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Location: IL | Anybody dealt with this before? My mare has been diagnosed with arthritis in her LF fetlock. Vet said she has some decreased range of motion in that fetlock due to this. Right now we're going to hold off on doing injections until she absolutely needs them. He did prescribe me previcox for her for when we are planning to compete especially for 3 day shows. I do have her in PHT quick wraps while she's stalled but I was curious if there was anything you do or feed to help? Perhaps any poultices, liniments, etc?
My main concern is making sure she's comfortable during EVERYDAY riding. Is horse aspirin something I could give her as I'd rather not be giving her bute everytime we ride? Interested in any and all information you want to share! Thanks!
Edited by TACKyPaints 2015-01-20 3:01 PM
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| I would for sure do a full round of Adequan to protect the remaining cartilage you have left in the joints. I would also go to a monthly or bi monthly use of Polyglycan. Day before a race or long weekend of Racing, LEGEND. Lately I have had OUTSTANDING results with Pentosan Gold
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Location: USA | My now 25 year old mare has arthritis in one of her fetlocks. We haven't injected her but do have her on previcox. She isn't ridden hard anymore but she is excercised a couple times a week. If we do not excercise her she gets stiff. When she was racing, she was on Adequan and we gave her previcoxx before and after a race. She did great on it. Previcoxx is a lot safer than bute or asprin and easier on their stomach. |
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| My horse has arthritic hocks and responds super to Adequan. I have used previcoxx in the past on him as well, but didn't need to as much when he was on adequan. |
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| I would be getting a second opinion
As if you inject with HA and trimisclinone it will reduce inflammation (trimisclinone is the only steroid that studies have shown to promote cartilage regeneration). This will prolong the horses career
Previcoxx only works on one inflammatory pathway, therefore there will still be inflammation in the joint which causes a protein buildup which makes the synovial fluid thinner and the protein (I believe it is a by product of prostaglandin) will actually eat away at the cartilage till the horse is completely crippled and needs to be euthanized.
Every horse is different and how fast the degenerative process occurs is all dependent on the horse.
Bute I believe is the only antiinflammtory that works on both inflammation pathways but also wrecks the stomach.
As I said I would get a second opinion including xrays as if the horse has decreased ROM it sounds like the fetlock is fusing, and start with adequan.
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Location: IL | cheryl makofka - 2015-01-20 2:16 PM I would be getting a second opinion As if you inject with HA and trimisclinone it will reduce inflammation (trimisclinone is the only steroid that studies have shown to promote cartilage regeneration). This will prolong the horses career Previcoxx only works on one inflammatory pathway, therefore there will still be inflammation in the joint which causes a protein buildup which makes the synovial fluid thinner and the protein (I believe it is a by product of prostaglandin) will actually eat away at the cartilage till the horse is completely crippled and needs to be euthanized. Every horse is different and how fast the degenerative process occurs is all dependent on the horse. Bute I believe is the only antiinflammtory that works on both inflammation pathways but also wrecks the stomach. As I said I would get a second opinion including xrays as if the horse has decreased ROM it sounds like the fetlock is fusing, and start with adequan.
I trust my vet's opinion as he is a highly respected vet. Radiographs were done which is how the arthritis was diagnosed. Vet did inject her fetlock after initial diagnosis but said he would much rather see how she does before we start regularly doing injections. She is not lame on it, just a bit stiff when we start initial rides, but she works out of it.
As for Legend or Adequan, I have no experience with either of them.
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| TACKyPaints - 2015-01-20 2:27 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-01-20 2:16 PM I would be getting a second opinion As if you inject with HA and trimisclinone it will reduce inflammation (trimisclinone is the only steroid that studies have shown to promote cartilage regeneration). This will prolong the horses career Previcoxx only works on one inflammatory pathway, therefore there will still be inflammation in the joint which causes a protein buildup which makes the synovial fluid thinner and the protein (I believe it is a by product of prostaglandin) will actually eat away at the cartilage till the horse is completely crippled and needs to be euthanized. Every horse is different and how fast the degenerative process occurs is all dependent on the horse. Bute I believe is the only antiinflammtory that works on both inflammation pathways but also wrecks the stomach. As I said I would get a second opinion including xrays as if the horse has decreased ROM it sounds like the fetlock is fusing, and start with adequan.
I trust my vet's opinion as he is a highly respected vet. Radiographs were done which is how the arthritis was diagnosed. Vet did inject her fetlock after initial diagnosis but said he would much rather see how she does before we start regularly doing injections. She is not lame on it, just a bit stiff when we start initial rides, but she works out of it.
As for Legend or Adequan, I have no experience with either of them.
If she is stiff she does not have enough lubrication in the joint, this is the step before they go head bobbing lame.
If you don't inject it is a matter of time, no one has a crystal ball to see how long a horse will last, injections just but you more time if done proactively.
A fetlock is a high motion joint and depo should not be injected into it, high motion joints are actually a contradiction.
I encourage you to educate yourself about what your vet is injecting in.
Legend only lasts max 3 days half life I believe is 12 hours.
Adequan the initial dose is a 28 day regime, I would get on that right away |
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Location: IL | cheryl makofka - 2015-01-20 4:38 PM TACKyPaints - 2015-01-20 2:27 PM cheryl makofka - 2015-01-20 2:16 PM I would be getting a second opinion As if you inject with HA and trimisclinone it will reduce inflammation (trimisclinone is the only steroid that studies have shown to promote cartilage regeneration). This will prolong the horses career Previcoxx only works on one inflammatory pathway, therefore there will still be inflammation in the joint which causes a protein buildup which makes the synovial fluid thinner and the protein (I believe it is a by product of prostaglandin) will actually eat away at the cartilage till the horse is completely crippled and needs to be euthanized. Every horse is different and how fast the degenerative process occurs is all dependent on the horse. Bute I believe is the only antiinflammtory that works on both inflammation pathways but also wrecks the stomach. As I said I would get a second opinion including xrays as if the horse has decreased ROM it sounds like the fetlock is fusing, and start with adequan. I trust my vet's opinion as he is a highly respected vet. Radiographs were done which is how the arthritis was diagnosed. Vet did inject her fetlock after initial diagnosis but said he would much rather see how she does before we start regularly doing injections. She is not lame on it, just a bit stiff when we start initial rides, but she works out of it.
As for Legend or Adequan, I have no experience with either of them.
If she is stiff she does not have enough lubrication in the joint, this is the step before they go head bobbing lame. If you don't inject it is a matter of time, no one has a crystal ball to see how long a horse will last, injections just but you more time if done proactively. A fetlock is a high motion joint and depo should not be injected into it, high motion joints are actually a contradiction. I encourage you to educate yourself about what your vet is injecting in. Legend only lasts max 3 days half life I believe is 12 hours. Adequan the initial dose is a 28 day regime, I would get on that right away
I'll look into the Adequan and consult my vet about it. I'd be more comfortable doing an intramuscular injection for her that would help. As for the actual fetlock injection, he injected her LF fetlock with HA.
We (vet and I) haven't ruled out regular injections for her but he doesn't want to rush into them just yet as he said once you start it generally has to be kept up with.
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