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Location: East Tennessee | I am having the worst time finding AQHA shows with barrel racing and finding riders to show my horse. I need to get my horse's ROM. Can anyone suggest some good riders/trainers in KY, TN, VA, NC, SC, GA and AL that run AQHA?
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| No money so no riders come. Its tough finding enough in a class to actually get points too. Talk to the TNQHA and find out which shows last year they had the most entries at and enter him there. You can probably get enough points for a ROM yourself on him. Its not hard to get in this area.
You won't find a trainer for barrels that wants to go to any shows around here except for congress and thats mainly just for sweeps. |
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Location: East Tennessee | astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 10:17 AM
No money so no riders come. Its tough finding enough in a class to actually get points too. Talk to the TNQHA and find out which shows last year they had the most entries at and enter him there. You can probably get enough points for a ROM yourself on him. Its not hard to get in this area.
You won't find a trainer for barrels that wants to go to any shows around here except for congress and thats mainly just for sweeps.
No barrels in the east TN aqha shows. |
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| sparky16 - 2015-01-20 10:25 AM
astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 10:17 AM
No money so no riders come. Its tough finding enough in a class to actually get points too. Talk to the TNQHA and find out which shows last year they had the most entries at and enter him there. You can probably get enough points for a ROM yourself on him. Its not hard to get in this area.
You won't find a trainer for barrels that wants to go to any shows around here except for congress and thats mainly just for sweeps.
No barrels in the east TN aqha shows.
If you will call and talk to a trainer of someone in their group they will create a class for it. They only have a class for it if they know they will have entries. Most of the time they add classes the day of the show because one of those girls needs some all-around points.
Brandy McDonnell at blue point might be able to get enough entries to get you a class. give her a call
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | I ran a couple of AQHA shows at Harrimann the last couple of years and all we had were 3-4 entries. May have had 5 in one. But what can you expect when it costs you $100. That's sad when you've got 100 entries at NBHA at the same arena. They need to co-sanction.....Might be something for the new state director to work on.
Ducky Keller in Virginia and Marne Loosenort in Ky are the closest ones that I know of but my guess is that they have to haul pretty far to run anywhere with enough entries.
TQHA is active in east TN but it is mostly pleasure. Might want to look up Jennifer Butcher and see where she runs AQHA. She lives in northeast Tn. There just hasn't been interest in the speed events and I think it's due to cost. |
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Location: East Tennessee | astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 10:31 AM
sparky16 - 2015-01-20 10:25 AM
astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 10:17 AM
No money so no riders come. Its tough finding enough in a class to actually get points too. Talk to the TNQHA and find out which shows last year they had the most entries at and enter him there. You can probably get enough points for a ROM yourself on him. Its not hard to get in this area.
You won't find a trainer for barrels that wants to go to any shows around here except for congress and thats mainly just for sweeps.
No barrels in the east TN aqha shows.
If you will call and talk to a trainer of someone in their group they will create a class for it. They only have a class for it if they know they will have entries. Most of the time they add classes the day of the show because one of those girls needs some all-around points.
Brandy McDonnell at blue point might be able to get enough entries to get you a class. give her a call
Is she on FB? How do I get ahold of her? |
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| Yes she has fb and TNQHA has fb. You can also google her and get a number. She is pleasure and halter but can give you information and help you find people to fill the class.
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Location: Piedmont, OK | I have the hardest time figuring out the AQHA shows in my area. I am in OK so I go to OQHA website to look first. |
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| Everytime I'va contacted tham about a barrel or pole class at Harriman TQHA, they say they won't have one. Do they change their mind the day of the show ? I know of several people across TN that have contacted TQHA and WTQHA about barrel classes and the associations are alway against adding them. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 9:31 AM sparky16 - 2015-01-20 10:25 AM astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 10:17 AM No money so no riders come. Its tough finding enough in a class to actually get points too. Talk to the TNQHA and find out which shows last year they had the most entries at and enter him there. You can probably get enough points for a ROM yourself on him. Its not hard to get in this area. You won't find a trainer for barrels that wants to go to any shows around here except for congress and thats mainly just for sweeps. No barrels in the east TN aqha shows. If you will call and talk to a trainer of someone in their group they will create a class for it. They only have a class for it if they know they will have entries. Most of the time they add classes the day of the show because one of those girls needs some all-around points. Brandy McDonnell at blue point might be able to get enough entries to get you a class. give her a call
I judge a lot of Brandy's students at shows. She's got pleasure and ranch youth that show at open shows and AQHA. Last year I think I saw a couple of her kids run in barrels for fun so I'm sure she'd have a few to go in the AM classes.
