. Also I wouldn't say she has been on FIRE.....I don't think anyone can be on FIRE with the ground conditions the way they are. But yes she has made some good runs.... You have just said everything I've been thinking for the last few days. I was a true Fallon follower two years ago before she went back on all the things she preached because she was beginning to get endorsements. It would seem everyone is forgetting the terrible business practices and scams she ran. GO LISA GO!!!
Nobody is forgetting anything obviously as it has been brought up on almost every page. However, it has NOTHING to do with wearing a helmet. I dont believe anybody is all bad, nor is anybody except Jesus all good. I also believe in giving credit where credit is due. |
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Location: The edge of no where | Ever hung out with a bunch of kids? They're MEAN! I see it as a huge positive that Fallon is trying to make it cool/mainstream to wear a helmet. I don't wear one, but every time I watch the youth classes I spend a lot of time wincing until they get pulled up. Some of these kids are really good riders, but shutting down the high powered fire breathing dragons they're on can be so scary to watch. If by watching someone run at the NFR and pretty much kick butt in a helmet makes anyone else feel more comfortable about wearing theirs, then can't we just look at the positive of that? I've seen snarky posts from team ropers about helmets not belonging in a cowboy sport, and I know they'd be just as tacky in person. I have thick skin and have no problem standing up for myself or anyone else....but what about those that are just getting started and take it to heart? As long as no one is forcing it on everyone, how about if we don't worry about the motives or the possibility of financial gain? Does it matter? I'm not a fan, **** sure would never do a horse deal with her....but I have a HUGE amount of respect for anyone that marketing savy that doesn't give a rat's ass what people think and I hope she is laughing all the way to the bank as her clothing line takes off and that she sells tons of helmets!
For the person that said she's not on fire....ummm... She's made $90,000 this week!!!! That's freakin impressive!
I'm hoping Lisa gets the world title tonight, RUN LOUIE RUN!!!
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Location: the end of the rainbow | MS2011 - 2014-12-13 12:44 PM Ever hung out with a bunch of kids? They're MEAN! I see it as a huge positive that Fallon is trying to make it cool/mainstream to wear a helmet. I don't wear one, but every time I watch the youth classes I spend a lot of time wincing until they get pulled up. Some of these kids are really good riders, but shutting down the high powered fire breathing dragons they're on can be so scary to watch. If by watching someone run at the NFR and pretty much kick butt in a helmet makes anyone else feel more comfortable about wearing theirs, then can't we just look at the positive of that? I've seen snarky posts from team ropers about helmets not belonging in a cowboy sport, and I know they'd be just as tacky in person. I have thick skin and have no problem standing up for myself or anyone else....but what about those that are just getting started and take it to heart? As long as no one is forcing it on everyone, how about if we don't worry about the motives or the possibility of financial gain? Does it matter? I'm not a fan, **** sure would never do a horse deal with her....but I have a HUGE amount of respect for anyone that marketing savy that doesn't give a rat's ass what people think and I hope she is laughing all the way to the bank as her clothing line takes off and that she sells tons of helmets!
For the person that said she's not on fire....ummm... She's made $90,000 this week!!!! That's freakin impressive!
I'm hoping Lisa gets the world title tonight, RUN LOUIE RUN!!!
Kids are not the only mean ones. Adults can be pretty miserable too. Just look at how critical all of us armchair quarterbacks here on bhw behave sometimes. |
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Location: North Dakota | iloveequine40 - 2014-12-13 12:47 PM I don't care if you do or you dont wear a helmet! It should be a personal choice. I don't see anything negative if someone wants to wear one. I don't agree with the TIMING of her helmet debut professionally or personally. I dislike that it has become the center stage. I dislike that her actions have caused the focus to shift from other contestants and this has taken center stage. I dislike that others are viewed as selfish bc they CHOOSE not to wear one. And from a marketing standpoint it's even more disloyal to her paying sponsors if she isn't getting an endorsement check bc the helmet is being marketed by her for FREE! Her paying sponsors ARE NOT getting the same publicity the helmets are.
I don't see how it's disloyal to her sponsors at all. People ask about the helmets, make 8 page threads on here about the helmets, the masses are in control of what gets popular. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | cavyrunsbarrels - 2014-12-13 5:00 PM iloveequine40 - 2014-12-13 12:47 PM I don't care if you do or you dont wear a helmet! It should be a personal choice. I don't see anything negative if someone wants to wear one. I don't agree with the TIMING of her helmet debut professionally or personally. I dislike that it has become the center stage. I dislike that her actions have caused the focus to shift from other contestants and this has taken center stage. I dislike that others are viewed as selfish bc they CHOOSE not to wear one. And from a marketing standpoint it's even more disloyal to her paying sponsors if she isn't getting an endorsement check bc the helmet is being marketed by her for FREE! Her paying sponsors ARE NOT getting the same publicity the helmets are. I don't see how it's disloyal to her sponsors at all. People ask about the helmets, make 8 page threads on here about the helmets, the masses are in control of what gets popular.
Because Glam and Grit donated a bunch of hand painted hats to match every outfit and they are very pricey..LOL |
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| NJJ - 2014-12-13 12:43 PM ThreeCorners - 2014-12-13 12:31 PM She sells the helmets at her store. She is not sponsored by them. She carries 2 different brands of helmets in her store. Tipperary and Troxel. She gets no sponsorship money from either one. She said in a interview at the beginning of the NFR her husband who is a NFL football player has been after her for some time to wear a helmet. Givin her past injury, and the questionable ground, then the little girl in her booth requesting her to do so, she thought it was prime time. That is what I know! Not because I have ever talked to her,or had any dealings with her, but because by nature I am a researcher and that is what my research has turned up. I'm not a "Fan" and I'm not a "Hater". I am a fan however of the statement she is making regarding helmets to help it be more accepted. If it helps our youth, and possibly some adults to feel more confidant about wearing a helmet, then I for the life of me cant figure out how ANYONE could twist that into a bad thing. But, such as how BHW turns.
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Nicole started the Helmet Tough campaign and should get her due credit for really starting the helmets in barrel racing revolution. She's been wearing one for years and whooping tail while doing it.
Who cares if Fallon front & center? She's wearing crazy clothes and a colorful helmet on a crazy fast badass of a horse!! She's grabbing attention for being consistent and running well!! Lisa is in the spotlight for leading the average and the world. Fallon is also in the spotlight for being right there in contention also. Everyone else is in the shadows because they're not in contention for the World. I love Sherry, but it hasn't been her week. Kassidy got her credit when she won a round. Trula, Brittany, Michele and Mary did also.
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| Nevertooold - 2014-12-13 5:51 PM
cavyrunsbarrels - 2014-12-13 5:00 PM iloveequine40 - 2014-12-13 12:47 PM I don't care if you do or you dont wear a helmet! It should be a personal choice. I don't see anything negative if someone wants to wear one. I don't agree with the TIMING of her helmet debut professionally or personally. I dislike that it has become the center stage. I dislike that her actions have caused the focus to shift from other contestants and this has taken center stage. I dislike that others are viewed as selfish bc they CHOOSE not to wear one. And from a marketing standpoint it's even more disloyal to her paying sponsors if she isn't getting an endorsement check bc the helmet is being marketed by her for FREE! Her paying sponsors ARE NOT getting the same publicity the helmets are. I don't see how it's disloyal to her sponsors at all. People ask about the helmets, make 8 page threads on here about the helmets, the masses are in control of what gets popular.
