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| Fiance said he'd buy me a breeding for Christmas. I want one little baby out of her. I don't plan on selling it. Just a nice little colt. :D just looking for some other opinons thanks.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I'm getting a new mare with Doc Bar lines to breed to El Scorcho. I like seeing the Clabber II and Three Bars on your mares pedigree. Scorcho has them, also, and I like to add extra doses of great horses like that.
What would you try to improve in your mare? I like Honours A Bounding for another dose of Lightning Bar. I really like PC Lock n Frost having seen him in person. Blazin Jet O'lena is a pretty nice producer.
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| I love Blazin Jetolena but I'm afraid him and Streak of Fling are going to be out of budget
shes built like a tank. Short 14.1 which doesn't bother me. Shes a little long too. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | shubug007 - 2014-12-26 1:10 PM I love Blazin Jetolena but I'm afraid him and Streak of Fling are going to be out of budget shes built like a tank. Short 14.1 which doesn't bother me. Shes a little long too.
Well, if she's short, I'd stay away from Blazin Jet O'lena. |
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Location: Texas | shubug007 - 2014-12-26 1:10 PM
I love Blazin Jetolena but I'm afraid him and Streak of Fling are going to be out of budget
shes built like a tank. Short 14.1 which doesn't bother me. Shes a little long too.
They're both booked full for 2015 anyway..at least BJO for sure, but I heard that about ASOF. could be wrong though!
ASOF has some nice sons standing that are cheaper.. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | What do you want to improve about her? What is the budget? |
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| I'm not sure about the budget really. I imagine he's not going to go over the top. I'd think more around the 1000 range give or take. I like her the way she is really. not much I would improve on her. She's easy to please. Doesn't get bothered and just about anyone can hop on her. She's no racehorse. I would like a little more speed. I love CS flashlight and Ima Firefighter. ALso Lions share of fame. I kind of want to stay away from Frenchman's Guy. Not that anything is wrong with them by any means. Just a personal preference deal.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | shubug007 - 2014-12-26 1:31 PM I'm not sure about the budget really. I imagine he's not going to go over the top. I'd think more around the 1000 range give or take. I like her the way she is really. not much I would improve on her. She's easy to please. Doesn't get bothered and just about anyone can hop on her. She's no racehorse. I would like a little more speed. I love CS flashlight and Ima Firefighter. ALso Lions share of fame. I kind of want to stay away from Frenchman's Guy. Not that anything is wrong with them by any means. Just a personal preference deal.
Of those, I like LSOF the best. |
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| I'm kind of apprehensive about breeding to a pally. When I do the color calculator I get a chance of a perlino. They're growing on me but I'm on the fence
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| Are you prepared to pay for shipping and AI costs? Or are you wanting live cover, is this a maiden mare (sometimes aged maiden mares are harder to get in foal never looked on the age of yours), also do you have a good repo vet who has great success with frozen.
I would try to put as much run into the horse as possible, I would lean toward DTF stallions, FWF (depending on bottom side, might not give enough run), FG stallions (again depending on bottom side might not give enough run). MJP, MSM prodigy are also ones I would consider.
I heard cs flashlight semen is not viable for a long time, not sure if this has changed in the past few years, this would be one question I would be asking.
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| shubug007 - 2014-12-26 2:14 PM
I'm kind of apprehensive about breeding to a pally. When I do the color calculator I get a chance of a perlino. They're growing on me but I'm on the fence
You shouldn't have a chance of a perlino with breeding her to a pally, she is grey but have you had her color tested? If she carries a dilute gene then you have a chance for a perlino otherwise you don't. Perlino and cremellos are double dilutes, palominos and buckskins are single dilutes. Might be worth getting her tested to see what she really is, UC Davis is great to use. |
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| She's 11 and this would be first foal. I have a vet I'm confidant in. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Here's some speed sires that are in an auction. Some are at great prices.
