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| What are some questions that you always ask when inquiring on a horse (obvious and less obvious!)?? I think a less obvious one is "Do they trailer well?" People pretty much assume that they do! Never making that mistake again! I had to literally have a vet tranquilize a horse one time when I went to get it because it wouldn't load on a straight load! We tried EVERYTHING but she wasn't budging! That's a question that is now always toward the top of my list. Anyone else have a fun buying story or good question to ask? |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | As the seller, you people only get 10 questions, so use them wisely......after that, I refer you to my Secretary, Alison Tebbens. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | **Cowgirl Up** - 2015-01-26 3:33 PM What are some questions that you always ask when inquiring on a horse (obvious and less obvious!)?? I think a less obvious one is "Do they trailer well?" People pretty much assume that they do! Never making that mistake again! I had to literally have a vet tranquilize a horse one time when I went to get it because it wouldn't load on a straight load! We tried EVERYTHING but she wasn't budging! That's a question that is now always toward the top of my list. Anyone else have a fun buying story or good question to ask?
straight load as in 2 horse? If so, I DREAD when people show up in those for my weanlings. We have a 22ft stock trailer with a full back door. So when I practice loading them, they just bounce in and out a few times with their buddies when I back up to the roundpen. Then I lead them in a handful of times a few days in a row. NEVER have an issue loading them even in a slant later. But Hell hath no fury like a weanling not wanting in a 2 horse. I owned one for years and never had an issue, but going from a big trailer to a small one sucks.
To the questions;
*I ask if the horse will vet. They can always lie, and I will vet them before purchase if it is a riding horse, but I find more often than not if I ask that, they start coughing up "minor" issues the horse has.
*Ask if they have ever had colic surgery
*Will pick all feet up for farrier.
*If they are 5 panel N/N unless parents can be proven to be.
*Registration papers are in order and I want a picture anymore.
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
Location: PNW | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-26 7:43 PM
**Cowgirl Up** - 2015-01-26 3:33 PM What are some questions that you always ask when inquiring on a horse (obvious and less obvious!)?? I think a less obvious one is "Do they trailer well?" People pretty much assume that they do! Never making that mistake again! I had to literally have a vet tranquilize a horse one time when I went to get it because it wouldn't load on a straight load! We tried EVERYTHING but she wasn't budging! That's a question that is now always toward the top of my list. Anyone else have a fun buying story or good question to ask?
straight load as in 2 horse? If so, I DREAD when people show up in those for my weanlings. We have a 22ft stock trailer with a full back door. So when I practice loading them, they just bounce in and out a few times with their buddies when I back up to the roundpen. Then I lead them in a handful of times a few days in a row. NEVER have an issue loading them even in a slant later. But Hell hath no fury like a weanling not wanting in a 2 horse. I owned one for years and never had an issue, but going from a big trailer to a small one sucks.
To the questions;
*I ask if the horse will vet. They can always lie, and I will vet them before purchase if it is a riding horse, but I find more often than not if I ask that, they start coughing up "minor" issues the horse has.
*Ask if they have ever had colic surgery
*Will pick all feet up for farrier.
*If they are 5 panel N/N unless parents can be proven to be.
*Registration papers are in order and I want a picture anymore.
Those are some of the less obvious ones I can think of
I have NEVER thought to ask about colic surgery. Gosh, that is a good one. It is on my list now! |
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Location: Montana | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-26 6:43 PM **Cowgirl Up** - 2015-01-26 3:33 PM What are some questions that you always ask when inquiring on a horse (obvious and less obvious!)?? I think a less obvious one is "Do they trailer well?" People pretty much assume that they do! Never making that mistake again! I had to literally have a vet tranquilize a horse one time when I went to get it because it wouldn't load on a straight load! We tried EVERYTHING but she wasn't budging! That's a question that is now always toward the top of my list. Anyone else have a fun buying story or good question to ask? straight load as in 2 horse? If so, I DREAD when people show up in those for my weanlings. We have a 22ft stock trailer with a full back door. So when I practice loading them, they just bounce in and out a few times with their buddies when I back up to the roundpen. Then I lead them in a handful of times a few days in a row. NEVER have an issue loading them even in a slant later. But Hell hath no fury like a weanling not wanting in a 2 horse. I owned one for years and never had an issue, but going from a big trailer to a small one sucks.