She wore the Glam and Grit hats in every social media photo, and all day long while at the conventions and autograph signings... |
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| hlynn - 2014-12-13 6:37 PM
Nicole started the Helmet Tough campaign and should get her due credit for really starting the helmets in barrel racing revolution. She's been wearing one for years and whooping tail while doing it.
Who cares if Fallon front & center? She's wearing crazy clothes and a colorful helmet on a crazy fast badass of a horse!! She's grabbing attention for being consistent and running well!! Lisa is in the spotlight for leading the average and the world. Fallon is also in the spotlight for being right there in contention also. Everyone else is in the shadows because they're not in contention for the World. I love Sherry, but it hasn't been her week. Kassidy got her credit when she won a round. Trula, Brittany, Michele and Mary did also.
Other than that it's been the Louie and Baby Flo Show!
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| Tony Pitcock trainer of Red Man Bay has also always worn a helmet. I wear one sometimes when I'm on a green horse but not usually. However, it's hard to argue with the fact that it truly is the smartest thing to do. It's like wearing your seat belt in your car....it's for the unexpected accident not for the normal everyday thing...preparedfor the worse case scenario and be safe rather than sorry. |
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Location: Midwest | Here's my thoughts:
1) Congrats to Fallon for riding the hair off that horse and doing so well. She was really fun to watch!
2) If you wear a helmet, cool
3) If you wear a hat, cool
4) Congrats to ALL the ladies that ran at the NFR this week. While some had a better week than others, they are all amazing riders with extremely talented horses (or they would not be there!). They are all champions, and I enjoyed watching the skilled riders and beautiful horses.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | runs4fun - 2014-12-14 7:42 AM Tony Pitcock trainer of Red Man Bay has also always worn a helmet. I wear one sometimes when I'm on a green horse but not usually. However, it's hard to argue with the fact that it truly is the smartest thing to do. It's like wearing your seat belt in your car....it's for the unexpected accident not for the normal everyday thing...preparedfor the worse case scenario and be safe rather than sorry.
I've seen Tony ride...it was definitely in his best interest to wear a helmet. |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | When I think about all the barriers that have been pushed down so I can be the person I am and live the life I live, I think about the women who dared to be different and step off the edge. We need to remember all those women every day and thank them that we can do what we do today.. in the work world...in the rodeo arena. You can bet that they were confident, talented and brave. Our country was founded via the pioneer spirit.... Fallon most certainly exhibits that pioneer spirit with every breathe she takes. |
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| All I have to say is your brain isn't fully developed until you are 24. I believe that it should be mandatory for 18 and under to wear a helmet. Also I love Fallon Taylor's outfits and she made awesome runs! |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-12-14 1:44 PM Here's my thoughts:
1) Congrats to Fallon for riding the hair off that horse and doing so well. She was really fun to watch!
2) If you wear a helmet, cool
3) If you wear a hat, cool
4) Congrats to ALL the ladies that ran at the NFR this week. While some had a better week than others, they are all amazing riders with extremely talented horses (or they would not be there!). They are all champions, and I enjoyed watching the skilled riders and beautiful horses.
The end
You've got that right! All talented (riders AND horses) and fun to watch! |
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Location: Online | Here's my deal on Fallon.
Ok, it's admirable that she has overcome such a serious injury and other hardships to become a world champion. Maybe she does deserve it, I'm not one to decide that. But for me it's all about impression. For me the impression is not a good one. She thinks she needs to be all in your face flamboyant, putting herself out there to be noticed. She is throwing herself out there to be noticed by her look, and not her ability. Which is her choice. It is also my choice to not agree with it. I don't know her, I don't know what she's like without the glitz and glam. To me it's better for a Sherry Cervi, Lisa Lockhart, Michele McCleod, and Mary Walker to be a role model. They quietly and humbly kick ass. For me that's what it's all about. Let your actions speak louder than your words and how noticeable you can be. They don't go out and disparage others who criticize them. They don't need to. I lost all respect for Fallon when she made her "couch jockeys that can't get out of the 4D" comments. Then she backtracked and tried to do damage control. Didn't work in my mind. She doesn't know how many "couch jockeys" there are out there who know what they are talking about. One thing I have learned in my many years is you can never know everything and you can always learn from someone. If somebody tells me I am doing something wrong and give me advice to fix it, I will take their advice and try it. Most of the time it works. Sometimes you can be so closed minded that you are only handicapping yourself. There are some things that she could do different, but hey, she's world champ. Who am I to point them out? Just sayin'.
There. That's my two cents.
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Location: Tennessee | rodeomom13 - 2014-12-14 8:20 PM
Here's my deal on Fallon.
Ok, it's admirable that she has overcome such a serious injury and other hardships to become a world champion. Maybe she does deserve it, I'm not one to decide that. But for me it's all about impression. For me the impression is not a good one. She thinks she needs to be all in your face flamboyant, putting herself out there to be noticed. She is throwing herself out there to be noticed by her look, and not her ability. Which is her choice. It is also my choice to not agree with it. I don't know her, I don't know what she's like without the glitz and glam. To me it's better for a Sherry Cervi, Lisa Lockhart, Michele McCleod, and Mary Walker to be a role model. They quietly and humbly kick ass. For me that's what it's all about. Let your actions speak louder than your words and how noticeable you can be. They don't go out and disparage others who criticize them. They don't need to. I lost all respect for Fallon when she made her "couch jockeys that can't get out of the 4D" comments. Then she backtracked and tried to do damage control. Didn't work in my mind. She doesn't know how many "couch jockeys" there are out there who know what they are talking about. One thing I have learned in my many years is you can never know everything and you can always learn from someone. If somebody tells me I am doing something wrong and give me advice to fix it, I will take their advice and try it. Most of the time it works. Sometimes you can be so closed minded that you are only handicapping yourself. There are some things that she could do different, but hey, she's world champ. Who am I to point them out? Just sayin'.
There. That's my two cents.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Delta Cowgirl - 2014-12-14 2:24 PM When I think about all the barriers that have been pushed down so I can be the person I am and live the life I live, I think about the women who dared to be different and step off the edge. We need to remember all those women every day and thank them that we can do what we do today.. in the work world...in the rodeo arena. You can bet that they were confident, talented and brave. Our country was founded via the pioneer spirit.... Fallon most certainly exhibits that pioneer spirit with every breathe she takes.
I think you missed the memo. I know she missed this one:
 He knows when you are sleeping,
he knows when you're awake.
He knows when you've been bad or good,
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Delta Cowgirl - 2014-12-14 2:24 PM When I think about all the barriers that have been pushed down so I can be the person I am and live the life I live, I think about the women who dared to be different and step off the edge. We need to remember all those women every day and thank them that we can do what we do today.. in the work world...in the rodeo arena. You can bet that they were confident, talented and brave. Our country was founded via the pioneer spirit.... Fallon most certainly exhibits that pioneer spirit with every breathe she takes.
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| I'm curious as to how many of you have ever ACTUALLY interacted with Fallon.. I mean, shook her hand, spoke with her, had an actual transaction or conversation with her. I'm also curious as to how many of you have practically single handedly created a brand, horse business and boutique and never made mistakes...
On top of all that, she managed to hit almost 100 rodeos, qualify for the NFR, and WIN THE WORLD. Certainly none of you on this thread can say the same.
Lots of you don't like her color and braziness. I also feel like some of you are just flat out jealous and hateful. Fallon LOVES media, I say that and hope you take it with a grain of salt... Media=her fans, money to keep her going down the road, and more MONEY, TALK, INTEREST for rodeo.
