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| I heard a rumor that the rodeo had a Muslim prayer said before a performance. I called the stock show to verify, the number is 817-877-2400. The lady denied it being a Muslim prayer, but specified it was done by an Imam speaker. An Imam speaker is someone that leads Islamic prayer, and a Muslim is someone who follows Islam. I cannot believe they allowed this to happen!
Evidently, they now have a religious sensitivity committee devoted to promoting world peace.
Nice cause, but the prayer at a rodeo led by an Islamic leader..terrible!
Edits for better definition of Imam and clarifying of my statement.
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| I'm going to say it and I don't care who I offend. That is a total disgrace for them to have that at Ft. Worth rodeo. Culture my azz! With the religious war we are fighting world wide against those people, that is insane. I hope whoever arranged that is removed from the board. I can only imagine how any veteran there had to feel. Grrrrhhhh!!! |
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Location: East Texas | SpaceCowboy - 2015-01-28 9:50 AM
I'm sure the PRCA was in the middle of it. They have been making all sorts of AWESOME decisions lately.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I would just like to say.....rumor????? Well.....we all know how that goes. I have seen nothing written about this with out the word...... RUMOR......was anyone actually THERE? and heard it????? |
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I would just like to say.....rumor????? Well.....we all know how that goes. I have seen nothing written about this with out the word...... RUMOR......was anyone actually THERE? and heard it?????
I called to verify. It happened. The number is as listed if you'd like to call them too. |
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Location: South Dakota | CrossDRanch - 2015-01-28 9:55 AM SpaceCowboy - 2015-01-28 9:50 AM I'm sure the PRCA was in the middle of it. They have been making all sorts of AWESOME decisions lately. Kind of like their tie down rule
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| can someone explain what the problem is with it?? I mean Muslims believe in Allah, which is the Muslim name for God. They believe in one God who created the universe and has power over everything in it, isn't that close to what we "Christians" in America believe. I know there is a difference because of their belief to not worship any other besides Allah and the punishments they put forth if done. But I don't think that the true Muslim is one of evil intent, so I don't see what the harm would be in them saying a prayer. I'm not saying this to be flamed but if someone would give me an explanation that would be great...
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | classicpotatochip - 2015-01-28 10:00 AM NJJ - 2015-01-28 9:57 AM I would just like to say.....rumor????? Well.....we all know how that goes. I have seen nothing written about this with out the word...... RUMOR......was anyone actually THERE? and heard it????? I called to verify. It happened. The number is as listed if you'd like to call them too.
I would like to see a text of this "Muslim" prayer before I made any assumptions.....there are several well-known Imams that have spoken (led non-denominational prayers, etc) in Congress, etc for peace, etc....and just to note....in the 2010 census.....Texas ranked FIRST in the nation for the number of Muslims....New York is second.
Was it good judgment on the part of the Rodeo Committee...probably not....will it impact your beliefs.....probably not.....
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| New tie-down rule disqualifies and fines $300 for a calf coming off it's feet before the cowboy touches him. It used to be just excessive jerk, like lading on his head or back, but this is if he falls down at all. I bet in a typical perf, over half of the contestants will be flagged out and fined. It is just crazy! |
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Location: NE Texas | SpaceCowboy - 2015-01-28 10:11 AM New tie-down rule disqualifies and fines $300 for a calf coming off it's feet before the cowboy touches him. It used to be just excessive jerk, like lading on his head or back, but this is if he falls down at all. I bet in a typical perf, over half of the contestants will be flagged out and fined. It is just crazy!
Are they implementing it at the rodeos like Denver and Ft Worth thus far? Will change the type of horses guys are looking for too, that's for sure! |
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| NJJ - 2015-01-28 10:07 AM
classicpotatochip - 2015-01-28 10:00 AM NJJ - 2015-01-28 9:57 AM I would just like to say.....rumor????? Well.....we all know how that goes. I have seen nothing written about this with out the word...... RUMOR......was anyone actually THERE? and heard it????? I called to verify. It happened. The number is as listed if you'd like to call them too.
Was it good judgment on the part of the Rodeo Committee...probably not....will it impact your beliefs.....probably not.....
If that is the case, and when the lady denied it to be a Muslim prayer, she probably meant that it was a non denominational prayer. I would also like to see the text of the prayer, BUT, I just have a feeling that the freedoms within which we enjoy a past time like rodeo wouldn't exist as such in an Islamic state.
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Location: South Dakota | FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:03 AM can someone explain what the problem is with it?? I mean Muslims believe in Allah, which is the Muslim name for God. They believe in one God who created the universe and has power over everything in it, isn't that close to what we "Christians" in America believe. I know there is a difference because of their belief to not worship any other besides Allah and the punishments they put forth if done. But I don't think that the true Muslim is one of evil intent, so I don't see what the harm would be in them saying a prayer. I'm not saying this to be flamed but if someone would give me an explanation that would be great... I am not a very spiritual person, no I don't know the bible, I am a person that hasn't made up my mind of what to believe but open to understand it...
You cannot compare Allah to God...There is only 1 God...there is only 1 Trinity, The Father, The Son, & The Holy Ghost...
Jesus Christ is the Son of God..He was crucified and died on the cross to take on the sins of the world...and to forgive them. He rose again on the 3rd day and He gives us the great hope of eternal life...simply by confessing our sins and asking Jesus into our lives...and having Faith in Him.
Christ offers the message of forgiveness...love..peace...Hope.
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| Well I can't find an official statement from the PRCA anywhere (I assume because they are so ashamed that they gave into PETA and other's agenda while screwing over the cowboys), but there are several news articles out stating that the rule did pass and it's a firestorm on social media from the ropers. I have heard the rule goes into effect in June. That also makes no sense to me. How can you drastically change the rules in the middle of the year? I do know they did not implement it at Denver or Ft Worth.
