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Location: USA | What's the difference between Equivibe, Equibodyflo, and Pony Plate? |
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| I'll finish your sentence. Are mostly gimmicks. My sister is a doctor of physical therapy and vibration therapy has been labeled as a no no because it can do more harm than good if you have problems it will agitate. Increasing blood flow yes it will help but who knows what else your hurting at the same time. It's just a fad. |
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Location: North Dakota | I think the question is is there any science behind any of them? I don't understand how vibrations would be helpful in any way. |
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Location: midwest mama | astreakinchic - 2015-01-17 12:09 PM
I'll finish your sentence. Are mostly gimmicks. My sister is a doctor of physical therapy and vibration therapy has been labeled as a no no because it can do more harm than good if you have problems it will agitate. Increasing blood flow yes it will help but who knows what else your hurting at the same time. It's just a fad.
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Location: Texas | I will say, the one time I used a theraplate my horses time increased by 1/2 a second. One time I got a concussion at a race and the people stalled next to me had a theraplate and they let me lay down on the theraplate for 20 minutes and it made a HUGE difference. From what I've seen people either love them or hate them and I for one will say I love them. You need to know what you're using them for and if your horse has any problems it may be worsening like other have stated. As for the brands you mentioned I have never used any of them. I only have first hand experience with the Theraplate. |
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Location: Wisconsin | Im not totally sold on them, but then i havent dont my homework and educated myself either way....I will tell you that I tried that excersise Shaker Belt that goes around my ARSE and it didnt do a thing! anyone remember those? |
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Location: Wisconsin | Outrundaizy...I am educated on the fact that you shouldnt use a theraplate when you have a concusion. Not good to shake up what been shook up. Glad you feel well  |
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Location: midwest mama | Outrundaizy -
If you had a concussion, whomever put you on a Theraplate was totally wrong to do so.
If you would have had a brain bleed, the Theraplate could have made more blood come to the area (as they are supposed to increase circulation) and it could have been detrimental.
It makes me totally crazy when these companies who make these therapy products do not educate their people about how to use them properly....and when NOT to use them. No wonder veterinarians have a bad taste in their mouths when it comes to people doing their own therapy on their animals. |
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Location: Bigfoot Country | Here's a brief description of Theraplate. I know that their plate vibrates in a circular motion, and that's why it's different than
the others.
"TheraPlate is similar in some small ways to many of the Whole Body Vibration (WBV) technologies that are gaining in popularity. But, there are many important differences between our patented technology and all the others. Our machines and their proprietary 4 Zone Vortex Wave design and operation are the result of more than 30 years of working with this same technology in the treatment and prevention of injuries and other debilitating conditions in Horses, and Humans. Our machines offers a ZERO impact experience, so you get the benefits without further injury or aggravating existing conditions. "
Here's a link to one of many studies done on this technology. I chose this one because it was about women and osteoporosis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15040822
I just got one, and every horse I have put on it falls asleep! lol They love it. I stand on it and I will say my back and hip pain do seem better. I stand a lot at work and it seems to take the fatigue away.
I also like the fact that it is ONE treatment, that treats the WHOLE body at once.
Inflammation is the issue, and every boot, blanket, wrap, machine etc. used for therapy is mostly used to increase circulation and decrease inflammation. Theraplate is easy to do, the horse loves it, and it treats the whole horse at once.
I give it a thumbs up!
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Location: Texas | ...are gathering dust in the barns. Another gimmick. Most people I knew had them have sold them. A ride in the trailer is vibration enough |
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Location: North Dakota | 3rdtimesacharm - 2015-01-19 11:11 AM ...are gathering dust in the barns. Another gimmick. Most people I knew had them have sold them. A ride in the trailer is vibration enough
This is an excellent point, maybe I will stay on the "slow" side and keep my non air ride trailer and think of it as "therapy" for my horses! Maybe we could put together a line of "therapy trailers" and make billions.