Fallon is a love me or hate me type of person, that's no secret. But some of the "hate" coming from you ladies goes beyond your "opinion". It's tasteless and quite frankly immature....
I really hope that all of you that have so much to say about her run into her somewhere, someday. You can feel the genuine kindess and love of rodeo and all that comes with it radiating off of her...
It says a lot to to have so much to say about someone you have never actaully met, or had any kind of business dealings with besides what you heard. I bid you all luck in scrubbing the green off of your faces tonight before bed.
Remember JEALOUSY and HATE are ugly on everybody, a hell of a lot uglier than any helmet or outfit Fallon wears.
MERRY CHRISTMAS
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Location: Peach State | I'm not a "fan" of Fallon, but I'm certiantly not a "hater" however I wish Lisa Lockhart would get more attention for how great of a role model she TRUELY is. I love what she said in an interview this week..." Barrel racing is what I do not who I am" She is a mom and wife first and geniuely appreciates her ability to barrel race on the professional level but it's not her whole identity. |
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Location: Online | MNcanchaser7 - 2014-12-14 8:47 PM
I'm curious as to how many of you have ever ACTUALLY interacted with Fallon.. I mean, shook her hand, spoke with her, had an actual transaction or conversation with her. I'm also curious as to how many of you have practically single handedly created a brand, horse business and boutique and never made mistakes...
On top of all that, she managed to hit almost 100 rodeos, qualify for the NFR, and WIN THE WORLD. Certainly none of you on this thread can say the same.
Lots of you don't like her color and braziness. I also feel like some of you are just flat out jealous and hateful. Fallon LOVES media, I say that and hope you take it with a grain of salt... Media=her fans, money to keep her going down the road, and more MONEY, TALK, INTEREST for rodeo.
Fallon is a love me or hate me type of person, that's no secret. But some of the "hate" coming from you ladies goes beyond your "opinion". It's tasteless and quite frankly immature....
I really hope that all of you that have so much to say about her run into her somewhere, someday. You can feel the genuine kindess and love of rodeo and all that comes with it radiating off of her...
It says a lot to to have so much to say about someone you have never actaully met, or had any kind of business dealings with besides what you heard. I bid you all luck in scrubbing the green off of your faces tonight before bed.
Remember JEALOUSY and HATE are ugly on everybody, a hell of a lot uglier than any helmet or outfit Fallon wears.
MERRY CHRISTMAS
I can't hate or be jealous of someone I don't know. Your comments here are no better than the opinions about her that you don't agree with. Do you know those of us who share our negative opinions? Maybe some of us have interacted with her. I haven't, but I already stated my case. That is my prerogative. Just like it's your prerogative to share how you feel. To call anyone a hater or jealous doesn't justify anything. |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | This is how I look at Fallon. She is cute, I didn't want to pay her advertising fees but I really like how she rides. Every time I see her ride it is like she is riding hell bent for leather! I really like that! As you all know I don't ride horses but have just bred them but I use to be a ski racer back in the glory days and Fallon rides like a Giant Slalom and Down hill ski racers. Just go for it and see what happens! I also liked that she wore the helmets! I didn't know they came in all those colors! |
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Location: Adkins, Texas | I have never met Fallon, I love the way she rides BabyFlo, I love BabyFlo's heart and try and I would NEVER have any business dealings with Fallon!!! |
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Location: MD | runs4fun - 2014-12-14 7:42 AM
Tony Pitcock trainer of Red Man Bay has also always worn a helmet. I wear one sometimes when I'm on a green horse but not usually. However, it's hard to argue with the fact that it truly is the smartest thing to do. It's like wearing your seat belt in your car....it's for the unexpected accident not for the normal everyday thing...preparedfor the worse case scenario and be safe rather than sorry.
I know and love Tony. I have much respect for the man. He is the most kind hearted individual that anyone could ever meet. He did not however, train Red Man Bay! He rode him, as did a lot of other people. He won a pile on him, as did a lot of other people, both before and after Mr Tony. |
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Location: The South | Rockymyboy - 2014-12-14 5:54 PM All I have to say is your brain isn't fully developed until you are 24.
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Location: Texas | It's funny how someone "popular" does something and suddenly it's the cool thing to do. Many of us have been wearing and endorsing helmets for awhile now, yet no one really pays attention. Since I started wearing one, I have had a few people ask me about it, but I still see them without one. It's just not "cool". I even wear them at the rodeos, it's way cooler than a brain injury... Maybe now that someone young, & at the NFR, wore one it will catch on. Personally, it doesn't really matter to me if people wear one or not, it's your brain that is at risk and if vanity is more important to you than a helmet - well more power to you! :)
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Location: Cyberspace | This thread is about Fallon & helmets
It needs to stay on topic or it is going to be frozen
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Location: Midwest | ForumAdmin - 2014-12-15 6:47 AM This thread is about Fallon & helmets
It needs to stay on topic or it is going to be frozen
Everyone needs to "Let It Go"
ETA: I'm so punny
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-12-15 8:25 AM
ForumAdmin - 2014-12-15 6:47 AM This thread is about Fallon & helmets
It needs to stay on topic or it is going to be frozen
Everyone needs to "Let It Go"
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | MNcanchaser7 - 2014-12-15 9:52 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-12-15 8:25 AM ForumAdmin - 2014-12-15 6:47 AM This thread is about Fallon & helmets
It needs to stay on topic or it is going to be frozen
Everyone needs to "Let It Go" ETA: I'm so punny HA!
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Heaven help us all if she wins a repeat world title next year. If she wins 2-3, I can't even imagine the hysteria. I think a few people will either have a stroke, or lose their minds. As for Fallon, I honestly don't think she gives two rips what people say about her on BHW. If anything, it will just embolden her. Personally, I couldn't care less, one way or another. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Me, I still love her clothes - especially the last outfit. |
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | What I want to know is when is she going to be on top of BHW? |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ksjackofalltrades - 2014-12-15 11:30 AM What I want to know is when is she going to be on top of BHW?
She's up there already. I think since last night. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Three 4 Luck - 2014-12-14 12:38 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-12-15 11:30 AM What I want to know is when is she going to be on top of BHW? She's up there already. I think since last night.
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Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | CJE - 2014-12-15 11:53 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-12-14 12:38 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-12-15 11:30 AM What I want to know is when is she going to be on top of BHW? She's up there already. I think since last night. Don't think so...
She's there. Try refreshing your page...maybe. |
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Location: oklahoma | she's not on mine either and I refreshed. Maybe she's on my ipad at home? ;) |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | CurlyQ - 2014-12-15 11:56 AM she's not on mine either and I refreshed. Maybe she's on my ipad at home? ;)
idk then, lol, she was on mine when I signed on this morning. Her and Troy Crumrine are up. |
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Location: Online | Anyone notice we have the like button back? Heaven help us. I noticed Fallon at the top last night......
If this is about Fallon and helmets, I don't really care who does or doesn't wear a helmet. I don't care the reason behind her wearing one. It's a personal choice. I don't think anyone should be mandated to wear one, even kids. I also don't think people should be berated for not wearing one or not making their kids wear one, or made fun of if they do. Is it a good idea? Probably. Anything can happen in a horse race.