Yeah this is huge to tie-down ropers. Completely different kind of horses will be needed. Most top notch horses right now you wouldn't even be able to get a time on with this rule. |
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FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:03 AM can someone explain what the problem is with it?? I mean Muslims believe in Allah, which is the Muslim name for God. They believe in one God who created the universe and has power over everything in it, isn't that close to what we "Christians" in America believe. I know there is a difference because of their belief to not worship any other besides Allah and the punishments they put forth if done. But I don't think that the true Muslim is one of evil intent, so I don't see what the harm would be in them saying a prayer. I'm not saying this to be flamed but if someone would give me an explanation that would be great... I am not a very spiritual person, no I don't know the bible, I am a person that hasn't made up my mind of what to believe but open to understand it...
You cannot compare Allah to God...There is only 1 God...there is only 1 Trinity, The Father, The Son, & The Holy Ghost...
Jesus Christ is the Son of God..He was crucified and died on the cross to take on the sins of the world...and to forgive them. He rose again on the 3rd day and He gives us the great hope of eternal life...simply by confessing our sins and asking Jesus into our lives...and having Faith in Him.
Christ offers the message of forgiveness...love..peace...Hope.
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| FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 11:21 AM ridejg - 2015-01-28 10:19 AM FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:03 AM can someone explain what the problem is with it?? I mean Muslims believe in Allah, which is the Muslim name for God. They believe in one God who created the universe and has power over everything in it, isn't that close to what we "Christians" in America believe. I know there is a difference because of their belief to not worship any other besides Allah and the punishments they put forth if done. But I don't think that the true Muslim is one of evil intent, so I don't see what the harm would be in them saying a prayer. I'm not saying this to be flamed but if someone would give me an explanation that would be great... I am not a very spiritual person, no I don't know the bible, I am a person that hasn't made up my mind of what to believe but open to understand it... You cannot compare Allah to God...There is only 1 God...there is only 1 Trinity, The Father, The Son, & The Holy Ghost...
Jesus Christ is the Son of God..He was crucified and died on the cross to take on the sins of the world...and to forgive them. He rose again on the 3rd day and He gives us the great hope of eternal life...simply by confessing our sins and asking Jesus into our lives...and having Faith in Him.
Christ offers the message of forgiveness...love..peace...Hope.
Allah is Arabic for God.... Allah in translation is God. Why wouldn't they be the same?
they say in koran that christians are infidels their profet died jesus christ died on the cross and was resurrected
there is no comparison allah is not the christian god
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Location: South Dakota | FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:21 AM ridejg - 2015-01-28 10:19 AM FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:03 AM can someone explain what the problem is with it?? I mean Muslims believe in Allah, which is the Muslim name for God. They believe in one God who created the universe and has power over everything in it, isn't that close to what we "Christians" in America believe. I know there is a difference because of their belief to not worship any other besides Allah and the punishments they put forth if done. But I don't think that the true Muslim is one of evil intent, so I don't see what the harm would be in them saying a prayer. I'm not saying this to be flamed but if someone would give me an explanation that would be great... I am not a very spiritual person, no I don't know the bible, I am a person that hasn't made up my mind of what to believe but open to understand it... You cannot compare Allah to God...There is only 1 God...there is only 1 Trinity, The Father, The Son, & The Holy Ghost...
Jesus Christ is the Son of God..He was crucified and died on the cross to take on the sins of the world...and to forgive them. He rose again on the 3rd day and He gives us the great hope of eternal life...simply by confessing our sins and asking Jesus into our lives...and having Faith in Him.
Christ offers the message of forgiveness...love..peace...Hope.
Allah is Arabic for God.... Allah in translation is God. Why wouldn't they be the same?
They are not the same...it is difficult to explain, and maybe somebody else can do a better job of explaining, but the Christian faith is about faith in 1 God...not many different god's.
In the Old Testament...Abraham and Sarah were childless...God promised to them a child...and that they would have decendants that numbered like the stars in the night sky.....They were getting old and impatient, and tired of waiting on God to deliver His promise....so they went about and did it their own way. Abraham had a child with his servant Hagar, and they had a son named Ishmael...In His time...God delivered on His promise to Abraham and Sarah and they had their own son, Isaac...when this happened, Hagar was banished along with her son into the desert, and it is believed that was the root of the muslim religion. That is a very condensed version of the events, and it is complicated, but the history of the Christian faith is found in the Old Testament...heavy reading....The New Testament is about after Jesus was born.....telling us how to live, and how to have a home in Heaven after we die. |
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| ok, I don't think this is a place to have this conversation since it is a lengthy one and I could ask a million questions, but thank you for trying.. Maybe because I don't understand, I don't see the problem with the prayer - I mean unless it was a prayer for harm to be done to those at the rodeo.. |
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Location: South Dakota | FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:40 AM ok, I don't think this is a place to have this conversation since it is a lengthy one and I could ask a million questions, but thank you for trying.. Maybe because I don't understand, I don't see the problem with the prayer - I mean unless it was a prayer for harm to be done to those at the rodeo..
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| Our country WAS FOUNDED on freedom of Religion. It WAS NOT FOUNDED on CHRISTIAN religion only. Yes the founding fathers were mostly Christian but we have no official religion in this country. WOuld you all of had issue with a CHRISTIAN prayer before the rodeo? Course not. Thats why I think there should be NO religious speaking before a rodeo. Fair is fair. If you want protection from God ( Whomever you believe in) say a prayer to yourself before you compete. Pray to the God you think will have the most influence on your performance and help you stay safe. |
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| I'm not upset at the religion. This is not about the religion. This is about the group of people who come from a different culture than ours, a culture with it's roots in Islam. That culture might not condone nor support the freedoms in which we have our past times and livings in rodeo.
I don't like the idea of having a Muslim leading our prayers at something that their religion and culture might not condone nor allow if America became a primarily Islamic state.
People from Islamic states threaten our government, our President, our lives as civilians, our way of life, and our freedoms.
I can't help but feel threatened by small evidences of our Christian based society and values being sanded away by political correctness.
I hope I never have to live in an Islamic based society. I can't help thinking they would probably behead me and post it to youtube. Probably wouldn't be beheaded by the 90%, but by the scary 10% that were invited in by the peaceful and passive usurpation of the 90% |
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Location: East Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-01-28 10:46 AM
Our country WAS FOUNDED on freedom of Religion. It WAS NOT FOUNDED on CHRISTIAN religion only. Yes the founding fathers were mostly Christian but we have no official religion in this country. WOuld you all of had issue with a CHRISTIAN prayer before the rodeo? Course not. Thats why I think there should be NO religious speaking before a rodeo. Fair is fair. If you want protection from God ( Whomever you believe in) say a prayer to yourself before you compete. Pray to the God you think will have the most influence on your performance and help you stay safe.
