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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/01/17/woman-plans-to-marry-her-father-after-two-years-dating/
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I think I heard on the news yesterday that they plan on having children also.
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Location: Online | Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 8:43 AM Why not marry your father or the kitchen table or your favorite book perhaps? As long as you love each other right? Thank you Supreme Court.
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Location: Kansas | total performance - 2015-01-20 10:04 AM I think I heard on the news yesterday that they plan on having children also.
i was told that resulting offspring from incest, can have devistating affects on the child. Like born with severe disabilities? |
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| barrelracr131 - 2015-01-20 10:08 AM total performance - 2015-01-20 10:04 AM I think I heard on the news yesterday that they plan on having children also. Those children will most like have severe disabilities... If they survive to birth and through infancy
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:11 AM Honestly, I'm disgusted by the story but some of these comments...holy crap. To me marrying your DAD is a lot different than simply being gay. This forum gets more disturbing and difficult to read by the day.
I don't want to compare this to gay marriage.
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:11 AM Honestly, I'm disgusted by the story but some of these comments...holy crap. To me marrying your DAD is a lot different than simply being gay. This forum gets more disturbing and difficult to read by the day.
You can look through your tunnel vision all you want. But marriage is being twisted and changed. What once was taboo is now okay, the process is what I'm highlighting. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:11 AM
Honestly, I'm disgusted by the story but some of these comments...holy crap. To me marrying your DAD is a lot different than simply being gay. This forum gets more disturbing and difficult to read by the day.
I don't know why you are surprised. The laws against incest are founded right out of the bible, just like the laws we USED to have against Homosexuality. I can totally see these laws going by-the-way soon. |
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Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:11 AM Honestly, I'm disgusted by the story but some of these comments...holy crap. To me marrying your DAD is a lot different than simply being gay. This forum gets more disturbing and difficult to read by the day.
You can look through your tunnel vision all you want.
Take a look in the mirror. If things never changed we'd never get anywhere. TXBO: You bet I do, even if I find the particular arrangement to be disgusting. |
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Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:40 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 12:32 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:11 AM Honestly, I'm disgusted by the story but some of these comments...holy crap. To me marrying your DAD is a lot different than simply being gay. This forum gets more disturbing and difficult to read by the day. You can look through your tunnel vision all you want.
That's exactly where you and Whiteboy were going with it. You know it, I know it, everyone reading knows it. Stop trying to be coy and own it. |
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| Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 10:01 AM That was what people once said about 2 men who wanted to marry each other.
Actually Whiteboy compared it to gay marriage first |
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:51 AM TXBO - 2015-01-20 12:46 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:40 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 12:32 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:11 AM Honestly, I'm disgusted by the story but some of these comments...holy crap. To me marrying your DAD is a lot different than simply being gay. This forum gets more disturbing and difficult to read by the day. You can look through your tunnel vision all you want.
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| tj135 - 2015-01-20 11:54 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 10:01 AM That was what people once said about 2 men who wanted to marry each other.
Actually Whiteboy compared it to gay marriage first
Yes I did, so since you are so disgusted that I would do that. Tell me how they differ? |
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| tj135 - 2015-01-20 11:54 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 10:01 AM That was what people once said about 2 men who wanted to marry each other.
Actually Whiteboy compared it to gay marriage first
Touche'. I stand corrected.
Whiteboy's bit of truth is hardly disparaging, however. Certainly not worthy of disgust.
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Consenting adults are consenting adults. But...this girl was under age when the relationship began. The estranged dad contacted her. THAT to me is one reason this just creeps me the heck out. |
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Location: In Ky following Barrel Races & Walker hounds. | TwistedK - 2015-01-20 11:52 AM
a question on the Kentucky marriage license is "Are you 2nd cousins or closer?" No joke.....
True story........ I couldn't believe that when we went to get married. Yuck!! |
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Consenting adults are consenting adults. But...this girl was under age when the relationship began. The estranged dad contacted her. THAT to me is one reason this just creeps me the heck out.
She was 16 when they started having sex....That should come back to bite him in the a$$..