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Location: Oklahoma | LRQHS - 2014-12-15 11:57 AM
CurlyQ - 2014-12-15 11:56 AM she's not on mine either and I refreshed. Maybe she's on my ipad at home? ;)
idk then, lol, she was on mine when I signed on this morning. Her and Troy Crumrine are up.
Yep, I refreshed, and that's what's on mine. Fallon is on the left and Troy on the right. |
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Location: Driving, Grooming, or Saddling for a Kid! | Whos the girl in the middle? |
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Location: California | I wear a jock helmet just riding around the ranch because sh*t happens. I don't care what anyone thinks. I know too many people and have seen too many people suffer seizures due to concussions. My husband was a jock, suffered a head injury and still won't wear a helmet. But that's because he's an idiot. |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | Well, I dont care what anybody says, her little horse ran her guts out all week and Fallon rode the hair off her! Love her or hate her nobody can deny that.Her and Lisa put on a heck of a show all week long. I will also tell you we stopped in at a sports bar the other night. They thankfully had the rodeo on. It was so interesting to sit there and listen to the comments in the room. There were quite a few people in there that dont normally watch rodeo but they had been watching the last few days. They got all excited when the barrel race started and went wild cheering for Fallon!! She was exciting to them!! But it was so fun watching the electricity in that room and she made new rodeo fans!
She posted this this morning. ..........
Leaving Las Vegas....what a surreal feeling to capture something you strive for your entire career! Babyflo has been electric...tenacious....gritty....and most of all a true champion. She has come so so far! She was the horse that couldn't handle ground....to the horse that hit too many barrels....to now the world champion that came in as a statistical underdog in adverse conditions to win 2nd in the average to one of the most consistent ladies to ever play the game! Lisa Loc...khart approached me before round 10 in the warm up pen and as a true class act high fived me and said no matter what happens this has been a real blast...we've both already won...now let's go see who carries the buckle home! Well we both were crowned champions and both were presented a buckle on round 10. She with the average championship and me with the world championship. What an incredible feeling to come back
from 15 years off...to a really miserable NFR last year which ended up being where we mustered up everything in us to go home...repaint our tiger...and come back to try with everything in our hearts just to do better. I could've gone home after Babyflo won us the first round lol! Once I accomplished that I felt complete but Babyflo didnt! She wanted more and I could feel it. She made me smile through each and every single run seeing those little ears pinned and her pulling harder with every stride...man was this fun!!! It takes a village to keep me together and on the road. So many people have contributed to my success and it doesn't go unnoticed. Each one of you cheering from home...I heard you...each of you cheering in the stands...thank you! Next run you make however big or small...know that I'm cheering you on too!! Babyflo and I will be taking a little break before we head to the 2015 rodeos and enjoy the holidays with our families and friends! Then...if I know my little mare..she will start the year off tenacious aggressive and like she has something to prove all over again. Know that God places dreams in your heart for a reason....faith is a daily task....and happiness is a pursuit.....never final! Write down your goals...stare at them...believe them....and take action!!!! ?#donepreaching? ?#thislittlelightofmine? ?#thebabyfloshow
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Location: In a happy place | LRQHS - 2014-12-15 11:55 AM CJE - 2014-12-15 11:53 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-12-14 12:38 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-12-15 11:30 AM What I want to know is when is she going to be on top of BHW? She's up there already. I think since last night. Don't think so...
Chitt! I can't find the refresh button on my laptop....I swear this chemo brain is not getting any better. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | sorrel horse ranch - 2014-12-15 1:46 PM LRQHS - 2014-12-15 11:55 AM CJE - 2014-12-15 11:53 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-12-14 12:38 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2014-12-15 11:30 AM What I want to know is when is she going to be on top of BHW? She's up there already. I think since last night. Don't think so...
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Location: British Columbia | rodeomom13 - 2014-12-14 7:20 PM
Here's my deal on Fallon.
Ok, it's admirable that she has overcome such a serious injury and other hardships to become a world champion. Maybe she does deserve it, I'm not one to decide that. But for me it's all about impression. For me the impression is not a good one. She thinks she needs to be all in your face flamboyant, putting herself out there to be noticed. She is throwing herself out there to be noticed by her look, and not her ability. Which is her choice. It is also my choice to not agree with it. I don't know her, I don't know what she's like without the glitz and glam. To me it's better for a Sherry Cervi, Lisa Lockhart, Michele McCleod, and Mary Walker to be a role model. They quietly and humbly kick ass. For me that's what it's all about. Let your actions speak louder than your words and how noticeable you can be. They don't go out and disparage others who criticize them. They don't need to. I lost all respect for Fallon when she made her "couch jockeys that can't get out of the 4D" comments. Then she backtracked and tried to do damage control. Didn't work in my mind. She doesn't know how many "couch jockeys" there are out there who know what they are talking about. One thing I have learned in my many years is you can never know everything and you can always learn from someone. If somebody tells me I am doing something wrong and give me advice to fix it, I will take their advice and try it. Most of the time it works. Sometimes you can be so closed minded that you are only handicapping yourself. There are some things that she could do different, but hey, she's world champ. Who am I to point them out? Just sayin'.
There. That's my two cents.
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| TMEquine - 2014-12-15 3:13 PM
rodeomom13 - 2014-12-14 7:20 PM
Here's my deal on Fallon.
Ok, it's admirable that she has overcome such a serious injury and other hardships to become a world champion. Maybe she does deserve it, I'm not one to decide that. But for me it's all about impression. For me the impression is not a good one. She thinks she needs to be all in your face flamboyant, putting herself out there to be noticed. She is throwing herself out there to be noticed by her look, and not her ability. Which is her choice. It is also my choice to not agree with it. I don't know her, I don't know what she's like without the glitz and glam. To me it's better for a Sherry Cervi, Lisa Lockhart, Michele McCleod, and Mary Walker to be a role model. They quietly and humbly kick ass. For me that's what it's all about. Let your actions speak louder than your words and how noticeable you can be. They don't go out and disparage others who criticize them. They don't need to. I lost all respect for Fallon when she made her "couch jockeys that can't get out of the 4D" comments. Then she backtracked and tried to do damage control. Didn't work in my mind. She doesn't know how many "couch jockeys" there are out there who know what they are talking about. One thing I have learned in my many years is you can never know everything and you can always learn from someone. If somebody tells me I am doing something wrong and give me advice to fix it, I will take their advice and try it. Most of the time it works. Sometimes you can be so closed minded that you are only handicapping yourself. There are some things that she could do different, but hey, she's world champ. Who am I to point them out? Just sayin'.
There. That's my two cents.
I couldn't agree more.....and unfortunatley......all the attention this year was on Fallon Taylor..her outfits.....she totally over shadowed the other contestants. I just don't love her desire to have all the attention on her. The horses.....the other half, and arguably the most important part of each duo...were horribly over looked.......and lets keep one thing mind as everyone argues over wearing helmets....Fallon doesn't wear a helmet.......
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Location: Cyberspace | People People People back to the orginal topic |
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Location: Oklahoma | I'm hoping this isn't too off topic...
Will she get to write a monthly column for BHN like Sherry was doing? This was my first year of getting BHN in about seven years so I'm just curious if the current world champ always writes for the following year. |
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| I guess for me... I've never had business dealings with her, I've never spoke to her, I've never seen her in person... But she just won the world and we can talk as much as smack as we want but no one's gonna touch her excitement and what kinda people are we, if we truly wanna steal someone's happiness?