Agreed..... I don't have a problem with someone of another religion saying a prayer. But along your statement that this country is about freedom of religion. Muslims want their religion to be the only religion and you are with them or against them. There is no middle ground, and they are willing to kill to make that happen. Many think that since they are not "religious" it does not affect them. Wrong.....it is join or die.
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Location: Kentucky | CrossDRanch - 2015-01-28 12:00 PM I have been watching "Sons of Liberty" this week......our government/country is not far from what lead to revolution.
I've been watching some of this too. However, there is A LOT of inaccurate information in the show. History posted a disclaimer saying the show is based primarely on fiction. |
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Location: /ARKANSAS | I have a hard time with racism, the Japanese world war , in theory I don't like Japanese, Vietnam Asians, I in theory do not like them either, and I have noticed that even TV commercials are becoming mixed races. I hate that I feel this way but I grew up writing to guys in Vietnam. I always wanted to be a soldier and applied three times but I would think about the SACRIFICES I would have to make, family, a child and just couldn't. What I hate now is almost all the Doctors are middle eastern, and if I am on the phone with someone that can't speak English so I can understand, I become unglued! I have been known to scream " Speak English!"My Dad had a middle eastern ER Doctor who transferred him to a middle eastern cardiologist, who consulted a middle eastern cardiovascular surgeon, who turned him over to the hospitalist that was of course middle eastern. And with all that said, I have patients that are all these races and I don't think about it, and I don't hate them.. |
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Location: East Texas | Murphy - 2015-01-28 11:02 AM
CrossDRanch - 2015-01-28 12:00 PM I have been watching "Sons of Liberty" this week......our government/country is not far from what lead to revolution.
I've been watching some of this too. However, there is A LOT of inaccurate information in the show. History posted a disclaimer saying the show is based primarely on fiction.
True, but most Americans have no idea of who these people were, the events that lead up to revolution, or much else outside of the Boston Tea Party.....even most don't know the how and why of that. Maybe if they watch this show, it will spark an interest, and they will look deeper into American History.
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Location: SE Louisiana | GLP - 2015-01-28 10:55 AM
This country was founded on christian principles not muslim principles. We would be just as backward as they are now if it were. I don't want them to get a strong foothold over here. I love being a woman but if I had to live by their principles and rules I would absolutely hate it.
This country was founded by people that believed in freedom to follow a religion of their choice. Just because there were more Christians does not mean it is the only belief allowed. Based on what you have said so far we might as well throw out all the Baptists because of the Phelps family.. Oh, and all the Mormons because of Joseph Smith. Who else do you want to evict from this "free" country? |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | CrossDRanch - 2015-01-28 11:12 AM Murphy - 2015-01-28 11:02 AM CrossDRanch - 2015-01-28 12:00 PM I have been watching "Sons of Liberty" this week......our government/country is not far from what lead to revolution. I've been watching some of this too. However, there is A LOT of inaccurate information in the show. History posted a disclaimer saying the show is based primarely on fiction. True, but most Americans have no idea of who these people were, the events that lead up to revolution, or much else outside of the Boston Tea Party.....even most don't know the how and why of that. Maybe if they watch this show, it will spark an interest, and they will look deeper into American History. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypiSFb-F5fA
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| ridejg - 2015-01-28 10:19 AM FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:03 AM can someone explain what the problem is with it?? I mean Muslims believe in Allah, which is the Muslim name for God. They believe in one God who created the universe and has power over everything in it, isn't that close to what we "Christians" in America believe. I know there is a difference because of their belief to not worship any other besides Allah and the punishments they put forth if done. But I don't think that the true Muslim is one of evil intent, so I don't see what the harm would be in them saying a prayer. I'm not saying this to be flamed but if someone would give me an explanation that would be great... I am not a very spiritual person, no I don't know the bible, I am a person that hasn't made up my mind of what to believe but open to understand it... You cannot compare Allah to God...There is only 1 God...there is only 1 Trinity, The Father, The Son, & The Holy Ghost...
Jesus Christ is the Son of God..He was crucified and died on the cross to take on the sins of the world...and to forgive them. He rose again on the 3rd day and He gives us the great hope of eternal life...simply by confessing our sins and asking Jesus into our lives...and having Faith in Him.
Christ offers the message of forgiveness...love..peace...Hope.
This is the problem I have with religion... How are to say your "GOD" is the one and only??? There are so many forms of religions in this world... Who is to say one is right over the other? How do we know one is correct over the other? We can't. We pick which one we choose to believe in and have faith in what we believe. The whole world is obviously NOT Christian.... so does that make everyone else in the world that isnt Christian, ignorant or just flat out going to hell? We must be tolerant to other people's beliefs... that is the only way we will stop all the hate going on in the world towards one an other. |
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| I hope you don't flame but to answer your question. From everything that I have read and understand of the Koren, Muslim faith tells the people that practice to kill the infedels ( which I believe is a non-believer ), so if you don't practice the faith ( being a Muslim ) your dead. I can not think of another religion that says believe or we will kill you! I have a problem with the prayer cause I don't believe that way. I have never saw a Muslim participate in a rodeo. If they did, then let them pray. They don't even understand the Cowboy Way! A couple of weeks ago (asking this ) didn't they have some sort of convention in Garland,Tx. where a non-believer wasn't even allowed inside the church? |
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People like to point at the Muslim faith and say they're violent......but yet in the Old Testement God ordered every living breathing thing including children killed. The Old Testement states a witch shouldn't be allowed to live and Christians burned people alive for suspecting they were a witch. Look at the crusades as well. Today Christians kill blacks still for their skin color or gays for their preference. Many churches don't allow women to speak in church and the wives still walk three steps behind, not to mention the child marriages and molestation that goes on in certain Christian denominations.
Are terrorists Muslim? Yes. But I don't think it's the religion that is the problem because Christians have been just as violent and our Bible is just as violent in the Old Testement.