Sorry OP, I hope you get some answers, I've never been around any of the therapies you're asking about. |
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Location: ND | I've put my shooting horse on a Theraplate a couple times. I don't know if I'm sold on the therapy or not. My horse loved it, fell asleep standing there and he's NOT a quiet horse that typically stands around relaxed. I do think it's something that you'd need to use regularily to have results of any significance. I would have to use it a lot more & do more research before I decided either way. I just know my horse did like it. And it is NOT the same as a vibrating trailer!!!! |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | my chiro has one in his office for ppl.......and i had a wipe out last year and have a problem with my sciatica and lena fell and really messed up that and my hip...there was a couple jackpot i needed help getting off........ and after a few adjustments and accu, he put me on his vibration plate, i didn't think it would help but it did (i thought it would be painful, it wasn't)....so i can see where this type of therapy could be helpfull.........................
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| Don't waste your money.
A horse is a horse. Keep it simple and get back to the basics of care and your horse will thrive. |
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| mruggles - 2015-01-19 11:34 AM my chiro has one in his office for ppl.......and i had a wipe out last year and have a problem with my sciatica and lena fell and really messed up that and my hip...there was a couple jackpot i needed help getting off........ and after a few adjustments and accu, he put me on his vibration plate, i didn't think it would help but it did (i thought it would be painful, it wasn't)....so i can see where this type of therapy could be helpfull.........................
m It may not have felt so good if you hadn't first had the adjustments and acupuncture. If you have a sublaxated joint it will be easily irritated with vibration. Maybe that's why some horses love this and some don't, maybe the people who use them should be the trained chiros who know when it's appropriate to use vibration therapy. I agree with the poster that said these therapy devices are often sold from and bought by untrained, uncertified, self-proclaimed "therapists." eta: The story about the gal with the concussion getting "treated" with one is a great example of that.
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | trickster j - 2015-01-20 11:46 AM
mruggles - 2015-01-19 11:34 AM my chiro has one in his office for ppl.......and i had a wipe out last year and have a problem with my sciatica and lena fell and really messed up that and my hip...there was a couple jackpot i needed help getting off........ and after a few adjustments and accu, he put me on his vibration plate, i didn't think it would help but it did (i thought it would be painful, it wasn't)....so i can see where this type of therapy could be helpfull.........................
m It may not have felt so good if you hadn't first had the adjustments and acupuncture. If you have a sublaxated joint it will be easily irritated with vibration. Maybe that's why some horses love this and some don't, maybe the people who use them should be the trained chiros who know when it's appropriate to use vibration therapy. I agree with the poster that said these therapy devices are often sold from and bought by untrained, uncertified, self-proclaimed "therapists." eta: The story about the gal with the concussion getting "treated" with one is a great example of that.
in the right hands i can see them be helpfull ....and i had a concussion from that fall i had, i still dont remember a good part of that day and i ran a2nd horse...........and the last thing i would have wanted was to be vibrated, i was fighting bad nausea......so i very much agree with you guys on that.................
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| I stood on one and it was not comfortable. It was 4 years ago, so I know they have improved them. I had an excellent vet tell me the only thing it was good for was to warm up the muscles on your horse. He wasn't impressed at all. |
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Location: Mountains of VA | banjomia - 2015-01-19 12:42 PM Don't waste your money. A horse is a horse. Keep it simple and get back to the basics of care and your horse will thrive.
This^^^ I wonder if a hour or two of a walking trail ride would be more helpful to both horse and rider. I vote for longer warmups and cooldowns at a walk. |
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Location: Texas | I'm not sold on them. |
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Location: North Dakota | SaraJean - 2015-01-19 12:32 PM I've put my shooting horse on a Theraplate a couple times. I don't know if I'm sold on the therapy or not. My horse loved it, fell asleep standing there and he's NOT a quiet horse that typically stands around relaxed. I do think it's something that you'd need to use regularily to have results of any significance. I would have to use it a lot more & do more research before I decided either way. I just know my horse did like it. And it is NOT the same as a vibrating trailer!!!!