I like that she wore helmets, shes breaking down some of the negative stigma behind it. I'm sure she made money off it but isn't that what all sponsors do? She just killed two birds with one stone... she addressed an ongoing controversial issue and also gained a sponsor. To me, that's a smart business decision.
I am not a huge Fallon fan nor am I a hater. I loved watching her story about Chuck Taylor and she was the first one I saw with those gypsy tail things. I love bright colors and that is my "style." I own all the color block polos, piles of rainbow colored reins and a few super bright shirts. Now I don't have the designers at my disposal or the cash to spend more but I would if I could.
Maybe that's her style, bright, loud colors just as plaid and blue jeans may be someone else's. Dare to be Different |
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| stayceem - 2014-12-15 4:24 PM
I guess for me... I've never had business dealings with her, I've never spoke to her, I've never seen her in person... But she just won the world and we can talk as much as smack as we want but no one's gonna touch her excitement and what kinda people are we, if we truly wanna steal someone's happiness?
I like that she wore helmets, shes breaking down some of the negative stigma behind it. I'm sure she made money off it but isn't that what all sponsors do? She just killed two birds with one stone... she addressed an ongoing controversial issue and also gained a sponsor. To me, that's a smart business decision.
I am not a huge Fallon fan nor am I a hater. I loved watching her story about Chuck Taylor and she was the first one I saw with those gypsy tail things. I love bright colors and that is my "style." I own all the color block polos, piles of rainbow colored reins and a few super bright shirts. Now I don't have the designers at my disposal or the cash to spend more but I would if I could.
Maybe that's her style, bright, loud colors just as plaid and blue jeans may be someone else's. Dare to be Different
ETA - also all the excitement (good and bad) behind Taylor, didn't change the views I have for the others. I will always be a huge Lisa & Louie fan, Mary & Latte, Kaley and Cowboy, Sherry and Stingray, Christy and Movin fan... I was just as excited to watch them run. I also got a few new favorites like Nancy Hunter! Christine Laughlin (I am sad we didn't see her sorrel again). I cant leave any of them out but I was on the edge of my seat watching all of them. |
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| I really never post on here but I have not seen this video posted on here anywhere and really think it is something people should probably see before speculating about her helmet use. From what I have read/watched in interviews over the NFR this year, I have gleaned that Fallon Taylor was approached by the owners of Slick By Design and asked if she could throw a helmet on for one round just to raise awareness because of AQHA's rule change. She said she tried it on and was basically like, "hey ya, I can do this, totally". It was NOT her intention to keep wearing helmets after that round. In fact she jokingly mentioned in an interview that if you are in Las Vegas and needing a helmet, you basically have to buy it from her because she bought the city out of helmets in an attempt to find helmets to match all her outfits. The helmet she wore for round three was also designed by Glam and Grit ( so for people saying she is disrespecting her sponsors by wearing helmets, they are wrong. Her headgear sponsor endorsed that decision and is apparently going to be designing helmets now along with their hats. Plus she totally rocked the hats when she wasn't running). Then apparently she was approached by a little girl and was asked to wear a helmet again in the next round and so she did. She also decided that after wearing these helmets, it was the best decision for her. She said that she didn't realize that in order to have a hat tight enough to compete in, it was really affecting her as she has screw holes in her head and that was uncomfortable. Plus she has had a major head injury. She said that wearing the helmet is a lot more comfortable and she can see a lot better. She also says in the interview I will attach a link to, that she plans on wearing helmets from now on. In another interview she also mentioned that she is disappointed in herself for not doing this as soon as she had her horrific accident/head injury.
Now, in regards to her outfit use. I am reading a lot of comments of people saying she is an attention hog, she does it for publicity, she does it for money blah blah blah. Has anyone stopped to think that maybe she does it, mostly because she enjoys it and wants to, and just happens to get money and publicity from it?? I personally am a nobody, I do barrel race and do have success with my horses in the higher D's and the lower D's, but at the end of the day, at this point I am really a nobody. But I enjoy dressing up, I enjoy colour coordinating my horses and wearing crazy colours, and putting gypsy tails in their manes and tails. I adore bling and coloured pants and I do it only because I like to do it and I like how it looks. I've been that way my entire life. I'm basically a non-famous, less cool Fallon Taylor in regards to my style. Nobody pays me to do it, I don't do it because I want the attention, I do it simply because that is who I am. I like knowing that at the end of the day, even if my run sucked, I looked good and at least the pictures will turn out lol. In an interview I saw as well, on National Finals Tonight, the one guy on there (he commentated the barrel racing I believe) has been Fallon's friend for years and he said something along the lines of, "I remember you Fallon, as a youngster, you have been this way your whole life. I remember one time at Houston and we went on an amusement ride, and you had your fringe shirt on as you were running right after, and it got all caught up in the ride chains and I had to get you untangled" So that just goes to show that she has been that way her whole life! It is not a publicity stunt or a money grab, it is a personality and a style, that just happens to garner attention and money. You can not blame her for that.
Also, people saying it is selfish and unfair because she outshines and overshadows the others. Well, they could all do the same, they could wear coloured pants, start clothing lines etc, but maybe it isn't their personality or style, and you can't blame them for that either. I think it is selfish of people to say Fallon is being selfish, as she is just being true to herself, and there is nothing more refreshing in this world than someone who is truly being themselves and living their own life.
And lastly, in regards to the debate about how she is sending mixed signals because she only runs in the helmet. Now I do agree with this to an extent, but at the same time, how many of us helmet wearers (yes I am a helmet wearer) actually wear them all the time? Many only put them on to run. Sure it is sending a bit of a mixed signal, but I don't see it as her or anyone that does it being a hypocrite. The danger involved in running barrels is way higher than the danger involved in just riding (even though yes, the danger in that is high too). I do personally think you are being very dumb to get on a young horse EVER without a helmet though, running or not, but that is just my opinion.
Also, there has been some mention of some bad practices in the past, I don't know much about them, don't really care to either, but all I am going to say about that is that people do change and people do grow up! We all have made mistakes and done things in our past we aren't proud of. Also, there are three sides to every story....... yours, the other persons and the truth.
So, I applaud Fallon for all she has done for this sport and the barriers she is willing to break down, and could not be more thrilled that she is our World Champion! (I do though, hope Lisa and Louie can pull it off one day too, she is so deserving as well) Also, all of these things I have stated as coming from Fallon have all been seen in an interview directly from Fallon, not just hear say.
Here are some links to two very good interviews you should all watch before having an opinion, in my opinion lol
Fallon Talks helmet safety and the initiative behind it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5wp69tH9UA
Fallon Taylor on National Finals Tonight, she starts at 19 mins and ends at 40 mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-7nMKoETn0
Edited by IceyBarrels 2014-12-15 4:42 PM
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Location: Kansas | IceyBarrels - 2014-12-15 4:38 PM I really never post on here but I have not seen this video posted on here anywhere and really think it is something people should probably see before speculating about her helmet use. From what I have read/watched in interviews over the NFR this year, I have gleaned that Fallon Taylor was approached by the owners of Slick By Design and asked if she could throw a helmet on for one round just to raise awareness because of AQHA's rule change. \ Other than a statement that was not by AQHA I have seen nothing about the rule change for next year. It is not on AQHA'S website and was not a proposed rule change that passed earlier this year. The only helmet rule change for next year that I have heard of is that all youth riding in English flat classes must wear an approved helmet. This change was annouced over a year ago. Anyone jumping has been required to wear approved helmets for years in AQHA. Seems strange of High Point to ask Fallon to wear a helmet instead of Michelle since she rides for them. If that was the case she should also have been wearing a helmet
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| My 2 cents .. that isn't really worth 2 cents.
