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Location: flatlands | This past week I've noticed that FB has been infiltrated with online panhandlers begging for money to fund their barrel racing careers. I guess I'm old-fashioned, but what ever happened to talent, saving, and--heaven forbid--a J.O.B? What's more, many of these people with their hands out are referring to themselves as "professionals..." Really? Two of the ones I started following don't even have their permits filled. I filled my permit last winter after years of working at it. During that time I went through a couple horses, gave birth twice, and all the while, maintained my fulltime J.O.B. Still, I would no more call myself a professional than I would solicit money for my personal gain. These crowdfunding sites do have their purpose and they do a lot of good, but using gimmicks and making promises to strangers, all the while pocketing someone else's dime...it just seems so desperate and tacky, and it could pose a stigma for the real professionals who deserve to be where they are. Anyone else see this stuff recently? |
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Location: relocated to Texas | Agree completely. If you cannot afford to do it, then don't do it. I don't understand how a person could expect someone else to pay the freight so they could barrel race. |
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| HA. Someone on my FB friends asked for people to gofund her trip to A BOWL GAME. are you kidding me. I was embarrassed for her. |
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| I would never in a million years solicit money on a page to pay my way. I think it is shameful and arrogant. With that being said, there are people who do not mind giving their money away. It allows them to be a part of something without actually being physically involved. Although I would much rather people didn't create these pages and the donors would give to a genuine cause, it is their money and if that's what they want to give it to it's their choice.
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Location: Midwest | I don't mind helping out someone who has a true need or is going through a really rough time:
Ex- I had a friend who was a mom of two toddlers. Her husband was having health issues and had a bad reaction to a medication. He started hallucinating, even got physical with her (which was NOT him), and was basically out of his mind! This went on for a few weeks and he was even in a hospital for part of this time, until he began to recover and come back to himself. He was obviously not working while he was having these issues. I didn't mind sending some money her way to help her out.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | People have reached a new low and the internet is helping them. I think it is disguisting also.
I believe the only time - and along these lines - that someone should ask for help would be food, shelter etc., to escape a desperate situation, drugs, alcohol, abuse, loss of job etc.
That I would gladly support.
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Location: Northern CA | It is crazy! I show cow horses and NRCHA just came out with a new rule that Non Pro's cannot use crowdfunding, they will loose their NP/ammie status!!! |
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | halter_ego - 2015-01-22 1:27 PM It is crazy! I show cow horses and NRCHA just came out with a new rule that Non Pro's cannot use crowdfunding, they will loose their NP/ammie status!!! and how pray tell will the NRCHA be able to prove this..... lets say a friend or family relative/business funded a show for me and someone found out- would/could that be construed as crowdfunding?
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| I do find crowdfunding useful to innovation, such as people crowdfunding in order to release their new, breakout album or product that will bring money back to them. But along with these, many of the donors also get something in return for their money, i.e. an early release of the album or the product before it hits the shelves.
But really, crowdfunding to go to a barrel race/rodeo?! It doesn't make sense to me. Why would you want to give someone money, so they could go try to win money? If they do get funded, whatever they win should be given back to the donor... IMHO |
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| Aqhaczy - 2015-01-22 1:34 PM
halter_ego - 2015-01-22 1:27 PM It is crazy! I show cow horses and NRCHA just came out with a new rule that Non Pro's cannot use crowdfunding, they will loose their NP/ammie status!!! and how pray tell will the NRCHA be able to prove this..... lets say a friend or family relative/business funded a show for me and someone found out- would/could that be construed as crowdfunding?
