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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | When you say, "horse is for sale not ON SALE" ( in capital letters, no less)...I just want you to know I roll my eyes every time. Please, come up with something more original. If your price is firm, just say so. this phrase makes you sound like a used car salesman... |
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I've got a list of things that drive me crazy lol. Those words make me stop reading and move on. So, does someone standing on their horse lol. I could go on and on, but I'm hiding my crazy today lol. |
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Location: Kentucky | I read it and it translates to "I can't afford" and move on.  |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Or "serious inquiries only, don't waste my time"
RUDE
Especially when no price is listed. I read that and think, well gee...this seller sounds like a peach.
I realize selling horses is irritating (I have been there), but it's just part of it. No reason to be hostile, especially in the ad.
And for crying out loud, if you write "serious inquiries only" in the ad, at least put a general price range.  |
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Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I love "NO TIRE KICKERS!" lol That just encourages me to kick some tires! hahhahahhaha, I kicked a tire, now what are you going to do??? |
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 More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | ....or when people say "Horse for sell". |
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Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
Posts: 16390
Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Yeah, that's right! I just kicked your tire!!!
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 Cute Little Imp
Posts: 2747
Location: N Texas | This is one of the best ads I've come across. It's a terrible picture, but it's the only one you're getting! This guy sounds like a ray of sunshine!
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 Ima Non Controversial Girl
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Location: where the wind blows | My absolute most hated one is - good kids or ladies horse. ?? I wouldn't by a world champion if its advertised like that. The kids parts ok but I know a lot of ladies that can outride a lot of men. Sexist, sexist, sexist. 
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| I saw one on here that said you better bring a big checkbook. And it also said for sale not on sale. I couldn't belive how arrogant people are. Would never call on a horse that said that |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | This is a great post. All of the things I have been thinking and just haven't said |
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Location: Beggs, OK | There are too many horses available these days to deal with people that I know that I couldn't communicate with on an acceptable level.
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| It doesn't bother me when someone says that. If they have a price listed and it's not in my budget then I move on. |
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Location: Illinois | It drives me nuts when people don't list a price and says inquire for price and more info but no tire-kickers! It would eliminate tire-kickers asking how much the horse is if you just put a price. It also drives me crazy when people say 1D/ Pro rodeo horse and then have absolutely no proof that they have ever ran in a rodeo or placed in the 1D. If you can say that about your horse please provide the proper paperwork.  |
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Cute Little Imp
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Location: N Texas | Or "would make an awesome barrel horse because it runs really fast in the pasture!" Just ignore the fact that it's part draft |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | I love the ads that list a 1/2D horse and any results I can find are in the 4D...and recent... and several years back of 3/4D runs....
My horse is 1D at a local jackpot with 1 sec splits too... but I would not advertise him as such (He's solid 3D at Barrel Bash and SS's) |
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| OH MY ... the grammar!!!! PEOPLE please ... I HATE bad grammar in an add. I will just pass it up! |
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Location: Mountains of VA | What's up with, "Private Treaty" for the price??? Does this mean, if you like me the horse is free?? or if you do not like me you are going to jack the price way up?? UGH
There is a horse advertised on here now that I want to call about but the ad states "Private Treaty" and "No Tire Kickers"
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| What everybody said!!So totally agree with you all!!!! |
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| Learn how to spell ad instead of add ...
when it sez 1/2D does that mean they knocked 1 or 2 barrels .. while running only half the pattern??
or 3/4 D does that mean they just completed three fourths of the pattern ??
Put the price in and then you know the callers are looking in that price range!!
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Location: North Dakota | There are so many things that drive me nuts about sales ads. No price listed, bad spelling/grammar, and Judy general sass or rudeness will put me off instantly. Of course it goes both ways. I a mare listed as a pet or potential broodmare with a detailed description of her issues, what I've done, etc. Right in the ad. So of course I get tons of people asking me "is she sound for this?" "Is she sound for that?" "Does she buck?" I don't think they even bothered to read the ad. |
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Jr. Detective
Location: Beggs, OK |
You know something about the "message for price" ads...if you message them for a price you can get a lot more of the story. I bought the coolest pony in the world recently because I wasn't so hard headed that I couldn't follow directions. The owner didn't want his business out there for the world to see and wrote me right back. We had the deal done within 5 minutes and he was still getting "price, location" comments on his Facebook page for hours. |
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Location: Montana | CrossCreek - 2014-12-28 9:33 PM When you say, "horse is for sale not ON SALE" ( in capital letters, no less)...I just want you to know I roll my eyes every time. Please, come up with something more original. If your price is firm, just say so. this phrase makes you sound like a used car salesman... What I don't like is people who lump all used car salesman together because they can't possibly be individual characters. Not all used car salesmen are alike...they are people too.  You are just like the people who say "horse is for sale not ON SALE."