Fallon is Fallon. I personally don't like the attire .. but that's me. I'm more conservative as a person. I do recall once at Houston rodeo she wore some silver colored pants when she was younger. So I wasn't surprised to see her return to some wild outfits.
As for the helmet … each to their own.
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| I found that strange as well, about Michelle not wearing it, but I have no idea the circumstances surrounding it other than what came directly out of Fallon's mouth in this interview. I also don't know anything about the rule change. Here is the interview where she says that the owners of Slick By Design asked her to wear it because of the AQHA rule change. I really don't think she'd lie as that would most definitely bite her in the butt.....
Here is the interview where she talks about it. It is the same interview I posted before, but the part about helmets starts at 23:29 to 24:55.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-7nMKoETn0
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Location: Texas | I don't know Fallon. I'm not a fan of Fallon. I was so hoping for Christy and Movin or Sherry and Stingray would win each round.
That being said... What is the big deal if she wears an outfit you don't like? I don't think you hop in your trailer and change every time someone thinks what you are wearing is ugly. You would NEVER be able to please everyone. Some people think how Cervi dresses is "boring" some people thing it is "professional" or "Classy". Even she, in a very basic outfit, is criticized about her clothing by some.
Who cares if she is wearing a helmet for money or safety. It is her choice. Even if she is doing it for sponsors, whether she likes it or not she is breaking down walls for people who want to wear helmets but don't want to be out of place. Or for kids that think they look like idiots with a helmet on, now they have something to say when someone says "Who wears a helmet?". *Ahem* Fallon Taylor the World Champion Barrel Racer in 2014. Have a nice day.
Another thing, she was not the only contestant that was posting pictures of herself on FB telling people to vote for them for best dressed! I saw at least 3 others throwing themselves out there trying to get votes. If we are going to call down one for it we might as well call them all out.
OH! and what does it matter if she "outshines" everyone else. If THEY were really cared as much as you, they would be doing something to get noticed more. Instead they keep doing their own thing with their own style... and that is all Fallon is doing. Every time I have seen a picture or video of her something is Flash, bling, wild, crazy, or out of the norm.
If we are going to talk about her business dealings.. Is she really the only one at the NFR that may or may not have done some shady stuff? What about everything that happened with Latte?
I just know that the more yall gripe and complain about her... I like her even more. She is smart. Get everyone in an uproar over clothes, helmets, hats, or whatever else yall want to complain about. She gets all of the free publicity she can handle. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | IceyBarrels - 2014-12-15 4:38 PM I really never post on here but I have not seen this video posted on here anywhere and really think it is something people should probably see before speculating about her helmet use. From what I have read/watched in interviews over the NFR this year, I have gleaned that Fallon Taylor was approached by the owners of Slick By Design and asked if she could throw a helmet on for one round just to raise awareness because of AQHA's rule change. She said she tried it on and was basically like, "hey ya, I can do this, totally". It was NOT her intention to keep wearing helmets after that round. In fact she jokingly mentioned in an interview that if you are in Las Vegas and needing a helmet, you basically have to buy it from her because she bought the city out of helmets in an attempt to find helmets to match all her outfits. The helmet she wore for round three was also designed by Glam and Grit ( so for people saying she is disrespecting her sponsors by wearing helmets, they are wrong. Her headgear sponsor endorsed that decision and is apparently going to be designing helmets now along with their hats. Plus she totally rocked the hats when she wasn't running ). Then apparently she was approached by a little girl and was asked to wear a helmet again in the next round and so she did. She also decided that after wearing these helmets, it was the best decision for her. She said that she didn't realize that in order to have a hat tight enough to compete in, it was really affecting her as she has screw holes in her head and that was uncomfortable. Plus she has had a major head injury. She said that wearing the helmet is a lot more comfortable and she can see a lot better. She also says in the interview I will attach a link to, that she plans on wearing helmets from now on. In another interview she also mentioned that she is disappointed in herself for not doing this as soon as she had her horrific accident/head injury. Now, in regards to her outfit use. I am reading a lot of comments of people saying she is an attention hog, she does it for publicity, she does it for money blah blah blah. Has anyone stopped to think that maybe she does it, mostly because she enjoys it and wants to, and just happens to get money and publicity from it?? I personally am a nobody, I do barrel race and do have success with my horses in the higher D's and the lower D's, but at the end of the day, at this point I am really a nobody. But I enjoy dressing up, I enjoy colour coordinating my horses and wearing crazy colours, and putting gypsy tails in their manes and tails. I adore bling and coloured pants and I do it only because I like to do it and I like how it looks. I've been that way my entire life. I'm basically a non-famous, less cool Fallon Taylor in regards to my style. Nobody pays me to do it, I don't do it because I want the attention, I do it simply because that is who I am. I like knowing that at the end of the day, even if my run sucked, I looked good and at least the pictures will turn out lol. In an interview I saw as well, on National Finals Tonight, the one guy on there (he commentated the barrel racing I believe ) has been Fallon's friend for years and he said something along the lines of, "I remember you Fallon, as a youngster, you have been this way your whole life. I remember one time at Houston and we went on an amusement ride, and you had your fringe shirt on as you were running right after, and it got all caught up in the ride chains and I had to get you untangled" So that just goes to show that she has been that way her whole life! It is not a publicity stunt or a money grab, it is a personality and a style, that just happens to garner attention and money. You can not blame her for that. Also, people saying it is selfish and unfair because she outshines and overshadows the others. Well, they could all do the same, they could wear coloured pants, start clothing lines etc, but maybe it isn't their personality or style, and you can't blame them for that either. I think it is selfish of people to say Fallon is being selfish, as she is just being true to herself, and there is nothing more refreshing in this world than someone who is truly being themselves and living their own life. And lastly, in regards to the debate about how she is sending mixed signals because she only runs in the helmet. Now I do agree with this to an extent, but at the same time, how many of us helmet wearers (yes I am a helmet wearer ) actually wear them all the time? Many only put them on to run. Sure it is sending a bit of a mixed signal, but I don't see it as her or anyone that does it being a hypocrite. The danger involved in running barrels is way higher than the danger involved in just riding (even though yes, the danger in that is high too ). I do personally think you are being very dumb to get on a young horse EVER without a helmet though, running or not, but that is just my opinion. Also, there has been some mention of some bad practices in the past, I don't know much about them, don't really care to either, but all I am going to say about that is that people do change and people do grow up! We all have made mistakes and done things in our past we aren't proud of. Also, there are three sides to every story....... yours, the other persons and the truth. So, I applaud Fallon for all she has done for this sport and the barriers she is willing to break down, and could not be more thrilled that she is our World Champion! (I do though, hope Lisa and Louie can pull it off one day too, she is so deserving as well ) Also, all of these things I have stated as coming from Fallon have all been seen in an interview directly from Fallon, not just hear say. Here are some links to two very good interviews you should all watch before having an opinion, in my opinion lol Fallon Talks helmet safety and the initiative behind it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5wp69tH9UA Fallon Taylor on National Finals Tonight, she starts at 19 mins and ends at 40 mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-7nMKoETn0
Thank's for those links. I particularly enjoyed the last one at Gold Coast with Donny Gay and Joe Beaver.