Carol Hodge has some students as well so I would talk to her. She's in Friendsville. Not sure if Heather Mooney has AQHA students but she's another one that I would contact since she has a big lesson program and she has several students that also run barrels. |
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Location: NC | sparky16 - 2015-01-19 8:34 PM
I am having the worst time finding AQHA shows with barrel racing and finding riders to show my horse. I need to get my horse's ROM. Can anyone suggest some good riders/trainers in KY, TN, VA, NC, SC, GA and AL that run AQHA?
We have a few here that will go to Congress. There are a few local AQHA shows that do offer barrels and poles. Not many entries in each class, but they do offer the classes. No money so no real following. That and they're not cheap to enter just for a 0.5 point.
A few big trainers will run AQHA shows but usually only the bigger shows. Or just enough to get to run at the World show.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 9:31 AM sparky16 - 2015-01-20 10:25 AM astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 10:17 AM No money so no riders come. Its tough finding enough in a class to actually get points too. Talk to the TNQHA and find out which shows last year they had the most entries at and enter him there. You can probably get enough points for a ROM yourself on him. Its not hard to get in this area. You won't find a trainer for barrels that wants to go to any shows around here except for congress and thats mainly just for sweeps. No barrels in the east TN aqha shows. If you will call and talk to a trainer of someone in their group they will create a class for it. They only have a class for it if they know they will have entries. Most of the time they add classes the day of the show because one of those girls needs some all-around points. Brandy McDonnell at blue point might be able to get enough entries to get you a class. give her a call
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| NJJ - 2015-01-20 1:41 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 9:31 AM sparky16 - 2015-01-20 10:25 AM astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 10:17 AM No money so no riders come. Its tough finding enough in a class to actually get points too. Talk to the TNQHA and find out which shows last year they had the most entries at and enter him there. You can probably get enough points for a ROM yourself on him. Its not hard to get in this area. You won't find a trainer for barrels that wants to go to any shows around here except for congress and thats mainly just for sweeps. No barrels in the east TN aqha shows. If you will call and talk to a trainer of someone in their group they will create a class for it. They only have a class for it if they know they will have entries. Most of the time they add classes the day of the show because one of those girls needs some all-around points. Brandy McDonnell at blue point might be able to get enough entries to get you a class. give her a call
As far as I know as long as you can get enough people at the show together to have the class they will have the class. I've been at the shows were people come up and beg others to enter to have enough to fill the class for points. Whether it be barrels, performance halter, etc... |
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| Does anyone know what kind of hoops a producer would have to jump through to have an AQHA class at an existing 4D? Can it be run concurrently as a sidepot and earn points like a 'straight' barrel race? I'm assuming an AQHA approved judge would need to be paid to be there. I know it's been done, just how do you make it happen? Is it cost prohibitive? |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | bennie1 - 2015-01-20 1:43 PM Does anyone know what kind of hoops a producer would have to jump through to have an AQHA class at an existing 4D? Can it be run concurrently as a sidepot and earn points like a 'straight' barrel race? I'm assuming an AQHA approved judge would need to be paid to be there. I know it's been done, just how do you make it happen? Is it cost prohibitive?
They have the requirements for shows in the AQHA handbook- I haven't looked to see what they are. I'm thinking they have to sign off or approve it as well. I would think a judge would have to officiate. Just guessing that would run $200-500. Rental fee for Roane State is $600 per 18 hour day. And I'm betting you have to have stall facilities, etc in order to have a show. It would be cheapest to have it during the circuit. That way you wouldn't have to foot all the costs. |
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bennie1 - 2015-01-20 1:43 PM Does anyone know what kind of hoops a producer would have to jump through to have an AQHA class at an existing 4D? Can it be run concurrently as a sidepot and earn points like a 'straight' barrel race? I'm assuming an AQHA approved judge would need to be paid to be there. I know it's been done, just how do you make it happen? Is it cost prohibitive?