Yes that bothers me too in horse ads, but I just move on and don't worry about it. I don't care for the ads that are private treaty because to me it translates to "I can't afford it."
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Location: NW. Florida | I saw a new post today the horse is advertised at a 15.3. She had a website, so I go and look to see if she has more information on the horse. I find the horse she had sold earlier, which doesn't bother me, but he was advertised then as 15.1. He was a 10 year old so he wasn't growing a few years back. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | mtcanchazer - 2014-12-29 3:29 PM CrossCreek - 2014-12-28 9:33 PM When you say, "horse is for sale not ON SALE" ( in capital letters, no less)...I just want you to know I roll my eyes every time. Please, come up with something more original. If your price is firm, just say so. this phrase makes you sound like a used car salesman... What I don't like is people who lump all used car salesman together because they can't possibly be individual characters. Not all used car salesmen are alike...they are people too. You are just like the people who say "horse is for sale not ON SALE."
Yes that bothers me too in horse ads, but I just move on and don't worry about it. I don't care for the ads that are private treaty because to me it translates to "I can't afford it."
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| rachellyn80 - 2014-12-29 2:33 PM
You know something about the "message for price" ads...if you message them for a price you can get a lot more of the story. I bought the coolest pony in the world recently because I wasn't so hard headed that I couldn't follow directions. The owner didn't want his business out there for the world to see and wrote me right back. We had the deal done within 5 minutes and he was still getting "price, location" comments on his Facebook page for hours.
^^^^This!!! Sometimes private treaty just means the seller wants to keep it as that....."private."
If I'm interested in the horse, I don't have a problem contacting the owner and asking the price. When sellers advertise without a price, they should expect to get those types of calls/messages. |
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Location: Oklahoma | What bothers me is buyers who have been told everything about the horse; price is posted on the ad along with all other pertinent information, plus they have been texting me all day asking me all the same questions which I answer politely and then I haul them an hour to an indoor arena so they can be tried away from the house; they come ride the horse, and it lays down a smoking run (actually I had 3 that day and all three worked their a$$es off to the point that the steer wrestlers that were also there exercising their horses complimented my horses) and then I don't even sell one!!! What more do people want?? I'm so fed up with horse buyers now, and I usually NEVER say that....but when the horse is everything you say, and is priced right and performs well for you....then you want the seller to haul it all over to OTHER places and let you try it several more times, and if she won't, you want to offer her less than half of what it's priced? Sorry, but that's what I've been dealing with lately.
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Location: Canada | I have to admit I despise the for SALE not on SALE my other frustration is the ads for 1D Pro Rodeo horses but the horse is currently clocking in the 4D and has NEVER hit anything more then 3D. But of course with time and training, and wings, and fire flaming from it's tail it will be a 1D Pro Rodeo horse.
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-12-29 7:33 AM
....or when people say "Horse for sell".
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| rowdy256 - 2014-12-29 5:00 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-12-29 7:33 AM
....or when people say "Horse for sell".
I like horse 4 sail!!
Also love the "Must sale immediately"! Are sell/sale/sail doomed to be the next there/they're/their?! |
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Location: Ft Worth TX | I am wondering if anyone knows how to read anymore... I get asked 50 questions that are all simply answered by reading the ad. My 2 most common questions are Location and price. This info is in the first 2 lines of the ad. Height, color, and age are in the first sentence... |
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Location: East Texas | Whoop Z Day Z - 2014-12-29 5:18 PM I am wondering if anyone knows how to read anymore... I get asked 50 questions that are all simply answered by reading the ad. My 2 most common questions are Location and price. This info is in the first 2 lines of the ad. Height, color, and age are in the first sentence...
AMEN! I am selling a few broodmares, one is not sound. It states it clearly in the ad, and exactly why she isnt. Yet I still get emails of people wanting to see videos of her riding. I have another that I just sold that is a full sister to a bfa world champion we raised, I have the full brothers videos on the ad, and the first line in the ad is PLEASE NOTE VIDEO IS OF FULL BROTHER. I kid you not, for 2 months I got emails every single day asking why the mare was so cheap if she could run like that, why i bred her if she was that fast, etc. All i ask is for people to simply READ the ad!!! |
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| I just skip rude ads. Adds that read message for price or private treaty say "too expensive for you" so I keep moving. I understand it's frustrating selling a horse but honey attracts bees, not vinegar! |
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Location: Online | Guilding instead of gelding is one of my favorites. 15.5 hh, what does that mean anyway?