And you know, when I see some say it's not fair to the other competitors that it's all about Fallon and they are in the shadows. Wellllll come on! It's not like they dont have the same opportunities! If even one of them would have worn a helmet, even just one night, instant being talked about!! Wear some brighter clothes, win rounds, ect ect. Appearantly Fallon has always been "Flamboyant" and just as they said in that tape,and I saw it first hand in that sports bar. People, spectators LOVE it!! Rodeo needs all the fans..........and they are also right, I fully remimber the gold lame pants and sequins. Go back and look at Martha Josey also. Jeans were NOT allowed...................................... so again....You Go Fallon!! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | pinx05 - 2014-12-15 5:58 PM I don't know Fallon. I'm not a fan of Fallon. I was so hoping for Christy and Movin or Sherry and Stingray would win each round.
That being said... What is the big deal if she wears an outfit you don't like? I don't think you hop in your trailer and change every time someone thinks what you are wearing is ugly. You would NEVER be able to please everyone. Some people think how Cervi dresses is "boring" some people thing it is "professional" or "Classy". Even she, in a very basic outfit, is criticized about her clothing by some.
Who cares if she is wearing a helmet for money or safety. It is her choice. Even if she is doing it for sponsors, whether she likes it or not she is breaking down walls for people who want to wear helmets but don't want to be out of place. Or for kids that think they look like idiots with a helmet on, now they have something to say when someone says "Who wears a helmet?". *Ahem* Fallon Taylor the World Champion Barrel Racer in 2014. Have a nice day.
Another thing, she was not the only contestant that was posting pictures of herself on FB telling people to vote for them for best dressed! I saw at least 3 others throwing themselves out there trying to get votes. If we are going to call down one for it we might as well call them all out.
OH! and what does it matter if she "outshines" everyone else. If THEY were really cared as much as you, they would be doing something to get noticed more. Instead they keep doing their own thing with their own style... and that is all Fallon is doing. Every time I have seen a picture or video of her something is Flash, bling, wild, crazy, or out of the norm.
If we are going to talk about her business dealings.. Is she really the only one at the NFR that may or may not have done some shady stuff? What about everything that happened with Latte?
I just know that the more yall gripe and complain about her... I like her even more. She is smart. Get everyone in an uproar over clothes, helmets, hats, or whatever else yall want to complain about. She gets all of the free publicity she can handle.
Thankyou!! You said everything I was thinking but didnt take the time to type it all out. The Latte deal also isnt the only one,there is also Christi Loflin and Carlee Pierce to. I also agree with you, the more hate I see spewed, the more I like her. I find it all so very very sad and senceless to tear one down thats on the same team. Really? Do women have to keep proving over and over again just how catty and hatefull they really are? |
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Location: Where I am happiest | As far as the AQHA deal I don't know. I do know though that I took my horse to two clinics last summer and the clinician made all those under the age of 18 to wear a helmet. It was mandatory as per her insurance. |
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Location: Tenn. | Here is a screen shot of what ProRodeo.com posted on their FB page on Dec. 7th regarding the AQHA helmet rule change.
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Location: Tenn. | Here is what it says....
"Hey! We got a clarification from the AQHA on the 12th - check it out
From AQHA, we want to congratulate Fallon on her Wrangler NFR success so far. Just to make sure the record is correct, AQHA does not currently require helmets in AQHA speed-event classes (nor is there a rule in the planning stages). We apologize for any confusion caused in the heat of a great winning run. As always, if you have questions about AQHA rules, please feel free to call us at any time.
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The American Quarter Horse Association is changing their rules. Barrel racers 18 years and younger must now wear a helmet while competing. Tonight's #WranglerNFR barrel racing round winner Fallon Taylor has had a head injury in the past. Taylor was not planning on wearing a helmet tonight, but today at an autograph session a little girl brought Fallon her own personal helmet and ask her to wear it. Here's Taylor with that helmet taking a victory lap tonight..."
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Location: Kansas | Thank you for posting the clarification. I thought it strange that it wasn't on the AQHA site and that no one who shows AQHA had even heard about it. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Just for the record. FT wasn't the first barrel racer to run in a Helmet at the NFR.
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Location: Woodstown, NJ | I grew up during a time when no western riders wore helmets. Heck, half the time we didn't even wear shoes! But then we learned. When I had a child and she started riding, I made her wear one. She'd often be the only one at a barrel race with a helmet. But she never resisted. It was normal for her. You put on a bridle. You put on a helmet. However, I still rode without one. I said they were uncomfortable. I said it interfered with my peripheral vision. I even said I couldn't hear with it on! But my hypocrisy nagged at me. So I got myself one. The day I got off my horse and was cooling him off and was getting ready to put him away and go across the street to get the mail and my daughter said, "Mom, you know you still have your helmet on," was the day I had to admit all my excuses were bullcrap. The real reason I didn't like wearing one is because, let's face it, they're dorky looking. Lucky thing I got over my vanity because a couple of years later I fell off my horse, broke my back in two places and my head bounced twice. BOUNCED. And I didn't even get a headache. (I'm still recuperating from the back, a year-and-a-half later.)
And now we see the world champ, Fallon Taylor, not only legitimizing but glamorizing this piece of equipment that will save lives. I'll tell you what, this was one of the best NFRs that I watched and the highlight was waiting for Fallon Taylor to come out. Even people who don't know anything about barrel racing were talking about it. She is good for the industry!
Fallon Taylor is a leader in every way. She dresses for success, she rides like lightning, and she shows that it's okay to break tradition if it means that you're going to protect your head. One day, maybe, my daughter (and I) won't be all alone with our helmets on at a barrel race. And I can't say they are dorky-looking anymore! I can't wait to get one all blinged out and work it like Fallon does! I'm thinking leopard.... |
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| IceyBarrels - 2014-12-15 4:38 PM
I really never post on here but I have not seen this video posted on here anywhere and really think it is something people should probably see before speculating about her helmet use. From what I have read/watched in interviews over the NFR this year, I have gleaned that Fallon Taylor was approached by the owners of Slick By Design and asked if she could throw a helmet on for one round just to raise awareness because of AQHA's rule change. She said she tried it on and was basically like, "hey ya, I can do this, totally". It was NOT her intention to keep wearing helmets after that round. In fact she jokingly mentioned in an interview that if you are in Las Vegas and needing a helmet, you basically have to buy it from her because she bought the city out of helmets in an attempt to find helmets to match all her outfits. The helmet she wore for round three was also designed by Glam and Grit ( so for people saying she is disrespecting her sponsors by wearing helmets, they are wrong. Her headgear sponsor endorsed that decision and is apparently going to be designing helmets now along with their hats. Plus she totally rocked the hats when she wasn't running ). Then apparently she was approached by a little girl and was asked to wear a helmet again in the next round and so she did. She also decided that after wearing these helmets, it was the best decision for her. She said that she didn't realize that in order to have a hat tight enough to compete in, it was really affecting her as she has screw holes in her head and that was uncomfortable. Plus she has had a major head injury. She said that wearing the helmet is a lot more comfortable and she can see a lot better. She also says in the interview I will attach a link to, that she plans on wearing helmets from now on. In another interview she also mentioned that she is disappointed in herself for not doing this as soon as she had her horrific accident/head injury.
