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 Career in Looney Tune Land
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Location: the high desert | So long story short there is a very nice looking, well broke gelding sitting at the feed lot waiting to ship to slaughter because he has navicular and be just tugs at my heart strings. But I am trying to be smart about this and realisticly what would I be looking at as far as rehab time and cost to "fix" a navicular horse? Is there any chance that a navicular horse could be sound enough again to do barrels or actha rides or mounted shooting etc...? Or are they pretty much destined to be a pasture pet/kids horse? Am I a complete moron for even considering this? For anyone that is curious or is willing to save him here is his posting http://auctionhorses.net/thread/15368/big-jet-quarter-horse-gelding |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | Depends, I had a national-level dressage horse who competed at that level with navicular until he was close to 20. He'd had it much of his life. Great and timely farrier work made all the difference in the world. I had another massive appendix-bred, 17.3 and he also had it. He was a show jumper and a puissance horse, he had to stop competing at that level by the time he was 10-11, but remained a great horse for anything with less concussion. Mine were never on meds...a great farrier and making sure they were never overdue.
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Location: lone star state | I would take a chance on him. Wish he were close to me. There is a new drug called osphos. It was approved last oct. Dr harvey at outlaw equine is seeing great improvement in navicular horses. Also lots can be done with corrective shoing. |
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Location: Lala Land | This breaks my heart. I have a navicular horse, diagnosed mild/mod navicular. It has definitely being a learning experience and can costly. Depending on where you get the previcox, it's about $160 for 120 days (at 1/2 pill of 227mg), depending on if/what you have injected can run up more $, I think the Osphos has been said to run about $250- $500 a dose and may work up to 6 mos, the biggest thing for us was getting his shoeing lined out. I'm lucky to have a phenomenal vet and we've had good success w/ how he's been treated so far. |
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Location: So. Cali. | Wow. How unforunate for that poor gelding. I have a coming 17yr old gelding who was diagnosed with Navicular changes about 8 years ago. He has a hole that was starting to form on his right navicular bone, 3 bone spurs on his right and 2 on his left navicular bones. He lives in magnetic bell boots, gets Previcox ( 1/4 of a pill every other day, 1/2 a pill night before and day of races) , Glucosmine shots prior to races, BOT leg wraps, and is running barefoot. As another poster said the number one thing that helped him was getting his feet right (angles mostly). He is sound barefoot, and I like to leave him barefoot because he can wear them down as be pleases ( he creates his own square toe for break over). We tried the shoeing techniques, pads, wedges, rocker shoe, natural balance, etc. Nothing made a difference as much as just getting his feet trimmed properly. I'd say if you had the funds and the place for him, he'd be worth the chance.
ETA: Once his feet were comfortable again in the front his hocks came up sore in the back from compensating so those usually are done every 6 months.
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  Northern Chocolate Queen
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Location: ND | Honestly, as cold as this may sound I'd pass. His purchase price is cheap enough but he's a grade crippled gelding, he may or may not ever be sound enough to do more than pack a kid around at a walk. Maintenance on him will likely be expensive. Mounted shooting & barrels are both very physically demanding sports. If he was already proven to be a winner at them I could understand wanting to pick him up cheap, maintain him & keep him winning. But as a prospect for those sports I wouldn't take the chance. |
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| I have 3 young navicular horses standing in my pasture that are not rideable. Lots of money and time trying to maintain them, but there is only so much that can be done. One is actually diagnosed as do not ride except for occasional light walking due to the damage the navicular bone caused to the flexor tendon. The others I just decided it wasn't worth it to try to make them work in pain, not to mention the money.
These horses will stand in my pasture until they are no longer comfortable at which time they will be euthanized. But I would never knowingly purchase a navicular horse regardless of the price. It's just too big of a gamble. I know some horses are able to be maintained for years, but that has not been my experience. And I've hauled a lot of miles to get to vets that are experienced. |
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Location: Piedmont, OK | I have a 19 yr old with Navicular on the front foot that toes in a little. She gets 4 scoops of Animal Element Performance Detox (2 scoops morning and 2 in the evening), and she wears Back on Track bell boots pretty much 24/7 and is sound and still running competitively. She is on a strict 6 weeks schedule with the farrier. |
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Location: Central Texas | I have been fortunate with mine. Was diagnosed 5 or 6 years ago. Did Tildren (and do once a year maintenance treatments) and he is still running competetively. Going to try the newest drug Osphos for his yearly maintenance treatment this time just to see if I notice a difference. |
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Career in Looney Tune Land
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Location: the high desert | Thank you everyone for your input. As much as I hate to say this, I'm going to have to turn and walk away. It makes me sick knowing his fate but I just don't think I can take the financial risk right now and my gut says no. I really hope someone will take a chance on him. |
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Sock Snob
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| If you get him and get a good farrier to him see how he does and maybe some cheap xrays. You mite fix him and he might be broker than u think. If he could trail ride you could always find a home. Just watch your pocketbook. |
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| Wish he was closer. I'd take a chance on him. |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | I was able to get the low down on the horse straight from the horses mouth, the past owner. This horse is NOT navicular. The horse does have papers. He is by a Grulla, King Fritz/Imperial One bred stud and out of a Ettabo mare. The past owner is a team roper. The horse has had extensive training, has a great handle, and is very gentle. Kids have rode him alot, he's been in the hills, been hunting, had 6 months with a cutting horse trainer and was used as a turn back horse, and has won quite a bit of money in the team roping pen. The horse has some calcification to a ligiment which with the right re-hab I believe can be fixed. He is not navicular at all. The guy was just not in a position to keep the horse and has a very sick daughter. I believe using a magnetic pulse machine, or some refere to as a P-3, and using Nutra-wound, you could get him sound, and I do mean sound.
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Location: Kentucky | He is a good looking horse. His feet like good too. Hopefully someone will read ThreeCorners post and go and get him. |
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Career in Looney Tune Land
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Location: the high desert | Oh wow. That's awesome ThreeCorners. How did they get that he has navicular? |
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Location: Kentucky | Iwish - 2015-01-21 1:14 PM Oh wow. That's awesome ThreeCorners. How did they get that he has navicular?
I think a lot of people just lump "front end lameness" into the navicular category. IMO, it's a word that's used to broadly and without any type of diagnoses. |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | Murphy - 2015-01-21 12:15 PM Iwish - 2015-01-21 1:14 PM Oh wow. That's awesome ThreeCorners. How did they get that he has navicular? I think a lot of people just lump "front end lameness" into the navicular category. IMO, it's a word that's used to broadly and without any type of diagnoses.
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | The guy has his papers and told me the papers could be had. He even told me the horses registered name. I called because I wanted to make sure he wasnt a colt from our mare. Thats the only reason I did all this investigative work.
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I am a Freak
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Location: Nowhere Special | Dang wish he was closer! Hopefully someone will get a heck of a good buy and he gets a home! |
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Location: Texas Baby!! | If it is something you are really considering you can look into an option called Tildren depending on your vet it can be a very affordable drug that works wonders for the horse. I had it doen on one of my geldings who had a lot of problems with navicular and he now requires no injections or anything for his navicular. If you are really considering keeping the horse this is an option and like I said depending on your vet it can also be very affordable!! |
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Location: Mansfield, Tx | firewaterfuelsme - 2015-01-20 9:55 AM
I would take a chance on him. Wish he were close to me. There is a new drug called osphos. It was approved last oct. Dr harvey at outlaw equine is seeing great improvement in navicular horses. Also lots can be done with corrective shoing.
I can't wait to TRY this new stuff.. I'm hearing GREAT things about it...
a great farrier will do wonders and not riding one into the ground either... |
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