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Feeding Coconut Oil
RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
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I did a search and didn't really see anything. Those that feed coconut oil give me the skinny on it: why did you start? Did it do what you wanted it to? Is it crazy expensive? How much do you feed? Do your horses like it?

I fed it a while back to a mare with positive results and it wasn't too expensive really, I'm just wondering other people's experiences.

Thanks!!
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Reg. Dec 2013
Posted 2015-01-02 9:35 PM
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Curious to hear about this too. I use it for a hoof moisturizer, haven't fed it though.
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Reg. Nov 2007
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Hmmm.. I know Renew Gold is based around the cococut oil health benefit for horses theory.  I know from the human perspective that coconut oil is very high in MCT's- which are Medium Chain Triglycerides- very important for slowing digestion and burning body fat.  Not sure if that's what it does in horses too or not- I would imagine it's expensive, and I think if I chose to feed it, I would feed Renew Gold which already has the feed ratios figured out- good luck!  :)
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cavyrunsbarrels
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 I would definitely buy it in bulk. It's like $12 for a jar. I don't know about feeding it but I'm interested as it wold definitely help the powder stick to my ponie's feed.
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Reg. Aug 2007
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I was on pinterest fiddling around and it had a pin on feeding coconut oil without going broke.
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Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2015-01-02 11:09 PM
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I buy it at Costco. Not sure how long it lasts as I use it for my hair and body, put it in my daily smoothie and give it to the dogs, but it's $23 for a tub. Unless it's warm it will be hard. I keep the big tub in the house and then use a cookie dough scoop and fill a cookie sheet with balls. Pop in the fridge for a few and the balls harden. I keep them in a plastic container in the barn and drop however many I want to into their grain buckets. The horses like them and the dogs come running when they hear the container open. I have one ulcer horse so I hope it helps coat her stomach. Both are shiny and I figure it isn't hurting them any.
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Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2015-01-03 9:20 AM
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I use it for makeup remover, put it on my hair at night, use about a teaspoon in my morning coffee. It gives it kinda of a nutty taste. I want to try on the horses.
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Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-01-03 10:19 AM
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 We feed it to a mare at the barn where I am at. This mare has horrible spring/summer skin allergies. She scratches and rubs until raw, well she used to UNTIL the owner started her on Coconut Oil. The mare was on all kinds of different supplements (even Platinum for this problem) and nothing was proving to be very effective. So, I got to thinking about how it is good for bug bits, rashes etc and googled. She is on it through the winter as well in the summer all blisters went away and the itching all but ceased.  Coconut Oil is good for Auto Imuunie diseases, skin allergies (both topical and feed through), digestive problems etc. Google "using coconut oil for horses", it pulls right up. Also Google the benefits of coconut oil. 
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Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2015-01-03 10:31 AM
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I use this. Very cost effective and my horses look great! 
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JRust
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2015-01-03 6:45 PM
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Chasinmydream - 2015-01-03 10:31 AM

I use this. Very cost effective and my horses look great! 
http://www.stanceequine.com/product-powerstance

thank you for sharing!!! I just might give this a try in spring. I have my sensitive gelding on omegafields-horse shine for omega supplement. But this stuff looks like it will help too!!

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Poohb10454
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2015-01-04 9:23 AM
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We feed coconut oil mixed with turmeric powder. We started using it for a sarcoid that my mare had. After it was gone we realized how much better her coat, mane, feet were doing and have since put our other 2 horses on it as well. The turmeric is great for joints, and arthritis too, not to mention a billion other things. The turmeric and coconut oil is a good inexpensive option. The cocunut oil can be difficult in the winter because it is solid if it gets even a little cold, so I have to warm it in the house before going out. Often times in the winter I will also use olive oil.