I would imagine it would be pretty easy to prove, because it's set up as a webpage where people can go to donate. All it would take would be for someone to forward the link to the NRCHA or screenshot the site in case it's taken down. I would think that the companies that run these sites also have to do some pretty meticulous record-keeping. |
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| This almost sounds as bad as the time they held two HUGE benefit races down here where I live few years ago. First was for a well known barrel racer who was injured barrel racing and needed money to help with medical expenses. Well, she entered her own benefit barrel race and WON IT. I thought that was tacky. Second was a futurity trainer who had a horse colic and need surgery. The benefit was to help pay for vet bill. They did not run in their own benefit but this particular person was always gloating about how much money they had from buying, selling barrel horses and tack. Hummmmmmmm |
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Location: flatlands | FLITASTIC - 2015-01-22 1:54 PM This almost sounds as bad as the time they held two HUGE benefit races down here where I live few years ago. First was for a well known barrel racer who was injured barrel racing and needed money to help with medical expenses. Well, she entered her own benefit barrel race and WON IT. I thought that was tacky. Second was a futurity trainer who had a horse colic and need surgery. The benefit was to help pay for vet bill. They did not run in their own benefit but this particular person was always gloating about how much money they had from buying, selling barrel horses and tack. Hummmmmmmm
Hahaha! That is hysterical...and yes, way tacky! I know that our industry is FULL of people who self-inflate and promote themselves beyond their means or ability. I see it daily, and for the most part, I shrug it off, shut my mouth, and remind myself to focus on what I do in the arena. For some reason, though, this is really grinding on me--I almost feel offended. I was reading some comments from one of these girls who was apparently in Buckeye last weekend, and I just got *^$@ed off! I just kept about Ryann, Jolene, or Latricia, (just to name a few). Could you imagine them promoting themselves in such a way??? What's dangerous about this is that the spectators on the outside of the industry don't know the difference. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | I have a hard time with anybody expecting sponsors or crowdfunding to pay their pay.
I see so many people begging for sponsors, etc so they can afford to haul somewhere or compete. I agree...get a job, work hard, and earn your way.
I sponsored a young girl to go to youth world last year but her family rides hard and works their tails off and she's already riding for other people some and it helped my book as well. I don't mind helping someone like that.
Then I know another girl that's done alright at a few races but she won't even attempt to get a job, let alone get up before noon, and expects sponsorship money to keep her on the road....... That seems to be the acceptable mindset nowadays. We don't want to wait or work hard for anyone.
I just sold my first book last year. In trying to make a name for myself I get up before 4am most mornings to get in some writing and promo stuff before work. Maybe I just need to quit my job, quit giving lessons and judging horse shows and start asking for sponsors and start a poor writers crowd funding campaign because I'm too tired of waiting.....at least I would get more sleep and have more time to ride!
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Shoot I know of a big name breeder that got flooded. Ruined some corrals etc. Started a Go Fund me and complained about all the damage it did to the HUUUUGE living quarter trailer sitting there. 1st of all, if you have a flipping trailer nicer than my house I assume you have more money than most that you are hoping to get to donate their hard earned money from JOBS they bust their backs at all week. Also hoping that they would have brains enough to insure a trailer that cost more than my house. Do not get me started on the Go Fund me's. It makes me want to tell the people to GO...nevermind. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | That kind of thing also makes people leery of giving to the folks that really need it. |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | There is a bareback rider where I live that has a website asking for sponsors.
It's the most hysterical thing I've ever seen, he is terrible, he has the flop N pop down pat, and to top it off half the words are miss spelled and the grammar is terrible! (You should see his ad for a stud he has SMH) but because he has a pro card he's a professional and should have sponsors!
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-22 2:56 PM
Shoot I know of a big name breeder that got flooded. Ruined some corrals etc. Started a Go Fund me and complained about all the damage it did to the HUUUUGE living quarter trailer sitting there. 1st of all, if you have a flipping trailer nicer than my house I assume you have more money than most that you are hoping to get to donate their hard earned money from JOBS they bust their backs at all week. Also hoping that they would have brains enough to insure a trailer that cost more than my house. Do not get me started on the Go Fund me's. It makes me want to tell the people to GO...nevermind.
I do believe that I saw the same one and was flabbergasted that they created a go fund me site. That one really got under my skin. (Saw a few months later they bred a couple mares to a high dollar stallion) hmm.. Just makes me angry that people refuse to donate to things that really matter such as feeding the hungry children etc. |
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| Fairweather - 2015-01-22 3:03 PM That kind of thing also makes people leery of giving to the folks that really need it.