http://lqhbastallionauction.com/
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | You might try the Triple Crown 100 or another Stallion Service Auction too - if on a budget sometimes you can get a more expensive breeding for less on those.. I love Imafirefighter - a friend has 2 foals out of him both are awesome.. her mare was smaller too - and they threw nice size 14.2 ish now sized 2 adn 3 yr olds.. both have great minds.. no buck and fast learners.. I would also suggest Dashin Dynamo - he'd cross nice with your mare - has a shorter back that'd compliment your mare and a little more size and he is race bred so he'll add that speed - he probably has a breeding on Triple crown up for bid as well as a few others I know they keep up with those Auctions for their stallions.. your mare is nicely built - and has a great hip so she'd cross nice with most! I crossed a grey mare with a Palomino stud and got a Palomino - that mare also threw 2 black which turned grey foals out of a palomino stud (same one)... soo perlino is probably rare but there is always that chance... love me some grey mares!! Good luck you'll have to let us know what you cross her with... mine are all being bred to Dashin Dynamo and Shawne Bug Leo this year (personal pref's for the mares I'm breeding this year)... there are a ton of great stallions out there - if you are looking to keep them resell isn't such a big deal you can pick what fits you.. but if you plan to sell them I'd be looking at some marketable stallions where the stallion owners are doing a lot of the marketing for you - saves you the trouble! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | barrelracr131 - 2014-12-26 2:32 PM John Fame!
Ditto this! Good size, super nice minded, talented, great pedigree and cant beat his price. |
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| I love this guy lol http://stallionesearch.com/show_stallion.asp?horse=1237 |
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Location: So. California | What state are you in? I would go with something local. Nice looking mare!
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Location: Smack in the middle of WA! | I love my CS Flashlight baby! Fulton's were awesome to work with but I think he is going to the James ranch. Didn't have a problem with semen. I did have to do two shipments as my mare had an infection and we did antibiotics but not enough the first time. She took the 2nd shipment no problem! My colt is so easy going and quiet! The other 2 studs I like are LSOF and Firewater Dragon! Firewater Dragon was at the nbha super show in Vegas a few years ago and he is gorgeous in person! Good luck in your search! I love raising foals! Also the Valley Girls have their annual stallion auction next month and there are a lot of nice studs enrolled in it!
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Location: TX | Try the Triple Crown Stallion Auction that's going right now on horseauctions.com. There are some AMAZING Deals on top notch stallions. |
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| All I do know for certain is that this is a lot to think about sheesh. So many possibilities lol! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Stoli My Heart is another one. He is a beautiful horse who ran AAA. His first colts are just starting to hit the arena and they are really nice! I know a couple people with colts by him and they all rave about the minds on them.He is in alot of incentive programs and they are running a special right now. This is a NICE horse! https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1016760788339401&set=a.264922180189936.87603.100000164679719&type=1&theater
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Location: Where I am happiest | Here is the link to John Fame. http://www.johnfame.com/john-fame-1.html |
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| Stoli with a heart looks like he has some nicebabies
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| Firewater canyon is an interesting cross. Not sure what he is priced at though |
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Location: Where I am happiest | shubug007 - 2014-12-30 9:08 PM
any stallion auctions going on right now?
Valley Girls starts jan 2. www.vgbra.org. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | ThreeCorners - 2014-12-31 7:41 AM shubug007 - 2014-12-30 9:08 PM any stallion auctions going on right now? Valley Girls starts jan 2. www.vgbra.org.
Actually, just go to www.horseauctions.com Valley Girls is on there which starts jan. 2 and Triple Crown 100 is on there and it's going on now. There is a few others on there as well. |
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| I have several I like. I don't really want FG. I'm jus looking and looking. I don't want to break the bank on. Stud fee either. But don't want to breed to just anything. I love FWF, I'm loving ASOF along with several others. Lol |
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Location: Kentucky | ThreeCorners - 2014-12-26 6:01 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-12-26 2:32 PM John Fame! Ditto this! Good size, super nice minded, talented, great pedigree and cant beat his price.
Another vote for John Fame. He is good looking and has some super nice colts that are doing well in futurities. |
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You and I think alike :)
I am breeding my mare this year to SMH. If that wasn't lined up, she would be going to John Fame. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Murphy - 2014-12-31 11:44 AM You and I think alike :)
I am breeding my mare this year to SMH. If that wasn't lined up, she would be going to John Fame.
Help me out here....SMH? I'm sure it's obvious lol. |
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Location: Back in MT BABY!!! | Where are you located? Like others said with it being her first time being bred I would lean more towards a stud that is within driving distance. I also would go with an all speed stud for your mare vs a "barrel bred" I like Holy Bart. |
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Location: Kentucky | LRQHS - 2014-12-31 12:47 PM Murphy - 2014-12-31 11:44 AM You and I think alike :)
I am breeding my mare this year to SMH. If that wasn't lined up, she would be going to John Fame.