Here is some information I copy and pasted from the Turmeric user group page on facebook, you can also google Turmeric for horses :)

https://www.facebook.com/notes/brittany-wright/turmeric-information/...
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-01-04 10:40 AM
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Poohb10454 - 2015-01-04 9:23 AM

We feed coconut oil mixed with turmeric powder. We started using it for a sarcoid that my mare had. After it was gone we realized how much better her coat, mane, feet were doing and have since put our other 2 horses on it as well. The turmeric is great for joints, and arthritis too, not to mention a billion other things. The turmeric and coconut oil is a good inexpensive option. The cocunut oil can be difficult in the winter because it is solid if it gets even a little cold, so I have to warm it in the house before going out. Often times in the winter I will also use olive oil.

Here is some information I copy and pasted from the Turmeric user group page on facebook, you can also google Turmeric for horses :)

https://www.facebook.com/notes/brittany-wright/turmeric-information/...
Where do you buy your turmeric? That was a very interesting article you posted. Thanks
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Lady
Reg. Jun 2009
Posted 2015-01-04 11:05 AM
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Poohb10454 - 2015-01-04 9:23 AM

We feed coconut oil mixed with turmeric powder. We started using it for a sarcoid that my mare had. After it was gone we realized how much better her coat, mane, feet were doing and have since put our other 2 horses on it as well. The turmeric is great for joints, and arthritis too, not to mention a billion other things. The turmeric and coconut oil is a good inexpensive option. The cocunut oil can be difficult in the winter because it is solid if it gets even a little cold, so I have to warm it in the house before going out. Often times in the winter I will also use olive oil.

Here is some information I copy and pasted from the Turmeric user group page on facebook, you can also google Turmeric for horses :)

https://www.facebook.com/notes/brittany-wright/turmeric-information/...
How much oil and how much turmeric do you feed a horse daily?
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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-01-04 11:11 AM
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Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com
You get fiber and oil in one
Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed
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trulyaroyaljem
Reg. Nov 2010
Posted 2015-01-04 11:18 AM
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Poohb10454 - 2015-01-04 9:23 AM

We feed coconut oil mixed with turmeric powder. We started using it for a sarcoid that my mare had. After it was gone we realized how much better her coat, mane, feet were doing and have since put our other 2 horses on it as well. The turmeric is great for joints, and arthritis too, not to mention a billion other things. The turmeric and coconut oil is a good inexpensive option. The cocunut oil can be difficult in the winter because it is solid if it gets even a little cold, so I have to warm it in the house before going out. Often times in the winter I will also use olive oil.

Here is some information I copy and pasted from the Turmeric user group page on facebook, you can also google Turmeric for horses :)

https://www.facebook.com/notes/brittany-wright/turmeric-information/...
how much coconut oil and turmeric are you feeding? are you just buying turmeric in bulk? I take Cucurmin gel caps from the Natureopath and feel the difference. Takes my joint and body soreness away. Excellent antioxidant.
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GLP
Reg. Oct 2013
Posted 2015-01-04 11:32 AM
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SG. - 2015-01-04 11:11 AM

Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com
You get fiber and oil in one
Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed

How much do you feed? I am trying get away from processed feeds, especially with the current deaths. I am not sold on rice bran/meal or beet pulp.
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Poohb10454
Reg. Apr 2013
Posted 2015-01-04 1:09 PM
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I gradually work them up to 1 heaping table spoon of turmeric 1x a day as a maintenance dose. We were feeding 2 TSP when we were removing the sarcoid. The article i posted does have information about feeding as well. I use a dash of fresh ground pepper and just enough oil to make it a runny paste that I can easily mix in their food.

I order in bulk from www.myspicesage.com I want to say its $30 ish for 5lbs and free shipping...that usually lasts me a couple months with 3 horses. I havent tried ordering the coconut oil in bulk just yet

Here is a link http://www.myspicesage.com/turmeric-ground-p-254.html

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SG.
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2015-01-04 1:15 PM
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GLP - 2015-01-04 11:32 AM
SG. - 2015-01-04 11:11 AM Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com You get fiber and oil in one Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed
How much do you feed? I am trying get away from processed feeds, especially with the current deaths. I am not sold on rice bran/meal or beet pulp.

Depends on the horse, age, condition but a cup or more 
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cavyrunsbarrels
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2015-01-04 2:10 PM
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 This is all very interesting! Those of you who feed the oil, how much do you feed per day?