This. Unless I personally know somebody, I don't donate. There are too many scammers out there. |
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| Tatum2 - 2015-01-22 4:22 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-22 2:56 PM
Shoot I know of a big name breeder that got flooded. Ruined some corrals etc. Started a Go Fund me and complained about all the damage it did to the HUUUUGE living quarter trailer sitting there. 1st of all, if you have a flipping trailer nicer than my house I assume you have more money than most that you are hoping to get to donate their hard earned money from JOBS they bust their backs at all week. Also hoping that they would have brains enough to insure a trailer that cost more than my house. Do not get me started on the Go Fund me's. It makes me want to tell the people to GO...nevermind.
I do believe that I saw the same one and was flabbergasted that they created a go fund me site. That one really got under my skin. (Saw a few months later they bred a couple mares to a high dollar stallion ) hmm.. Just makes me angry that people refuse to donate to things that really matter such as feeding the hungry children etc.
I know exactly who your referring to and it made me sick that they made a go fund me site!! Especially with as much money as they spend on advertising a year alone! |
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| astreakinchic - 2015-01-22 3:56 PM
Tatum2 - 2015-01-22 4:22 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-22 2:56 PM
Shoot I know of a big name breeder that got flooded. Ruined some corrals etc. Started a Go Fund me and complained about all the damage it did to the HUUUUGE living quarter trailer sitting there. 1st of all, if you have a flipping trailer nicer than my house I assume you have more money than most that you are hoping to get to donate their hard earned money from JOBS they bust their backs at all week. Also hoping that they would have brains enough to insure a trailer that cost more than my house. Do not get me started on the Go Fund me's. It makes me want to tell the people to GO...nevermind.
I do believe that I saw the same one and was flabbergasted that they created a go fund me site. That one really got under my skin. (Saw a few months later they bred a couple mares to a high dollar stallion ) hmm.. Just makes me angry that people refuse to donate to things that really matter such as feeding the hungry children etc.
I know exactly who your referring to and it made me sick that they made a go fund me site!! Especially with as much money as they spend on advertising a year alone!
If you've seen how much they raised from that it will make you even more sick... |
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | astreakinchic - 2015-01-22 3:56 PM Tatum2 - 2015-01-22 4:22 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-22 2:56 PM Shoot I know of a big name breeder that got flooded. Ruined some corrals etc. Started a Go Fund me and complained about all the damage it did to the HUUUUGE living quarter trailer sitting there. 1st of all, if you have a flipping trailer nicer than my house I assume you have more money than most that you are hoping to get to donate their hard earned money from JOBS they bust their backs at all week. Also hoping that they would have brains enough to insure a trailer that cost more than my house. Do not get me started on the Go Fund me's. It makes me want to tell the people to GO...nevermind. I do believe that I saw the same one and was flabbergasted that they created a go fund me site. That one really got under my skin. (Saw a few months later they bred a couple mares to a high dollar stallion ) hmm.. Just makes me angry that people refuse to donate to things that really matter such as feeding the hungry children etc. I know exactly who your referring to and it made me sick that they made a go fund me site!! Especially with as much money as they spend on advertising a year alone!
So name the name. Inquiring minds want to know. If they were begging for money on the internet, they obviously don't care about their reputation. |
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Location: Northern CA | Aqhaczy - 2015-01-22 11:34 AM
halter_ego - 2015-01-22 1:27 PM It is crazy! I show cow horses and NRCHA just came out with a new rule that Non Pro's cannot use crowdfunding, they will loose their NP/ammie status!!! and how pray tell will the NRCHA be able to prove this..... lets say a friend or family relative/business funded a show for me and someone found out- would/could that be construed as crowdfunding?
NRCHA has a non-pro rule that states only the non-pro or their immediate family can pay entries. I am sure people "get around" this rule, but doing it publicly online would be pretty trackable. |
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Location: Kansas | Depending upon how they are wording "the donation" I would be concerned that they are liable for the taxes on this money as income. I know there are rules in place that call it income just don't know what they are specifically. |
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | http://www.gofundme.com/ak03hc
I could not afford a small portion of what they have. It says insurance would cover most of it, too. And, the 10K they've raised means basically nothing compared to the huge dollar amount lost. It would be life changing money for most regular folks. I don't think the rich should ask for money like that. |
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If you want something that bad, WORK FOR IT!!!!!!!
Understanding those peoples mentalities will never be answered. It makes me disgusted.