To the questions;
*I ask if the horse will vet. They can always lie, and I will vet them before purchase if it is a riding horse, but I find more often than not if I ask that, they start coughing up "minor" issues the horse has.
*Ask if they have ever had colic surgery
*Will pick all feet up for farrier.
*If they are 5 panel N/N unless parents can be proven to be.
*Registration papers are in order and I want a picture anymore.
Those are some of the less obvious ones I can think of
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | LRQHS - 2015-01-26 4:36 PM As the seller, you people only get 10 questions, so use them wisely......after that, I refer you to my Secretary, Alison Tebbens.
 We had some people look at a mare we have for sale. They asked if she'd been injected, told them no. Then they wanted to know WHY??? |
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| This is a list of what I ask before we go look. I try to keep it short and sweet, but most of these are deal breakers for me, so I don't want to waste my or the sellers' time if I can get the answer over the phone.
Any past medical/illness/soundness issues colic etc?
Any visible scars?
Crib, Windsuck, Weave etc?
Snorty or Cold-backed? (not a deal-breaker for me, but I want to know before I offer to crawl on one)
Do you have papers in-hand and ready to be transferred?
If we want to go look, I try to line up a place away from the seller's home, I usually have the seller ride the horse first, so we can see how he or she handles the horse. My husband and I will both ride and see what we think. I will look in his mouth for straight teeth, watch him move and look for straight legs, and always tie him up somewhere while we are talking, so I can see how he stands tied. We are pretty picky about these things because re-sale value is extremely important to us. I understand there are a lot of nice horses out there that have flaws, but I think everyone should at least know what they are before they buy, it can make a difference on negotiation, even if a certain flaw isn't a deal-breaker. I have found that many sellers won't point out issues with a horse, but if you flat out ask them, very few will blatantly lie. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | SpaceCowboy - 2015-01-27 9:09 AM This is a list of what I ask before we go look. I try to keep it short and sweet, but most of these are deal breakers for me, so I don't want to waste my or the sellers' time if I can get the answer over the phone. Any past medical/illness/soundness issues colic etc? Any visible scars? Crib, Windsuck, Weave etc? Snorty or Cold-backed? (not a deal-breaker for me, but I want to know before I offer to crawl on one) Do you have papers in-hand and ready to be transferred? If we want to go look, I try to line up a place away from the seller's home, I usually have the seller ride the horse first, so we can see how he or she handles the horse. My husband and I will both ride and see what we think. I will look in his mouth for straight teeth, watch him move and look for straight legs, and always tie him up somewhere while we are talking, so I can see how he stands tied. We are pretty picky about these things because re-sale value is extremely important to us. I understand there are a lot of nice horses out there that have flaws, but I think everyone should at least know what they are before they buy, it can make a difference on negotiation, even if a certain flaw isn't a deal-breaker. I have found that many sellers won't point out issues with a horse, but if you flat out ask them, very few will blatantly lie.
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Location: MD | Is this horse going to kill me if I get on it?
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Crowned Image - 2015-01-27 9:13 AM Is this horse going to kill me if I get on it?
