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 A Bit of a Grammar Nut
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Location: floating down a river | I'm curious how everyone cues for the canter. Do you cue inside or outside leg and why? |
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  Northern Chocolate Queen
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Location: ND | I use both. My inside leg is forward keeping the shoulder square, outside leg slides back to push the hip in & pick up the lead. |
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| My cue is to put the opposite hip under her and give body language that says "go." If I don't give her the "go" body language she will just move her hip over and continue doing whatever she was. Standing still, walking-ect.
That is probably the coolest thing I taught her because I can go from 0 to right lead in 3. I love doing that. |
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Location: Texas Baby!! | I use the outside leg to push their hip underneath them!
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Red Bull Agressive
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Location: North Dakota | SaraJean - 2015-01-25 1:20 PM I use both. My inside leg is forward keeping the shoulder square, outside leg slides back to push the hip in & pick up the lead.
Mine is the same. Typically I just have to think "canter" and it works but if my horse is being lazy I reinforce with a voice cue. |
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Location: Montana | I use my inside leg to support the shoulder; outside leg to cue, a little behind stationary position. Like Sara though I dont move my inside forward. Forgot to add that I use a very slight inside rein cue.
Edited by Bandit94 2015-01-25 2:31 PM
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 You get what you give
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Location: Texas | I usually just have to shift my weight forward and they will transition up to a lope. when teaching leads, I use my inside leg for the cue, and outside leg to keep their hip under. I also use my inside hand to keep nose tipped in and shoulder up but it's all subtle. Outside hand is helping keep the outside of the horse in frame. |
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Location: Alberta | SaraJean - 2015-01-25 12:20 PM
I use both. My inside leg is forward keeping the shoulder square, outside leg slides back to push the hip in & pick up the lead.
This.... |
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 Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Teaching leads, I push the hip in with the outside and bump at the girth with my inside, making sure I'm sitting deep with my weight shifted slightly to my outside hip. My finished horses, I just do a very slight weight shift and move my inside leg and they step right into it. Timing is part of it, you want to cue when the legs are in the right place to immediately pick up the lead from the inside hind. That keeps them from getting flat and either trotting into it or throwing their shoulder into it. |
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Location: Central Montana | luv2win - 2015-01-25 12:44 PM I use the outside leg to push their hip underneath them!
This ^ |
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| casualdust07 - 2015-01-25 2:19 PM
I usually just have to shift my weight forward and they will transition up to a lope. when teaching leads, I use my inside leg for the cue, and outside leg to keep their hip under. I also use my inside hand to keep nose tipped in and shoulder up but it's all subtle. Outside hand is helping keep the outside of the horse in frame.
This... If you ride colts and need to teach them to do proper lope departures then I keep my outside rein low and wide, inside with slight tip inside, outside leg slightly back and engaged inside leg on a bit to keep them from dropping in and a kiss cue, eventually they lope off from a stand just with sitting on outside hip bone (yours) and a kiss with light rein connection
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Outside leg pushing their hip in, inside leg to frame up. Slight tilt to their nose. |
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 Ms. Marine
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Location: Texas | I shift my weight forward and cue with my outside leg. |
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| BarrelRacing4Christ - 2015-01-25 9:47 PM
I shift my weight forward and cue with my outside leg.
In short, this. Lol |
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Location: on my horse | On my broke horse, I shift my inside seat bone forward slightly and make the smoochy sound once and we're loping. this translates to outside leg on and slightly back to push the hip into the lope correctly, and inside leg hovering for inside shoulder support on a colt.
I actually figured out that he goes entirely off the smoochy sound as well  my mom was on him across the arena trotting along and I jokingly made the noise to see what he would do and boom he stepped into the lope lol
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 Poor Cracker Girl
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | Nose tipped to the inside if needed and inside leg if it's a super greenie that won't keep the shoulder up off my rein alone, then outside leg to push the hip in and pick up the lead. My open mare needs the nose tip still, my colt does not. Go figure. |
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Location: Oklahoma | SaraJean - 2015-01-25 1:20 PM
I use both. My inside leg is forward keeping the shoulder square, outside leg slides back to push the hip in & pick up the lead.
This, along with picking up my inside rein |
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 Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | SaraJean - 2015-01-25 1:20 PM I use both. My inside leg is forward keeping the shoulder square, outside leg slides back to push the hip in & pick up the lead.
This on a horse that doesn't need oat of help. ^^^
If it's a horse that needs some help, I'll collect them up and push with seat and whole leg.
If it's a colt that's just learning leads and to really canter, I'll slightly tip their nose to the inside, open up the side rein, block the outside a little bit and use my legs and seat the same way. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | RoaniePonie11 - 2015-01-25 9:48 PM BarrelRacing4Christ - 2015-01-25 9:47 PM I shift my weight forward and cue with my outside leg. In short, this. Lol
You actually don't want to shift your weight forward, you want to sit deep and engaged. Getting forward puts the horse on their front end more and makes for a rough and unbalanced lope departure. You want them to lope off from the inside hind leg with elevated shoulders. |
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Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Three 4 Luck - 2015-01-26 11:35 AM
RoaniePonie11 - 2015-01-25 9:48 PM BarrelRacing4Christ - 2015-01-25 9:47 PM I shift my weight forward and cue with my outside leg. In short, this. Lol
Which is why they say leads start at the hip/ rear. |
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| I slightly tip the nose to the inside of the circle I want to make, squeeze until he picks up the lope, it usually takes less then a second. I know this sounds weird, but if he doesn't pick it up right away, instead of squeezing harder, I tip the nose more and that always works well. It is a method I use to do flying lead changes as well, the direction of the nose determines which lead I want them in. |
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Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | IowaCanChaser - 2015-01-26 1:17 PM I slightly tip the nose to the inside of the circle I want to make, squeeze until he picks up the lope, it usually takes less then a second. I know this sounds weird, but if he doesn't pick it up right away, instead of squeezing harder, I tip the nose more and that always works well. It is a method I use to do flying lead changes as well, the direction of the nose determines which lead I want them in.
I can see where that would help a horse that's a little further along.
I've had some colts that adding even more bend to the inside when they're not taking a lead will actually cause them to take the wrong lead because they pop the shoulder to the outside. Those are usually the athletic ones that can run just as easy on a wrong lead as they can a right one. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | Depends on the horse. Finished horses, I pick up the inside rein and say 'lope'. :)
Young horses, Inside rein, inside foot at the girth, outside leg shaping, hips pushing them forward....feeling like a human pretzel....waiting for the day I can say 'lope'. lol |
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 Career in Looney Tune Land
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Location: the high desert | Sorry OP hope you don't mind me asking this on your thread. What do you guys do when you ask the horse for a lope but they just trot faster faster? |
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Twin Sister to Queen Boobie
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Iwish - 2015-01-26 3:48 PM Sorry OP hope you don't mind me asking this on your thread. What do you guys do when you ask the horse for a lope but they just trot faster faster?
If it's a horse that's finished a lot of times collecting them up before you ask can help. Sometimes it's that they get strung out and don't pick themselves up very well and they'll just trot faster.
Young horses, I'll sit a little deeper to push and and exaggerate a bit with my legs and then spank(over and under) if they don't canter and need a little encouragement. I've found they do better out of the pen when they're learning to get a little more consistent. |
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