I think the problem is the CULTURE of the middle east. Muslim or not, they stone their own daughters for certain things and women are no better than livestock. That thinking again is in non-muslim households.
We hate Muslims because they hate Christians and yet we Christians do the exact same thing by hating them. Where does it stop?
Yes, rodeo is an American Christian tradition. Times are changing and more than traditional Christians are attending. So I don't have a problem with non-denominational prayer regardless of who gives it-- God listens to my heart and what I am praying at that moment.
Besides, a lot of our Holidays that we enjoy originated from the exact same thing that everyone is fussing about. It was Christians trying to find a way to common ground and not offend because when you offend you definitely don't win any souls over.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Fairweather - 2015-01-28 12:36 PM I am a Christian Methodist.
People like to point at the Muslim faith and say they're violent......but yet in the Old Testement God ordered every living breathing thing including children killed. The Old Testement states a witch shouldn't be allowed to live and Christians burned people alive for suspecting they were a witch. Look at the crusades as well. Today Christians kill blacks still for their skin color or gays for their preference. Many churches don't allow women to speak in church and the wives still walk three steps behind, not to mention the child marriages and molestation that goes on in certain Christian denominations.
Are terrorists Muslim? Yes. But I don't think it's the religion that is the problem because Christians have been just as violent and our Bible is just as violent in the Old Testement.
I think the problem is the CULTURE of the middle east. Muslim or not, they stone their own daughters for certain things and women are no better than livestock. That thinking again is in non-muslim households.
We hate Muslims because they hate Christians and yet we Christians do the exact same thing by hating them. Where does it stop?
Yes, rodeo is an American Christian tradition. Times are changing and more than traditional Christians are attending. So I don't have a problem with non-denominational prayer regardless of who gives it-- God listens to my heart and what I am praying at that moment.
Besides, a lot of our Holidays that we enjoy originated from the exact same thing that everyone is fussing about. It was Christians trying to find a way to common ground and not offend because when you offend you definitely don't win any souls over.
I just think there's more than one side.
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | LP22654 - 2015-01-28 12:53 PM I have been to 4 different denominations of Christian faith churches. I'm proud to say I have never experienced any of the things your having reference to. They all believed in God! No one ever killed blacks or hurt gays in any way or children! That is Satan at work! I'm sorry but I would like to know the denomination that you are talking about. This the way I see it: We are all going to the same heaven or hell! Look at Westboro Baptist. To say all Baptists are like Westboro Baptist is like saying all Muslims are all terrorists.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Fairweather - 2015-01-28 12:58 PM
LP22654 - 2015-01-28 12:53 PM I have been to 4 different denominations of Christian faith churches. I'm proud to say I have never experienced any of the things your having reference to. They all believed in God! No one ever killed blacks or hurt gays in any way or children! That is Satan at work! I'm sorry but I would like to know the denomination that you are talking about. This the way I see it: We are all going to the same heaven or hell! Look at Westboro Baptist. To say all Baptists are like Westboro Baptist is like saying all Muslims are all terrorists.
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“[O]ne of the great about America is it doesn’t matter if you’ve been here five minutes or a hundred years, we have folks that come here, want to be Americans,” Jindal said. “They join our military, they start companies, they work to create a better community. And that’s wonderful. What’s not acceptable is people that want to come and conquer us. That’s not immigration, by the way, that’s colonization. If someone wants to come here and change our fundamental culture and our values. If they want to come here and they want to set up their own culture and values that’s not immigration, that’s really invasion — if you’re honest about it. Of course, the politically correct crowd when you say things like they’ll call you racist — but this is a particular threat we face. And if we’re not serious about this we’re going to see more lone wolf actors. We’re going to see more folks come into our country just like you’ve seen in other countries — the horrific shootings in Paris.” |
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LP22654 - 2015-01-28 12:53 PM I have been to 4 different denominations of Christian faith churches. I'm proud to say I have never experienced any of the things your having reference to. They all believed in God! No one ever killed blacks or hurt gays in any way or children! That is Satan at work! I'm sorry but I would like to know the denomination that you are talking about. This the way I see it: We are all going to the same heaven or hell! Look at Westboro Baptist. To say all Baptists are like Westboro Baptist is like saying all Muslims are all terrorists.
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:08 PM What a disgrace to America and all Americans.
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Location: Washington | Fairweather - 2015-01-28 1:12 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:08 PM What a disgrace to America and all Americans. I wonder what the native Americans would have to say. Technically they're the original American.
Don't get me started.....
http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwork.com/2015/01/27/ugly-precursor-auschwitz-hitler-said-have-been-inspired-us-indian-reservation-system
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:10 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 12:58 PM LP22654 - 2015-01-28 12:53 PM I have been to 4 different denominations of Christian faith churches. I'm proud to say I have never experienced any of the things your having reference to. They all believed in God! No one ever killed blacks or hurt gays in any way or children! That is Satan at work! I'm sorry but I would like to know the denomination that you are talking about. This the way I see it: We are all going to the same heaven or hell! Look at Westboro Baptist. To say all Baptists are like Westboro Baptist is like saying all Muslims are all terrorists. How many people have the Baptists killed in the last 20 years?
The KKK in its heyday was primarily Baptist. There are still many, many closet KKK members that are Baptist. A lot of extremist groups in the U.S. consider themselves of a Christian faith.
Komet good point - I think the IRA is a primarily Catholic.....of course according to many of the small churches here the Catholics aren't Christian-- that is a whole other discussion.
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Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:10 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 12:58 PM LP22654 - 2015-01-28 12:53 PM I have been to 4 different denominations of Christian faith churches. I'm proud to say I have never experienced any of the things your having reference to. They all believed in God! No one ever killed blacks or hurt gays in any way or children! That is Satan at work! I'm sorry but I would like to know the denomination that you are talking about. This the way I see it: We are all going to the same heaven or hell! Look at Westboro Baptist. To say all Baptists are like Westboro Baptist is like saying all Muslims are all terrorists. How many people have the Baptists killed in the last 20 years?
Komet good point - I think the IRA is a primarily Catholic.....of course according to many of the small churches here the Catholics aren't Christian-- that is a whole other discussion.