Anyone curious go to gofundme.com and type in barrel racers
Don't get me wrong, I'm a very giving person. I wouldn't mind giving someone money for groceries if they didn't have food but I'm not chipping in on someone's entry fee or fuel cost to go to a barrel race???? Stupid. |
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No respect for the game nowadays....
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | I personally think it looks a little tacky under many circumstances...some seem valid, but who am I to judge who is deserving and who is not? Where do you draw the line? It's still a free country, ya'll. If other people want to give to those people, who are you to say they cannot or should not? It is their money to spend as they wish. As I said...free country. |
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | CrossCreek - 2015-01-22 10:19 PM I personally think it looks a little tacky under many circumstances...some seem valid, but who am I to judge who is deserving and who is not? Where do you draw the line? It's still a free country, ya'll. If other people want to give to those people, who are you to say they cannot or should not? It is their money to spend as they wish. As I said...free country.
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Location: Midwest | Itsme - 2015-01-22 9:26 PM What happened to the good'ol days of sleeping your way to the top? No respect for the game nowadays....
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Location: Florida | I followed the link and the first on the list is a benefit for Joe Hope. Many of you will remember his wife Carolyn Hope ran rodeo here in Florida until she was struck with a terrible illness. Now Joe needs our help. Now that is a worthy cause and I encourage anyone who can to donate.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Vickie - 2015-01-23 9:07 AM I followed the link and the first on the list is a benefit for Joe Hope. Many of you will remember his wife Carolyn Hope ran rodeo here in Florida until she was struck with a terrible illness. Now Joe needs our help. Now that is a worthy cause and I encourage anyone who can to donate.
There are some like this that are ligit ones and what the site was origionally intended for. HOWEVER, scroll down a bit, and through the pages you do see quite a few who are wanting you to fund their pipe dream horse habit. They should be ashamed. |
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| I see some of them and they are "Help me get to the NBHA World Championships" Really? This is a hobby for most of these girls on there.. If you cannot afford to make a trip that far on your own stick to your local events.. This is just my opinion. I would like to go out on the road, as I have a horse that could run with some of those girls, but I don't have the money to keep me going so I stick to my state and surrounding states and work M-F. To each their own |
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| There was a lady that was on the verge of losing her house and wanted people to donate money to her. She then went and was defending why she should still be able to go to barrel races and stuff because it was her daughters childhood that was in jeopardy. I am sorry I am all about kids being kids and such but I think that a house is more important for a child rather than being able to barrel race every weekend. ------------- |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | You draw the line at PRIDE. When cattle are bringing $1500 for a fat weanling in the fall, you sell something to pay for your hobby. You don't go begging for money from people that can't afford to barrel race because they are working their asses off to keep afloat. I would be MORTIFIED if my family ever begged like that. I'm not judging any one in particular with this, but ALL the ones that are guilty. Bragging on what you own one minute and begging for money the next is just gross.
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-01-22 1:54 PM
This almost sounds as bad as the time they held two HUGE benefit races down here where I live few years ago. First was for a well known barrel racer who was injured barrel racing and needed money to help with medical expenses. Well, she entered her own benefit barrel race and WON IT. I thought that was tacky. Second was a futurity trainer who had a horse colic and need surgery. The benefit was to help pay for vet bill. They did not run in their own benefit but this particular person was always gloating about how much money they had from buying, selling barrel horses and tack. Hummmmmmmm
I know of the same thing happening somewhere up North with a well Known barrel racer. I went out of my way to haul some horses for her all the way down South on my dime, to help her out of a jam, then I heard about this and the legitimacy of her illness came in to question.
I see this as an extension of the "everybody gets a ribbon" mentality. I want to do something , but can't afford it. Therefore somebody else should pay because I WANT to do it. |
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| Tatum2 - 2015-01-22 3:22 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-22 2:56 PM
Shoot I know of a big name breeder that got flooded. Ruined some corrals etc. Started a Go Fund me and complained about all the damage it did to the HUUUUGE living quarter trailer sitting there. 1st of all, if you have a flipping trailer nicer than my house I assume you have more money than most that you are hoping to get to donate their hard earned money from JOBS they bust their backs at all week. Also hoping that they would have brains enough to insure a trailer that cost more than my house. Do not get me started on the Go Fund me's. It makes me want to tell the people to GO...nevermind.
