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Firewater Finale or Ninety Nine Goldmine....
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Whiteboy - 2015-01-08 2:14 PM That's a little downplayed don't ya think?
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | dream_chaser - 2015-01-08 2:16 PM What is our hypothetical budget ? lol Firewater Finale or Ninety Nine Goldmine....
Our hypothetical budget lol is Frenchman's Guy or Dash ta Fame and below....not PYC, CC or First Down Dash money. |
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Location: Alberta | LRQHS - 2015-01-08 1:19 PM
dream_chaser - 2015-01-08 2:16 PM What is our hypothetical budget ? lol Firewater Finale or Ninety Nine Goldmine....
Our hypothetical budget lol is Frenchman's Guy or Dash ta Fame and below....not PYC, CC or First Down Dash money.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Dash Ta Fame. Second choice would be frozen of Firewater Flit. Either way it's frozen and if DTF is in the budget I think Firewater Flit would be to, if there is anymore semen to be had. |
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| LRQHS - 2015-01-08 2:17 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-08 2:14 PM That's a little downplayed don't ya think?
anyway...ASOF What you mean downplayed lol?
Let me help you out.
Hears for Lena-
-World Show Qualifier Jr Heading
-Performance ROM
Produced
Lenas Smokin Harts-
-World Show Qualifer Jr Heeling
-Performance ROM
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-35 AQHA points
Her Dam:
Thief O Hearts performed
-NCHA $38,000 earnings
-NCHA non pro classic 3rd place
Thief O Hearts Produced
-126.5 performance points
- 3 different world show qualifiers (some qualified several years)
-NCHA money producer ($60,000)
-NRCHA Money Producer ($9,000)
-NRHA Money Producer ($2,000)
Full sister Hearts O lena produced $105K NCHA
Full Sister Thiefs of Diamonds produced $78K NRCHA
These girls are athletes and produce athletes.
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Location: Carpenter, WY | I think you're going to find that those good old cow lines are going to cross well on ALOT of different types. We have put our DOL grandaughter on different studs both speed and cow and have never been disappointed. They seem to be the first to sell and go on to do good things in the arena in a variety of events. Nice minds, good bone and actually more speed than you'd think. Put all your choices in a hat and draw one out and go with it  |
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Good to see you, Meg. Thanks :)
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | ThreeCorners - 2015-01-08 1:25 PM Dash Ta Fame. Second choice would be frozen of Firewater Flit. Either way it's frozen and if DTF is in the budget I think Firewater Flit would be to, if there is anymore semen to be had.
I think DTF is $6000 and FWF is $20,000. or maybe FWF is only $10,000. But he quite a bit higher. I want one really bad :( |
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Location: Where I am happiest | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-08 2:37 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-01-08 1:25 PM Dash Ta Fame. Second choice would be frozen of Firewater Flit. Either way it's frozen and if DTF is in the budget I think Firewater Flit would be to, if there is anymore semen to be had. I think DTF is $6000 and FWF is $20,000. or maybe FWF is only $10,000. But he quite a bit higher. I want one really bad :(
I think DTF is $7000 and FWF is $10,000 |
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Location: NE Texas | If I were hypothetically breeding to sale prep and sale, Dash Ta Fame or ASOF will bring the most money. If i'm hypothetically breeding for one to ride myself or buy for myself, i'd choose the one you own, as I think that could be a really neat cross. |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-01-08 2:39 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-08 2:37 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-01-08 1:25 PM Dash Ta Fame. Second choice would be frozen of Firewater Flit. Either way it's frozen and if DTF is in the budget I think Firewater Flit would be to, if there is anymore semen to be had. I think DTF is $6000 and FWF is $20,000. or maybe FWF is only $10,000. But he quite a bit higher. I want one really bad :(
I'm pretty sure DTF is $7500 for 2015. |
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1- they never go out of style.
2- If, for whatever reason, they don't make the barrel pen you have LOTS of other avenues in which you can sell one. Hello roping pen???
3 - Color? people love a blonde!
2nd choice is ASOF.
1- sale price. they are dang easy to sell.
