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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | I HATE it. This is the 2nd time it came in. I sent it back in October and it still isn't right. The only thing I like about it is the tooling I asked for. The stirrups were suppose to be forward hung but there not that's one thing he was suppose to fix when I sent it back the first time. When I asked him about fixing about it he said he wasn't loosing anymore money on it and wasnt going to build another one like it agin. Look at the pics and see if maybe I'm just being too picky. Maybe I'm OCD but the cross inlay looks awful.
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 I Chore in Chucks
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Location: MD | whats the make?
I wouldn't be happy about a cross inlay. Why'd you have to send it back the first time? |
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Location: Oklahoma | yikes. PM the brand of the saddle if you don't want to post it |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Crowned Image - 2015-01-26 10:23 AM
whats the make?
I wouldn't be happy about a cross inlay. Why'd you have to send it back the first time?
To fix the cross he originally had in it and fix the stirrups. |
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I Chore in Chucks
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Location: MD | TessBelle - 2015-01-26 11:28 AM
Crowned Image - 2015-01-26 10:23 AM
whats the make?
I wouldn't be happy about a cross inlay. Why'd you have to send it back the first time?
To fix the cross he originally had in it and fix the stirrups.
the cross was worse before?!  I don't think you're OCD. You pay a lot for these saddles and when they don't come out right it's frustrating. |
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Location: NC | I would like to know what saddle brand too since they have such horrible customer service... |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | Crowned Image - 2015-01-26 10:31 AM
TessBelle - 2015-01-26 11:28 AM
Crowned Image - 2015-01-26 10:23 AM
whats the make?
I wouldn't be happy about a cross inlay. Why'd you have to send it back the first time?
To fix the cross he originally had in it and fix the stirrups.
the cross was worse before?! I don't think you're OCD. You pay a lot for these saddles and when they don't come out right it's frustrating.
Oh yeah. It was tiny crooked and wasn't close to being proportional. |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | brand ? price etc.. i wouldnt be happy but depends on price you paid etc.. |
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The Advice Guru
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| Any saddle maker can make the stirrups forward hung, and it takes max 1 hr.
All you have to do is get a piece of leather, nylon, whatever wrap it around the stirrup leather at the top by the tree and have someone screw the ends into the tree under the fender where the front concho goes through.
I personally would find a different leather worker to hobble the stirrups forward that way I can wait while they do it |
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| I don't like it either....it looks like a Kindergartener cut the cross. I guess the good thing is your butt will hide it while you're riding! |
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Blessed 
Location: Here | I thought this saddle maker was a good friend of yours? from an early post? |
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Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
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| I agree, the cross looks dumb. |
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| SG. - 2015-01-26 11:02 AM
I thought this saddle maker was a good friend of yours? from an early post?
I thought so too.... did you use someone new? |
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| I'd post on his wife's fb page and ask if the cross looked crooked to her. Bet he'll be willing to re-do that seat if he is publicly outed for his less than stellar work. The quality on these saddles have never been great though. Not sure what you were expecting.... |
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Location: Lost in the swamps |  That cross is waaaayy off! Not acceptable! I would make him either give you a full refund, and return the saddle. Or refund you the cost of fixing it and have somone else do it, and I he dosen't, contact the better business bureau, and have an atty send him a legal letter. This is bad business!! |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | FlyingJT - 2015-01-26 11:10 AM
SG. - 2015-01-26 11:02 AM
I thought this saddle maker was a good friend of yours? from an early post?
I thought so too.... did you use someone new?
It is but he won't make another one for me. |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Saddle crosses on seats look dumb period because of the way the seat curves. I would get a new seat done and call it good.
Edited by Nevertooold 2015-01-26 3:26 PM
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Expert
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | I sent every on PMs. This IS NOT one of Jeremy and Leslie Bethune's!!! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Nevertooold - 2015-01-26 11:37 AM Saddle crosses on seats like dumb period because of the way the seat curves. I would get a new seat done and call it good.
^^^^ THIS......people expect miracles? |
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 Good Grief!
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | what did the saddle cost.....
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | NJJ - 2015-01-26 12:18 PM Nevertooold - 2015-01-26 11:37 AM Saddle crosses on seats like dumb period because of the way the seat curves. I would get a new seat done and call it good. ^^^^ THIS......people expect miracles?
I think it's creepy to sit on the cross......there I've said it! |
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Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | ...AND, this one looks like a construction paper cut out with blunt scissors.....sorry. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | mruggles - 2015-01-26 12:20 PM
what did the saddle cost.....
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Part I paid for part I worked for but the value is $1900. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | LRQHS - 2015-01-26 12:20 PM
NJJ - 2015-01-26 12:18 PM Nevertooold - 2015-01-26 11:37 AM Saddle crosses on seats like dumb period because of the way the seat curves. I would get a new seat done and call it good. ^^^^ THIS......people expect miracles?
I never thought about it. Now I will every time. But I may take it to a local saddle maker and have him put a new seat in it. |
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | LRQHS - 2015-01-26 12:24 PM
...AND, this one looks like a construction paper cut out with blunt scissors.....sorry.
