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| Which one do you prefer and why? Which ones offspring would have the best resale? Who is producing the winners? |
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| Tle2424 - 2015-01-30 11:05 AM
Which one do you prefer and why? Which ones offspring would have the best resale? Who is producing the winners?
Thats a tough one! I'd say there is more Fab colts winning simply because last year(I believe) was the first year A Smooth Guy offspring were running. Can't go wrong either way imo |
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| Frenchmans Fabulous, hands down. He's a proven producer and resale reflects that. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | bowersk - 2015-01-30 11:07 AM Frenchmans Fabulous, hands down. He's a proven producer and resale reflects that.
What she said!!
Although I really love A Smooth Guy and want one of his babies, sale values will be better "right now" with Fab.
And I can attest to the Fabs, they are awesome. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Canchasr1 - 2015-01-30 11:58 AM bowersk - 2015-01-30 11:07 AM Frenchmans Fabulous, hands down. He's a proven producer and resale reflects that. What she said!!
Although I really love A Smooth Guy and want one of his babies, sale values will be better "right now" with Fab.
And I can attest to the Fabs, they are awesome.
And just how is Kat doing? |
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Location: So. Cali. | How is the mare bred? I have noticed majoirty of Fab babies doing the best are out of DTF daughters. |
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Location: Texas | Frenchmans Fabulous.....love Smooth Guy but have not seen his dz panel yet. |
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Location: Texas | Three*C*Champs - 2015-01-30 12:58 PM How is the mare bred? I have noticed majoirty of Fab babies doing the best are out of DTF daughters.
he crosses great on DTF mares & Easy Jet mares. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | I believe this is her mare. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cee+the+view |
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| Probably Fab for that mare but I don't think you can go wrong either way. ASG may be better on resale with what his stud fee is vs what his foals sale value is. I would look at the major sale results and decide |
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| Yes that is my mare? |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Kenny Nichols ( owner of Frenchmans Fabulous ) posted this yesterday on FB. This is for the MONTH of jan only. WOW is all I can say. Also, Fab has 2 qualified for the American.
FAB SHOUT OUT - Congrats to lots of winners in January!!! This is long & tried to catch everyone I knew. Could not get the tag to work on FABs page where each of these congrats are separated. I am doing this under my name so I can let everyone know how blessed January has been. Jordan Bassett & Buggin To Be Fab aka Cool Whip now have LTE over $47,000+ Bred & Raised by Nichols Quarter Horses. We have a lot of typing for this dynamic duos January accomplishments!!!... C-N California Futurity Champions & Round 2 Winner Classic Equine Futurity Slot Race Winner Classic Equine Futurity Reserve Champion Classic Equine Futurity Round 1 2nd & Round 2 1st Classic Equine Future Fortunes Futurity Average Champion and 2nd 1st Go won 2nd Go PacWest Futurity Round 2 4th Greg Olson Slot Race Futurity Reserve Champion Greg Olson Futurity Round 2 Winner Greg Olson Saturday Open 1D 6th Greg Olson Future Fortunes Open 1D 2nd Elayne Oswald Nevill |
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Location: Where I am happiest | That's ALOT of different horses sired by Fab winning ALOT of money with ALOT of different riders all across the country! He IS a sire!! |
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Location: Lala Land | Love me some Fab.....but if the allbreed link is your mare she has Tiny watch also, where Smooth Guy is Doc Bar/Jet Smooth on the bottom. I think myself personally would breed to Smooth Guy. Tami Semas has a good one by him going in futurities. I don't think it will be long until their sales value increases. |
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Location: Desert Land | I want to breed my DTF mare to Fab. She's booked for this year...but I'm thinking next year I will get on board. |
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| dhanover - 2015-01-30 2:02 PM
Frenchmans Fabulous.....love Smooth Guy but have not seen his dz panel yet.
Smooth is a carrier of Herda and GBED. I wouldn't even consider breeding to him because of that. |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-01-31 8:25 PM
dhanover - 2015-01-30 2:02 PM
Frenchmans Fabulous.....love Smooth Guy but have not seen his dz panel yet.