2- he's an all around sire as well, barrels/rope/mtd shooting/ etc.
3- color? everyone loves a roan!
just my 2 cents.... cuz I'm pretty sure I'll want her baby regaurdless of who you breed her to!
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| Whiteboy - 2015-01-08 3:44 PM Back of Lindsey, I got dibs.
It's Whiteboy official .... I have first dibs on the baby!!! yippeeee!!!!!
After picking up the weanling, I wonder if I just dropped it in the pasture how long it would take the SO to find it?? muahahahahahaha! It only took a month to notice I'd "borrowed" some of his tube socks for tail bags! |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-08 3:46 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-08 3:44 PM Back of Lindsey, I got dibs. It's Whiteboy official .... I have first dibs on the baby!!! yippeeee!!!!!
After picking up the weanling, I wonder if I just dropped it in the pasture how long it would take the SO to find it?? muahahahahahaha! It only took a month to notice I'd "borrowed" some of his tube socks for tail bags!
That's what I was thinking! Atleast a month before he notices. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-08 3:39 PM Frenchmans Guy.
1- they never go out of style.
2- If, for whatever reason, they don't make the barrel pen you have LOTS of other avenues in which you can sell one. Hello roping pen???
3 - Color? people love a blonde!
2nd choice is ASOF.
1- sale price. they are dang easy to sell.
2- he's an all around sire as well, barrels/rope/mtd shooting/ etc.
3- color? everyone loves a roan!
just my 2 cents.... cuz I'm pretty sure I'll want her baby regaurdless of who you breed her to!
For this mare I would flip that. ASOF before frenchmans guy. FG himself wont bring enough speed to the cow, but ASOF has proven over and over how good he is on cow. |
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Location: Montana | How about CS Flashlight? He could some speed! While I like ASOF, where you already have an own son of Streakin Six, I feel like you might as well cross that mare on him.
My first thought that came to mind was Dash Ta Fame. Oooor, maybe Dash For Perks as a second. |
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Location: Wisconsin | ThreeCorners - 2015-01-08 2:39 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-08 2:37 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-01-08 1:25 PM Dash Ta Fame. Second choice would be frozen of Firewater Flit. Either way it's frozen and if DTF is in the budget I think Firewater Flit would be to, if there is anymore semen to be had. I think DTF is $6000 and FWF is $20,000. or maybe FWF is only $10,000. But he quite a bit higher. I want one really bad :(
I would go for another Dash Ta Fame..2015 price is 7,500. They are very saleable, and i dont think they are going away any too soon..And most of all, I love training them! Hell they make an amateur look good  |
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Location: Where I am happiest | nettieb3 - 2015-01-08 9:47 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-01-08 2:39 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-08 2:37 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-01-08 1:25 PM Dash Ta Fame. Second choice would be frozen of Firewater Flit. Either way it's frozen and if DTF is in the budget I think Firewater Flit would be to, if there is anymore semen to be had. I think DTF is $6000 and FWF is $20,000. or maybe FWF is only $10,000. But he quite a bit higher. I want one really bad :(
I do agree. He is my #1 choice. Plus resell is always good and if you get a filly, your golden! Future broodmare deluxe!! |
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Location: Midwest | Herbie - 2015-01-08 2:39 PM If I were hypothetically breeding to sale prep and sale, Dash Ta Fame or ASOF will bring the most money. If i'm hypothetically breeding for one to ride myself or buy for myself, i'd choose the one you own, as I think that could be a really neat cross.
agree
I also like this, but then again I really like Happy
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| The reason I dont like the DTF Cross is that I look for something that can cross over to the roping pen. DTF's are not what barrel racers AND ropers are looking for, but I'm thinking of a stallion prospect...for me! |
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| Whiteboy - 2015-01-09 8:57 AM The reason I dont like the DTF Cross is that I look for something that can cross over to the roping pen. DTF's are not what barrel racers AND ropers are looking for, but I'm thinking of a stallion prospect...for me!