You have to look much further than a religion label.
BWAHAHA!! The KKK?
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Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:08 PM What a disgrace to America and all Americans.
I wonder what the native Americans would have to say. Technically they're the original American.
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:37 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:12 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:08 PM What a disgrace to America and all Americans. I wonder what the native Americans would have to say. Technically they're the original American. Thats right, we raped and pillaged, but have evolved past that while the muslims are just catching their stride it seems...
Again, being Muslim is not the issue.
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Location: The edge of no where | Here is the first post I saw about it from someone that was there.
1-817-877-2400. This is the number to the Fort Worth Livestock Show and Rodeo. Please call and inform them of how upset we all are that they decided on the most American Tradition we have and decided to open it with a MUSLIM PRAYER this past Sunday on the Lord's Day for Christians. Sorry but this is a huge disgrace to rodeo and slap in the face to us all. We can no longer sit back and do nothing, please voice your concerns and let them know we don't approve of this. I know I will no longer ever again support this livestock show or rodeo if they continue this type of disrespect. The guy to speak to and who decided to do this was Brad Barnes, Brad Barnes is the President and General Manager of the Fort Worth Livestock Show and Rodeo, I let him know just how much he disrespected the most Patriotic individuals and fan base of any sport, I let him know as a Wounded Warrior myself and Combat Veteran just how much he disrespected all U.S. Veterans and Soldiers, and gave him a good little extra piece of my mind.1-817-877-2400
This was posted on the Fort Worth Stock Show page. I'm sorry, but I'm very offended by it. I did call in and speak to Brad Barnes about it. They contradict themselves a few times below....
We would like to take this opportunity to separate fact from fiction:
There was never a Muslim prayer – or a prayer of any specific religion at the Stock Show this year.
Because the Stock Show is an annual community event that attracts many visitors from around the world, country and state each year, last spring, we established a faith-based committee consisting of a wide range of local clergy. We based our decision on and selected our participants from the Mayor’s Faith Cabinet Directory. We invited each participant to provide a one-minute prayer to include the safety of the contestants, animals and participants, the military men and women and world peace. Committee members include: a Cowboy Church pastor, a Catholic priest, TCU Brite Divinity School students, a member of the Clergy and Police Alliance, Christ Chapel Bible Church clergy, a Baptist minister, a Rabbi and an Imam. Last Sunday evening the Imam provided a very appropriate blessing as outlined above.
In addition to the daily pre-rodeo prayers, we hold Cowboy Church each Sunday as we have for decades.
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Location: CTX | I am not religious, but I can see how people get upset about this. And to be honest if there was a rodeo I was at had an imam do a prayer I would walk away.
I know, not all of them are extremists, but like already said by someone, that religion promotes hatred against all other religions. And if the muslims would ever come to rule this country we would be in deep deep doodoo! And a foot or so shorter.
I was deployed in the middle east once, and my husband five times, to fight for freedom.... so even though every organization has the freedom to do what they please, I hope most people will take that freedom to walk away and not support that organization anymore.
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Location: Florida.. | cranky B4 10am - 2015-01-28 7:31 PM I am not religious, but I can see how people get upset about this. And to be honest if there was a rodeo I was at had an imam do a prayer I would walk away.
I know, not all of them are extremists, but like already said by someone, that religion promotes hatred against all other religions. And if the muslims would ever come to rule this country we would be in deep deep doodoo! And a foot or so shorter.
I was deployed in the middle east once, and my husband five times, to fight for freedom.... so even though every organization has the freedom to do what they please, I hope most people will take that freedom to walk away and not support that organization anymore.
Just my two cents.
I agree and why now is all this taking over america? Our president shows them more respect then he does our troops .....and look at the world now.. ... this is not ok.. and Id have left to.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Bibliafarm - 2015-01-27 8:23 PM
cranky B4 10am - 2015-01-28 7:31 PM I am not religious, but I can see how people get upset about this. And to be honest if there was a rodeo I was at had an imam do a prayer I would walk away.
I know, not all of them are extremists, but like already said by someone, that religion promotes hatred against all other religions. And if the muslims would ever come to rule this country we would be in deep deep doodoo! And a foot or so shorter.
I was deployed in the middle east once, and my husband five times, to fight for freedom.... so even though every organization has the freedom to do what they please, I hope most people will take that freedom to walk away and not support that organization anymore.
Just my two cents.
I agree and why now is all this taking over america? Our president shows them more respect then he does our troops .....and look at the world now.. ... this is not ok.. and Id have left to.
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Blows my mind, some of the comments here. This country is heading for a fall. When people honestly defend, or just as bad, see nothing wrong with letting a Muslim pray before a rodeo, we got a problem.
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Location: on my horse | yankeeredneck - 2015-01-28 9:08 AM
http://www.calgarysun.com/2015/01/28/calf-ropers-angry-over-new-prca-regulation
PRCA released a statement saying that they had discussed changes to the tiedown roping but there was no voting involved and that it will be further discussed
http://prorodeo.com/news-display/2015/01/28/prca-board-of-directors...
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Location: North Texas | FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:03 AM can someone explain what the problem is with it?? I mean Muslims believe in Allah, which is the Muslim name for God. They believe in one God who created the universe and has power over everything in it, isn't that close to what we "Christians" in America believe. I know there is a difference because of their belief to not worship any other besides Allah and the punishments they put forth if done. But I don't think that the true Muslim is one of evil intent, so I don't see what the harm would be in them saying a prayer. I'm not saying this to be flamed but if someone would give me an explanation that would be great... I am not a very spiritual person, no I don't know the bible, I am a person that hasn't made up my mind of what to believe but open to understand it...
The below highlighted explains exactly why You don't understand and therefore 'don't have a problem' with this...............Read, comprehend and understand The Bible and then get back with me. In the event You do not change Your position..............Then there is nothing else for You and I to ever discuss again. |
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Location: North Texas | FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:21 AM ridejg - 2015-01-28 10:19 AM FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:03 AM can someone explain what the problem is with it?? I mean Muslims believe in Allah, which is the Muslim name for God. They believe in one God who created the universe and has power over everything in it, isn't that close to what we "Christians" in America believe. I know there is a difference because of their belief to not worship any other besides Allah and the punishments they put forth if done. But I don't think that the true Muslim is one of evil intent, so I don't see what the harm would be in them saying a prayer. I'm not saying this to be flamed but if someone would give me an explanation that would be great... I am not a very spiritual person, no I don't know the bible, I am a person that hasn't made up my mind of what to believe but open to understand it... You cannot compare Allah to God...There is only 1 God...there is only 1 Trinity, The Father, The Son, & The Holy Ghost...
