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| So I have a 2 year old filly that i bought as a weanling. I havent started her yet cause shes a late bloomer and I'm healing up a wound on her hip.
anyhow since her long yearling year her front legs are some kinda crooked. Pigeon toed and her Left front is a little more turned in than the other, so much she travels on her hoof wall.
her knees are straight. and soundness wise it has not bothered her
shes a beautiful little filly other than that.
the breeder has offered me a trade for a yearling by the same sire (mr.jess perry/okie dokie dale) and out of a givemealickin mare
shes a nice filly, has straight legs for one, but not as thick as my filly. shes going to be a tall lean mare.
my filly is by the same stud, and out of a daughter of peppy san badger, and going back to two eyed twister.
my total concern is how will she stand up with her legs down the road. and will need to be watched with her feet
so would you guys risk it and keep her, or would you trade for the other filly?!
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Location: Kansas | I had a mare with a crooked right front leg.........never once affected her soundness, or the way she ran. She was wicked, and would really slide along side the barrels.
I'd give the filly a chance, but thats my opinion |
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Location: NC | I think I would play it safe and trade for the straight legged filly. It is already hard to keep a barrel horse sound without starting off with crookedness.... |
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Location: Florida.. | proper farrier work should be fine.. |
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| I'm never afraid of a pigeon toe horse or a winged out horse, as long as your farrier understands the proper way to handle it. Do not try to straighten the hoof out. If she is sound I would keep her if you liked her more. Here is a great video that I have watched several times. (the bottom clip) http://www.hoofcaretoday.com/episode-7.html |
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| my farrier is good! and trims her just nice, but by the 5 week mark the inside of the foot wings out, and she wears the outside right down.
this summer she did strain her tendons in that leg. I think she was ripping around and tripped and the outside of her leg was right swollen up to her knee. I wrapped and cold hosed it. and it was fine after a couple weeks
my brothers good calf horse was wickedly pigeon toed, and it never bothered her. unfortunately we had to put her down this summer for bad stifles from her cutting days. |
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Location: Kansas | zansbeunogal_2268 - 2014-12-17 10:10 AM my farrier is good! and trims her just nice, but by the 5 week mark the inside of the foot wings out, and she wears the outside right down. this summer she did strain her tendons in that leg. I think she was ripping around and tripped and the outside of her leg was right swollen up to her knee. I wrapped and cold hosed it. and it was fine after a couple weeks my brothers good calf horse was wickedly pigeon toed, and it never bothered her. unfortunately we had to put her down this summer for bad stifles from her cutting days.
my mare wore her hoof down the same way, I had an excellent corrective shoer who trimmed her just nicely....she never required shoes. |
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| zansbeunogal_2268 - 2014-12-17 10:10 AM
my farrier is good! and trims her just nice, but by the 5 week mark the inside of the foot wings out, and she wears the outside right down.
this summer she did strain her tendons in that leg. I think she was ripping around and tripped and the outside of her leg was right swollen up to her knee. I wrapped and cold hosed it. and it was fine after a couple weeks
my brothers good calf horse was wickedly pigeon toed, and it never bothered her. unfortunately we had to put her down this summer for bad stifles from her cutting days.
Watch the video I posted it explains why... |
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| Maybe trim at 4 weeks instead of 5/6. I had a club footed horse who was shod at 4 weeks per my horseshoer's advice. After I no longer used him, kept him trimmed every 4 weeks. |
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Location: ND | If you have the option to trade into the straight legged one I probably would especially if this one has strained her tendons just being a horse in the pasture already. Not the best sign of her holding up to running barrels & having a carear. Being pigeon toed doesn't really bother me but they do require more maintenance & should be trimmed, or at least have their feet rasped every few weeks to keep them balanced instead of trimming on a "normal" schedule. I've had a couple who where fairly pigeon toed & never had a problem with them but I'm obsessive about how they are trimmed. |
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| FlyingJT - 2014-12-17 10:17 AM
zansbeunogal_2268 - 2014-12-17 10:10 AM
my farrier is good! and trims her just nice, but by the 5 week mark the inside of the foot wings out, and she wears the outside right down.
this summer she did strain her tendons in that leg. I think she was ripping around and tripped and the outside of her leg was right swollen up to her knee. I wrapped and cold hosed it. and it was fine after a couple weeks
my brothers good calf horse was wickedly pigeon toed, and it never bothered her. unfortunately we had to put her down this summer for bad stifles from her cutting days.
Watch the video I posted it explains why...
I loved the video! super informative! Thank you:) |
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| zansbeunogal_2268 - 2014-12-17 10:54 AM
I'm getting a picture of the 2 yr old and her legs.
but these are the fillies i can choose from to trade. old pictures from the summer
You cannot post pictures of horses you don't own and are looking at attaining |
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Location: Kansas | I personally like both the fillies!!! LMAO |
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Location: Texas | I've never had a problem with crooked legs or pigeon toes. |
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| here are her front legs
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Location: Deep South | There's no question for me, I would trade for the straight legged filly. There's just no way to tell at this point how much maintenance the crooked filly will need or how well she will hold up, and it doesn't look god if she's already having tendon issues.
Plus, even if it never causes her any problems, but somewhere down the road you're in a position where you need to sell, you will have a much more difficult time selling the crooked legged filly. |
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| BamaCanChaser - 2014-12-17 2:42 PM
There's no question for me, I would trade for the straight legged filly. There's just no way to tell at this point how much maintenance the crooked filly will need or how well she will hold up, and it doesn't look god if she's already having tendon issues.
Plus, even if it never causes her any problems, but somewhere down the road you're in a position where you need to sell, you will have a much more difficult time selling the crooked legged filly.
My thoughts exactly....and how lucky you are that he's willing to trade with you. It would be a no brainer for me to trade for the straight legged filly. |
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Location: Southern Oregon | Those aren't bad at all. One of my barrel mares had some jacked up front legs. She ran hard, turned great and placed well. Maintaince was no more then the others because I stayed on top of it. My filly now is pigeon toed as all get up! Some days I walk out and think, "man......what was I thinking," then I put a saddle on her and WOW. That mare is catty. She is a BIG mare and she turns like she is a little cutting horse. |
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| I would probably trade unless there was some attachment to the dam where the risk felt justified. I know many pigeon toed horses who turn out just fine but need some type of corrective shoeing. My gelding had contracted ligaments and hes shod every 4 weeks. |
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Location: on my horse | I'm with SaraJean. Trade because if she's already had tendon issues, isn't broke, and is crooked I'd trade all day long for the straight legged horse. |
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| Ya i'm gonna take the trade!
the only attachment i have to the mare is I love the breeding. But I also know where the mare is, and is pregnant this year to there shazoom stud.
The filly i'm trading for is a daughter of givemealickn by dash for cash. and will be coming two, so i can get a better start on her than this one!
and by this stud http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/red+jess+flying
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