OK Whiteboy ... I"ll make a deal, If the foal is a stud colt, he's yours. If it's a filly, she's all mine. DEAL?? |
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| total performance - 2015-01-08 7:23 PM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-08 3:46 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-08 3:44 PM Back of Lindsey, I got dibs. It's Whiteboy official .... I have first dibs on the baby!!! yippeeee!!!!!
After picking up the weanling, I wonder if I just dropped it in the pasture how long it would take the SO to find it?? muahahahahahaha! It only took a month to notice I'd "borrowed" some of his tube socks for tail bags!
And it'll be little too ... SO I'm thinking that if I keep it in the back pasture with a couple of the boarded yearlings, he won't see it for at least a good couple of months as he doesn't have any reason to go back there!! This poor man ain't gonna see it coming! LOL. He'll be too busy with the calves and ewes lambing! PERFECT!  |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 9:07 AM total performance - 2015-01-08 7:23 PM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-08 3:46 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-08 3:44 PM Back of Lindsey, I got dibs. It's Whiteboy official .... I have first dibs on the baby!!! yippeeee!!!!!
After picking up the weanling, I wonder if I just dropped it in the pasture how long it would take the SO to find it?? muahahahahahaha! It only took a month to notice I'd "borrowed" some of his tube socks for tail bags!
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Ok, what do you all think of this one? He's a first year sire this year and has won over a million racing. His dam was a hard-knocking race mare.
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| So I've been thinking about this cross for a few days now. The problem is that the race people who know 5bar dont want the DOD. and the people who what the DOD probably wont recognize or be willing to pay the price you will need. I still think you're better to breed your other mare to 5bar. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I don't think I said that I'd be selling the foal. In fact, I'd hope greatly for a stud prospect at some point, but wouldn't mind a filly either. Now, if we got more than one from her, I'd probably be ok selling one, but she's older and I would like to keep that bloodline in my program somehow. |
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| If your plan is to keep the offspring then by all means breed how ya like!
ETA - Scorchy is getting older ... maybe breed to him to keep that streakin' six line in there too? I really like that idea .... hmmmm maybe flush her and breed one egg to scorcho and one egg to ASOF. Then, cross your fingers for filly's and breed the heck outa them? They'd be similar breeding with streakin' six on the top side, same bottom, and a little different mare line on the sire side ... hmmmm I like this idea more and more ...
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I really like him, but I'm thinking of the "whole package." I want it all lol. I want a barrel prospect, stud potential, marketablility, conformation, pedigree, etc. all rolled up into one super horse lol. |
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| I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help! |
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I saw a picture of the mare and she is beautiful! I think with both my choices you will get size and bone to exceed at anything! |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | got boost? - 2015-01-09 10:54 AM Judge Cash or Firewater Finale
I saw a picture of the mare and she is beautiful! I think with both my choices you will get size and bone to exceed at anything!
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 10:53 AM I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help!
I like your thinking. I'm certainly hoping for a few years left in her and hoping for a few flushes to a few different studs. Scorcho is getting first shot at her. I've got two of his daughters on the side burner and hope to include them in my broodmare band one day when they are finished working.....soooo, technically, I wouldn't necessarily want a colt from this cross. But, who knows lol. I'm trying to plan the future as well as the present and it's overwhelming to think about lol. I want something BA with this mare. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | In short, I'm trying to breed my own Dash ta Fame lol. |
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Location: Montana | Just try this cross on for size...his first foals I believe are 3 or 4 this year.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/hearts+for+lean+foal+2
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I think if you have the funds, you should just go straight to the source, and not a son of DTF.
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| LRQHS - 2015-01-09 11:07 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 10:53 AM I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help! I like your thinking. I'm certainly hoping for a few years left in her and hoping for a few flushes to a few different studs. Scorcho is getting first shot at her. I've got two of his daughters on the side burner and hope to include them in my broodmare band one day when they are finished working.....soooo, technically, I wouldn't necessarily want a colt from this cross. But, who knows lol. I'm trying to plan the future as well as the present and it's overwhelming to think about lol. I want something BA with this mare.