I really cringe when I see a horse that I know for a fact is not what it says in the ad and they advertise it as a 1D/2D horse, kid friendly, yet it comes in the gate on it's hind legs, and if they have video, they cut it off before the time is announced. And don't give registered name, or use the registered name when entering. Then give it a different name in the ad. It happens all the time with people I am aquainted with, and they sell a lot of horses just like that. Yet I can't sell a true 1D horse because I'm too honest.
Now, on the flip side, when I'm trying to sell one, what irritates me is when the interested person asks about price, if I will take less before they even see the horse. Then ask if there is any websites that show recent results. When 90% of the runs are in the 1D, they wonder why it ran in the 2D on such and such of day and don't call back. I don't care how great a horse is, it's going to have a bad day and place in the 2D once in a while. The perfect horse does not exist.
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Total Germophobe
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Location: Montana | Whoop Z Day Z - 2014-12-29 4:18 PM I am wondering if anyone knows how to read anymore... I get asked 50 questions that are all simply answered by reading the ad. My 2 most common questions are Location and price. This info is in the first 2 lines of the ad. Height, color, and age are in the first sentence...
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Location: Texas | As a buyer I really dislike the phrase "no tire kickers" because, frankly, I need to see and ride your horse and probably a few others before I make a decision. That's called SHOPPING!
As a seller, I REALLY dislike potential buyers that make me a lower offer before they have even seen/ridden the horse. I am always open to hear your offer (after you have ridden the horse), but you better be able to explain why you think my horse is worth less than my asking price ( which I put a lot of thought into & believe it is a fair price) |
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| There are some people around here and I am sure in every area that are repeatedly dishonest I don't know how they keep seeking horses. Some of the girls will over share on FB about how their horse is doing this and that like ducking a barrel or had a injury and then a month down the road will try and sell the horse saying " no bad habits runs the same eveytime and never been lame" I laugh but feel bad for people that will buy that horse not knowing |
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| All those rude phrases make me laugh. In no other sales industry do you see them. When you read ads for cars, you don't see "no tire kickers" or "for sale, not on sale"
I was an account executive for years and quite successful. I was STRAIGHT COMMISSION. I had to sell advertising space and I spent hours meeting with potential buyers/clients. Sometimes it paid off big, sometimes NOTHING. Frustrating yes but my card/media kit didn't say don't ask questions, don't contact me if you don't have funds blah,blah. It's very off putting and translates "I'm a jerk" to me.
There are quite a few ladies in my area who make a living selling horses and they are rude, rude, rude in their ads. When people ask me about them I tell them my honest opinion.
I've only bought one horse from an ad on here and only the 2nd time in my life. The young girl was so nice and didn't mind answering questions. Honest too. I've sent several people her way.
Except for one horse on my place, all were bought from a word of mouth and never advertised. They were easiest sellers to deal with. |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | mtcanchazer - 2014-12-29 6:55 PM Whoop Z Day Z - 2014-12-29 4:18 PM I am wondering if anyone knows how to read anymore... I get asked 50 questions that are all simply answered by reading the ad. My 2 most common questions are Location and price. This info is in the first 2 lines of the ad. Height, color, and age are in the first sentence... Its not just with horses either...man that drives me nuts!
maybe the buyer is looking to see if the information changes or if you elaborate on it. sometimes ads have limited space and asking a question that is on the ad allows the buyer to get in writing for a seocond time the information and perhaps more. |
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Location: Kansas | LRQHS - 2014-12-29 7:40 AM Yeah, that's right! I just kicked your tire!!!
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| My personal favorite is the $50,000 horse with no video, no height, the picture looks like their 3 year old took it, maybe 20 word description and then " no tire kickers!" |
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Location: lone star state | As a seller I would ask for a deposit say the cost of your fuel to weed out the pony riders and tire kickers if the buyer wants to haul the horse away fron the farm to try. As a buyer I am first going to the horses home to determine if the horse fits me. If the horse is expensive and I want more time then I wouldn't be offended by having to place a fuel deposit in order for the seller to haul to arena for me to try. Its simply good business. If pony riders get mad who cares they didn't intend to buy anyway. |
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Location: Texas | I can't stand the one's with no "price"! I just pass them up and go to the next one. If they really wanted to sell the horse they should put the price. |
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Location: MD | tracies - 2014-12-30 1:04 AM As a buyer I really dislike the phrase "no tire kickers" because, frankly, I need to see and ride your horse and probably a few others before I make a decision. That's called SHOPPING!
