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Mitt Romney announced he won't run.............
Frodo
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I like this guy very much but I'm happy he and his family won't have to put up with the liberal attacks and ridicule.  He doesn't deserve that and neither does his family.



 
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Can't very well blame him.  Anybody with any sense probably won't run.  I can't imagine trying to clean up behind Obama. 
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Frodo
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sorrel horse ranch - 2015-01-30 11:33 AM Can't very well blame him.  Anybody with any sense probably won't run.  I can't imagine trying to clean up behind Obama. 

Makes you wonder who will fit the bill for that horrible job.
 
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I think he would make a awsome vice pres. I hope whoever gets the nod considers him for a running mate. I still would LOVE to see Condaleeza Rice run.  
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Reg. Mar 2005
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Frodo - 2015-01-29 12:39 PM

sorrel horse ranch - 2015-01-30 11:33 AM Can't very well blame him.  Anybody with any sense probably won't run.  I can't imagine trying to clean up behind Obama. 

Makes you wonder who will fit the bill for that horrible job.
 

I wonder how the republican party can win.......you have some that don't like RINO's......which may tend to attract the swing voter that is tired of the democratic party,.......then you have the bible belt conservative that MUST be against homosexuality...aka same sex marriage.......and of course don't forget abortion..... aka war against women.........and don't forget class warfare........aka democrat Santa Clause....entitlement programs..........So who do we nominate?
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-01-30 3:00 PM
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Reg. Dec 2010
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I am SO GLAD to hear that. I like Mitt, he seems like a nice guy, but if he couldn't win last time what makes this election any different? I'm putting 100% of my support behind Scott Walker. I sure hope he goes for it.
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2015-01-30 3:50 PM
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I am happy Romney made this decision.

 
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Reg. Jun 2008
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 I would like to see a Bush/Romney ticket or Rubio/Romney ticket.
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NJJ
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2015-01-30 6:14 PM
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I think he made the right decision for HIS party......he lost because Republicans didn't support him the last time.... 
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Bear
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-01-30 6:15 PM
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Who the hell thinks Romney would accept being someone else's VP running mate? If he's not running to get the nomination, he sure as hell won't run as a VP running mate. Let's get real.

Condi Rice? Forget it. Won't happen. Again, get real.

Right now, Scott Walker looks like the best bet to me. He has held fast to conservative principles and has withstood a full frontal assault from the progressive-liberals in a state that has been traditionally quite liberal....three times in 4 years. They threw everything at him......unions, thugs, Clintons, etc.... He has a stellar record, and executive experience. He said what he wanted to do, and he did it. What more do we want?
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2015-01-30 6:20 PM
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So where are the interested Democrats?   I don't think it matters anymore.  This system is manipulated.  They are trying to pass a bill right now for Illegals to have the right to vote.  Gee.  I wonder what party will benefit from that?   *blech* 
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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-01-30 6:29 PM
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NJJ - 2015-01-30 6:14 PM

I think he made the right decision for HIS party......he lost because Republicans didn't support him the last time.... 

To be correct 3 million of the hard core base stayed home. He still received 60 million votes. So to say that the Republicans didn't support him I think is a reach. The question is whom is it going to take for the hard core base not sit on their hands this time. The primary's are going to be bloody but interesting. I am kind of bummed that he is not running I think he would have made a fine President. Let the games begin!!!!!
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Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2015-01-30 6:35 PM
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remember back then to their was still alot of heads in sand.. alot have turned on obama so no rep had a chance.. mitt was the best candidate and I think if it was a fair fight he would have taken it.....
lots of back door stuff happened as did the time before.. fake votes, voting 2 times. busing in etc...but some still beleived him.. now they dont..
but with illegals we dont stand a chance.. 
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Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-01-30 6:36 PM
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foundation horse
Reg. Aug 2004
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Itsme - 2015-01-30 6:36 PM Ron Paul!

I could live with Ron Paul, Bobby Jindal, Ted Cruz or Scott Walker.
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Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-01-30 8:47 PM
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Itsme - 2015-01-30 6:36 PM Ron Paul!

I think you mean Rand Paul.  I have a hard time liking that little curly-headed mutt.
Hotbear's right.  Mitt running as a VP would be like trying out for the A team with all your heart and soul and then "settling" for the B team.  Mitt ain't that kinda guy.