Now, in regards to her outfit use. I am reading a lot of comments of people saying she is an attention hog, she does it for publicity, she does it for money blah blah blah. Has anyone stopped to think that maybe she does it, mostly because she enjoys it and wants to, and just happens to get money and publicity from it?? I personally am a nobody, I do barrel race and do have success with my horses in the higher D's and the lower D's, but at the end of the day, at this point I am really a nobody. But I enjoy dressing up, I enjoy colour coordinating my horses and wearing crazy colours, and putting gypsy tails in their manes and tails. I adore bling and coloured pants and I do it only because I like to do it and I like how it looks. I've been that way my entire life. I'm basically a non-famous, less cool Fallon Taylor in regards to my style. Nobody pays me to do it, I don't do it because I want the attention, I do it simply because that is who I am. I like knowing that at the end of the day, even if my run sucked, I looked good and at least the pictures will turn out lol. In an interview I saw as well, on National Finals Tonight, the one guy on there (he commentated the barrel racing I believe ) has been Fallon's friend for years and he said something along the lines of, "I remember you Fallon, as a youngster, you have been this way your whole life. I remember one time at Houston and we went on an amusement ride, and you had your fringe shirt on as you were running right after, and it got all caught up in the ride chains and I had to get you untangled" So that just goes to show that she has been that way her whole life! It is not a publicity stunt or a money grab, it is a personality and a style, that just happens to garner attention and money. You can not blame her for that.
Also, people saying it is selfish and unfair because she outshines and overshadows the others. Well, they could all do the same, they could wear coloured pants, start clothing lines etc, but maybe it isn't their personality or style, and you can't blame them for that either. I think it is selfish of people to say Fallon is being selfish, as she is just being true to herself, and there is nothing more refreshing in this world than someone who is truly being themselves and living their own life.
And lastly, in regards to the debate about how she is sending mixed signals because she only runs in the helmet. Now I do agree with this to an extent, but at the same time, how many of us helmet wearers (yes I am a helmet wearer ) actually wear them all the time? Many only put them on to run. Sure it is sending a bit of a mixed signal, but I don't see it as her or anyone that does it being a hypocrite. The danger involved in running barrels is way higher than the danger involved in just riding (even though yes, the danger in that is high too ). I do personally think you are being very dumb to get on a young horse EVER without a helmet though, running or not, but that is just my opinion.
Also, there has been some mention of some bad practices in the past, I don't know much about them, don't really care to either, but all I am going to say about that is that people do change and people do grow up! We all have made mistakes and done things in our past we aren't proud of. Also, there are three sides to every story....... yours, the other persons and the truth.
So, I applaud Fallon for all she has done for this sport and the barriers she is willing to break down, and could not be more thrilled that she is our World Champion! (I do though, hope Lisa and Louie can pull it off one day too, she is so deserving as well ) Also, all of these things I have stated as coming from Fallon have all been seen in an interview directly from Fallon, not just hear say.
Here are some links to two very good interviews you should all watch before having an opinion, in my opinion lol
Fallon Talks helmet safety and the initiative behind it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5wp69tH9UA
Fallon Taylor on National Finals Tonight, she starts at 19 mins and ends at 40 mins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-7nMKoETn0
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Location: the end of the rainbow | one of FT's sponsors is Ranch Dress'n. Just saw one of their t-shirts that says "stay back, my horse kicks haters". Made me giggle. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | willrodeo4food - 2014-12-16 11:48 AM one of FT's sponsors is Ranch Dress'n. Just saw one of their t-shirts that says "stay back, my horse kicks haters". Made me giggle.
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Location: Florida | Her outfits don't bother me either. Back in the 80's lots of us dressed up like that. I especially liked anything shiney. |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | ThreeCorners - 2014-12-16 10:39 AM willrodeo4food - 2014-12-16 11:48 AM one of FT's sponsors is Ranch Dress'n. Just saw one of their t-shirts that says "stay back, my horse kicks haters". Made me giggle. Actually I think Ranch Dress'n is Fallon's store.
Oops. Guess I made it obvious that I don't know much about the lady or her clothes. But that t-shirt still made me giggle. |
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | This thread makes me want to put my helmet on and run around our front yard naked while holding fringe and streamers in my hand. I'm tired of my neighbors not paying attention to me. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Nevertooold - 2014-12-16 4:20 PM
This thread makes me want to put my helmet on and run around our front yard naked while holding fringe and streamers in my hand. I'm tired of my neighbors not paying attention to me.
I could do that and still not get any attention since you can't see our place from the road...which was a Very Good Thing when I got fireants in my pants and up my shirt while reading the water meter. |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | Nevertooold - 2014-12-16 4:20 PM
This thread makes me want to put my helmet on and run around our front yard naked while holding fringe and streamers in my hand. I'm tired of my neighbors not paying attention to me.
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Location: Tom, Oklahoma | When I was a kid and my dad was rodoing in the 60's barrel racers sparkled! Even their pants sparkled! lol I'm like a crow, I am drawn to shiney things! Loved her wild cloths! |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I have a pair of Silver lame that are screaming to get back out of the closet..only problem is I think one thigh would now fit in them :-( Guess I better get back on my exercise program, LOL!!!  |
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Location: Tom, Oklahoma | run n rate - 2014-12-17 12:32 PM I have a pair of Silver lame that are screaming to get back out of the closet..only problem is I think one thigh would now fit in them :- ( Guess I better get back on my exercise program, LOL!!!
LOL looks like we are gonna have to have some more made to fit our "age". lol |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | YeeHaw - 2014-12-18 11:34 AM
run n rate - 2014-12-17 12:32 PM I have a pair of Silver lame that are screaming to get back out of the closet..only problem is I think one thigh would now fit in them :- ( Guess I better get back on my exercise program, LOL!!!
I'm not sure there is THAT much silver lame available anymore, LOL!!! And I'm almost thankful for that, LOL!!! Maybe I'll just paint something on a paint leg silver and call it good... |
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Location: Tom, Oklahoma | run n rate - 2014-12-17 12:39 PM YeeHaw - 2014-12-18 11:34 AM run n rate - 2014-12-17 12:32 PM I have a pair of Silver lame that are screaming to get back out of the closet..only problem is I think one thigh would now fit in them :- ( Guess I better get back on my exercise program, LOL!!! I'm not sure there is THAT much silver lame available anymore, LOL!!! And I'm almost thankful for that, LOL!!! Maybe I'll just paint something on a paint leg silver and call it good...
If I remember correctly, Lame' is stretchy. I'm thinking I might like it...lol...... |
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Location: Aubrey, Texas | Lame' is stretchy, but it itches so you have to wear your pajamas under it. Ask me how I know. . . .
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Location: 31 lengths farms | So maybe mine weren't lame, LOL!!! Cause they weren't stretchy but those suckers were shiney and SLICK!!! As me how I know,  #firstbarrelproblems#almostlawndart |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Turn your rig around and go get em!!! You're gonna be Fabulous!!!
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| stayceem - 2014-12-17 4:48 PM
I remember in the 90s, the louder the clothes the cooler you were. I had purple, orange, mustard yellow, even ones with stripes back in the day! My shirts were like jigsaw puzzles or like a rainbow puked on me. Then came the fringe and I had some crazy silver and hot pink sequins fringe! And people loved it!!!! Except my horse who thought I was a monster.
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I have a pair of black lame pants that I just kept for what ever reason I'm not certain. They were very pricey back in the day.. |
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Location: your guess is as good as mine | Nevertooold - 2014-12-17 4:16 PM I have a pair of black lame pants that I just kept for what ever reason I'm not certain. They were very pricey back in the day.. Well if you've got the pants I've got the vests to go with them lol... 
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I have a black sequined vest...I can see we were both styling back in the day..LOL |
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