That's a fair question lol. |
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| *how long have you owned them
*medical history & vet name that sees the horse on a regular basis
*vices(not that they are going to tell all of them to you but we're always hopeful)
and then I look for the rest myself
*check teeth to see if they have evidence of being a cribber and look at the bars of the horses mouth
*vet checked
*watch how they ride for the other person
*ride them myself
Traveled three hours to go look at a horse. got there and could see visible swelling on one of the hind legs, watched the horse travel and he was lame. Asked the lady about it and she said that she noticed he was off yesterday and thinks he needs injected. YESTERDAY!! she let me drive three hours to look at a lame horse.... Plus the swelling and heat wasn't in a joint it was around the suspensory... I didn't even say bye, I just got in my truck a left. I was so irritated! I know things can happen over night and he could have injured himself the night before I was to come look and she didn't notice but to tell me you noticed YESTERDAY and she didn't have the decency to let me know..  |
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| I become a stage 7 stalker when looking at horses to buy. These are if it is an open horse.
1.) I want the registered name. I google and research verifying results any results or finding past owners.
2.) I want to know who started/trained it and I ALWAYS call them to verify that they trained it, see if they remember it, and if they will tell me any other tid bits.
3.) If the horse ran on the track I'll read the race charts, watch the replay if it is available, and even call the trainer.
4.) I will stalk your Facebook page looking for posts, pics, and videos of the horse.
I only ask the seller for registered name, past owners (really looking for who trained the horse right here), and then after that I'll ask further questions after my research has been completed.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 9:23 AM I become a stage 7 stalker when looking at horses to buy. These are if it is an open horse. 1.) I want the registered name. I google and research verifying results any results or finding past owners. 2.) I want to know who started/trained it and I ALWAYS call them to verify that they trained it, see if they remember it, and if they will tell me any other tid bits. 3.) If the horse ran on the track I'll read the race charts, watch the replay if it is available, and even call the trainer. 4.) I will stalk your Facebook page looking for posts, pics, and videos of the horse.
Alison Tebbens, put this one on "the" list lol. |
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| LRQHS - 2015-01-27 10:27 AM
astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 9:23 AM I become a stage 7 stalker when looking at horses to buy. These are if it is an open horse. 1.) I want the registered name. I google and research verifying results any results or finding past owners. 2.) I want to know who started/trained it and I ALWAYS call them to verify that they trained it, see if they remember it, and if they will tell me any other tid bits. 3.) If the horse ran on the track I'll read the race charts, watch the replay if it is available, and even call the trainer. 4.) I will stalk your Facebook page looking for posts, pics, and videos of the horse.
Alison Tebbens, put this one on "the" list lol.
BAHAHA Your list to ask or your list to watch out for? -_- <---(this is not a Chinese man this is the smug I got my eye on you face) |
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Location: Texas | Crowned Image - 2015-01-27 9:13 AM Is this horse going to kill me if I get on it?
lol I went to look at a "kid" horse for my son and beginner husband. Supposedly this horse hasn't bucked in 10 million years blah blah blah. Well I will not get on a horse before the owner does. He rode the horse around at a walk, I asked if he would get him into a trot etc. The man was reluctant but after I told him I wasn't interested then, he did. He about got lawn darted, and I still walked away.
Makes me mad when that guy knew I was going to put 2 inexperienced people on this horse and he still tried to sell him to me knowing he bucked.