 
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Itsme
Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2015-01-30 9:57 PM
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Frodo - 2015-01-30 8:47 PM

Itsme - 2015-01-30 6:36 PM Ron Paul!

I think you mean Rand Paul.  I have a hard time liking that little curly-headed mutt.
Hotbear's right.  Mitt running as a VP would be like trying out for the A team with all your heart and soul and then "settling" for the B team.  Mitt ain't that kinda guy.

 


oh no, I meant that kook Ron...

We should have elected that other "Kook" in the 90s, you remember him?
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Douglas J Gordon
Reg. Jun 2008
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 The reason I say Mitt would be a good VA because do we hear about what the VA does? Not a **** thing. The president can go do his thing and Mitt could go work on things that would help get this country running again. He would be a great mentor for Rubio.
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 The reason I say Mitt would be a good VA because do we hear about what the VA does? Not a **** thing. The president can go do his thing and Mitt could go work on things that would help get this country running again. He would be a great mentor for Rubio.
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2015-01-30 10:10 PM
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Itsme - 2015-01-30 9:57 PM
Frodo - 2015-01-30 8:47 PM
Itsme - 2015-01-30 6:36 PM Ron Paul!
I think you mean Rand Paul.  I have a hard time liking that little curly-headed mutt.

Hotbear's right.  Mitt running as a VP would be like trying out for the A team with all your heart and soul and then "settling" for the B team.  Mitt ain't that kinda guy.



 
oh no, I meant that kook Ron... We should have elected that other "Kook" in the 90s, you remember him?

Are you referring to Ross Perot?
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Posted 2015-01-30 10:41 PM
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Itsme - 2015-01-30 9:57 PM
Frodo - 2015-01-30 8:47 PM
Itsme - 2015-01-30 6:36 PM Ron Paul!
I think you mean Rand Paul.  I have a hard time liking that little curly-headed mutt.

Hotbear's right.  Mitt running as a VP would be like trying out for the A team with all your heart and soul and then "settling" for the B team.  Mitt ain't that kinda guy.



 
oh no, I meant that kook Ron... We should have elected that other "Kook" in the 90s, you remember him?

Are you referring to Ross Perot?



"The "giant sucking sound" was United States Presidential candidate Ross Perot's colorful phrase for what he believed would be the negative effects of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which he opposed."



When the right, the left and the media throw you under the bus, you just might be onto something.
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Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2015-01-31 5:59 AM
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Itsme - 2015-01-30 10:41 PM
foundation horse - 2015-01-30 10:10 PM
Itsme - 2015-01-30 9:57 PM
Frodo - 2015-01-30 8:47 PM
Itsme - 2015-01-30 6:36 PM Ron Paul!
I think you mean Rand Paul.  I have a hard time liking that little curly-headed mutt.

Hotbear's right.  Mitt running as a VP would be like trying out for the A team with all your heart and soul and then "settling" for the B team.  Mitt ain't that kinda guy.



 
oh no, I meant that kook Ron... We should have elected that other "Kook" in the 90s, you remember him?
Are you referring to Ross Perot?
"The "giant sucking sound" was United States Presidential candidate Ross Perot's colorful phrase for what he believed would be the negative effects of the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), which he opposed." When the right, the left and the media throw you under the bus, you just might be onto something.

Many people erroneously blame Slick Willie for NAFTA. In reality it was George H.W. Bush. Also Herber Bush publiclly endorsed "The New World Order".  In retrospect, The Dude was scary!


 
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2015-01-31 8:28 AM
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I think a candidate with REAL executive experience will have a very distinct advantage over Hillary. Walker can point to his record and say this is what we did in Wisconsin while I was governor. They can look at what he said he would do when he ran for governor, and look at what they accomplished once he was elected. In the case of Cruz and Paul, it's harder to point to real accomplishments. Basically, the voters will have to compare and contrast nothing other than rhetoric when considering someone like Paul or Cruz with Hillary. In my opinion, that demonstrated success as a chief executive gives someone, especiallyWalker, a real advantage over Hillary.
When you think about it, what has either Paul or Cruz really accomplished besides give good speeches and firing up their supporters? Isn't that what we said about Obama?
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Bear - 2015-01-31 8:28 AM I think a candidate with REAL executive experience will have a very distinct advantage over Hillary. Walker can point to his record and say this is what we did in Wisconsin while I was governor. They can look at what he said he would do when he ran for governor, and look at what they accomplished once he was elected. In the case of Cruz and Paul, it's harder to point to real accomplishments. Basically, the voters will have to compare and contrast nothing other than rhetoric when considering someone like Paul or Cruz with Hillary. In my opinion, that demonstrated success as a chief executive gives someone, especiallyWalker, a real advantage over Hillary. When you think about it, what has either Paul or Cruz really accomplished besides give good speeches and firing up their supporters? Isn't that what we said about Obama?

