jake16 - 2014-12-23 2:05 AM

MY ADVICE TO YOU WOULD BE USE THE MONEY YOU ARE BUYING THE FILLY WITH FOR FIXING THE TEETH on your other mare. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU GET IN OVER YOUR HEAD WITH AFFORDING PROPER CARE AND FEED TO THE HORSES YOU ALREADY HAVE. Take care of the ones you have PROPERLY FIRST ....

Bibliafarm - 2014-12-23 7:14 AM


  I agree .I stayed off this thread for fear I'd be to harsh but since you mentioned it I'll agree.Your other filly just died due to medical and then you can't afford teeth care right now for a mare and shes losing weight . I'll leave it at that and I did read your other threads even though you remove or edit .so before coming back with another story realize that..

jake16 - 2014-12-23 1:05 AM MY ADVICE TO YOU WOULD BE USE THE MONEY YOU ARE BUYING THE FILLY WITH FOR FIXING THE TEETH on your other mare. YOU SOUND LIKE YOU GET IN OVER YOUR HEAD WITH AFFORDING PROPER CARE AND FEED TO THE HORSES YOU ALREADY HAVE. Take care of the ones you have PROPERLY FIRST ....

RoaniePonie11 - 2014-12-23 7:47 AM


I'm taking all if my mares in feb to have all of their annual stuff done. Everyone will get everything then. I am trying to do it all in 1 whack since I have 4 horses going for annuals. My horses are absolutely not mistreated. This mare, in the condition you are talking about, is still about 200lbs bigger than she was when I got her. I was pretty proud of how far she came. She also had her feet taken care of and wormed and shots for the first time in years. And just for info's sake when I put her blanket on her this morning it was much tighter than it was lol.

I don't feed I have to explain myself to you guys. Thank you for saying my lack of care killed my colic mare. That's rich. Just because I don't do it your way doesn't mean I do it wrong. I feel as though you are a very knowledgable horse person but you are rude. I understand what you are saying about the mares teeth. You don't know the entire situation or my thought process and I am not obligated to explain it to you. It's funny how everyone jumped on the she's terrible for not having the teeth done band wagon not knowing or not caring to know that's my plan anyways.

This thread is not about that mare. If you want to talk about that mare, do it in that thread. I would like to stay on topic.

RoaniePonie11 - 2014-12-23 7:47 AM I'm taking all if my mares in feb to have all of their annual stuff done. Everyone will get everything then. I am trying to do it all in 1 whack since I have 4 horses going for annuals. My horses are absolutely not mistreated. This mare, in the condition you are talking about, is still about 200lbs bigger than she was when I got her. I was pretty proud of how far she came. She also had her feet taken care of and wormed and shots for the first time in years. And just for info's sake when I put her blanket on her this morning it was much tighter than it was lol. I don't feed I have to explain myself to you guys. Thank you for saying my lack of care killed my colic mare. That's rich. Just because I don't do it your way doesn't mean I do it wrong. I feel as though you are a very knowledgable horse person but you are rude. I understand what you are saying about the mares teeth. You don't know the entire situation or my thought process and I am not obligated to explain it to you. It's funny how everyone jumped on the she's terrible for not having the teeth done band wagon not knowing or not caring to know that's my plan anyways. This thread is not about that mare. If you want to talk about that mare, do it in that thread. I would like to stay on topic.

RoaniePonie11 - 2014-12-23 8:15 AM Ok how's this, I'll bring her to work with me tomorrow and have her teeth done while I'm here. Can that be the end of getting reamed over a broodmares teeth and waiting a month? Please...? I really just wanted input on the filly but since the broodmare has been brought up that's not going to happen from anyone because everyone will want to tell me how terrible I am over the teeth. Thank you.

RoaniePonie11 - 2014-12-23 9:15 AM Ok how's this, I'll bring her to work with me tomorrow and have her teeth done while I'm here. Can that be the end of getting reamed over a broodmares teeth and waiting a month? Please...? I really just wanted input on the filly but since the broodmare has been brought up that's not going to happen from anyone because everyone will want to tell me how terrible I am over the teeth. Thank you.