I completely understand. And, at this point while you are still building the program, I have found it to be the toughest part! Waiting for the babies to hit the ground can be frustrating. You could seriously speed it up by flushing and dropping several foals from that mare in the same year. You could pick a couple differnt stallions and drop maternal siblings on the ground to breed back to Scorcho ... hmmmmmm I like that idea too! Are they sexing equine embryos yet? I know that it is successfully done in the cattle and sheep industry .... |
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Location: Montana | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 11:49 AM LRQHS - 2015-01-09 11:07 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 10:53 AM I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help! I like your thinking. I'm certainly hoping for a few years left in her and hoping for a few flushes to a few different studs. Scorcho is getting first shot at her. I've got two of his daughters on the side burner and hope to include them in my broodmare band one day when they are finished working.....soooo, technically, I wouldn't necessarily want a colt from this cross. But, who knows lol. I'm trying to plan the future as well as the present and it's overwhelming to think about lol. I want something BA with this mare.
I'm not a breeder nor a scientist, but I don't think you can sex embryos as I believe the gender of the foal is determined by the stud. But perhaps I'm confused on that point. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 12:49 PM LRQHS - 2015-01-09 11:07 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 10:53 AM I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help! I like your thinking. I'm certainly hoping for a few years left in her and hoping for a few flushes to a few different studs. Scorcho is getting first shot at her. I've got two of his daughters on the side burner and hope to include them in my broodmare band one day when they are finished working.....soooo, technically, I wouldn't necessarily want a colt from this cross. But, who knows lol. I'm trying to plan the future as well as the present and it's overwhelming to think about lol. I want something BA with this mare.
I don't know about sexing. I'm totally new to ET. I think plans for next year will be to try to get a few from her. I'll have to save up. |
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| mtcanchazer - 2015-01-09 12:57 PM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 11:49 AM LRQHS - 2015-01-09 11:07 AM lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 10:53 AM I think I was coming from the livestock side of my brain where ya build a group of females who are real similarly bred. Then drop a stud on them that clicks and make lots of babies that you can sell and people want.
So, you have Scorcho already right? You have a program built around him to a degree and it is expanding like crazy. You'll soon have babies on the ground this next year and you have some of his babies already in some seriously capable hands .... I vote breed to Scorcho and promote the hell outa that program. He's nice and just bringing him more well bred mares is only going to help! I like your thinking. I'm certainly hoping for a few years left in her and hoping for a few flushes to a few different studs. Scorcho is getting first shot at her. I've got two of his daughters on the side burner and hope to include them in my broodmare band one day when they are finished working.....soooo, technically, I wouldn't necessarily want a colt from this cross. But, who knows lol. I'm trying to plan the future as well as the present and it's overwhelming to think about lol. I want something BA with this mare.
perhaps I should have said are they sexing equine semen. My bad, but I know when you flush a cow; you pull eggs, drop 'em in a dish, grab the correct sex of semen, mate them, watch 'em develop, then drop 'em in donors. (yes, I know it is more specific, that's just a rough outline of the work flow).
This is routinely done in the Dairy cattle industry as females are worth more. My ex-fiance did it with some beef cows (simmies) and my dad has done it with some ewes of ours ... I just wasn't sure if the equine industry was to that point yet  Must google ....... |
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Location: Montana | quikchik - 2015-01-09 12:12 PM I like pretty much any CC stud, so I think that is nice. I would go with something straight race, that is what I did for my cowbred.
I wasn't trying to be a know-it-all...that was just what I had hear. The whole embryo transfer, shipped semen thing is so above me...all I seem to see is $ signs, LOL. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | mtcanchazer - 2015-01-09 1:24 PM quikchik - 2015-01-09 12:12 PM I like pretty much any CC stud, so I think that is nice. I would go with something straight race, that is what I did for my cowbred.
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| mtcanchazer - 2015-01-09 1:24 PM quikchik - 2015-01-09 12:12 PM I like pretty much any CC stud, so I think that is nice. I would go with something straight race, that is what I did for my cowbred.
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Location: Wisconsin | LRQHS - 2015-01-09 11:16 AM I'd be ok with my own Easy Jet too.