Jesus Christ is the Son of God..He was crucified and died on the cross to take on the sins of the world...and to forgive them. He rose again on the 3rd day and He gives us the great hope of eternal life...simply by confessing our sins and asking Jesus into our lives...and having Faith in Him.
Christ offers the message of forgiveness...love..peace...Hope.
Allah is Arabic for God.... Allah in translation is God. Why wouldn't they be the same?
Obiviously You have not taken the time to study God's Word in The Bible vs Allah's Word in The Quran.............................
Elsewise, You would NOT be making this statement.
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Location: North Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-01-28 10:46 AM Our country WAS FOUNDED on freedom of Religion. It WAS NOT FOUNDED on CHRISTIAN religion only. Yes the founding fathers were mostly Christian but we have no official religion in this country. WOuld you all of had issue with a CHRISTIAN prayer before the rodeo? Course not. Thats why I think there should be NO religious speaking before a rodeo. Fair is fair. If you want protection from God ( Whomever you believe in) say a prayer to yourself before you compete. Pray to the God you think will have the most influence on your performance and help you stay safe.
Study U.S. History, specifically early 1800s and President Thomas Jefferson dealings with Barbary (Islamist) Pirates in Tripoly Libya. Then get back to me on American/Islamic Relations................................. |
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Location: North Texas | Murphy - 2015-01-28 11:02 AM
CrossDRanch - 2015-01-28 12:00 PM I have been watching "Sons of Liberty" this week......our government/country is not far from what lead to revolution.
I've been watching some of this too. However, there is A LOT of inaccurate information in the show. History posted a disclaimer saying the show is based primarely on fiction.
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Location: North Texas | komet. - 2015-01-28 11:15 AM GLP - 2015-01-28 10:55 AM This country was founded on christian principles not muslim principles. We would be just as backward as they are now if it were. I don't want them to get a strong foothold over here. I love being a woman but if I had to live by their principles and rules I would absolutely hate it. This country was founded by people that believed in freedom to follow a religion of their choice. Just because there were more Christians does not mean it is the only belief allowed. Based on what you have said so far we might as well throw out all the Baptists because of the Phelps family.. Oh, and all the Mormons because of Joseph Smith. Who else do you want to evict from this "free" country?
Again, I refer to U.S. American circa 1803 and President Thomas Jefferson's dealing with Barbary(Islamist) Pirates in Tripoly Libya........................ |
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Location: North Texas | WetSaddleBlankets - 2015-01-28 11:18 AM ridejg - 2015-01-28 10:19 AM FlyingJT - 2015-01-28 10:03 AM can someone explain what the problem is with it?? I mean Muslims believe in Allah, which is the Muslim name for God. They believe in one God who created the universe and has power over everything in it, isn't that close to what we "Christians" in America believe. I know there is a difference because of their belief to not worship any other besides Allah and the punishments they put forth if done. But I don't think that the true Muslim is one of evil intent, so I don't see what the harm would be in them saying a prayer. I'm not saying this to be flamed but if someone would give me an explanation that would be great... I am not a very spiritual person, no I don't know the bible, I am a person that hasn't made up my mind of what to believe but open to understand it... You cannot compare Allah to God...There is only 1 God...there is only 1 Trinity, The Father, The Son, & The Holy Ghost...
Jesus Christ is the Son of God..He was crucified and died on the cross to take on the sins of the world...and to forgive them. He rose again on the 3rd day and He gives us the great hope of eternal life...simply by confessing our sins and asking Jesus into our lives...and having Faith in Him.
Christ offers the message of forgiveness...love..peace...Hope.
'Man' does not. God DOES! Read The Bible. Don't trust Man, trust God!
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Location: North Texas | Fairweather - 2015-01-28 12:36 PM I am a Christian Methodist.
People like to point at the Muslim faith and say they're violent......but yet in the Old Testement God ordered every living breathing thing including children killed. The Old Testement states a witch shouldn't be allowed to live and Christians burned people alive for suspecting they were a witch. Look at the crusades as well. Today Christians kill blacks still for their skin color or gays for their preference. Many churches don't allow women to speak in church and the wives still walk three steps behind, not to mention the child marriages and molestation that goes on in certain Christian denominations.
Are terrorists Muslim? Yes. But I don't think it's the religion that is the problem because Christians have been just as violent and our Bible is just as violent in the Old Testement.
I think the problem is the CULTURE of the middle east. Muslim or not, they stone their own daughters for certain things and women are no better than livestock. That thinking again is in non-muslim households.
We hate Muslims because they hate Christians and yet we Christians do the exact same thing by hating them. Where does it stop?
Yes, rodeo is an American Christian tradition. Times are changing and more than traditional Christians are attending. So I don't have a problem with non-denominational prayer regardless of who gives it-- God listens to my heart and what I am praying at that moment.
Besides, a lot of our Holidays that we enjoy originated from the exact same thing that everyone is fussing about. It was Christians trying to find a way to common ground and not offend because when you offend you definitely don't win any souls over.
I just think there's more than one side.
I would challenge Ya'll to review this presenatation and then comment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y&sns=fb
There is a specific reference to The Crusades.
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Location: North Texas | Phoenix98 - 2015-01-28 1:20 PM I've read the (english translations of) the Bible (NIV and KJV) and Quran. Allah *****IS***** the exact same GOD as Yahweh. He is Abraham's God. In Islam, Abraham is a prophet, the father of both the Arabs and the Jews, through his sons. Some of the stories are nearly identical to Old Testament tales. There are more similarities between Islam and Christianity than most self-proclaimed Christians are willing to accept. Keep religion (all of them) out of government and we're all safer.
Then why does Allah condone to the point of calling for the killing of Infidels or die?
