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| My colt, typical 3 year old likes to play in his pen and he keeps over reaching and springing his front shoes. Never had a problem for months, now he decides to do this on a weekly basis.  Farrier said to keep bell boots on him. THat worked for a week. He has typical race horse feet with thin soles and walls so he cant really afford to keep jerking these shoes! Only thing I have changed is he had to get pads this last time around for bruised soles.. Im thinking the pads might be causing the shoe to sit lower in the back and causing it.. Any ideas? Thanks! |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Tell your farrier to turn the heels on the shoes around so they are under the bulbs... |
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| komet. - 2015-01-27 9:02 AM
Tell your farrier to turn the heels on the shoes around so they are under the bulbs...
Funny you mentioned that, thats precisely what we are doing today! |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Crowned Image - 2015-01-27 11:42 AM
will he hot shoe one? or can you find a farrier to hot shoe? I don't have personal experience but it seems like it may be worth your while at least while your horses hoof wall grows down.
This is another option... Heat them up and cut the heels off the shoes so they don't extend out... This will take away some of the support tho. |
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| I use to think mine was just a shoe tosser, then I got a different farrier and he stopped tossing shoes.
But yes, if he has pads I find them harder to keep on. The only shoe my guy has tossed with this farrier was 5 weeks into a set of pads.
We also square his toes behind to prevent clipping. |
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| If he is consistently pulling shoes its NOT the horse unless there might be a lameness or other imbalance in his system.
If you keep seeing issues don't put a bandaid on it....find the cause. |
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| Balance the horse and the horse will quit pulling shoes.
Sounds like you have a farrier problem.
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| Same Farrier for about 22 years. He didn't start pulling shoes until we had to put pads on this colt. COlt was fine , with same farrier, for 4 months. I think he is either playing and feeling good, but most likely the pads are causing it. Its the only thing that has changed. I'm thinking about just taking the pads off and seeing if there is a difference. Will see after today! Im changing pens with him today to. |
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Location: Oklahoma | you could keep rubber pull on bell boots on them too. We did that with our young ones. |
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| True, the ones I have on now are just regular bell boots. |
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| Why were his soles bruised in the first place?
Is this the 3 yr old with slight navicular starting?
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | The horse is long in the toe. Get a farrier who will bring the toe back to balance and your horse will quit pulling the shoes off. If i were you and if possible leave the horse barefoot. |
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Location: Heart of Texas | My gelding started doing that, I put him on omega horseshine and he's stopped pulling shoes. he may have a vitamin deficiency.....try horseshine or farriers formula |
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Location: SE Louisiana | astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 12:31 PM
Why were his soles bruised in the first place?
Is this the 3 yr old with slight navicular starting?
This does not really matter. Any horse can step on a rock the wrong way and bruise a sole. |
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| komet. - 2015-01-27 2:02 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 12:31 PM
Why were his soles bruised in the first place?
Is this the 3 yr old with slight navicular starting?
This does not really matter. Any horse can step on a rock the wrong way and bruise a sole.
YES it matters. If this farrier is cutting too much off every time causing the need for pads it matters. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 1:05 PM
komet. - 2015-01-27 2:02 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 12:31 PM
Why were his soles bruised in the first place?
Is this the 3 yr old with slight navicular starting?
This does not really matter. Any horse can step on a rock the wrong way and bruise a sole.
YES it matters. If this farrier is cutting too much off every time causing the need for pads it matters.
Notice the phrase "Never had a problem".... |
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| astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 10:31 AM
Why were his soles bruised in the first place?
Is this the 3 yr old with slight navicular starting?
Farrier has NEVER used nippers on this colt. only rasps off a little and never removes sole. SO ruled that out. I think he bruised his soles right after he was shod Dec 23. I was at my other ranch and him and the other horses got to running and playing in the pasture. Since winter started the ground has been damp. Not muddy but certainly keeping those soles soft. Vet came out and we took Xrays. All clean except for the thin soles. Which he said was not surprising for an off the track horse. |
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| komet. - 2015-01-27 2:17 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 1:05 PM
komet. - 2015-01-27 2:02 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-01-27 12:31 PM
Why were his soles bruised in the first place?
Is this the 3 yr old with slight navicular starting?
This does not really matter. Any horse can step on a rock the wrong way and bruise a sole.
YES it matters. If this farrier is cutting too much off every time causing the need for pads it matters.
Notice the phrase "Never had a problem"....
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| cow pie - 2015-01-27 10:40 AM
The horse is long in the toe. Get a farrier who will bring the toe back to balance and your horse will quit pulling the shoes off. If i were you and if possible leave the horse barefoot.
NO WAY this colt can go barefoot. His soles are very thin and they would bruise in the drop of a hat. But yea wish I could.. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | On you tube look up pro poly podiatry. It is a rubber that adheres to the hoof once wet and applied.neat stuff and designed to protect the sole. Might be something worth using. |
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| cow pie - 2015-01-27 7:43 PM
On you tube look up pro poly podiatry. It is a rubber that adheres to the hoof once wet and applied.neat stuff and designed to protect the sole. Might be something worth using.
Thanks I will look it up now! |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Perfect hoof wear a better search. |
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| A three year old with shoes and pads on already??? OUCH...
Pull the shoes and leave him barefoot...let that colts feet get stronger......as the blood circulates through his feet he will build a stronger soul and stronger hoof walls........ |
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Location: So. Cali. | banjomia - 2015-01-28 12:39 PM A three year old with shoes and pads on already??? OUCH... Pull the shoes and leave him barefoot...let that colts feet get stronger......as the blood circulates through his feet he will build a stronger soul and stronger hoof walls........
Track horses take a beating at a young age on their feet. Many are shod so off balanced ( kept long in the toe causing the heel to become underrun and soles to stretch and thin) and so regularly, sometimes barefoot isnt an option, only can make the problem worse, especially this time of year.
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Location: So. Cali. | cow pie - 2015-01-27 10:40 AM The horse is long in the toe. Get a farrier who will bring the toe back to balance and your horse will quit pulling the shoes off. If i were you and if possible leave the horse barefoot.
This is what I was always told with a horse who was constantly over reaching and pulling shoes. Too long in the fronts, not getting enough break over. Many would think, Oh I'll square up the back feet so he stops reaching up, but really you need to be looking at the fronts.
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| Thanks all! Farrier came out yesterday and I think we got it handled. He only needs pads for a couple shoeings then he will be fine. He goes fine when weather is warm. Just lots of rain. |
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Ideas for keeping horse's shoes on!