Edited by cavyrunsbarrels 2015-01-05 2:10 AM
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JRust
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Posted 2015-01-04 2:23 PM
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SG. - 2015-01-04 1:15 PM

GLP - 2015-01-04 11:32 AM
SG. - 2015-01-04 11:11 AM Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com You get fiber and oil in one Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed
How much do you feed? I am trying get away from processed feeds, especially with the current deaths. I am not sold on rice bran/meal or beet pulp.

Depends on the horse, age, condition but a cup or more 

I wondered if you would respond! I've been using tropical traditions for years because of your testimony about them. It's changed my kitchen and household!

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RoaniePonie11
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Posted 2015-01-04 2:39 PM
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If anyone is interested, I just did the math (in my head so you may double check): 1/2 cup coconut oil is about 115g and at 117 calories per 14g that's right at 1000 calories per half cup. At 14g fat per 14g coconut oil feeding 1/2 cup would be like feeding a pound of a 25% fat feed? I think I did that right maybe lol.
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Barnmom
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Posted 2015-01-04 3:13 PM
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SG. - 2015-01-04 11:11 AM Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com You get fiber and oil in one Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed

I wish you would!  What is your program now? 
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Posted 2015-01-04 3:30 PM
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Barnmom - 2015-01-04 3:13 PM

SG. - 2015-01-04 11:11 AM Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com You get fiber and oil in one Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed

I wish you would!  What is your program now? 

I second this request! The use of coconut flakes intrigues me.
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Reg. Mar 2013
Posted 2015-01-04 3:54 PM
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We feed our german shepherds turmeric and coconut oil but never thought I could give it to my horses as well!
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Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-01-05 9:26 AM
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There is real value from coconut meal or oil in the horses digestive system. We went through 17 formulation trials to establish the relationship of anti bacterial benefit of coconut oil, verses digestive efficiency. Too much traveling too far down the system becomes a negative. Complete digestion of the oil portion of whatever form of coconut you use needs to happen in the small intestine. If it gets to the hind gut, you can get a very negative effect on the beneficial bacteria, and a loss of ability to break down roughage effectively. We use coconut meal in Renew Gold for it's value in providing more than just oil to the formulation, but also fiber and a very good amino acid profile. The combination of that and food grade stabilized rice bran ( west coast grown only) and food grade stabilized flax, provide the most ideal combination of benefits without generating unintended roadblocks in the digestive system that would prevent complete use of the roughage. There is so much more to this than coconut oil, no matter how valuable it is.
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Posted 2015-01-05 11:07 AM
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Barnmom - 2015-01-04 4:13 PM

SG. - 2015-01-04 11:11 AM Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com You get fiber and oil in one Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed

I wish you would!  What is your program now? 

How long does a gallon of flakes last you?
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Posted 2015-01-05 11:30 AM
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If horse are already on Renew Gold, would you feed additional coconut oil?
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GLP - 2015-01-05 1:30 PM

Barnmom - 2015-01-04 3:13 PM

SG. - 2015-01-04 11:11 AM Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com You get fiber and oil in one Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed

I wish you would!  What is your program now? 

I second this request! The use of coconut flakes intrigues me.

Me also because Rice Bran is actually something I should avoid with CC's issues...
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Posted 2015-01-05 1:34 PM
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If you feed straight coconut meal, flakes or other processed forms that include the fiber portion of the coconut there are several things that you need to consider. First, there are very few facilities in the world that produce coconut meal that you can rely on to be free of pathogens that effect horses. We have tested coconut meal from most coconut producing areas in the world and only accept product from two very specific plants that can produce both the quality and volume that we will accept. If you feed coconut oil alone I personally would only use expeller extracted oil. Much of the coconut oil brought to the US is solvent extracted. I would not feed that to my horses. If you are feeding coconut meal or flakes by themselves, you will also need to consider a source of additional lysine, as there is practically none in coconut. This is a limiting amino acid, meaning the body can't make energy without it. This is where the very unique relationship between food grade Stabilized Rice Bran and Food grade Coconut meal and food grade Flax comes in. They really were made for each other in terms of one product filling nutritional holes in the other when blended in the proper ratio. That is not criticize those who are willing to try to blend their own feed. But, for many, they have neither the time, experience with how one ingredient truly effects others, or access to the proper form and quality to make an effective and balanced feed.
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Posted 2015-01-05 1:34 PM
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astreakinchic - 2015-01-05 11:07 AM