Both Cruz and Paul have authored/sponsored legislation that supports The Constitution...............And while I agree with you in regards to Walker, Cruz and Paul already have the D.C. experience to 'hit the ground running' once in the Oval Office.

 
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Reg. Dec 2007
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I think voters, in general, are sick and tired of the "DC experience", Clay. Lately, we the people, have not been well served by the DC experience. Again, the idea of bringing someone to the White House who has actually done something outside of speeches and symbolic gestures, and outside of DC, has a much more broad appeal. Whether we care to admit it or not, the deep divisions in this country is one of our biggest problems. I like what Cruz says, and I like the man, but....where's the beef? Cruz is to the right what Obozo was to the left. After all, how much "DC experience" did Reagan have? With congress having a favorability rating of less than 10%, I'm not so sure I would use that as a strong selling point. In fact, I would tend to throw that line of reasoning out the window.
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Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2015-01-31 8:56 AM
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Bear - 2015-01-31 8:28 AM

I think a candidate with REAL executive experience will have a very distinct advantage over Hillary. Walker can point to his record and say this is what we did in Wisconsin while I was governor. They can look at what he said he would do when he ran for governor, and look at what they accomplished once he was elected. In the case of Cruz and Paul, it's harder to point to real accomplishments. Basically, the voters will have to compare and contrast nothing other than rhetoric when considering someone like Paul or Cruz with Hillary. In my opinion, that demonstrated success as a chief executive gives someone, especiallyWalker, a real advantage over Hillary.
When you think about it, what has either Paul or Cruz really accomplished besides give good speeches and firing up their supporters? Isn't that what we said about Obama?

For that matter what has Hillary done? As a Senator she accomplished zero. As Sec.State she spent all her time on a plane trying to put out fires started by her boss all of which are burning brighter than ever. So I would count that as a big fail. And yet the Dem's think she is great ...go figure. I do agree with you on Walker and his record.
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Reg. Sep 2004
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Bear - 2015-01-31 7:28 AM I think a candidate with REAL executive experience will have a very distinct advantage over Hillary. Walker can point to his record and say this is what we did in Wisconsin while I was governor. They can look at what he said he would do when he ran for governor, and look at what they accomplished once he was elected. In the case of Cruz and Paul, it's harder to point to real accomplishments. Basically, the voters will have to compare and contrast nothing other than rhetoric when considering someone like Paul or Cruz with Hillary. In my opinion, that demonstrated success as a chief executive gives someone, especiallyWalker, a real advantage over Hillary. When you think about it, what has either Paul or Cruz really accomplished besides give good speeches and firing up their supporters? Isn't that what we said about Obama?

I have to say that I'm fast approaching the solid opinion that whoever 'serves' in the WH should NOT come from the ranks of state reps because:  it's the job of state representatives to grow government, whereas, the job of the fed should be to minimize it.  In that regard I think Cruz & Rubio look pretty good!
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Bear - 2015-01-31 8:53 AM I think voters, in general, are sick and tired of the "DC experience", Clay. Lately, we the people, have not been well served by the DC experience. Again, the idea of bringing someone to the White House who has actually done something outside of speeches and symbolic gestures, and outside of DC, has a much more broad appeal. Whether we care to admit it or not, the deep divisions in this country is one of our biggest problems. I like what Cruz says, and I like the man, but....where's the beef? Cruz is to the right what Obozo was to the left. After all, how much "DC experience" did Reagan have? With congress having a favorability rating of less than 10%, I'm not so sure I would use that as a strong selling point. In fact, I would tend to throw that line of reasoning out the window.