They have the requirements for shows in the AQHA handbook- I haven't looked to see what they are. I'm thinking they have to sign off or approve it as well. I would think a judge would have to officiate. Just guessing that would run $200-500. Rental fee for Roane State is $600 per 18 hour day. And I'm betting you have to have stall facilities, etc in order to have a show. It would be cheapest to have it during the circuit. That way you wouldn't have to foot all the costs.
Another thing you must think about is their bit, drug, and humane rules and I'm pretty sure you must have two judges because of these rules. As a producer you will not make any friends or get any money back, it will only hurt or completely take away your added money.
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | If you do a Google search "AQHA show approval " there's a form they use. The show fees start out at $150 for less than 249 entries; 250-499 entries costs $250; there's also late fees of $200-400 if you schedule it less than 90 days and even a $1,000 fee if less than $30 or its denied. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 2:03 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-20 2:56 PM bennie1 - 2015-01-20 1:43 PM Does anyone know what kind of hoops a producer would have to jump through to have an AQHA class at an existing 4D? Can it be run concurrently as a sidepot and earn points like a 'straight' barrel race? I'm assuming an AQHA approved judge would need to be paid to be there. I know it's been done, just how do you make it happen? Is it cost prohibitive? They have the requirements for shows in the AQHA handbook- I haven't looked to see what they are. I'm thinking they have to sign off or approve it as well. I would think a judge would have to officiate. Just guessing that would run $200-500. Rental fee for Roane State is $600 per 18 hour day. And I'm betting you have to have stall facilities, etc in order to have a show. It would be cheapest to have it during the circuit. That way you wouldn't have to foot all the costs. Another thing you must think about is their bit, drug, and humane rules and I'm pretty sure you must have two judges because of these rules. As a producer you will not make any friends or get any money back, it will only hurt or completely take away your added money.
You could make money on your own but only if you did it at a super show level, not a local AQHA / monthly NBHA level. |
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Location: East Tennessee | Fairweather - 2015-01-20 3:11 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 2:03 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-20 2:56 PM bennie1 - 2015-01-20 1:43 PM Does anyone know what kind of hoops a producer would have to jump through to have an AQHA class at an existing 4D? Can it be run concurrently as a sidepot and earn points like a 'straight' barrel race? I'm assuming an AQHA approved judge would need to be paid to be there. I know it's been done, just how do you make it happen? Is it cost prohibitive? They have the requirements for shows in the AQHA handbook- I haven't looked to see what they are. I'm thinking they have to sign off or approve it as well. I would think a judge would have to officiate. Just guessing that would run $200-500. Rental fee for Roane State is $600 per 18 hour day. And I'm betting you have to have stall facilities, etc in order to have a show. It would be cheapest to have it during the circuit. That way you wouldn't have to foot all the costs. Another thing you must think about is their bit, drug, and humane rules and I'm pretty sure you must have two judges because of these rules. As a producer you will not make any friends or get any money back, it will only hurt or completely take away your added money.
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | sparky16 - 2015-01-20 2:30 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-20 3:11 PM astreakinchic - 2015-01-20 2:03 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-20 2:56 PM bennie1 - 2015-01-20 1:43 PM Does anyone know what kind of hoops a producer would have to jump through to have an AQHA class at an existing 4D? Can it be run concurrently as a sidepot and earn points like a 'straight' barrel race? I'm assuming an AQHA approved judge would need to be paid to be there. I know it's been done, just how do you make it happen? Is it cost prohibitive? They have the requirements for shows in the AQHA handbook- I haven't looked to see what they are. I'm thinking they have to sign off or approve it as well. I would think a judge would have to officiate. Just guessing that would run $200-500. Rental fee for Roane State is $600 per 18 hour day. And I'm betting you have to have stall facilities, etc in order to have a show. It would be cheapest to have it during the circuit. That way you wouldn't have to foot all the costs. Another thing you must think about is their bit, drug, and humane rules and I'm pretty sure you must have two judges because of these rules. As a producer you will not make any friends or get any money back, it will only hurt or completely take away your added money. Last year for NBHA to rent Harriman was $1200 mut have changed.