As for questions. I am one of those people most of yall hate. I will ask a question even if the answer is in the ad. I will usually word it something like "In your ad you said he....". People don't want to write novels for ads, so I have found that they put the short and sweet answer. There is usually more to the story. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 9:31 AM LRQHS - 2015-01-27 10:27 AM astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 9:23 AM I become a stage 7 stalker when looking at horses to buy. These are if it is an open horse. 1.) I want the registered name. I google and research verifying results any results or finding past owners. 2.) I want to know who started/trained it and I ALWAYS call them to verify that they trained it, see if they remember it, and if they will tell me any other tid bits. 3.) If the horse ran on the track I'll read the race charts, watch the replay if it is available, and even call the trainer. 4.) I will stalk your Facebook page looking for posts, pics, and videos of the horse. Alison Tebbens, put this one on "the" list lol. BAHAHA Your list to ask or your list to watch out for? -_- <--- (this is not a Chinese man this is the smug I got my eye on you face )
It's our list of crazies and stalkers lol. It's Top Secret. |
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| LRQHS - 2015-01-27 10:33 AM
astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 9:31 AM LRQHS - 2015-01-27 10:27 AM astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 9:23 AM I become a stage 7 stalker when looking at horses to buy. These are if it is an open horse. 1.) I want the registered name. I google and research verifying results any results or finding past owners. 2.) I want to know who started/trained it and I ALWAYS call them to verify that they trained it, see if they remember it, and if they will tell me any other tid bits. 3.) If the horse ran on the track I'll read the race charts, watch the replay if it is available, and even call the trainer. 4.) I will stalk your Facebook page looking for posts, pics, and videos of the horse. Alison Tebbens, put this one on "the" list lol. BAHAHA Your list to ask or your list to watch out for? -_- <--- (this is not a Chinese man this is the smug I got my eye on you face )
I like making lists!
One time I was stalking a Facebook page just looking for general posts about the horse. I had asked the girl if the horse needed any maintenance etc. Girl replies, "oh no NEVER been injected 100% sound." I sigh a little on the inside anytime someone says that but I just chalked it up to well maybe she just doesn't know any better. I'm looking through pictures and theres the horse I'm looking at still sedated at the vets office after being injected. The girl posted pics of the horse with the caption ,"Hope this fixes ***** right up and we go back to our winning ways!" Also, her friends all commented with the horses barn name sending well wishes.
Be careful careful what you put out on social media!!
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| On the flip side, I am really not bothered by a lot of questions or people who do their research. I want the buyers to be informed and happy with their purchase. I try to disclose as much as I can, but it has come back to bite me before, because I will be so honest and then the buyers will go buy a horse of less quality and/or with more issues than mine because that person wasn't as honest with them! I think you can usually tell who is serious and who is not by what kind of questions they ask. If they live only an hour away for instance but want me to email or text them 300 videos and pictures, I usually won't even respond. |
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Location: So. Cali. | **Cowgirl Up** - 2015-01-26 2:33 PM What are some questions that you always ask when inquiring on a horse (obvious and less obvious!)?? I think a less obvious one is "Do they trailer well?" People pretty much assume that they do! Never making that mistake again! I had to literally have a vet tranquilize a horse one time when I went to get it because it wouldn't load on a straight load! We tried EVERYTHING but she wasn't budging! That's a question that is now always toward the top of my list. Anyone else have a fun buying story or good question to ask?
Yep. Ive shown up on two occasions now and not been able to get a horse in my straight load 2 horse. The first time I was warned the horse probably wasnt going to get in, but I'm stubborn and went with it anyways. 2hours later, I had to borrow their 2 horse slant to bring the horse home. The other occasion was more recently and I thought ahead and asked, Will the horse load in my straight load two horse? OH Yeah! Not a problem...Major problem. I ended up paying someone else to deliver that horse because I couldnt stand driving 2 hours and dealing with that seller again. Then there have been occasions that I've shown up with it without asking and havnt had a problem, one horse had been sitting out to pasture for 4 years and only been in a stock to their knowledge, 10 minutes and she jumped right in (literally jumped). Defiantly a question I now ask upfront...but hopefully wont have the straight load too much longer..
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Location: So. Cali. | Now to return to the original question, lol. I too am a stalker like others have mentioned. I dig up every little piece I can and don't hesitate to contact passed owners on horses. I even have friends who contact me first before purchasing horses to have me research. We do rescue horses and I do take in side project horses, so I have learned from experience you can ask and research all you want and still end up with suprises.... The last few horses I never even rode prior to purchasing..... |
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Location: SE Louisiana | The first question that comes to mind is "How old is this horse?"