Barnmom - 2015-01-04 4:13 PM

SG. - 2015-01-04 11:11 AM Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com You get fiber and oil in one Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed

I wish you would!  What is your program now? 

How long does a gallon of flakes last you?

  When I did the math, if you're feeding 1 cup a day, you'll be going through 2 gallons per horse per month.
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Posted 2015-01-05 1:50 PM
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Barnmom - 2015-01-04 4:13 PM

SG. - 2015-01-04 11:11 AM Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com You get fiber and oil in one Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed

I wish you would!  What is your program now? 

How long does a gallon of flakes last you?

  When I did the math, if you're feeding 1 cup a day, you'll be going through 2 gallons per horse per month.

That'd be about $22 dollars off that site so it looks like it be about as cost effective as the cocosoy oil i'm feeding.
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winwillows - 2015-01-05 1:34 PM If you feed straight coconut meal, flakes or other processed forms that include the fiber portion of the coconut there are several things that you need to consider. First, there are very few facilities in the world that produce coconut meal that you can rely on to be free of pathogens that effect horses. We have tested coconut meal from most coconut producing areas in the world and only accept product from two very specific plants that can produce both the quality and volume that we will accept. If you feed coconut oil alone I personally would only use expeller extracted oil. Much of the coconut oil brought to the US is solvent extracted. I would not feed that to my horses. If you are feeding coconut meal or flakes by themselves, you will also need to consider a source of additional lysine, as there is practically none in coconut. This is a limiting amino acid, meaning the body can't make energy without it. This is where the very unique relationship between food grade Stabilized Rice Bran and Food grade Coconut meal and food grade Flax comes in. They really were made for each other in terms of one product filling nutritional holes in the other when blended in the proper ratio. That is not criticize those who are willing to try to blend their own feed. But, for many, they have neither the time, experience with how one ingredient truly effects others, or access to the proper form and quality to make an effective and balanced feed.

I love the fact that you simply give the facts, and the reasoning behind your product. That you're not saying your way is the only right way, but explaining to those of us who may not know, the different options and what to expect from them. It is obvious that you have put a lot of time and research into the subject, and I really appreciate you sharing.
I'm all for trying different things if they can actually help my horses, but lord knows it's been a few years since I took a feed analysis class in college...and I don't remember enough to balance my own feeding program! lol.
Personally, I've had my horses on Renew Gold for about a year and a half now. I'm not 110% sold that its better than what they had before, but it cost me about the same, they look about the same, and I like that I'm not feeding them pounds and pounds of grain every day. So we will see.

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winwillows - 2015-01-05 1:34 PM If you feed straight coconut meal, flakes or other processed forms that include the fiber portion of the coconut there are several things that you need to consider. First, there are very few facilities in the world that produce coconut meal that you can rely on to be free of pathogens that effect horses. We have tested coconut meal from most coconut producing areas in the world and only accept product from two very specific plants that can produce both the quality and volume that we will accept. If you feed coconut oil alone I personally would only use expeller extracted oil. Much of the coconut oil brought to the US is solvent extracted. I would not feed that to my horses. If you are feeding coconut meal or flakes by themselves, you will also need to consider a source of additional lysine, as there is practically none in coconut. This is a limiting amino acid, meaning the body can't make energy without it. This is where the very unique relationship between food grade Stabilized Rice Bran and Food grade Coconut meal and food grade Flax comes in. They really were made for each other in terms of one product filling nutritional holes in the other when blended in the proper ratio. That is not criticize those who are willing to try to blend their own feed. But, for many, they have neither the time, experience with how one ingredient truly effects others, or access to the proper form and quality to make an effective and balanced feed.