You're trashing Cruz and leaving Paul out. Both have done more nationally than Walker, due to their positions.
Reagan was and is great. However, Reagan was/is an extremely positive and sucessful anomaly. Not saying I will not support Walker, just making the case for Cruz and Paul.

 
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Reg. Dec 2007
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Walker seems to have a real broad appeal across the spectrum already, including the Tea Party. The contrasts between Hillary and Walker are pretty stark. In my opinion, Cruz and Paul should stay right where they are. If the GOP can hold onto control of both houses, and capture the White House, they will have a chance to actually turn things around.
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foundation horse - 2015-01-31 8:38 AM

Bear - 2015-01-31 8:28 AM I think a candidate with REAL executive experience will have a very distinct advantage over Hillary. Walker can point to his record and say this is what we did in Wisconsin while I was governor. They can look at what he said he would do when he ran for governor, and look at what they accomplished once he was elected. In the case of Cruz and Paul, it's harder to point to real accomplishments. Basically, the voters will have to compare and contrast nothing other than rhetoric when considering someone like Paul or Cruz with Hillary. In my opinion, that demonstrated success as a chief executive gives someone, especiallyWalker, a real advantage over Hillary. When you think about it, what has either Paul or Cruz really accomplished besides give good speeches and firing up their supporters? Isn't that what we said about Obama?

Both Cruz and Paul have authored/sponsored legislation that supports The Constitution...............And while I agree with you in regards to Walker, Cruz and Paul already have the D.C. experience to 'hit the ground running' once in the Oval Office.

 

Paul and Cruz while both are good Senators and seem to support the constitution neither have any experience at running anything besides their own check book. Not enough IMO. The country needs a good Governor.
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Bear - 2015-01-31 8:53 AM I think voters, in general, are sick and tired of the "DC experience", Clay. Lately, we the people, have not been well served by the DC experience. Again, the idea of bringing someone to the White House who has actually done something outside of speeches and symbolic gestures, and outside of DC, has a much more broad appeal. Whether we care to admit it or not, the deep divisions in this country is one of our biggest problems. I like what Cruz says, and I like the man, but....where's the beef? Cruz is to the right what Obozo was to the left. After all, how much "DC experience" did Reagan have? With congress having a favorability rating of less than 10%, I'm not so sure I would use that as a strong selling point. In fact, I would tend to throw that line of reasoning out the window.

You're trashing Cruz and leaving Paul out. Both have done more nationally than Walker, due to their positions.
Reagan was and is great. However, Reagan was/is an extremely positive and sucessful anomaly. Not saying I will not support Walker, just making the case for Cruz and Paul.

 

I'm not really trashing either of them. All I am doing is pointing out my observations. I like them. Cruz gives a great speech, and it agree with him almost always. That was Obama's appeal as well.

Zero executive experience. That's the glaring difference. I would support Cruz if he won the nomination....but I doubt he will.
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Bear - 2015-01-31 9:09 AM
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Bear - 2015-01-31 8:53 AM I think voters, in general, are sick and tired of the "DC experience", Clay. Lately, we the people, have not been well served by the DC experience. Again, the idea of bringing someone to the White House who has actually done something outside of speeches and symbolic gestures, and outside of DC, has a much more broad appeal. Whether we care to admit it or not, the deep divisions in this country is one of our biggest problems. I like what Cruz says, and I like the man, but....where's the beef? Cruz is to the right what Obozo was to the left. After all, how much "DC experience" did Reagan have? With congress having a favorability rating of less than 10%, I'm not so sure I would use that as a strong selling point. In fact, I would tend to throw that line of reasoning out the window.
You're trashing Cruz and leaving Paul out. Both have done more nationally than Walker, due to their positions.

Reagan was and is great. However, Reagan was/is an extremely positive and sucessful anomaly. Not saying I will not support Walker, just making the case for Cruz and Paul.


 
I'm not really trashing either of them. All I am doing is pointing out my observations. I like them. Cruz gives a great speech, and it agree with him almost always. That was Obama's appeal as well. Zero executive experience. That's the glaring difference. I would support Cruz if he won the nomination....but I doubt he will.