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| AQHA is a train wreck. They do not want speed horses. I used to put ROM's on everything. Now the only AQHA we go to is Quarter Horse Congress in Columbus, OH. We only run the Sweepstakes. You have to have their Judge's. Extremely expensive to do. With their bit rules, drug rules, general rules etc. you can get your self fined,expelled or put on probation . The easiest way to get and ROM is to find a trainer in Oklahoma to help you.
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Location: East Tennessee | Well if it's so ridiculous they shouldn't even have appendix papers and just give regulars. This is all very disheartening. |
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Location: TN | If you want to your R.O.M in AQHA, try going to the N.A.L.E in louisville KY. I have done this for SEVERAL mares. the amateur class is $ 75 which INCLUDES a stall. you can show in any ama class for one money.
There are NO shows in TN to get aqha points & its SUCKS.
between the N.A.I.L.E, the Dixies in Jackson,Ms. & Fort Worth, Tx. is where i get my R.O.M's and Superiors. My home state has never helped or produced a SINGLE AQHA point. ( Stupid TN.)
The state of Tn does not want to help speed horses and its just plain WRONG I challenge them to correct this!!!!!! ha fat chance
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| You have to have 10 open points to get an ROM to change Appendix papers to regular. The Amateur or youth is no good. That is one reason you need to race Appendix horses to change them to full registry... |
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Location: Winging It in KY | bennie1 - 2015-01-20 2:43 PM Does anyone know what kind of hoops a producer would have to jump through to have an AQHA class at an existing 4D? Can it be run concurrently as a sidepot and earn points like a 'straight' barrel race? I'm assuming an AQHA approved judge would need to be paid to be there. I know it's been done, just how do you make it happen? Is it cost prohibitive?
We have a few Open 4D / AQHA / KYQHA / NPHA shows around Louisville, KY. There is also a girl in Princeton IN that has them too. Kind of a neat idea. I am planning on trying to attend some this summer . I will try to attach a show bill for you to see how it is set up.
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Location: East Tennessee | PocoMystic - 2015-01-21 11:44 AM
You have to have 10 open points to get an ROM to change Appendix papers to regular. The Amateur or youth is no good. That is one reason you need to race Appendix horses to change them to full registry...
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| sparky16 - 2015-01-21 3:56 PM Why is amateur no good? My stud is 10 this year so probably not gonna get him entered in racing.
If you are serious about getting your stud full AQHA papers, and I hope you are so that the offspring won't be appendix registered, then you need to get him into an open class and if your not wanting to do this yourself then send him to someone who can get his ROM on him. You will probably need to choose an AQHA person as no barrel trainer really wants any part of paying the entry fees, putting up with the drug rules, the bit rules, and the judges take on humane treatment. I strongly recommend getting in with someone in the TNQHA to help you find the best shows where large entries are likely, get people to enter the class, and help you.
Below everything you need to do is outlined:
REG104.2 previously has been listed in the Appendix, and the following conditions are met: (1) the horse has qualified for Register of Merit in AQHA-approved events not restricted in any way (youth and/or amateur Register of Merit do not qualify a horse for advancement); (2) AQHA has received a signed statement from a licensed veterinarian certifying that the horse does not have a parrot mouth per REG109.1 and (3) if the horse is a stallion, AQHA has received a signed state- ment from a licensed veterinarian certifying it is not cryptorchid per REG109.2. Horses having parrot mouth, cryptorchidism, HYPP or excessive white markings are not eligible for advance- ment. When a horse is advanced, it is necessary to surrender the registration certificate before a Numbered certificate can be issued.
?REG104.3 was previously listed in the Appendix and attains a
registration number, any offspring listed in the Appendix shall on
that date become eligible for advancement to the Numbered
registry. Advancement of such offspring to the Numbered registry shall be on request from the record owner and accompanied by the Appendix registration certificate, or
REG104.4 was foaled in an international country having a Quarter Horse Association recog- nized by the AQHA that operates its own stud book; was issued a registration certificate by such international association; and which traces to a minimum of 93.75 percent (15/16) lineage to horses issued Numbered registration certificates by AQHA. To receive such Numbered certificate from AQHA, the horse’s owner must make application through the recognized international asso- ciation in the country he resides to supply AQHA all required proof of breeding and identification. Registration fee shall be $35, or $75 if owner does not have a current membership |
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