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Location: North Texas | Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:29 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:10 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 12:58 PM LP22654 - 2015-01-28 12:53 PM I have been to 4 different denominations of Christian faith churches. I'm proud to say I have never experienced any of the things your having reference to. They all believed in God! No one ever killed blacks or hurt gays in any way or children! That is Satan at work! I'm sorry but I would like to know the denomination that you are talking about. This the way I see it: We are all going to the same heaven or hell! Look at Westboro Baptist. To say all Baptists are like Westboro Baptist is like saying all Muslims are all terrorists. How many people have the Baptists killed in the last 20 years?
Komet good point - I think the IRA is a primarily Catholic.....of course according to many of the small churches here the Catholics aren't Christian-- that is a whole other discussion.
You have to look much further than a religion label.
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Location: North Texas | Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:45 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:37 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:12 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:08 PM What a disgrace to America and all Americans. I wonder what the native Americans would have to say. Technically they're the original American. Thats right, we raped and pillaged, but have evolved past that while the muslims are just catching their stride it seems...
The culture in that part of the world is the problem.
Not all people in the middle east are Muslim.
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Location: CTX | foundation horse - 2015-01-29 6:27 AM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:45 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:37 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:12 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:08 PM What a disgrace to America and all Americans. I wonder what the native Americans would have to say. Technically they're the original American. Thats right, we raped and pillaged, but have evolved past that while the muslims are just catching their stride it seems...
The culture in that part of the world is the problem.
Not all people in the middle east are Muslim.
And that is exaclty how it was in Europe during the crusades and in the dark ages. That is where these muslims are at right now, woman have no vote, they are just there to please men. And if you dare to believe in any other religion you will be an outcast. Is that really where we want to go again. I think not..... |
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Location: North Texas | cranky B4 10am - 2015-01-29 6:47 AM foundation horse - 2015-01-29 6:27 AM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:45 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:37 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:12 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:08 PM What a disgrace to America and all Americans. I wonder what the native Americans would have to say. Technically they're the original American. Thats right, we raped and pillaged, but have evolved past that while the muslims are just catching their stride it seems...
The culture in that part of the world is the problem.
Not all people in the middle east are Muslim.
Please watch the Youtube link I posted. It validates everything I am posting on this thread!
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Location: CTX | foundation horse - 2015-01-29 6:49 AM cranky B4 10am - 2015-01-29 6:47 AM foundation horse - 2015-01-29 6:27 AM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:45 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:37 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:12 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:08 PM What a disgrace to America and all Americans. I wonder what the native Americans would have to say. Technically they're the original American. Thats right, we raped and pillaged, but have evolved past that while the muslims are just catching their stride it seems...
The culture in that part of the world is the problem.
Not all people in the middle east are Muslim.
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Location: North Texas | cranky B4 10am - 2015-01-29 8:44 AM foundation horse - 2015-01-29 6:49 AM cranky B4 10am - 2015-01-29 6:47 AM foundation horse - 2015-01-29 6:27 AM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:45 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:37 PM Fairweather - 2015-01-28 3:12 PM Itsme - 2015-01-28 3:08 PM What a disgrace to America and all Americans. I wonder what the native Americans would have to say. Technically they're the original American. Thats right, we raped and pillaged, but have evolved past that while the muslims are just catching their stride it seems...
The culture in that part of the world is the problem.
Not all people in the middle east are Muslim.
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cranky B4 10am - 2015-01-28 7:31 PM I am not religious, but I can see how people get upset about this. And to be honest if there was a rodeo I was at had an imam do a prayer I would walk away.
I know, not all of them are extremists, but like already said by someone, that religion promotes hatred against all other religions. And if the muslims would ever come to rule this country we would be in deep deep doodoo! And a foot or so shorter.
I was deployed in the middle east once, and my husband five times, to fight for freedom.... so even though every organization has the freedom to do what they please, I hope most people will take that freedom to walk away and not support that organization anymore.
Just my two cents.
I agree and why now is all this taking over america? Our president shows them more respect then he does our troops .....and look at the world now.. ... this is not ok.. and Id have left to.
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Location: The edge of no where | It's been interesting to follow the fort worth stock show FB page. They've received a lot of complaints about their decision......so this morning they've changed the page so that you can no longer post comments to it and removed the option to post reviews. I'm hopeful that their phone is still blowing up today and that people do not let this issue drop. They've crawfished on their decision and attempting to do PR control at this point. If they don't like what you comment, they will delete it. I called yesterday and spoke to Brad Barnes for about 10 min and let him know I will take the time to follow up with their sponsors. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | foundation horse - 2015-01-29 7:10 AM Murphy - 2015-01-28 11:02 AM CrossDRanch - 2015-01-28 12:00 PM I have been watching "Sons of Liberty" this week......our government/country is not far from what lead to revolution. I've been watching some of this too. However, there is A LOT of inaccurate information in the show. History posted a disclaimer saying the show is based primarely on fiction.
While a lot of might not be historical, the fact remains is that there was a revolution. And, some of same things that happened then are happening now. People are sticking their heads in the sand saying "this isn't happening". When in all actuality our freedoms are being taken away right under our noses.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | 3canstorun - 2015-01-29 2:23 PM foundation horse - 2015-01-29 7:10 AM Murphy - 2015-01-28 11:02 AM CrossDRanch - 2015-01-28 12:00 PM I have been watching "Sons of Liberty" this week......our government/country is not far from what lead to revolution. I've been watching some of this too. However, there is A LOT of inaccurate information in the show. History posted a disclaimer saying the show is based primarely on fiction.
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Location: North Texas | txbredbr - 2015-01-29 7:44 PM You can read about their new Faith Based Advisory Group in the rodeo program - can you guess which group member is listed first?
Muslims/Islamist(s)? Do I win a prize?
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Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | foundation horse - 2015-01-29 8:05 PM txbredbr - 2015-01-29 7:44 PM You can read about their new Faith Based Advisory Group in the rodeo program - can you guess which group member is listed first? Muslims/Islamist(s)? Do I win a prize?