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BlazeFlameHarley - 2015-01-20 12:05 PM TwistedK - 2015-01-20 11:52 AM a question on the Kentucky marriage license is "Are you 2nd cousins or closer?" No joke..... True story........ I couldn't believe that when we went to get married. Yuck!!
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The risks of having death or severe defect from a parent-child relationship are 31.4%. That's quite a differnce, eh?
(http://www.larasig.com/node/2020)
ETA: Here's another article about a study showing that while older women are more likely to have a baby with Down's Syndrome, they are 40% less likely to give birth to a child with birth defects: http://www.medicaldaily.com/physical-defects-less-likely-babies-born-women-over-age-35-down-sydrome-still-common-268419
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Incest and siblings marrying was practiced by royalty in both Egypt and Rome. The results are part of history, both were destroyed from within.
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Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:51 AM TXBO - 2015-01-20 12:46 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:40 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 12:32 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:11 AM Honestly, I'm disgusted by the story but some of these comments...holy crap. To me marrying your DAD is a lot different than simply being gay. This forum gets more disturbing and difficult to read by the day. You can look through your tunnel vision all you want.
Just Plain Lucky, thank you for the call out. I was following this to see where it went.
Whiteboy - while I respect your opinion I don't think you realize how hurtful and impactful your comments are to those of us that are living with the cards that the good Lord gave us. I am a gay man with a wonderful partner that is a man - he has two beautiful children with his ex-wife and while we can't legally marry in Texas I still call them my step-kids. If I could marry him in Texas I would - it would make our life so much easier (benefits, taxes, conscent forms when his kids are with me are needed since I'm not a "legal" parent, the lists go on). I really don't know why anyone would care unless it directly affected them... but we all have our reasons for our beliefs. We also nixed all social media for the last 6 years, just to shield the kids from potentially getting any negativity should anyone put two and two together. As of recent we've started going to races - I am so afraid someone may make a comment in front of the 12 year old and shatter the joy that she's getting out of learning to ride and going to the events. You have no idea how your words and opinions said it a purposefully hurtful way impacts others.
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Location: In Ky following Barrel Races & Walker hounds. | TXBO - 2015-01-20 1:28 PM BlazeFlameHarley - 2015-01-20 12:45 PM I got an "transplant" from Florida so that was a big NO!
We sold all of the dogs but 1, and the only thing she has hunted this year is the couch. My husband started working at ADM as an elevator operator/barge loader and their busy time is during coon season, he is too tired to go when he gets home around 9pm then has to be back at the plant by 5am. And I am a self admitted chicken and wont go alone lol, so they weren't getting hunted enough. We kept the old faithful, she was already pretty much a house pet and we can take her whenever we want and not worry about a 3mile hike. She loves hunting but she is just as content going for a truck ride to the farm store. |
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| BlazeFlameHarley - 2015-01-20 2:02 PM TXBO - 2015-01-20 1:28 PM BlazeFlameHarley - 2015-01-20 12:45 PM I got an "transplant" from Florida so that was a big NO! We sold all of the dogs but 1, and the only thing she has hunted this year is the couch. My husband started working at ADM as an elevator operator/barge loader and their busy time is during coon season, he is too tired to go when he gets home around 9pm then has to be back at the plant by 5am. And I am a self admitted chicken and wont go alone lol, so they weren't getting hunted enough. We kept the old faithful, she was already pretty much a house pet and we can take her whenever we want and not worry about a 3mile hike. She loves hunting but she is just as content going for a truck ride to the farm store.
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| reese_tx - 2015-01-20 1:59 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 11:57 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:51 AM TXBO - 2015-01-20 12:46 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:40 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 12:32 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:11 AM Honestly, I'm disgusted by the story but some of these comments...holy crap. To me marrying your DAD is a lot different than simply being gay. This forum gets more disturbing and difficult to read by the day. You can look through your tunnel vision all you want. Just Plain Lucky, thank you for the call out. I was following this to see where it went. Whiteboy - while I respect your opinion I don't think you realize how hurtful and impactful your comments are to those of us that are living with the cards that the good Lord gave us. I am a gay man with a wonderful partner that is a man - he has two beautiful children with his ex-wife and while we can't legally marry in Texas I still call them my step-kids. If I could marry him in Texas I would - it would make our life so much easier (benefits, taxes, conscent forms when his kids are with me are needed since I'm not a "legal" parent, the lists go on ). I really don't know why anyone would care unless it directly affected them... but we all have our reasons for our beliefs. We also nixed all social media for the last 6 years, just to shield the kids from potentially getting any negativity should anyone put two and two together. As of recent we've started going to races - I am so afraid someone may make a comment in front of the 12 year old and shatter the joy that she's getting out of learning to ride and going to the events. You have no idea how your words and opinions said it a purposefully hurtful way impacts others. Thank you for reminding me why I had nixed all social media and will be doing so again.