Just to clear the air, I was being VERY sarcastic at my comments, please don't think I'm an idiot. |
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Location: ND | LMS - 2015-01-19 1:48 PM SaraJean - 2015-01-19 12:32 PM I've put my shooting horse on a Theraplate a couple times. I don't know if I'm sold on the therapy or not. My horse loved it, fell asleep standing there and he's NOT a quiet horse that typically stands around relaxed. I do think it's something that you'd need to use regularily to have results of any significance. I would have to use it a lot more & do more research before I decided either way. I just know my horse did like it. And it is NOT the same as a vibrating trailer!!!! Just to clear the air, I was being VERY sarcastic at my comments, please don't think I'm an idiot.
oh, I know, wasn't directed at anyone in particular :) I've just seen it posted so many times on these discussions that if vibration is good then why buy air ride trailers & what not.... |
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Location: midwest mama | trickster j - 2015-01-19 12:46 PM
mruggles - 2015-01-19 11:34 AM my chiro has one in his office for ppl.......and i had a wipe out last year and have a problem with my sciatica and lena fell and really messed up that and my hip...there was a couple jackpot i needed help getting off........ and after a few adjustments and accu, he put me on his vibration plate, i didn't think it would help but it did (i thought it would be painful, it wasn't)....so i can see where this type of therapy could be helpfull.........................
m It may not have felt so good if you hadn't first had the adjustments and acupuncture. If you have a sublaxated joint it will be easily irritated with vibration. Maybe that's why some horses love this and some don't, maybe the people who use them should be the trained chiros who know when it's appropriate to use vibration therapy. I agree with the poster that said these therapy devices are often sold from and bought by untrained, uncertified, self-proclaimed "therapists." eta: The story about the gal with the concussion getting "treated" with one is a great example of that.
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | I currently own one and have for a couple of years. I have horses who love it and relax on it and others who Will NOT relax on it. The specific horse it was purchased for takes two people to keep him on the flippin thing. It's a pain in my butt and currently collects dust. I've tried selling it to no avail- most people in Illinois have no idea what it is. So I've got a 5k dust collector in our barn haha |
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| FirstFirewater - 2015-01-19 7:54 PM I currently own one and have for a couple of years. I have horses who love it and relax on it and others who Will NOT relax on it. The specific horse it was purchased for takes two people to keep him on the flippin thing. It's a pain in my butt and currently collects dust. I've tried selling it to no avail- most people in Illinois have no idea what it is. So I've got a 5k dust collector in our barn haha
Interesting- it looks like the horse you bought it for has issues that become aggravated with the vibration- good example of how it may feel good to a healthy horse, but not to a horse with existing pain. I have arthritis in my neck and low back- when I stood on one a long time ago it really hurt me too- I hated it. I pity the horses who are forced into stocks or trailer partitions with no other place to stand but on the dang thing.  |
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Location: USA | I agree that it depends on the injury on whether or not it will help or harm the horse. I do know they use vibration plates in the rehab setting for people, especially stroke patients. There have also been studies on using them for bedridden patients with success in increasing muscle strength. I know of a few well respected sports medicine vets that have them in their facility. Do I think any horse can get on them? No. But I do think with certain injuries/situations they can be beneficial. I also agree, though, that there are some who will put a horse on it not knowing the injury and therefore can unintentionally further exacerbate the underlying issue. However, I think once the horse has been cleared for it then it should be ok. Horses don't lie when it comes to something they like or dislike. If it feels good to them, they will let you know and vice versa. |
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Location: Louisiana | barrelrider - 2015-01-19 1:30 PM I stood on one and it was not comfortable. It was 4 years ago, so I know they have improved them. I had an excellent vet tell me the only thing it was good for was to warm up the muscles on your horse. He wasn't impressed at all.
My leg vet said he owns one and the only thing it does is give him bad gas LOL |
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Location: Utah | I tried a 1 month demo of the Theraplate. I personally could lay on it or sit on a chair and put my feet on it, but if I stood on it, I got headaches. While I had it, I put about everything I owned on it however, I was really only riding 2 horses so those are the only ones I can talk about. I had a horse who had an undiagnosed injury (I knew something was off we just couldn't find it) for her, it was a really good thing. She really started to work while she was being put on it. She was great to stand on it for the first 2 weeks or so, but then was harder to keep on it. She is also an ADHD horse so that could have contributed to not staying on it, she wanted to fidget and play with stuff. My other horse HATED it. I had to use a chain to keep him on, and even @ that he would last 10 minutes max. He was tense the whole time, and after 10 min, he would literally bolt off it. Now, he is a more "sensitive" horse, but while I was treating him, his performance went down. In fact, he ran off 2 times with me. Took him off it, 2 weeks later he went back to running in the 1D. I have very mixed feeling because of what I saw with my horses. I think for some it may be good and work well, for others, I don't think it works @ all. |
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All these horse vibration plates . . .