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | SpaceCowboy - 2015-01-27 8:51 AM On the flip side, I am really not bothered by a lot of questions or people who do their research. I want the buyers to be informed and happy with their purchase. I try to disclose as much as I can, but it has come back to bite me before, because I will be so honest and then the buyers will go buy a horse of less quality and/or with more issues than mine because that person wasn't as honest with them! I think you can usually tell who is serious and who is not by what kind of questions they ask. If they live only an hour away for instance but want me to email or text them 300 videos and pictures, I usually won't even respond.
I am honest to a fault. I don't have any intention of scamming anyone. If I have a bad hombre they get sent to the sale barn fully disclosed and ran through loose.
I have a gelding now that is really nice, just won't stand well to be saddled. I have told everyone interested in him. The last thing I want is one of my horses getting passed around. |
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Location: California | I went and looked at a horse two weeks. They had body photos but nothing else, had a couple videos, ect. Horse was local so it wasn't a big deal. I asked if the horse was sound and they said yes very sound. Well I found out upon arrival that "sound" does NOT mean straight legged. Horse had the most crooked legs I have ever seen in my life. 3 out of 4 were awful. The horse did move great for the circumstances and wasn't lame but now I make sure and ask if the horse has STRAIGHT legs when asking if sound. |
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Location: Texas | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-01-27 11:02 AM SpaceCowboy - 2015-01-27 8:51 AM On the flip side, I am really not bothered by a lot of questions or people who do their research. I want the buyers to be informed and happy with their purchase. I try to disclose as much as I can, but it has come back to bite me before, because I will be so honest and then the buyers will go buy a horse of less quality and/or with more issues than mine because that person wasn't as honest with them! I think you can usually tell who is serious and who is not by what kind of questions they ask. If they live only an hour away for instance but want me to email or text them 300 videos and pictures, I usually won't even respond. I am honest to a fault. I don't have any intention of scamming anyone. If I have a bad hombre they get sent to the sale barn fully disclosed and ran through loose.
I have a gelding now that is really nice, just won't stand well to be saddled. I have told everyone interested in him. The last thing I want is one of my horses getting passed around.
I am one of those way to honest people to. The last horse I sold, years ago I had to remind my self to keep my mouth shut. I ended up trading adn was lied to on the trade, and I was completely honest. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Now that I have had some more time with horses (bought my current gelding after coming off of a horse hiatus and I know I missed a lot of questions but was very fortunate to have honest sellers) here are some of mine:
When was the horse started (assuming that it's and open horse)?
What injuries have occured and how much time off did the horse get?
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Do y'all remember the Craigslist Free Donkey Man? Lord, he was hilarious! Don't ask me for no pictures. You've seen one donkey, you've seen them all lol. And, I ain't got no time to chit chat about donkey's lol. |
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| Ive been told by some, I am too honest. I need to stop picking my own horse apart. I will tell you anything and everything that he did I didnt like. I do not want a buyer to have any surprises. Or ever my name to go out of someone's mouth. "Dont ever buy a horse from *******, she will sale you her headache." Bad news travels faster than good. But I want someone to be that way with me. My first question is always why are you selling them? And what are the quirks?
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| Registered name, breeding status (if broodmare), is she a cribber, and I think that's it. If it is for a client I ask more (ie: how does she do turned out with other mares).
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Location: MI | pinx05 - 2015-01-27 9:32 AM
Crowned Image - 2015-01-27 9:13 AM Is this horse going to kill me if I get on it?
lol I went to look at a "kid" horse for my son and beginner husband. Supposedly this horse hasn't bucked in 10 million years blah blah blah. Well I will not get on a horse before the owner does. He rode the horse around at a walk, I asked if he would get him into a trot etc. The man was reluctant but after I told him I wasn't interested then, he did. He about got lawn darted, and I still walked away.
Makes me mad when that guy knew I was going to put 2 inexperienced people on this horse and he still tried to sell him to me knowing he bucked.