I love the fact that you simply give the facts, and the reasoning behind your product. That you're not saying your way is the only right way, but explaining to those of us who may not know, the different options and what to expect from them. It is obvious that you have put a lot of time and research into the subject, and I really appreciate you sharing.
I'm all for trying different things if they can actually help my horses, but lord knows it's been a few years since I took a feed analysis class in college...and I don't remember enough to balance my own feeding program! lol.
Personally, I've had my horses on Renew Gold for about a year and a half now. I'm not 110% sold that its better than what they had before, but it cost me about the same, they look about the same, and I like that I'm not feeding them pounds and pounds of grain every day. So we will see.


And also why even though most sites suggest that I stay away from rice bran with CC that she is still on Renew Gold. Is it a perfect fit? NO, but it is the best fit we have found so far.
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I started my very food allergic mare on Renew Gold this evening. Hoping for good results in the morning. Its in addition to alfalfa and a ration balancer, neither of which she reacts negatively to.

And thank you Win for sharing you research on this thread!

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osu_barrelracer - 2015-01-06 12:15 PM

winwillows - 2015-01-05 1:34 PM If you feed straight coconut meal, flakes or other processed forms that include the fiber portion of the coconut there are several things that you need to consider. First, there are very few facilities in the world that produce coconut meal that you can rely on to be free of pathogens that effect horses. We have tested coconut meal from most coconut producing areas in the world and only accept product from two very specific plants that can produce both the quality and volume that we will accept. If you feed coconut oil alone I personally would only use expeller extracted oil. Much of the coconut oil brought to the US is solvent extracted. I would not feed that to my horses. If you are feeding coconut meal or flakes by themselves, you will also need to consider a source of additional lysine, as there is practically none in coconut. This is a limiting amino acid, meaning the body can't make energy without it. This is where the very unique relationship between food grade Stabilized Rice Bran and Food grade Coconut meal and food grade Flax comes in. They really were made for each other in terms of one product filling nutritional holes in the other when blended in the proper ratio. That is not criticize those who are willing to try to blend their own feed. But, for many, they have neither the time, experience with how one ingredient truly effects others, or access to the proper form and quality to make an effective and balanced feed.

I love the fact that you simply give the facts, and the reasoning behind your product. That you're not saying your way is the only right way, but explaining to those of us who may not know, the different options and what to expect from them. It is obvious that you have put a lot of time and research into the subject, and I really appreciate you sharing.
I'm all for trying different things if they can actually help my horses, but lord knows it's been a few years since I took a feed analysis class in college...and I don't remember enough to balance my own feeding program! lol.
Personally, I've had my horses on Renew Gold for about a year and a half now. I'm not 110% sold that its better than what they had before, but it cost me about the same, they look about the same, and I like that I'm not feeding them pounds and pounds of grain every day. So we will see.


And also why even though most sites suggest that I stay away from rice bran with CC that she is still on Renew Gold. Is it a perfect fit? NO, but it is the best fit we have found so far.

What is the issue with your horse, and the concern about her eating stabilized rice bran? Just curious, since I am the person who developed stabilized rice bran for use in horses. I may be able to help.
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She is the one with two small kidney stones in her left kidney and we had the bladder stone that was too large to pass removed....the herbs and ACV have helped either her pass a kidney stone and two of the small bladder stones that were there in the earlier ultrasounds.
Most nutritional sites in regards to stones in horses recommended I stay away from the rice bran.

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run n rate - 2015-01-05 5:19 PM

She is the one with two small kidney stones in her left kidney and we had the bladder stone that was too large to pass removed....the herbs and ACV have helped either her pass a kidney stone and two of the small bladder stones that were there in the earlier ultrasounds.
Most nutritional sites in regards to stones in horses recommended I stay away from the rice bran.