It's Gator back lol. Doesn't show up well in the pic. |
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Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | TessBelle - 2015-01-26 12:41 PM LRQHS - 2015-01-26 12:20 PM NJJ - 2015-01-26 12:18 PM Nevertooold - 2015-01-26 11:37 AM Saddle crosses on seats like dumb period because of the way the seat curves. I would get a new seat done and call it good. ^^^^ THIS......people expect miracles? I never thought about it. Now I will every time. But I may take it to a local saddle maker and have him put a new seat in it.
Sorry lol. I think about things no one else does sometimes lol. |
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Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | TessBelle - 2015-01-26 12:44 PM LRQHS - 2015-01-26 12:24 PM ...AND, this one looks like a construction paper cut out with blunt scissors.....sorry. It's Gator back lol. Doesn't show up well in the pic.
And, maybe, you gave him a challenging object....perhaps you should have tried a simple square first lol. |
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Good Grief!
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | TessBelle - 2015-01-27 11:40 AM mruggles - 2015-01-26 12:20 PM what did the saddle cost.....
m Part I paid for part I worked for but the value is $1900.
well you paid a good penny for it, i would keep taking it back til it was exactly what you wanted......................how does it fit your horse (have you tried it yet?)
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Location: In the land of peanuts and cotton | mruggles - 2015-01-26 12:56 PM
TessBelle - 2015-01-27 11:40 AM mruggles - 2015-01-26 12:20 PM what did the saddle cost.....
m Part I paid for part I worked for but the value is $1900.
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Haven't tried this one but i have another one just like it but plain that I currently ride him in. I just wanted sonething pretty. |
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | TessBelle - 2015-01-26 1:03 PM mruggles - 2015-01-26 12:56 PM TessBelle - 2015-01-27 11:40 AM mruggles - 2015-01-26 12:20 PM what did the saddle cost.....
m Part I paid for part I worked for but the value is $1900.
m Haven't tried this one but i have another one just like it but plain that I currently ride him in. I just wanted sonething pretty.
That might be your next surprise since the consistency of trees of late can be scary and is why Double J started making their trees in house as they were tired of sending trees back.
Like I said...you just need a seat change. The rest of the saddle looks good to me.
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Location: Here | LRQHS - 2015-01-26 12:20 PM NJJ - 2015-01-26 12:18 PM Nevertooold - 2015-01-26 11:37 AM Saddle crosses on seats like dumb period because of the way the seat curves. I would get a new seat done and call it good. ^^^^ THIS......people expect miracles?
I agree and no one is going to really see it anyways because your hinney will cover it up  |
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Tried and True
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Location: Where I am happiest | I may be old school but I never did like any kind of designs in saddle seats at all. I love a classic solid seat. |
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Location: South Georgia | In my opinion, a saddle maker should not offer a custom option that they cannot accurately pull off with skill. Therefore, since he has demonstrated that the cross inlay is too difficult for him, I'd ask him to replace it with a solid seat. I wouldn't just accept the $1900 saddle with that appearance. He needs to make it right, somehow. |
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The Advice Guru
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| To me the cross doesn't look that bad, I have seen worse.
Personally I wouldn't worry too much about the seat right now, I would be more worried about the tree as the bars look a little narrow |
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Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
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| LRQHS - 2015-01-26 12:53 PM TessBelle - 2015-01-26 12:44 PM LRQHS - 2015-01-26 12:24 PM ...AND, this one looks like a construction paper cut out with blunt scissors.....sorry. It's Gator back lol. Doesn't show up well in the pic.
And PS, if I paid THAT much for a saddle and it looked like that, I would poop a ring around myself! That is crazy!
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Location: Nebraska | Nevertooold - 2015-01-26 1:09 PM TessBelle - 2015-01-26 1:03 PM mruggles - 2015-01-26 12:56 PM TessBelle - 2015-01-27 11:40 AM mruggles - 2015-01-26 12:20 PM what did the saddle cost.....
m Part I paid for part I worked for but the value is $1900.
m Haven't tried this one but i have another one just like it but plain that I currently ride him in. I just wanted sonething pretty.
Like I said...you just need a seat change. The rest of the saddle looks good to me.
kind of off topic, but when did Double J start doing their own trees? Was it fairly recent? |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | I agree with you ... BUT I also agree with the saddle maker. If you knew the difficulty of just puttiing in the seat alone with out the cross . You would be really happy to get a saddle in one piece. The saddle roll and all the stitching and all the lining underneath and all the conchos and the swell all must come off it. and all new leather must be used to redo the seat and all the layering underneath. Just to redo the maker .already took a 4 hundred dollar loss. Keep it wear it out a little and put it up for sale. Use the money to start over  and save a cow. |
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 Don't Wanna Make This Awkward
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Location: Texas | Okay I wanna know the brand too... I would NOT be happy with that.. Seems like maybe since you're a friend he didn't put as much effort or care as he would do for other customers? |
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| What brand is it? Sorry you're having so much trouble with them |
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 Shelter Dog Lover
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| It would bother me that I was not getting what I paid for. If it is too difficult for the sadle maker to make the cross look good he/she should not have agreed to do it. I would wonder if it would affect the resell of the saddle down the road. It may purely be cosmetic but someone may look at it and think it is not a well made saddle even though it might be. That is substandard work, I have seen tons of saddle seats with inlays that are crisp and sharp looking.
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| What brand is this? |
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