As a seller, I REALLY dislike potential buyers that make me a lower offer before they have even seen/ridden the horse. I am always open to hear your offer (after you have ridden the horse), but you better be able to explain why you think my horse is worth less than my asking price ( which I put a lot of thought into & believe it is a fair price)
I usually don't like to comment on these threads but I agree with this. and if I tire kick, what are you gonna do?
And no I'm not a tire kicker, I don't comment unless I've got cash to burn and I see a horse I want. |
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Location: Paradise , tx | As a seller, I REALLY dislike potential buyers that make me a lower offer before they have even seen/ridden the horse. I am always open to hear your offer (after you have ridden the horse), but you better be able to explain why you think my horse is worth less than my asking price ( which I put a lot of thought into & believe it is a fair price)
That is something that always use to really bother me for someone to call and ask what my bottom dollar was, when they haven't even seen the horse yet. Sometimes I just wanted to say "well for you the price is double" because they asked a dunb question |
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| Tailwind - 2015-01-02 3:02 PM
As a seller, I REALLY dislike potential buyers that make me a lower offer before they have even seen/ridden the horse. I am always open to hear your offer (after you have ridden the horse), but you better be able to explain why you think my horse is worth less than my asking price ( which I put a lot of thought into & believe it is a fair price)
That is something that always use to really bother me for someone to call and ask what my bottom dollar was, when they haven't even seen the horse yet. Sometimes I just wanted to say "well for you the price is double" because they asked a dunb question
But on the flip side, before I drive 4 hrs and take a whole day to see a horse, its nice to know if they are willing to negotiate or not. Sometimes the horse may be a little out of my price range, but if the seller is willing to negotiate, then I may likely go try the horse, but if they won't, then I wont waste anyone's time seeing the horse. Now if its only an hour away, then I would just go see the animal and then make up my mind... |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | I don't get it when people are just plane rude??? I saw a half brother to my old horse a few years ago for sale on here, he was jet black, handsome, and coming along nicely. I emailed the seller and simply complimented them on their horse, told them I had the horse's half brother (who had a very nice list of credentials by the way, my horse was several years older than theirs) and wished them luck, if I had the money I'd buy him, someone is getting a super nice horse, good luck selling him, you get the idea....the response I got was, if you aren't interested, don't waste my time......seriously? I was just trying to be nice, heck they couldn't wrote down my horse's credentials if they wanted to.....smh...it wasn't like I asked 50 questions, rode him, and decided I didn't want him. |
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Location: Nowhere Special | As someone that has been horse shopping HARD for the past three weeks I can so relate to so much of this..
1.If you don't put a price I'm probably not going to contact you. Price helps me decide on a horse im either interested in or ruling out, if I have to message every other add I see it gets time consuming just to find out I can't afford the horse or 3 days later when the person answers can't recall which horse it was..
2. Don't stand on your horse.. I don't stand on mine, it proves NOTHING to me. I have been seeing so many of these pics in adds latley I was begining to wonder if anyone in TX actually sits on their horse. How about some good conformation shots instead?
3. If your horse is unsound, please say so before I drive 3 hours, if you have to ace it to get it in the arena, how about we discuss this when your asking my riding skills before you will let me come see said horse..If its club footed, yes again let me know, I really HATE having to point this out to owners and thanking them for there time as I sware under my breath on my way back to the car for another wasted day.
4. IF I'm coming to look at a barrel horse, I kinda need somewhere to at least walk, trot, lope the pattern, nothing fancy is necessary and even bad ground I can see if a horse has potential or not, without risking injury.. (inquired about a "finished" barrel mare, when asked if there was a place to try her, I was told riding her was not permitted) You can't make this stuff up folks!
If I'm coming to look at a horse that is advertised as a cutting/sorting horse.. This will involve cattle if the horse has no earnings.. I'm not taking anyones word that a horse is "super cowy" because that can mean so many things..
5. And last but not least.. Why oh why do you answer all of my questions EXCEPT when is a good time to come see him/her? Yep several occasions find something I'm interested in, ask a few pertinent questions and then ask for a time to come try the horse and NEVER hear from the owner again (and this is all within the same conversation, minuets apart, not days) or the I'll call you tonight, tomorrow, in the morning to set something up and then they never bother.. I just don't understand this at all..
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| My favorite EVER!!! There was a horse advertised here about 6 to 8 months ago that wasn't too far from where we live. Video looked like the horse had never seen barrels before.
The ad read 1D horse. Only selling because I don't want to go that fast anymore! Willing to trade for something ready to haul.
My husband and I have made it a little inside joke that "I don't want to go that fast".
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