My upcoming stallion is by Dash Ta Fame and out of a daughter of Frenchmans Guy. The dams momma was sired by Bully Bullion and produced 3 stakes winners. My husband does the race horse lines, so thats how he picked ours to be mixed in the petre dish |
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Total Germophobe
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Location: Montana | lindseylou2290 - 2015-01-09 1:12 PM mtcanchazer - 2015-01-09 1:24 PM quikchik - 2015-01-09 12:12 PM I like pretty much any CC stud, so I think that is nice. I would go with something straight race, that is what I did for my cowbred.
That's funny because I was trying to not sound like I was coming off the wrong way either. =) |
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 Thick and Wavy
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Location: Nebraska | Judge Cash would be my first pick as well. I'd also consider Perks Alive. He has also crossed well on cowbred mares. |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | OK,,,,,my most sound advice without writing a book. .........It's pretty hard to try to reinvent the wheel and correct me if I'm wrong but your trying to breed barrel horses correct? Certain families have been proven over and over and over again. While I agree I do not believe we have found all those families yet, we have found alot of them! Also, it's like breeding for the unicorn by trying to go to a son of a son of!!!! It's also very hard if the sire is young because why go to a son of when you can go to the source. I will also just through out there...ALOT of your futurity trainers do NOT like the Corona Cartels and like it or not, they can and will make or break your breeding program. So with that said....you have a golden opportunity right now, and I do mean right now. The futurities are going in AZ as we speak. Today is the second go of the Classic Equine. Next fri and sat is the Greg Olsen Memorial and the following weekend is Pac West and the final and last American Qualifier. WATCH THE WEBCASTS!!!! It cost $6.00 to get the full weekend each weekend. Starts at 9:00 each morning with the futurity. EVERY top futurity trainer in the nation is there!!! Watch, and study what they are riding as they do announce the pedigree of each horse. See what they are riding and how they do. Next, I would advise talking to those top futurity trainers and pick their brains. Again, they will make or break you. Go to www.321actionvideo.com and sign up for the live webcast. You have approx 30 minutes from right now untill the second go of the classic equine will run. Troy Crumrine, Talmadge Green, Kassie Mowrey, Jolene Montgomery, Latricia Duke, Pete Owen, and the list goes on and on are ALL there. |
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 More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | My vote is Frenchmans Guy and Stoli. I love stoli but couldn't afford him so I bred to Stoli My Heart instead. I love the filly I got. Now here's something I'm going to throw out there "hypothetically" that will get everyone riled up but I'm just curious. What about Clayton? How would he cross on a mare bred like yours? |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | CYA Ranch - 2015-01-10 10:05 AM My vote is Frenchmans Guy and Stoli. I love stoli but couldn't afford him so I bred to Stoli My Heart instead. I love the filly I got. Now here's something I'm going to throw out there "hypothetically" that will get everyone riled up but I'm just curious. What about Clayton? How would he cross on a mare bred like yours?
Clayton #1 has no reg. papers and #2, has yet to prove he's a sire. I'll also throw out there if she's breeding for her own elite sire, she should be looking to the fountainheads and those who have proven to #1 be a sire, and #2 ( Ideally) be a sire of sires.
What about Tres Seis himself? They are liking them.
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More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | ThreeCorners - 2015-01-10 10:28 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-01-10 10:05 AM My vote is Frenchmans Guy and Stoli. I love stoli but couldn't afford him so I bred to Stoli My Heart instead. I love the filly I got. Now here's something I'm going to throw out there "hypothetically" that will get everyone riled up but I'm just curious. What about Clayton? How would he cross on a mare bred like yours? Clayton #1 has no reg. papers and #2, has yet to prove he's a sire. I'll also throw out there if she's breeding for her own elite sire, she should be looking to the fountainheads and those who have proven to #1 be a sire, and #2 ( Ideally) be a sire of sires.
What about Tres Seis himself? They are liking them.
I understand that, I'm not an idiot I was just asking Jennifer her opinion. |
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Ok...let's hypothetical breed....