You guessed it. The list, with Muslim on top, looks alarming. I watched part of the video you posted - that was alarming too! |
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| Frikin disgusting! I cant believe the rodeo industry is pandering to these cave dwelling animals. |
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| my husband also called and voiced our opinion on this matter- but basically imo I think Christians are going to have to take a stand and not look the other way any longer- we will not attend a fort worth stock show to watch or participate and it will be the same for any other rodeo for us no matter what amount of money is up for grabs- this has all gone way to far if muslims want to have a rodeo let them have their own dang rodeo- they always want to come to America and change what we do to suit them -WHY ARE WE CAVING INTO THEM?!?!?! |
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Location: Colorado plains standing on a goat head! | A little searching on the Web shows he may be connected to some controversial groups. Christians, if led to do so, should stand up to this PC garbage!It seems like there should be more reaction to Sunday than we have seen!God bless America! |
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Location: Arkansas | Someone may have already posted this but, here is what the PRCA says on the tie-down rule... I did see something on the Muslim prayer too but, I can't find it! It was a statement from the Ft. Worth Stock Show.. I wonder if they would want to pray and bless all the pigs and contestants at the pig shows.. LOL I am also putting a response to the Muslim prayer by a friend on Facebook.. The Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association (PRCA) Board of Directors met in Colorado Springs, Colo., on January 26 and 27, 2015. The business of the association... was conducted and this included a discussion of tie-down roping rules. There was no vote to change the current PRCA rules for the tie-down roping event at PRCA rodeos. Actions were taken to move forward with formal discussions of the event and its rules. All facets of the industry, including contestants, will be involved in further discussions and will present suggested rule amendments to the PRCA Board of Directors.
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Response to prayer from Wayland Long.......
If you agree with a Muslim saying a "prayer" at a rodeo, then you and I do not agree.
If you read other people's outrage over this prayer, and then you condemn these upset people for "not being compassionate" or wonder in amazement "why cant we all just get along and sing kum-bah-ya" then you and I do not agree.
The reason we do not agree is because you would rather bow to political correctness than stand for what is right. You have bought off into the mentality that everybody should get a ribbon, and America should accept everybody and everything.
The problem with that is, at some point, everybody has a "line in the dirt"... where is the breaking point? At some point you have to stand for something. And that requires "judgement". My God, tells me not to judge, but he also tells me not to be a dumb ass. Watching institution after tradition after historical treasure fall is hard on some of us.
The other reason we do not agree is because you do not know the difference between "religion" and 'ideology". Religion is worshipping a higher power. Ideology is a set of ideas mainly rooted in economics and political policy.
My Saviour was born from a virgin, died on a cross, and was resurrected. He is the only human that ever walked on this planet free from sin.
Muhammad was a Jew-killer, who married a 9 year old girl, who says it is okay to lie about your Muslim affiliation in order to advance Islam, who promotes invading and overtaking, and killing any non-Muslim, or actually taxing them for not being Muslim.....
There has never been a single place on this planet, that after Muslims gained majority control, where a minority religion was free to practice in peace. Ever.
I still want to be friends with you. Someday you may have something fall that is sacred to you, and I will try my best to understand.
And based on where we are all headed, I will ****ed sure know how it feels.
Wayland Long....
Somewhere Down in Texas
Edited by Ethel 2015-01-30 12:55 AM
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Location: North Texas | txbredbr - 2015-01-29 10:05 PM foundation horse - 2015-01-29 8:05 PM txbredbr - 2015-01-29 7:44 PM You can read about their new Faith Based Advisory Group in the rodeo program - can you guess which group member is listed first? Muslims/Islamist(s)? Do I win a prize?
I prefer educational, but alarming works. |
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Location: North Texas | Ethel - 2015-01-29 11:57 PM Someone may have already posted this but, here is what the PRCA says on the tie-down rule... I did see something on the Muslim prayer too but, I can't find it! It was a statement from the Ft. Worth Stock Show.. I wonder if they would want to pray and bless all the pigs and contestants at the pig shows.. LOL I am also putting a response to the Muslim prayer by a friend on Facebook..
The Professional Rodeo Cowboys Association (PRCA) Board of Directors met in Colorado Springs, Colo., on January 26 and 27, 2015. The business of the association... was conducted and this included a discussion of tie-down roping rules. There was no vote to change the current PRCA rules for the tie-down roping event at PRCA rodeos. Actions were taken to move forward with formal discussions of the event and its rules. All facets of the industry, including contestants, will be involved in further discussions and will present suggested rule amendments to the PRCA Board of Directors.
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Response to prayer from Wayland Long.......
If you agree with a Muslim saying a "prayer" at a rodeo, then you and I do not agree.
If you read other people's outrage over this prayer, and then you condemn these upset people for "not being compassionate" or wonder in amazement "why cant we all just get along and sing kum-bah-ya" then you and I do not agree.
The reason we do not agree is because you would rather bow to political correctness than stand for what is right. You have bought off into the mentality that everybody should get a ribbon, and America should accept everybody and everything.
The problem with that is, at some point, everybody has a "line in the dirt"... where is the breaking point? At some point you have to stand for something. And that requires "judgement". My God, tells me not to judge, but he also tells me not to be a dumb ass. Watching institution after tradition after historical treasure fall is hard on some of us.
The other reason we do not agree is because you do not know the difference between "religion" and 'ideology". Religion is worshipping a higher power. Ideology is a set of ideas mainly rooted in economics and political policy.
My Saviour was born from a virgin, died on a cross, and was resurrected. He is the only human that ever walked on this planet free from sin.
Muhammad was a Jew-killer, who married a 9 year old girl, who says it is okay to lie about your Muslim affiliation in order to advance Islam, who promotes invading and overtaking, and killing any non-Muslim, or actually taxing them for not being Muslim.....
There has never been a single place on this planet, that after Muslims gained majority control, where a minority religion was free to practice in peace. Ever.
I still want to be friends with you. Someday you may have something fall that is sacred to you, and I will try my best to understand.
And based on where we are all headed, I will ****ed sure know how it feels.
Wayland Long....
Somewhere Down in Texas
To Wayland Long! He knows the score!
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| Our nation is turning into a bunch of pussy-foot, politically correct COWARDS and I do NOT see it going back the other direction. |
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Inflammatory prayer at Fort Worth Stock Show and Rodeo