NJJ - 2014-12-23 8:34 AM I wasn't going to post but you seem to think that everyone is "picking" on you.....here's the deal.....They feel, that at THIS time, you certainly don't need the expense of another horse. You admitedly are feeding "cheap" feed, certainly have a large vet bill and WAS going to put off the basic care for the horse that you already have. There is NO need for you to get defensive. People are only taking what YOU post and forming their opinion.....And I have to agree. When you try to stretch your dollars too far.....the animals are the ones who suffer.......... 

mruggles - 2014-12-23 8:56 AM its not cheap to feed a baby.......





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CYA Ranch - 2014-12-23 9:13 AM ditto.....there's nothing cheap about raising a baby if you do it right.  If you aren't going to do it right don't do it at all.  

Three 4 Luck - 2014-12-24 8:26 AM  Plus babies are good at trying to kill or cripple themselves and succeed too often.

Red Raider - 2014-12-23 9:22 AM I really wanted to stay off of this one but here I am -- making this post and somewhere out there I have about 3 friends who would be laughing their butts off because I'm going to give you the advice that I myself hated hearing about 5 years ago.  



Over the past month or so, I've seen you post about supplements and feeding and conditioning problems on a few of your horses.  I've also seen you really excited about your plans to breed two of those mares this spring and have babies hit the ground next year.  All of that is great -- everybody can use advice and it's good that you are looking at fixing problems before you have babies hitting the ground because that's a big game changer too in terms of money, time and impact on your horse's health. 



A few years ago I was kind of in your position.  I had a few horses and had plans to breed one of my mares (which I did) and wanted to have another baby the year after.  My good friends sat me down and basically told me to slow things down with my horses.  They knew how much I was working in my job and how much work I already had ahead of me with 5 horses at the time.  I told them that I was single, had a section of land to run the beasties on and could handle anything money-wise because I'm an attorney and can make some money if I really needed to.  They kept on me and I finally agreed to shelve my plans for a few more babies and young ones in my line-up.  



I'm now about 5 years out from that time and I'm sooooo glad that I didn't go ahead with my plans for all those young ones.  I basically had to make a decision on whether or not I was going to have one good horse -- one that I spent all my time with, trained and really put 100% into -- or have 5 horses that got 20% of my effort because there really is only so much time that you do get to spend with them when they are older. 



My Number One man now takes up most of my time.  Meanwhile, I basically had to take in 2 others I never planned on owning but did when a friend passed away unexpectedly and now I have 6 out in the pasture.  You never know where life is going to take you. 



My advice is to honestly ask yourself if this filly is better than the two babies you are planning on having in the Spring and if not, please don't buy her.  Save your time, money and effort into having the best 1-2 horses you can possibly have.  You only end up with so much to give and every horse deserves the best shot from their owners.  Same goes for evaluating the horses you have right now -- is this filly going to take away from the ones already depending on you?  If so, evalute what's best for the horses including your future prospects.   

 

Red Raider - 2014-12-23 9:22 AM

I really wanted to stay off of this one but here I am -- making this post and somewhere out there I have about 3 friends who would be laughing their butts off because I'm going to give you the advice that I myself hated hearing about 5 years ago.  

Over the past month or so, I've seen you post about supplements and feeding and conditioning problems on a few of your horses.  I've also seen you really excited about your plans to breed two of those mares this spring and have babies hit the ground next year.  All of that is great -- everybody can use advice and it's good that you are looking at fixing problems before you have babies hitting the ground because that's a big game changer too in terms of money, time and impact on your horse's health. 

A few years ago I was kind of in your position.  I had a few horses and had plans to breed one of my mares (which I did) and wanted to have another baby the year after.  My good friends sat me down and basically told me to slow things down with my horses.  They knew how much I was working in my job and how much work I already had ahead of me with 5 horses at the time.  I told them that I was single, had a section of land to run the beasties on and could handle anything money-wise because I'm an attorney and can make some money if I really needed to.  They kept on me and I finally agreed to shelve my plans for a few more babies and young ones in my line-up.  