I agree, I think Ted Cruz is just a great speech maker and a motivator….However, out of 104 bills and amendments sponsored and introduced by him, only ONE passed the senate and only ONE made it to law……This concerns me more than anything……..from Jan 2013 to Jan 2015, Cruz missed 45 of 706 roll call votes, which is 6.4%. This is worse than the median of 1.7% among the lifetime records of senators currently serving.
 
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I think Norma makes some good points. I have to be honest and think back to 2008 when I used Obama's lack of executive experience and actual accomplishments as reasons why he wasn't qualified to be president. As much as I like what Cruz says, in reality, I would be no different than Obama's supporters were back then.....in the eyes of Democrats. They would be justified in calling me hypocritical, or at least of having double standards.
Who among us remembers Mark Sanford? He was a front runner and a darling of the conservative Republicans. It turned out he was a hypocrite, a crook, and a lecher. I'm not saying Cruz is any of those things, but I'm not going to get overly excited about him just because he is a gifted orator.
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Bear - 2015-01-31 2:01 PM I think Norma makes some good points. I have to be honest and think back to 2008 when I used Obama's lack of executive experience and actual accomplishments as reasons why he wasn't qualified to be president. As much as I like what Cruz says, in reality, I would be no different than Obama's supporters were back then.....in the eyes of Democrats. They would be justified in calling me hypocritical, or at least of having double standards. Who among us remembers Mark Sanford? He was a front runner and a darling of the conservative Republicans. It turned out he was a hypocrite, a crook, and a lecher. I'm not saying Cruz is any of those things, but I'm not going to get overly excited about him just because he is a gifted orator.
No doubt he has a gift for speaking, however, the content of his speech is what I like...at least most of it.  He is a Constitutionalist, even though I feel he still leans too far to the right when it comes to wanting to legislate morality...that will be the downfall of the TP. 
Our Founding Fathers didn't have the executive experience, either...I think it can certainly be a hinderance (experience!)...Obama's problem is that he thinks HE is the expert on all things, he doesn't have a good, strong cabinet or admisnistrative body that he will take advice from.   I see no comparison between Cruz & Obama.


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Bear - 2015-01-31 2:01 PM I think Norma makes some good points. I have to be honest and think back to 2008 when I used Obama's lack of executive experience and actual accomplishments as reasons why he wasn't qualified to be president. As much as I like what Cruz says, in reality, I would be no different than Obama's supporters were back then.....in the eyes of Democrats. They would be justified in calling me hypocritical, or at least of having double standards. Who among us remembers Mark Sanford? He was a front runner and a darling of the conservative Republicans. It turned out he was a hypocrite, a crook, and a lecher. I'm not saying Cruz is any of those things, but I'm not going to get overly excited about him just because he is a gifted orator.
No doubt he has a gift for speaking, however, the content of his speech is what I like...at least most of it.  He is a Constitutionalist, even though I feel he still leans too far to the right when it comes to wanting to legislate morality...that will be the downfall of the TP. 
Our Founding Fathers didn't have the executive experience, either...I think it can certainly be a hinderance (experience!)...Obama's problem is that he thinks HE is the expert on all things, he doesn't have a good, strong cabinet or admisnistrative body that he will take advice from.   I see no comparison between Cruz & Obama.

Cruz is to us on the right as Obama is to those on the left. I find the similarity to be quite striking, actually.

As to the Tea Party and their desire to legislate morality, I don't know where that idea came from. That has been a mischaracterization. In fact, if anything, I would say the Tea Party originated with a heavy libertarian leaning, if anything. Legislating morality is hardly a Libertarian precept. Conservatives have allowed the media to convince the general public that the Tea Party is a bunch of white, racist, religious zealots. Nothing could be further from the truth, as far as I'm concerned. The Tea Party to me is a movement based on a goal of smaller, less intrusive government, lower taxation, debt and deficit reduction, and adherence to the Constitution.
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Bear - 2015-01-31 4:27 PM
musikmaker - 2015-01-31 3:51 PM
Bear - 2015-01-31 2:01 PM I think Norma makes some good points. I have to be honest and think back to 2008 when I used Obama's lack of executive experience and actual accomplishments as reasons why he wasn't qualified to be president. As much as I like what Cruz says, in reality, I would be no different than Obama's supporters were back then.....in the eyes of Democrats. They would be justified in calling me hypocritical, or at least of having double standards. Who among us remembers Mark Sanford? He was a front runner and a darling of the conservative Republicans. It turned out he was a hypocrite, a crook, and a lecher. I'm not saying Cruz is any of those things, but I'm not going to get overly excited about him just because he is a gifted orator.
No doubt he has a gift for speaking, however, the content of his speech is what I like...at least most of it.  He is a Constitutionalist, even though I feel he still leans too far to the right when it comes to wanting to legislate morality...that will be the downfall of the TP. 