Hey buddy welcome to the conversation. And since you brought it up just because you were born with that inclination doesn't mean you should engage in that behavior or get a free pass on everyones moral compass. I come from a family of alcoholics, yet I choose not to drink, because I think that is right. If you choose to feel like the victim then so be it. But I still ask the question to you or anybody else, how is the subject of this thread any different? |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 2:14 PM
reese_tx - 2015-01-20 1:59 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 11:57 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:51 AM TXBO - 2015-01-20 12:46 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:40 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 12:32 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:11 AM Honestly, I'm disgusted by the story but some of these comments...holy crap. To me marrying your DAD is a lot different than simply being gay. This forum gets more disturbing and difficult to read by the day. You can look through your tunnel vision all you want. Just Plain Lucky, thank you for the call out. I was following this to see where it went. Whiteboy - while I respect your opinion I don't think you realize how hurtful and impactful your comments are to those of us that are living with the cards that the good Lord gave us. I am a gay man with a wonderful partner that is a man - he has two beautiful children with his ex-wife and while we can't legally marry in Texas I still call them my step-kids. If I could marry him in Texas I would - it would make our life so much easier (benefits, taxes, conscent forms when his kids are with me are needed since I'm not a "legal" parent, the lists go on ). I really don't know why anyone would care unless it directly affected them... but we all have our reasons for our beliefs. We also nixed all social media for the last 6 years, just to shield the kids from potentially getting any negativity should anyone put two and two together. As of recent we've started going to races - I am so afraid someone may make a comment in front of the 12 year old and shatter the joy that she's getting out of learning to ride and going to the events. You have no idea how your words and opinions said it a purposefully hurtful way impacts others. Thank you for reminding me why I had nixed all social media and will be doing so again.
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| komet. - 2015-01-20 2:18 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 2:14 PM reese_tx - 2015-01-20 1:59 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 11:57 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:51 AM TXBO - 2015-01-20 12:46 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:40 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 12:32 PM Just Plain Lucky - 2015-01-20 11:11 AM Honestly, I'm disgusted by the story but some of these comments...holy crap. To me marrying your DAD is a lot different than simply being gay. This forum gets more disturbing and difficult to read by the day. You can look through your tunnel vision all you want. Just Plain Lucky, thank you for the call out. I was following this to see where it went. Whiteboy - while I respect your opinion I don't think you realize how hurtful and impactful your comments are to those of us that are living with the cards that the good Lord gave us. I am a gay man with a wonderful partner that is a man - he has two beautiful children with his ex-wife and while we can't legally marry in Texas I still call them my step-kids. If I could marry him in Texas I would - it would make our life so much easier (benefits, taxes, conscent forms when his kids are with me are needed since I'm not a "legal" parent, the lists go on ). I really don't know why anyone would care unless it directly affected them... but we all have our reasons for our beliefs. We also nixed all social media for the last 6 years, just to shield the kids from potentially getting any negativity should anyone put two and two together. As of recent we've started going to races - I am so afraid someone may make a comment in front of the 12 year old and shatter the joy that she's getting out of learning to ride and going to the events. You have no idea how your words and opinions said it a purposefully hurtful way impacts others. Thank you for reminding me why I had nixed all social media and will be doing so again. Why should he lead a false lifestyle just to suit the sensitivities of other people?
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That could go either way. So who is "he"? Him or me?
He is him. Why should he not find a suitable SO to live his life with because you don't like it?