I'm now about 5 years out from that time and I'm sooooo glad that I didn't go ahead with my plans for all those young ones.  I basically had to make a decision on whether or not I was going to have one good horse -- one that I spent all my time with, trained and really put 100% into -- or have 5 horses that got 20% of my effort because there really is only so much time that you do get to spend with them when they are older. 

My Number One man now takes up most of my time.  Meanwhile, I basically had to take in 2 others I never planned on owning but did when a friend passed away unexpectedly and now I have 6 out in the pasture.  You never know where life is going to take you. 

My advice is to honestly ask yourself if this filly is better than the two babies you are planning on having in the Spring and if not, please don't buy her.  Save your time, money and effort into having the best 1-2 horses you can possibly have.  You only end up with so much to give and every horse deserves the best shot from their owners.  Same goes for evaluating the horses you have right now -- is this filly going to take away from the ones already depending on you?  If so, evalute what's best for the horses including your future prospects.   
 

mruggles - 2014-12-23 9:29 AM aint that the truth................one of mine wasn't even a week old and had a 800 vet bill



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Three 4 Luck - 2014-12-23 10:26 AM  Plus babies are good at trying to kill or cripple themselves and succeed too often.

bennie1 - 2014-12-23 9:42 AM


Really love this post.

mruggles - 2014-12-23 11:38 AM or this.........



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RoaniePonie11 - 2014-12-23 10:29 AM  Do I have the time to put into all of the horses like they deserve? At the moment I have 1 horse that rides, the other 3 are broodies. I did not originally plan to be stuck with 3 broodies but here I am. My plan was 2. Keep one, sell one. Then someone got in a bin with one that I thought was nice and now I have 3... I am pouring myself into my 1 (the original) that I am legging up from being off half a year. She is eating it up. She is tired of me already lol. I do want something to give my time to so I can give her enough attention, not clobber her or go to fast to soon legging her up. BUT next year I will be stupid busy with new foals. Than you for your words and your story. It means a ton

Red Raider - 2014-12-23 11:40 AM You're welcome.  Like I said, at times we've probably all been in this situation. 



The thing is to realize that you are making the decision on where your time is going to go now -- and in the future too.  Yes, I understand having time now when you only have one legged up and are waiting on others to get here.  That was me 5 years ago.  I didn't realize at that time what my friends were trying to say is that my decisions weren't just about the time I have now but the time I would also have in the years to come. 



The extra time I had when Ren was a weanling was my focus and why I wanted some other horse to work with.  I could only work with him maybe 10-30 minutes at the most on hard training and the rest was just brushing and messing with him.  I thought I could get another and have that horse to work with after I messed with Ren.  No problem.  



The thing is, after putting that time into Ren and the other horse, I didn't want to let either one of them go.  Same for the other 3 I had at the time.  Now, 5 years later, I have too many horses and not enough time for them all.  I'm shortchanging two of them right now as I post this because I don't have enough time for them. 



That extra time I had when Ren was young is now completely gone.  I made decisions long ago when I wasn't focused on the right things.  I didn't realize part of the responsibility when you have young ones is that you must leave room for time and resources when they get older.  It's part of the trade off when you say yes to either buying or raising a weanling.  You make the trade off then -- not in the future.  



I think what maybe I and your mom are trying to say is that you have a big decision right now.  Either you chose to have this filly or those 3 broodmares because you won't have time and resources for all of them.  Either you are someone who buys already on the ground or you commit to being a breeder.  I can also say if you chose the breeder path, you must also make a decision on whether or not you sell those babies or the broodmares because it's the same thing.  There is a limit on time and resources.  The choice you make today isn't just about right now but years down the line.  It's the trade off that you don't realize until you are further along the road.    

Three 4 Luck - 2014-12-23 8:26 AM  Plus babies are good at trying to kill or cripple themselves and succeed too often.