Stoli My Heart! Too many abbreviations!! |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Murphy - 2014-12-31 11:48 AM LRQHS - 2014-12-31 12:47 PM Murphy - 2014-12-31 11:44 AM You and I think alike :)
I am breeding my mare this year to SMH. If that wasn't lined up, she would be going to John Fame.
Oh yeah, duhhhh me. Thanks :) |
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| I dont want to discount John Fame, because I'm sure he is nice. But...of all the DTF sons out there there are several that would bring a much better priced foal. If you were comparing a John Fame to a Eddie Stinson or Woodbridge or Firewater to fame who would you choose?
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Location: Back in MT BABY!!! | Hmmm...Missouri
Darrell Henry has some nice studs usually. I know he still has frozen semen from Dashing Val and La Jollas Gold....both studs are all run and are in state. They also should be able to recommend vets with knowledge of working with frozen semen. |
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Location: Kentucky | Whiteboy - 2014-12-31 12:54 PM I dont want to discount John Fame, because I'm sure he is nice. But...of all the DTF sons out there there are several that would bring a much better priced foal. If you were comparing a John Fame to a Eddie Stinson or Woodbridge or Firewater to fame who would you choose?
I think it depends on your budget too. Eddie is $3500, Woodbridge is $2500. John Fame is $750 this year. |
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| I think there is a full brother to woodbridge that is about $1000 that ran out about $50K. I think his name is Conn Creek, there is an ad for him in the new BHN. Either way I think there are better options. |
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| I like your bay studs pedigree. Looks like a nice cross.
I like the idea of a more compact stud to try to level out my mares length. For 14.1 she's long. Talked with a vet today and he recommended to put lights on her now. He also recommended a few or mare baby but it's still so cold out then. |
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Location: Back in MT BABY!!! | shubug007 - 2014-12-31 11:28 AM I like your bay studs pedigree. Looks like a nice cross. I like the idea of a more compact stud to try to level out my mares length. For 14.1 she's long. Talked with a vet today and he recommended to put lights on her now. He also recommended a few or mare baby but it's still so cold out then.
It depends on what you want to do with the colt. If you want to futurity as a 4 year old yes an early baby is better so they have more time to develop....but if you futurity them as a 5 year old (or not at all) I would push it back. I usually have my colts late April/May when it starts getting warm out...plus I don't have the added expense of putting them under lights.  |
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Location: Where I am happiest | It also depends on what part of the country your in. A early jan. or feb. foal in Arizona would be great. However I cringe at that thought of a jan. or feb. foal in the cold country we live in. It was 3 below this morning and I have seen way to many foals die from the cold or have no ears from being frost bit. So we aim for late april or may foals which also eliminate the lights deal. With lights, you really have to have a timer in your barn to turn the lights off and on. You have to be consistant with the light times and you really have to use 100 watt bulbs at the very least.
As far as John Fame goes.....I have a good friend with a filly by him. She is a very very nice mare! Mel Potter ( Sherry Cervi's dad) bred ALOT of mares to him. I think that says a lot and knowing the one my friend has, I wouldn't hesitate to have one in my barn at all. She did really well in the futurities this year, and is not a futurity trainer by any means.Not even sure she's ever even had a 1D horse before so they are very user friendly and talented. She also ended up the WPRA futurity 2D World Champion on that filly. |
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Location: Missouri | shubug007 - 2014-12-31 12:28 PM I like your bay studs pedigree. Looks like a nice cross. I like the idea of a more compact stud to try to level out my mares length. For 14.1 she's long. Talked with a vet today and he recommended to put lights on her now. He also recommended a few or mare baby but it's still so cold out then.
If you're keeping the baby and not planning to send to the track, I wouldn't bother with lights or an early foal. I'm also in MO and had my foal May 11th this year.
Not sure where you're located and I'm confused if you wanted to stay local or if that was just suggested by others, but I have seen Smokin Jo Twist and several of his offspring and they seem REALLY nice. Just a "local" option for ya!
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Location: Where I am happiest | shubug007 - 2014-12-31 11:37 AM I have several I like. I don't really want FG. I'm jus looking and looking. I don't want to break the bank on. Stud fee either. But don't want to breed to just anything. I love FWF, I'm loving ASOF along with several others. Lol
I thought you said you were wanting to stay around $1000 or under. Thus the horses I have been bringing up. ASOF is $3000 and I saw you said in another post your mare was long bodied. ASOF is also verrrrrry long so that wouldnt fit your mare unless you want a dashound. lol. |
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Who would you breed her too?