As for questions. I am one of those people most of yall hate. I will ask a question even if the answer is in the ad. I will usually word it something like "In your ad you said he....". People don't want to write novels for ads, so I have found that they put the short and sweet answer. There is usually more to the story.
Pinx - I bought a mare last spring. Asked ALL of those questions - vices, buck, rear, 'what does she do when you ride her away from her friends', will she ride independently, any soundness issues, ladidadidah. The lady rode her, then my husband rode her. She had been out to pasture for a couple of months, so was a bit rusty, but the lady swore up and down she was totally safe for beginners. I knew the mare 10 years ago and she was completely safe then, so I took her word for it.
Get home. She rode ok this summer, a bit off, but thought she was sore so we tried some Pentosan, etc. My daughter was riding her this fall with me and the mare bucked a bit when we were cantering, and my daughter bailed and broke her collarbone.
I texted the lady recently to see if it was a recent behavior change. The lady literally says 'well, she used to buck a bit, but it was no big deal'. I was soooo upset - we had asked all of those questions, but what can you do. Now I have a mare that really is a decent horse, but a beginner child can't ride out a 'little buck'. I have the worst luck buying horses.
Anyway, I had someone inquire about a different mare I had for sale and she asked some good questions..."What does she do when she gets upset?" Any more though, I'd rather see the horse riding trails, at a show, hanging out, trailering before I take someone's word for it. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | LRQHS - 2015-01-27 2:07 PM
Do y'all remember the Craigslist Free Donkey Man? Lord, he was hilarious! Don't ask me for no pictures. You've seen one donkey, you've seen them all lol. And, I ain't got no time to chit chat about donkey's lol.
This one??
Precocious seven year old donkey with a penchant for opening gates, army-crawling under fences and waking up the neighbors at ungodly hours.
Loves to be groomed by everyone but the one that feeds him. Demands a king's ransom in the finest hay (only to pee all over anything that might hit the ground). Enjoys regular visits from the vet and farrier (as he routinely causes such a fuss that I need to reschedule).
Thoroughly loves (to chase and maim) dogs and other furry critters. Gets along well with pasture mates (that can out maneuver his back hooves).
Trailers well (probably).
Gelded, though would happily do again.
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Location: western Nebraska | I as the seller after answering all these questions then have a few of my own to ask the buyer. 1) Do you already think you know more about this horse than I do and will go home and put a different bit on him first day? 2) will you keep him on the same feed or at least give him a week at least to switch over? 3) Will you continue to do the maintence on this horse that I have started? 4) the biggie-will you give it a few weeks to get to know the horse and let the horse know you before you put alot of pressure on yourself to win? 5) at lastly- if you don't win your first barrel race are you going to start calling everyone and trashing the horse and me saying you got screwed over?
Everyone thinks the seller is always out to screw the new buyer but sometimes it is their own fault!
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | That one isn't bad, Komet, but the one I'm talking about was epic lol. He had 5 free donkeys and you were almost scared to call him after reading the ad lol. He said, "I don't have time to chit chat about donkeys. You want them, you take all five. If you have to ask your parents if you can have them. Don't call me. If you don't have a trailer. Don't call me. If you only want one. Don't call me." He went on a bit, but man, he was funny. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | doglady - 2015-01-27 7:09 PM I as the seller after answering all these questions then have a few of my own to ask the buyer. 1) Do you already think you know more about this horse than I do and will go home and put a different bit on him first day? 2) will you keep him on the same feed or at least give him a week at least to switch over? 3) Will you continue to do the maintence on this horse that I have started? 4) the biggie-will you give it a few weeks to get to know the horse and let the horse know you before you put alot of pressure on yourself to win? 5) at lastly- if you don't win your first barrel race are you going to start calling everyone and trashing the horse and me saying you got screwed over?
Everyone thinks the seller is always out to screw the new buyer but sometimes it is their own fault!