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| komet. - 2015-01-20 2:28 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 2:25 PM That could go either way. So who is "he"? Him or me? He is him. Why should he not find a suitable SO to live his life with because you don't like it?
He can live his life however he wants, I'll do the same, but remember he came to this conversation and felt like he was being picked on. But the questions is, as society slides further away from values we once thought were important, where does that leave us in the future? From the article, the state of New Jersey allows incest, is that the next supreme court issue of the decade. Well that all depends on people and their defenition of "right". |
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komet. - 2015-01-20 2:28 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 2:25 PM That could go either way. So who is "he"? Him or me? He is him. Why should he not find a suitable SO to live his life with because you don't like it?
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| komet. - 2015-01-20 2:46 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 2:41 PM komet. - 2015-01-20 2:28 PM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 2:25 PM That could go either way. So who is "he"? Him or me? He is him. Why should he not find a suitable SO to live his life with because you don't like it? NJ?? Pfftt!!! What do you expect form a state that elected Chris Christie??
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Jesus Christ Is the Only Begotten Son of God......and Mormon doctrine teaches God as a man laid with Mary....now think about that.
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Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING.
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| NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING.
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| NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | barrelracr131 - 2015-01-20 3:09 PM
Marriages between cousins or uncle/niece relations are really common in some parts of the world. They account for 20-50% of marriages in those places. These days, these couples are seeking genetic counseling before marriage.
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Location: SE Louisiana | barrelracr131 - 2015-01-20 3:09 PM
Marriages between cousins or uncle/niece relations are really common in some parts of the world. They account for 20-50% of marriages in those places. These days, these couples are seeking genetic counseling before marriage.
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Location: Washington | Whiteboy you need to dig into your religion.
And for the record I don't believe the story, no names....you can say anything.
WHY DOES MY TEXT DO THIS, I can't even read it! lol |
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| fatchance - 2015-01-20 3:27 PM Whiteboy you need to dig into your religion. And for the record I don't believe the story, no names....you can say anything. WHY DOES MY TEXT DO THIS, I can't even read it! lol MMm. I'm pretty sure. Our basis for this comes from the bible, just like most everyone else. Do you have some official doctrine you would like to share with me, maybe they came out with this new declairation. lol
ps. im still not sure where you are going with this.
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Location: N Texas | The more I think about it, the less it bothers me about the incest aspect, and the more it bothers me from a pedophilia standpoint. A four-year-old girl loses contact with her father, and (I'm just assuming here), grows up without a strong father-figure in her life. Twelve years later at the age of sixteen, her father reaches out to her to renew their relationship. He hasn't had contact with her in 12 years, so they don't have the strong father/daughter bond that typical parents and children have. They're essentially strangers. She comes to visit him, he sees her as a young, naive, impressionable child. Someone who he knows won't question his authority, and he manipulates her into believing that what they're doing and feeling is ok.
Of course it's just speculation, but it's really not a stretch.
So that's what really bothers me about it, a grown man preying on a teenager who can't comprehend the weight of her actions. |
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The Original Cyber Bartender
Location: Washington | Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 1:36 PM fatchance - 2015-01-20 3:27 PM Whiteboy you need to dig into your religion. And for the record I don't believe the story, no names....you can say anything. WHY DOES MY TEXT DO THIS, I can't even read it! lol MMm. I'm pretty sure. Our basis for this comes from the bible, just like most everyone else. Do you have some official doctrine you would like to share with me, maybe they came out with this new declairation. lol
ps. im still not sure where you are going with this.
Look up the word Begotten. |
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| This is the tip of the iceberg. The whole "how can love be wrong" crowd will push this issue off on us. Then the courts will defend them. Then we will be labeled "religious fanatic" for taking a stand. It's a downward spiral. The devil comes to steal, kill, and destroy. He's worked his way up to the family unit. He won't stop till he gets the whole country. |
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | FlyingJT - 2015-01-20 3:04 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING.
So where is the homosexual gene? |
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Location: Montana | All I can say is EWWWWW! I love my dad, but I can't imagine EVER wanting to marry him or have that kind of relationship with him. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | GoGaited - 2015-01-20 7:46 PM
FlyingJT - 2015-01-20 3:04 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING.