I am not sure why people keep grouping stabilized rice bran with wheat bran in dietary effect. While they are technically both "brans", nutritionally, a comparison of the two would be like comparing cardboard to a complete meal. We should not compare human effect to equine effect because the total diets of the two are, of course, vastly different. That being said, it has been clinically shown that cal/phos balanced stabilized rice bran is effective in limiting kidney stones in humans. Stabilized rice bran is a vital part of the Renew Gold formulation, and is a primary reason that the coconut meal is as effective in the stomach and small intestine as it is. The total daily intake of the balanced calcium and phosphorus ratios from Renew Gold is so small in comparison to the rest of the diet that you should have no issues as a result, even with very sensitive horses. I understand the reasoning that people use in making some of the internet criticism, but it is clear in the majority of those posts that they have very little understanding of the difference between food grade, cal/phos balanced, stabilized rice bran and raw rice bran, or wheat bran. It is kind of like saying " all hay is the same because it is hay". So much for my rant. Renew Gold should not generate concerns in a horse with kidney issues.
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winwillows - 2015-01-05 1:34 PM If you feed straight coconut meal, flakes or other processed forms that include the fiber portion of the coconut there are several things that you need to consider. First, there are very few facilities in the world that produce coconut meal that you can rely on to be free of pathogens that effect horses. We have tested coconut meal from most coconut producing areas in the world and only accept product from two very specific plants that can produce both the quality and volume that we will accept. If you feed coconut oil alone I personally would only use expeller extracted oil. Much of the coconut oil brought to the US is solvent extracted. I would not feed that to my horses. If you are feeding coconut meal or flakes by themselves, you will also need to consider a source of additional lysine, as there is practically none in coconut. This is a limiting amino acid, meaning the body can't make energy without it. This is where the very unique relationship between food grade Stabilized Rice Bran and Food grade Coconut meal and food grade Flax comes in. They really were made for each other in terms of one product filling nutritional holes in the other when blended in the proper ratio. That is not criticize those who are willing to try to blend their own feed. But, for many, they have neither the time, experience with how one ingredient truly effects others, or access to the proper form and quality to make an effective and balanced feed.

Your feed sounds very interesting. Do you have any plans to sell it up north any time soon? I'm in North Dakota and at least when I checked the dealer list on your website I didn't see any dealers remotely close to me. 
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To tell you the truth, our dealer locator sucks. We are working on an upgrade now. We are trying to eliminate those stores on the list that do not keep Renew Gold in stock at all times. Your best bet is to pm or email us and we will get a regional rep involved and find or set up a store as close as possible. Just pm your contact information, and I will work on it for you.
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winwillows - 2015-01-05 7:38 PM To tell you the truth, our dealer locator sucks. We are working on an upgrade now. We are trying to eliminate those stores on the list that do not keep Renew Gold in stock at all times. Your best bet is to pm or email us and we will get a regional rep involved and find or set up a store as close as possible. Just pm your contact information, and I will work on it for you. Win

 When we got a more local feed store to start carrying it I was stoked. I had to cordinate with them though, as to when they were getting it in, because they weren't ordering but a few bags at a time. However, now that a lot more people in the area are feeding it, and they are finaly stocking larger amounts, they done went and jacked the price up by $6 a bag!
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winwillows - 2015-01-06 4:33 PM

run n rate - 2015-01-05 5:19 PM

She is the one with two small kidney stones in her left kidney and we had the bladder stone that was too large to pass removed....the herbs and ACV have helped either her pass a kidney stone and two of the small bladder stones that were there in the earlier ultrasounds.
Most nutritional sites in regards to stones in horses recommended I stay away from the rice bran.