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Location: western Nebraska | paysonw - 2015-01-27 10:07 PM How many rodeos has he been in and was it in barrels or in the bucking string? Yours is good. I was looking at a horse that had been to the college finals in the Barrels, Bwk and the calf roping. I asked which was his best event and they said he placed at the college finals in the Pole Bending. Ok!!! Then I do my research and find out he was actually the companion horse for the goat tying horse.
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Location: run2win land | I always ask about bad habits or vices and then list them buck sppok, rear or crib. I also have them take a picture when they stick the horse for height because every single horse I bought off of here that was listed as 15.2 got off the trailer at just under 15 hands. I'm tall so its matters.
I have had bad luck this past year. One horse was extremely cinchy and woukd blow up when saddles, I was lucky and only got knocked down in barn aisle. Second horse had severe gate issue and reared straight in the air. Third had a tendency to spook out of nowhere and I got thrown breaking 6 ribs. I just bought a mare who when I got her home had separation anxiety and went nuts running around screaming and when I tried to ride wanted to go 100 miles and hour.
I was told each and every one of them had no bad habits. I understand buyer beware but this is ridiculous. Oh, this all happened in 12 month period.
I am very discouraged. I got them all re-homed (sold) and revealed every single thing I knew about them and put it in the sale contract. |
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Location: Oklahoma | swd - 2015-01-27 10:25 PM
I always ask about bad habits or vices and then list them buck sppok, rear or crib. I also have them take a picture when they stick the horse for height because every single horse I bought off of here that was listed as 15.2 got off the trailer at just under 15 hands. I'm tall so its matters.
I have had bad luck this past year. One horse was extremely cinchy and woukd blow up when saddles, I was lucky and only got knocked down in barn aisle. Second horse had severe gate issue and reared straight in the air. Third had a tendency to spook out of nowhere and I got thrown breaking 6 ribs. I just bought a mare who when I got her home had separation anxiety and went nuts running around screaming and when I tried to ride wanted to go 100 miles and hour.
I was told each and every one of them had no bad habits. I understand buyer beware but this is ridiculous. Oh, this all happened in 12 month period.
I am very discouraged. I got them all re-homed (sold) and revealed every single thing I knew about them and put it in the sale contract.
Swd, come see me. None of mine do any of that. I ride them & I'm 62 & don't ride except when it's pretty weather or I get the feeling. Lol I guarantee they're gentle & well broke, load, haul, tie & shoe well. The only problem is that the tallest one is 15.1. I like shorties. Easier for me to saddle & get on.
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Location: mi | Is the horse neat in his stall. Oh the time and money it saves me with my little corner pooper verses. The pig of the century brother of his. |
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Location: Here | doglady - 2015-01-27 8:09 PM I as the seller after answering all these questions then have a few of my own to ask the buyer. 1) Do you already think you know more about this horse than I do and will go home and put a different bit on him first day? 2) will you keep him on the same feed or at least give him a week at least to switch over? 3) Will you continue to do the maintence on this horse that I have started? 4) the biggie-will you give it a few weeks to get to know the horse and let the horse know you before you put alot of pressure on yourself to win? 5) at lastly- if you don't win your first barrel race are you going to start calling everyone and trashing the horse and me saying you got screwed over?
Everyone thinks the seller is always out to screw the new buyer but sometimes it is their own fault!
I agree. sellers have a right to expect as much from the buyer as the buyer from the seller. Horses are animals and need to adjust to their new environment and people. Basic questions are good and being informed is good but sometimes sellers feel their horses are being picked apart for no good reason. I also feel the price of the horse plays into the questions needed to be asked |
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| Heres my list of questions when looking to spend/buy my hard earned money on a horse currently running and competing! Am I considered a tirekicker?
-what division is currently placing and where
-does horse load/unload tie and trailer well
-any vices? cribbing, weaving, winducker
-buddy sour,cinchy ,buck or rear
-stall well for overnight
-does horse currently live in a stall in/out or on pasture?