I do believe that I saw the same one and was flabbergasted that they created a go fund me site. That one really got under my skin. (Saw a few months later they bred a couple mares to a high dollar stallion ) hmm.. Just makes me angry that people refuse to donate to things that really matter such as feeding the hungry children etc.
I know exactly who you guys are talking about. Totally rolled my eyes when I seen their Gofund me page...Don't they have farm insurance? Yeah and then breeding to the high dollar stallions gave me a bad taste in my mouth..... |
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Location: Central Texas | fatchance - 2015-01-23 11:25 AM
No one is holding a gun to the head of the givers. THAT is how the beggers look at it.
I absolutely have to agree with you. They probably wouldn't be begging if people weren't willing to donate. Alot of people are going to do whatever they can to get some money. |
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| rodeoveteran - 2015-01-23 10:52 AM
FLITASTIC - 2015-01-22 1:54 PM
This almost sounds as bad as the time they held two HUGE benefit races down here where I live few years ago. First was for a well known barrel racer who was injured barrel racing and needed money to help with medical expenses. Well, she entered her own benefit barrel race and WON IT. I thought that was tacky. Second was a futurity trainer who had a horse colic and need surgery. The benefit was to help pay for vet bill. They did not run in their own benefit but this particular person was always gloating about how much money they had from buying, selling barrel horses and tack. Hummmmmmmm
I know of the same thing happening somewhere up North with a well Known barrel racer. I went out of my way to haul some horses for her all the way down South on my dime, to help her out of a jam, then I heard about this and the legitimacy of her illness came in to question.
I see this as an extension of the "everybody gets a ribbon" mentality. I want to do something , but can't afford it. Therefore somebody else should pay because I WANT to do it.
I agree, the big picture of this is disturbing. Instead of getting gritty and knuckling down to make things happen they are sticking their hand out so they can go play on the weekends. I read several of the gofund me posts that were made to fund barrel racing, I did not see one that talked about working more hours or a second job. Our work ethic is deteriorating and it show up in other areas of our society too. |
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Itsme - 2015-01-22 9:26 PM What happened to the good'ol days of sleeping your way to the top? No respect for the game nowadays....
I'm pretty sure some out there still go that route
Ha! I thought the same thing!! Or just go after someone's rich husband.
The breeders with the gofundme, just makes me shake my head--they probably STILL have more than I will ever have in my lifetime!!
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Location: Home on the Range | Nita - 2015-01-22 9:56 PM http://www.gofundme.com/ak03hc I could not afford a small portion of what they have. It says insurance would cover most of it, too. And, the 10K they've raised means basically nothing compared to the huge dollar amount lost. It would be life changing money for most regular folks. I don't think the rich should ask for money like that.
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Location: Home on the Range | Tatum2 - 2015-01-23 12:32 PM I do know the people in an above referenced post and they are very nice people just do not agree with what they did
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Location: PNW | I'd sell every material I own and work three jobs before I asked for or accepted a penny from anybody. I have donated to this stuff before for legitimate circumstances such as medical bills or something like that; but people asking for money to go play on the weekends? Um, no. It's expensive enough to take my own to a race, much less somebody else's! |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I remember a little before going to my first Ed Wright clinic I had been foaming at the mouth over a pair of hair on Cheetah print Luchesse's boots for a few months. My old bay mare that I had just lost had run in cheetah print...anyway, I wanted those things so badly but one night I had this nightmare of being at the Ed clinic and apparently things hadn't gone well and I hear his voice say over the loud speaker "Should have saved the money you spent on those boots and taken some lessons...." I did not buy the boots, LOL!!! Wish Crowdfunding had been around back then...
Though I guess in a way it was, my momma ended up buying the boots for me for Christmas so that Rio would always go with me.