Our Founding Fathers didn't have the executive experience, either...I think it can certainly be a hinderance (experience!)...Obama's problem is that he thinks HE is the expert on all things, he doesn't have a good, strong cabinet or admisnistrative body that he will take advice from.   I see no comparison between Cruz & Obama.
Cruz is to us on the right as Obama is to those on the left. I find the similarity to be quite striking, actually. As to the Tea Party and their desire to legislate morality, I don't know where that idea came from. That has been a mischaracterization. In fact, if anything, I would say the Tea Party originated with a heavy libertarian leaning, if anything. Legislating morality is hardly a Libertarian precept. Conservatives have allowed the media to convince the general public that the Tea Party is a bunch of white, racist, religious zealots. Nothing could be further from the truth, as far as I'm concerned. The Tea Party to me is a movement based on a goal of smaller, less intrusive government, lower taxation, debt and deficit reduction, and adherence to the Constitution.

They should stick to constitutional issues then.  You know I'm very much a constitutionalist, I also believe that I'm the only one who will have to answer to my maker for my decisions.  They made a major mistake and shut the door for a lot of possible support when they, first thing, went after the whatever bill about fetal pain then go after gay marriage...these right wing groups saw an opportunity to push an agenda, no different than the liberal groups do, that further divides our country. They would be smart to stick with the real issues that affect ALL of us...the general population (think: promote the general welfare), not a self-selected few (think: the rw zealots & those who choose abortion).
We need someone who wishes to lead us towards fixing our broken country...protect our borders, stop the insane gov't spending, the huge tax burden we all carry, let the free enterprise system work & provide jobs, get the fed out of our everday life and give us smaller gov't...there are so many things that could propel us towards making better personal choices.  Making another 'law' doesn't work.  People need to be inspired to better themselves.
Well...we've all talked this to death over the years!  Lol..it has been fun, kinda sad now and tiring.  I just hope & pray that somebody picks up the torch and inspires American Greatness again...with love & forgiveness rather than force.

 
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The argument between Bear and MM is symbolic of a serious fatal problem with Right wingers.  TEA and I mean the ACTUAL TEA party cares about nothing else then reducing Federal Govt. taxes, control and restoring state rights.  However, when the movement caught fire than all other kinds of right wingers jumped on the TEA wagon and screwed up the entire original message and now nobody actually can find the real core of TEA.  
  Republicans are so disenchanted with their party that they have cut themselves up like a pizza into segments and can't come together enough to beat the Zombie followers of the Democrats.  We won't win this election unless magic happens and someone steps up to the plate that can appeal to all the fragments of the GOP.    
  Here's what else that's funny.  Say we all come together and decide John Doe is perfect and speaks to us all ....  Wont' matter.  We are a party that controls the rural communities and states with low electoral besides TX and FL.   While the Dems have most of the big cities and high electoral. 

What I'm saying is..... buy extra Vaseline or take up knitting.  Forget about it. 
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RidenFly - 2015-01-31 7:13 PM The argument between Bear and MM is symbolic of a serious fatal problem with Right wingers.  TEA and I mean the ACTUAL TEA party cares about nothing else then reducing Federal Govt. taxes, control and restoring state rights.  However, when the movement caught fire than all other kinds of right wingers jumped on the TEA wagon and screwed up the entire original message and now nobody actually can find the real core of TEA.  

  Republicans are so disenchanted with their party that they have cut themselves up like a pizza into segments and can't come together enough to beat the Zombie followers of the Democrats.  We won't win this election unless magic happens and someone steps up to the plate that can appeal to all the fragments of the GOP.    

  Here's what else that's funny.  Say we all come together and decide John Doe is perfect and speaks to us all ....  Wont' matter.  We are a party that controls the rural communities and states with low electoral besides TX and FL.   While the Dems have most of the big cities and high electoral. 