-special shoeing? are they good for farrier? how are his feet and what size shoe if any does horse wear?
-medical history any past surgeries or colic
-papers// do you physically have them ready for transfer
-is horse on special feed,supplements or injections, is the horse a bleeder? (I like to know these things especially when I want to keep horse feeling its best
-if horse is not in my state I want videos
-gate issues, just be honest if they are hot and ready to rock and roll fine! But, if they are dangerous to the rider and others disclose this
- there is no perfect horse and they all have some quirks just be honest
-google is a wonderful thing
After I think the person is being honest I will set up a time and try and see and ride the horse! If I like the horse I will get a vetcheck and not by yours!
- Also, after you purchase horse. People have to realize that there is a transition period for horses relocating and adjusting from one home environment to another. |
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Location: run2win land | Diane, I wish you were closer. If I dont find anything soon I'll give you a call. |
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| I always ask a lot of questions. I drove 15hrs to see one and they failed to disclose that the horse had a big scar across its face and back legs from getting caught up in barb wire and had a nasty popped splint. I had asked about any scars or blemishes or injuries, you can imagine how furious I was to drive that far. Another one I asked about any conformation faults or anything as the pictures were poorer quality and I couldn't see a whole lot of my phone. They had shaved down one heel on the front foot because the horse was a grade 3 clubfoot and xrays showed navicular. |
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The Advice Guru
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| total performance - 2015-01-27 6:50 AM
LRQHS - 2015-01-26 4:36 PM As the seller, you people only get 10 questions, so use them wisely......after that, I refer you to my Secretary, Alison Tebbens.
We had some people look at a mare we have for sale. They asked if she'd been injected, told them no. Then they wanted to know WHY???
I get that question, as I have learned from this board there are many people who are anti injection |
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| astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 9:23 AM
I become a stage 7 stalker when looking at horses to buy. These are if it is an open horse.
1.) I want the registered name. I google and research verifying results any results or finding past owners.
2.) I want to know who started/trained it and I ALWAYS call them to verify that they trained it, see if they remember it, and if they will tell me any other tid bits.
3.) If the horse ran on the track I'll read the race charts, watch the replay if it is available, and even call the trainer.
4.) I will stalk your Facebook page looking for posts, pics, and videos of the horse.
I only ask the seller for registered name, past owners (really looking for who trained the horse right here), and then after that I'll ask further questions after my research has been completed.
That places a lot of stress on the trainer, as I am not sure if confidentiality comes into play. If the trainer bad mouths the horse and it gets back to the owner, it could cause loss of business, loss of money.
A lot can happen with a horse for good or bad within even months from when they leave the trainer. |
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Mrs. Troy
Location: western Nebraska | cheryl makofka - 2015-01-28 3:17 PM astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 9:23 AM I become a stage 7 stalker when looking at horses to buy. These are if it is an open horse. 1.) I want the registered name. I google and research verifying results any results or finding past owners. 2.) I want to know who started/trained it and I ALWAYS call them to verify that they trained it, see if they remember it, and if they will tell me any other tid bits. 3.) If the horse ran on the track I'll read the race charts, watch the replay if it is available, and even call the trainer. 4.) I will stalk your Facebook page looking for posts, pics, and videos of the horse. I only ask the seller for registered name, past owners (really looking for who trained the horse right here), and then after that I'll ask further questions after my research has been completed. That places a lot of stress on the trainer, as I am not sure if confidentiality comes into play. If the trainer bad mouths the horse and it gets back to the owner, it could cause loss of business, loss of money. A lot can happen with a horse for good or bad within even months from when they leave the trainer.
I agree with this. I guess it is always nice to know some history but I used to get in a lot of horses that the owners didn't get along with. Most of them were either sore or just needed some time to figure out what bit they liked and have a saddle that didnt pinch. Stuff like that. It didn't take long to fix them and they would be a new horse. So my discription of them would be way different from the last owner.
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