So does anyone want to fund me for my NFR dream??? I need a horse, or two, or three, a trailer, a truck, and some spending cash for gas and hay and vet bills, and entries, and a driver since I hate driving...oh and maybe some more clinics so I figure out how to put my big girl panties back on and RUN to the darn first barrel!!! The rest I got, you can help me make my dreams come true. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Well,I'm all for dreams and following your dreams if you've worked your butt off to be able to do it ,,,but,,,,,one of the so n so "Professional Barrel Racer" asking for funds has appearantly quite their job (or took a long hiatis) and has been down in Az for the past few months barrel racing. We should all be able to quite our jobs, load up and head to Az. for the winter, run in the 3D and have the public fund it. |
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Location: Florida | Folks, I totaly agree with you about the undeserving. I followed the link to laugh at them. I remember one time in my life I borrowed money for an entry fee, and that was from my sister and I won money and paid her back. But if I hadn't I woud have still have paid her back because I had a full time job.
What surprised was to see the fund me for Joe Hope. I loved Caroline , his wife and my point is something good can come out of this discussion. Help Joe and Caroline, they are our barrel racing family. this is not fluff, if you can, please help,
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Location: flatlands | ThreeCorners - 2015-01-23 7:04 PM
Well,I'm all for dreams and following your dreams if you've worked your butt off to be able to do it ,,,but,,,,,one of the so n so "Professional Barrel Racer" asking for funds has appearantly quite their job (or took a long hiatis) and has been down in Az for the past few months barrel racing. We should all be able to quite our jobs, load up and head to Az. for the winter, run in the 3D and have the public fund it.
Exactly who I am talking about. Yep. If your claim to fame is winning in an amateur circuit, well then, good for you. It IS an accomplishment, but at the end of the day, you are still an amateur. I would think camping out at Buckeye for the last 3 months technically means it's your home town arena, and if you're still clocking in the 3d, then it's probably time to either head home or get a J-O-B. Stop soliciting already. |
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10D Crack Champion
| Tatum2 - 2015-01-23 11:32 AMI do know the people in an above referenced post and they are very nice people just do not agree with what they did If they truly had the means to cover their own expenses whether it was selling off some propety or whatever as others have said, are they truly nice people for taking money they didn't need? Unless they have a big pay it forward plan, how is asking and accepting unneeded money from others nice? It would appear this act showed their true character.
Edited by sodapop 2015-01-24 11:10 AM
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
Location: PNW | sodapop - 2015-01-24 11:09 AM
Tatum2 - 2015-01-23 11:32 AMI do know the people in an above referenced post and they are very nice people just do not agree with what they did If they truly had the means to cover their own expenses whether it was selling off some propety or whatever as others have said, are they truly nice people for taking money they didn't need? Unless they have a big pay it forward plan, how is asking and accepting unneeded money from others nice? It would appear this act showed their true character.
Exactly. There's always property, horses, tack, etc to sell. Also, who has a setup like that and doesn't have every square centimeter insured? |
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 Owner of a ratting catting machine
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-01-23 7:04 PM
Well,I'm all for dreams and following your dreams if you've worked your butt off to be able to do it ,,,but,,,,,one of the so n so "Professional Barrel Racer" asking for funds has appearantly quite their job (or took a long hiatis) and has been down in Az for the past few months barrel racing. We should all be able to quite our jobs, load up and head to Az. for the winter, run in the 3D and have the public fund it.
You're only telling me this was an option NOW?! I went for four months like 5 years ago during a layoff from work. I'm not lying, I rolled through the price of a good rodeo horse like butter between me and my team roper then-boyfriend. Money flows like water there, you've never seen it go so fast! And we were the poor folks there (my nest egg has NEVER recovered, ah to be young and irresponsible again). We crawled home and luckily the oilfield woke back up just in time and put us back to work before we bankrupted.
To give myself some props though, I mostly ran in the 2D, even placed a little. And I paid my own way. And his.
BUT, since this is evidently a THING, I'm taking up collections IMMEDIATELY!! Who's going with me?! The public'll pay for it! |
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| Wow... one of the 'Go Fund Me' beggars was an advertiser on the webcast of the American Qualifier at Buckeye. Wonder if they're using the $10K+ they pulled in from 'Go Fund Me' to help pay their advertising fee. Did the creek which flooded wipe out their 20,000 acre horse, cattle and hunting business?
Edited by ms cartman 2015-01-24 10:14 PM
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Crowdfunding your barrel career? Seriously?