I'm sure they are way too busy looking for the cancer gene to bother about that.. |
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Location: Kentucky | GoGaited - 2015-01-20 8:46 PM FlyingJT - 2015-01-20 3:04 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING.
Where is the heterosexual gene? |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | In the old days this would have been handled with a rope. What happens between adults behind their private doors is their buisiness. But this is just not right for the girl of her age. |
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| Just throwing this out there. I agree with the pedophilia comment. I feel this is an older man taking advantage of a young girls ignorance. |
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Location: So. California | Gunner11 - 2015-01-20 1:51 PM The more I think about it, the less it bothers me about the incest aspect, and the more it bothers me from a pedophilia standpoint. A four-year-old girl loses contact with her father, and (I'm just assuming here), grows up without a strong father-figure in her life. Twelve years later at the age of sixteen, her father reaches out to her to renew their relationship. He hasn't had contact with her in 12 years, so they don't have the strong father/daughter bond that typical parents and children have. They're essentially strangers. She comes to visit him, he sees her as a young, naive, impressionable child. Someone who he knows won't question his authority, and he manipulates her into believing that what they're doing and feeling is ok. Of course it's just speculation, but it's really not a stretch. So that's what really bothers me about it, a grown man preying on a teenager who can't comprehend the weight of her actions. Totally agree!! It's called "grooming" their victim. The girl was an impressionable young teenager, may have been dreaming about having a normal relationship with her father... Along he comes and he is nothing other than a sick pedophile, preying on an innocent young girl.
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Location: So. California | Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 1:07 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING. Way too many similarities to discount, just behind 10-15 years. They will make this a social issue, you watch and see.
Apples and oranges. It's impossible for a gay couple to procreate. |
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Location: Texas | Anniemae - 2015-01-21 1:06 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 1:07 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING. Way too many similarities to discount, just behind 10-15 years. They will make this a social issue, you watch and see.
So if the father is shooting blanks it is ok to you? |
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| pinx05 - 2015-01-21 2:18 AM
Anniemae - 2015-01-21 1:06 AM Whiteboy - 2015-01-20 1:07 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING. Way too many similarities to discount, just behind 10-15 years. They will make this a social issue, you watch and see.
No one here is saying that this particular story and the people (the dad, specifically ) in it aren't gross and wrong. I agree with the people who feel that this is pedophilia. I'm just tired of people comparing acts of pedophilia to gay people. |
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I posted this article because I just can't believe that this is ok with her family etc. And the child sounds so poorly educated if that transcript is truly how she speaks. Somehow some things in this world still manage to surprise me.
But...I really don't see what this has to do with gay marriage or any of that. It's apples and oranges. This is a sick adult taking advantage of a child that wanted a relationship with her father...he made it into a romantic relationship which should not be allowed due to her easily manipulated youth etc. That is wrong whatever the sex, religion, creed or color of the participants IMHO
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| "Give em' an inch, and they'll take a mile."
"Keep it simple, stupid."
stupid phrases we've come to know and yet, may have more impact than we realize. The ten commandments are not really Christian specific. Most religions will warn against stealing, cheating, lust and gluttony among other things. My point is, the more we stray from the "Simplicity" of those ten commandments the more and more the depraved will try and push for that extra mile. You can call it progress, but is it really? Look around, do you truly feel we have progressed in morality in this nation?
I have to great friends that I love deeply that are homosexual. They admit, they don't have a clue if they were "born that way" mainly, enviromental, stress and other factors played a role in their lifestyle choices. This situation with the father and daughter is not remotely close to homosexuality, yet opening the door for gay marriage, puts a crack in the foundation of our moral compass.
This country is lost beyond measure when we are now facing laws about speaking against Islam a religion that crucify gays and incest, and yet we protect the rights of these individuals through our constitution.
This father is sick, the daughter is desperate and because of the "Live and let live" lifestyle that fought hard to change the laws in our country, this woman is a victim and she doesn't even know it.
I wish like a fool we can all go back to when things were simpler, and the rules of morality were quite clear. Mayberry comes to mind.