What I'm saying is..... buy extra Vaseline or take up knitting.  Forget about it. 

 Any other choices?  Like booze? Lol.
Obama ain't going anywhere anyhow. 

 
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 The reason I say Mitt would be a good VA because do we hear about what the VA does? Not a **** thing. The president can go do his thing and Mitt could go work on things that would help get this country running again. He would be a great mentor for Rubio.
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That's really what I was saying, Riden. The TEA Party wasn't about legislating morality, even though many who called themselves TEA Party members considered social engineering an important component. The TEA Party allowed themselves to be mischaracterized by the media.
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sorrel horse ranch - 2015-01-30 11:33 AM Can't very well blame him.  Anybody with any sense probably won't run.  I can't imagine trying to clean up behind Obama. 

Obama cleaned up the mess left by W pretty well. Mitt is not running because Mitt can't win. It's not that difficult to figure out. 
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jd&ez - 2015-02-01 10:56 AM
sorrel horse ranch - 2015-01-30 11:33 AM Can't very well blame him.  Anybody with any sense probably won't run.  I can't imagine trying to clean up behind Obama. 
Obama cleaned up the mess left by W pretty well. Mitt is not running because Mitt can't win. It's not that difficult to figure out. 
Why is it liberals forget about the part where this country is an astounding $18 trillion dollars in debt.
Bush.....seriously?

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jd&ez - 2015-02-01 10:56 AM

sorrel horse ranch - 2015-01-30 11:33 AM Can't very well blame him.  Anybody with any sense probably won't run.  I can't imagine trying to clean up behind Obama. 

Obama cleaned up the mess left by W pretty well. Mitt is not running because Mitt can't win. It's not that difficult to figure out. 

I stand corrected. The country is united behind Obozo. He has created a socialist utopia, as he promised. The world has a newfound respect for the USA. Obozo has brought class and dignity to the office. He is proof positive that all needn't have any experience, nor do you need to have a track record of success nor do you need demonstrable executive skills to succeed as the most powerful man on earth. All you need to do is possess the ability to talk people into anything. In fact, proof of that is the fact that he won the Nobel Prize for all his accomplishments. This is nothing new. Hitler did the same thing.

The world is a better, safer place because of our president. Hail to the Chief.
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jd&ez - 2015-02-01 11:56 AM
sorrel horse ranch - 2015-01-30 11:33 AM Can't very well blame him.  Anybody with any sense probably won't run.  I can't imagine trying to clean up behind Obama. 
Obama cleaned up the mess left by W pretty well. Mitt is not running because Mitt can't win. It's not that difficult to figure out. 
how can you een compare this obama mess to past presidents.. our country has lost.. as i recall BUSH was AMERICAN and for us americans ......now americans have lost. are you really into illegals having voting rights and us supporting them? are you really into Muslims taking over control and rights ? are you really into taking God out of our country? are you really into beheading and allowing these terrorists into our country ? smh

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Bibliafarm - 2015-02-01 11:15 AM

jd&ez - 2015-02-01 11:56 AM
sorrel horse ranch - 2015-01-30 11:33 AM Can't very well blame him.  Anybody with any sense probably won't run.  I can't imagine trying to clean up behind Obama. 
Obama cleaned up the mess left by W pretty well. Mitt is not running because Mitt can't win. It's not that difficult to figure out. 
how can you een compare this obama mess to past presidents.. our country has lost.. as i recall BUSH was AMERICAN and for us americans ......now americans have lost. are you really into illegals having voting rights and us supporting them? are you really into Muslims taking over control and rights ? are you really into taking God out of our country? are you really into beheading and allowing these terrorists into our country ? smh

Shame on you, Biblia. It's still Bush's fault.
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jd&ez - 2015-02-01 10:56 AM

sorrel horse ranch - 2015-01-30 11:33 AM Can't very well blame him.  Anybody with any sense probably won't run.  I can't imagine trying to clean up behind Obama. 

Obama cleaned up the mess left by W pretty well. Mitt is not running because Mitt can't win. It's not that difficult to figure out. 

HAHAHAHAHAHA....Thanks for the laugh jd&ez is been a really bad week I needed that. Again thanks I haven't heard anything so funny in a long time.

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