I am not sure why people keep grouping stabilized rice bran with wheat bran in dietary effect. While they are technically both "brans", nutritionally, a comparison of the two would be like comparing cardboard to a complete meal. We should not compare human effect to equine effect because the total diets of the two are, of course, vastly different. That being said, it has been clinically shown that cal/phos balanced stabilized rice bran is effective in limiting kidney stones in humans. Stabilized rice bran is a vital part of the Renew Gold formulation, and is a primary reason that the coconut meal is as effective in the stomach and small intestine as it is. The total daily intake of the balanced calcium and phosphorus ratios from Renew Gold is so small in comparison to the rest of the diet that you should have no issues as a result, even with very sensitive horses. I understand the reasoning that people use in making some of the internet criticism, but it is clear in the majority of those posts that they have very little understanding of the difference between food grade, cal/phos balanced, stabilized rice bran and raw rice bran, or wheat bran. It is kind of like saying " all hay is the same because it is hay". So much for my rant. Renew Gold should not generate concerns in a horse with kidney issues.
Win

You explained that to me in a previous post and hence the reason she is still on the RG as well as all my horses.
Thank you for the explanation again however, it was nice to have a refresher!
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SG. - 2015-01-04 11:11 AM Personally I feed the unsweetened coconut flakes Tropical traditions.com You get fiber and oil in one Yes I have told winwillows this before I wish his product was coconut meal based and not rice bran Guess someday I need to formulate what I consider the ideal feed
How much do you feed? I am trying get away from processed feeds, especially with the current deaths. I am not sold on rice bran/meal or beet pulp.
Depends on the horse, age, condition but a cup or more 
I wondered if you would respond! I've been using tropical traditions for years because of your testimony about them. It's changed my kitchen and household!

Thank you!  They are a very great company with a very great product.  So thrilled it is working for you 
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winwillows - 2015-01-05 7:38 PM To tell you the truth, our dealer locator sucks. We are working on an upgrade now. We are trying to eliminate those stores on the list that do not keep Renew Gold in stock at all times. Your best bet is to pm or email us and we will get a regional rep involved and find or set up a store as close as possible. Just pm your contact information, and I will work on it for you. Win

Thanks. I'm really peeved though, I either went to or called every feed store near me and none of them have Renew Gold. Only one deals in Manna Pro products at all. I really don't want to pay $60/bag to get it from Jeffers Pet. 
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I bought a bag at Tractor supply (in Bismarck) about a month or so ago......You should call and ask them to get it so you can try it.  Whenever I need the rice bran pellets, I get in touch with them and they make sure they have it for me. 
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LMS - 2015-01-13 2:37 PM

I bought a bag at Tractor supply (in Bismarck) about a month or so ago......You should call and ask them to get it so you can try it.  Whenever I need the rice bran pellets, I get in touch with them and they make sure they have it for me. 

  What!? I checked there and their website days they don't stock it in bismarck. I'll have to go back.
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LMS - 2015-01-13 2:37 PM I bought a bag at Tractor supply (in Bismarck) about a month or so ago......You should call and ask them to get it so you can try it.  Whenever I need the rice bran pellets, I get in touch with them and they make sure they have it for me. 
  What!? I checked there and their website days they don't stock it in bismarck. I'll have to go back.

Where in ND are you?
I tried to get it in the Sidney Tractor Supply and am not getting any luck with it. :( They recommended to order online and have shipped to the store and the online won't let me even order it. 
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-01-13 2:51 PM
LMS - 2015-01-13 2:37 PM I bought a bag at Tractor supply (in Bismarck) about a month or so ago......You should call and ask them to get it so you can try it.  Whenever I need the rice bran pellets, I get in touch with them and they make sure they have it for me. 
  What!? I checked there and their website days they don't stock it in bismarck. I'll have to go back.

My Tractor Supply doesn't carry it in stock either but they will get it for me. I just have to call them to order it.  
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cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-01-13 2:51 PM
LMS - 2015-01-13 2:37 PM I bought a bag at Tractor supply (in Bismarck) about a month or so ago......You should call and ask them to get it so you can try it.  Whenever I need the rice bran pellets, I get in touch with them and they make sure they have it for me. 
  What!? I checked there and their website days they don't stock it in bismarck. I'll have to go back.

The website is BS, I've had to walk in and ask, but if you can get ahold of Bryce (if he still works there) that's what I've done in the past.  Even calling didn't work all the time! 
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  I GOT IT! Went through 3 employees but in the end the manager ordered it for me. I'm ecstatic right now.
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