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | Awwww....so nice to know there is someone for everyone!!! |
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Location: Oklahoma | While I most definitely do not agree with incest, I'd say from a legal standpoint, how as a government can we tell them what they can and can't do?....That being said, I agree with a lot of you that in this situation, it sure seems like a man took advantage of a young lady who was underage, and in a very impressionable state. That I think is wrong.
As far as those who compare incest to gays…Yes, society as a whole changes over time. It's this thing called evolving and educating ourselves. We no longer see stoning as a proper way to deal with adultery (although I can think of a few cases people need it lol), we don't enslave people, so on and so forth. There was a time when interracial marriage was not an option. Guess what, we evolved and improved. There was a time gay marriage was not an option. Guess what, we are evolving. We are improving. The comment though that incest will be the next big social issue, I don’t agree with. I just don't think there are that many Americans that would care to rally for that. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | komet. - 2015-01-20 8:05 PM
GoGaited - 2015-01-20 7:46 PM
FlyingJT - 2015-01-20 3:04 PM NonaY - 2015-01-20 2:59 PM Oh brother. Gay people are BORN that way. It is NOT a choice. Incest is a totally different story. Just plain SICK and DISGUSTING.
I'm sure they are way too busy looking for the cancer gene to bother about that..
Totally OT, but cancer's been cured 100 times over....I work in a lab and know scientists who have found 'cures', then the FDA wouldn't approve....population control, big pharma....whatever |
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Location: SE Louisiana | osu_barrelracer - 2015-01-21 5:10 PM
While I most definitely do not agree with incest, I'd say from a legal standpoint, how as a government can we tell them what they can and can't do?....That being said, I agree with a lot of you that in this situation, it sure seems like a man took advantage of a young lady who was underage, and in a very impressionable state. That I think is wrong.
As far as those who compare incest to gays…Yes, society as a whole changes over time. It's this thing called evolving and educating ourselves. We no longer see stoning as a proper way to deal with adultery (although I can think of a few cases people need it lol), we don't enslave people, so on and so forth. There was a time when interracial marriage was not an option. Guess what, we evolved and improved. There was a time gay marriage was not an option. Guess what, we are evolving. We are improving. The comment though that incest will be the next big social issue, I don’t agree with. I just don't think there are that many Americans that would care to rally for that.
As far as interracial goes, I can remember way back in the early 60s there was a white man married to a black woman living next door to my mother's folks in Chicago. Incest vs gay? Why not have both?... or has nobody here heard of Aaron and Austin Rhodes? |
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Location: Dubach, LA | Komet - Don't make me google that. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | CanCan - 2015-01-21 7:36 PM
Komet - Don't make me google that.
It's been headline news all week... |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | komet. - 2015-01-21 7:42 PM CanCan - 2015-01-21 7:36 PM Komet - Don't make me google that. It's been headline news all week...
The gay couple with kids and the ad campaign?? I think I saw that today. For a BIG shoe company. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | total performance - 2015-01-21 7:47 PM
komet. - 2015-01-21 7:42 PM CanCan - 2015-01-21 7:36 PM Komet - Don't make me google that. It's been headline news all week...
No... the twin gay boys coming out to their dad over the phone before their stuff hits Youtube. |
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| osu_barrelracer - 2015-01-21 5:10 PM While I most definitely do not agree with incest, I'd say from a legal standpoint, how as a government can we tell them what they can and can't do?....
Isn't the very purpose of government to define what we must do or can't do? |
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| TXBO - 2015-01-23 6:02 AM osu_barrelracer - 2015-01-21 5:10 PM While I most definitely do not agree with incest, I'd say from a legal standpoint, how as a government can we tell them what they can and can't do?.... Isn't the very purpose of government to define what we must do or can't do?
We are dancing on the tips of swords. Let's say nothing is done about this and the couple can marry. Media will pick up on the news story. Now the door is open for every whack job to consider the unthinkable because now legal presedence has been set. "Well, if he can do it..."
What terrifies me more than anything...those sick bastards are everywhere. People these days are screwed up, drug induced maniacs. I can't stand society the way it is.
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| Says she was estranged from her sperm donor for 12 years---there's probably a reason her mother kept her away from him!?! |
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Woman plans to marry her father....