Smooth is a carrier of Herda and GBED. I wouldn't even consider breeding to him because of that.
Where did you see that? I keep reading people say it, but haven't seen it "officially" posted/advertised anywhere. Just curious!  |
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Location: Texas | I have just recently become a me ever of the Fab team lovers. I just got one about 2 mo the ago and he is smart and very eager to work and learn. His dam is a grandget of Six fols and that sucker can fly. I have heard he crosses best on DTF daughters but I'm thinking anything that has proven speed should work pretty good. |
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | The results of the 5 panel testing don't HAVE to be posted anywhere for people to know what they are. All you have to do is call AQHA and they will tell you the results. That is how people know about his results. They asked AQHA. |
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | Smooth and Fab are the two studs I was going back and forth on. They have a lot of similarities but I decided to go with Fab because his babies have a reputation of being great minded and all ages and levels of riders are having success with them. A Smooth Guy may also have those qualities, but since he doesn't have many babies of running age and the successful ones I've seen are with pro trainers I wasn't convinced they would be right for me. I'm an amateur and besides getting one started with a quality colt starter, I'll do most of the training myself, so great mind and trainablity were a huge factor in my decision. Plus,my mare is a AAA producer on the track and is of similar breeding to Fabs successful babies. Sent in my contract last week and I'm so excited!!!
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Location: OK | I have only had one Fab and no Smooth Guy's so my input doesn't mean much but my Fab was out of a dtr of DTF, I have had several DTF colts, the Fab colt had lots of talent but NO and I mean NO try or want to please. I traded him for an unbroke prospect just to get him gone.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Frenchmans Fabulous has 2 qualifiers into The American this year. One is out of a DTF daughter. This is the pedigree of the other one. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/ux+flit+n+fabulous |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | total performance - 2015-01-30 12:15 PM Canchasr1 - 2015-01-30 11:58 AM bowersk - 2015-01-30 11:07 AM Frenchmans Fabulous, hands down. He's a proven producer and resale reflects that. What she said!!
Although I really love A Smooth Guy and want one of his babies, sale values will be better "right now" with Fab.
And I can attest to the Fabs, they are awesome.
She is FAT!!!
LOL. I havent had time to ride and its cold!!
But we are going to get busy as soon as I finish all this testing!! |
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| FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-01-31 8:25 PM
dhanover - 2015-01-30 2:02 PM
Frenchmans Fabulous.....love Smooth Guy but have not seen his dz panel yet.
Smooth is a carrier of Herda and GBED. I wouldn't even consider breeding to him because of that.
I'm not sure what this means .. Does he pass something along to his offspring? Just trying to figure panel testing out. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Tatum2 - 2015-02-02 10:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-01-31 8:25 PM dhanover - 2015-01-30 2:02 PM Frenchmans Fabulous.....love Smooth Guy but have not seen his dz panel yet. Smooth is a carrier of Herda and GBED. I wouldn't even consider breeding to him because of that. I'm not sure what this means .. Does he pass something along to his offspring? Just trying to figure panel testing out.
The readers digest version; The panal testing is for genetic diseases. If the stallion has a marker for any of them, then yes, he can sire horses with those diseases. They may not inherit the disease, or they may, they may inherite the marker and not exibit symptoms or they may be efflicted and show symptoms. There is no chance if he was clean with no markers and the mare has no markers. The chances also drastically go up if the mare is positive for any of them also and if she has a marker, you do NOT want to breed to a sire who also has a marker for the same disease or you could most likely get a foal afflicted. |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-02-02 1:37 PM
Tatum2 - 2015-02-02 10:36 AM FlyingHigh1454 - 2015-01-31 8:25 PM dhanover - 2015-01-30 2:02 PM Frenchmans Fabulous.....love Smooth Guy but have not seen his dz panel yet. Smooth is a carrier of Herda and GBED. I wouldn't even consider breeding to him because of that. I'm not sure what this means .. Does he pass something along to his offspring? Just trying to figure panel testing out.
Thank you! This whole breeding situation is new to me! |
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| my A Smooth Guy has been the easiest baby ever to train... love love love her!
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A Smooth Guy or Frenchmans Fabulous