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   Location: Idaho | Just lost my health insurance with my job and looking at getting my plan for my family of 3. Right now all I can find that I can kinda afford is $480 per month for catastrophic. I also don't qualify for any of the tax credits. So that means I will be paying all doctors visits and the monthly plan price out of pocket and I'm really not sure how I'm going to do both. Starting to think paying the fine this year might be the better option. What are you guys doing for this year? |
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       Location: Florida | don't worry about a fine, they are not doing anything about that this year, worry about your family. you need insurance. If you don't qualify for the credit you make enough to afford some kind of insurance. You have to put your family first. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | I don't have an answer as I had catastrophic last year for $500.00 a month with a $6,000.00 deductible for me alone. Hugs as it really does suck. |
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    Location: Southeast Louisiana | I've been fighting with BC/BS for months now. Just pray THEY never screw you over because YOU will end up having to pay for it. Big company & they don't give a **** about the people.
To answer the OP's original question, you might look into a Health Savings Account (or HSA). I don't know if it's right for a family plan or not, but I have heard Dave Ramsey talking about it for people who cannot afford much in the way of insurance I think. Maybe someone on here who knows more about insurance can say if it's right for you or not.
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       Location: North Central Kansas | Nita - 2015-02-06 10:25 PM
I've been fighting with BC/BS for months now. Just pray THEY never screw you over because YOU will end up having to pay for it. Big company & they don't give a **** about the people.
To answer the OP's original question, you might look into a Health Savings Account (or HSA). I don't know if it's right for a family plan or not, but I have heard Dave Ramsey talking about it for people who cannot afford much in the way of insurance I think. Maybe someone on here who knows more about insurance can say if it's right for you or not.
Good luck. I'll keep you and your family in my prayers.
To qualify for a HSA you must have a high deductible health insurance plan. |
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    Location: Missouri | I have shopped and shopped... our cheapest option was Coventry. I had a non-ACA plan, but they dropped it and switched me to an ACA plan. So, I'm up to $750/month for my family of 5 ($10k deductible). Prior to Obama care, I had BCBS for around $600, but they did not offer a non-compliant plan and jumped my rate up to over $1k/month. I have cried a lot of tears over this. For those in our situation, it hits HARD. I'm so sorry! Don't give up! Also, there are group plans through some Christian organizations, Samaritan Ministies is one. I don't understand exactly how they work, but may be worth looking into. |
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      Location: Arkansas | The IRS fines for 2014 tax year are based on several different things, like your state, your income, number of dependents,etc. The returns I've done so far have ranged from $95 a person to $530 a person. |
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      Location: The edge of no where | We opted to try an HSA plan next year. $400 a month for 2 of us, my company is giving everyone $750 yearly in their account. You still pay the negotiated discount rates for everything until you hit your deductible, then it covers 100%. Anything you don't spend in your HSA account, you keep. I make pretax contribution s each pay period. Once I really looked into it, its a pretty cool deal. |
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     Location: In a happy place | BCBS got to me too. It is scary. And now that I don't have insurance I am pretty sure I will pay a fine this year. |
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       Location: Opelousas, LA | I have BC/BS of Louisiana, as of now Obamacare has not affected our rates yet, we pay about $750 per month with a $6000 deductible. It will most likely go way up in October because my current plan is not good enough for Obamacare standards. Gotta love having such good insurance that you can't afford to go to the doctor.
Hugs to you, this whole deal pretty much sucks. Obamacare- It only works if you don't..... |
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       Location: In The Snow, AZ | This year, we are eating the fine. Flame away. |
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        Location: Carpenter, WY | Is Cobra a option from your last job? |
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        Location: Broxton, Ga | Bottom line it is UCA..........unaffordable care act for many.........thanks Obama and Obama voter........ |
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     Location: Wisconsin | We are suppose to have some of the best thru my husbands work. We pay over 600 dollars a month. And have 3K each in deductibles. We Almost met it last yr. Only have about 2,400 dollars in Dr bills to pay. Someday i wish i were on Obamacare at least they go by your income. My friend makes 25k a yr and pays $115. What the difference if you have high deductible, we sure didnt benefit from a "great program" |
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         Location: So. California | When I changed jobs, the new company is much, much larger and we have GREAT insurance benefits (choice of several different plans) and the employee contribution is based on your plan choice. I pay $100 month, and have all the bells and whistles I need. Annual deductable is $3500. I'm really lucky!
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   Location: Idaho | Sorry guys...out all day running around... Anyways us getting an insurance plan will happen as soon as I can make sure I've found the right one so no worries there. What I don't understand is how we are expected to pay for plans that rival our home mortgage. I hate that we are penalized for making to much money or all the other asinine reasons they tell you. No wonder some people don't want to work or try harder to move up in live...it cost to much for something others are getting for free!! |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | Anniemae - 2015-02-07 10:17 PM When I changed jobs, the new company is much, much larger and we have GREAT insurance benefits (choice of several different plans) and the employee contribution is based on your plan choice. I pay $100 month, and have all the bells and whistles I need. Annual deductable is $3500. I'm really lucky!
And they want to tax you for having a Cadillac plan. |
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      Location: Arkansas | CowPony, before I got my current insurance I was paying almost $800 a month for just my son and myself. And my deductible was $10000. It was unbearable to pay that much. It was over a hundred dollars more a month than my house payment. I was 36 and Chandler was 8, and we had no health problems. Never could figure out why it was so much. . . . |
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   Location: Idaho | Chandler's Mom - 2015-02-08 12:29 AM
CowPony, before I got my current insurance I was paying almost $800 a month for just my son and myself. And my deductible was $10000. It was unbearable to pay that much. It was over a hundred dollars more a month than my house payment. I was 36 and Chandler was 8, and we had no health problems. Never could figure out why it was so much. . . .
Yes this is just what I'm talking about! I'm just so sorry for the others that are worse off then me trying to get by honestly. Makes me feel selfish for even bring it up. I just don't understand :( |
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      Location: Arkansas | That insurance probably never paid more than 1000 bucks on doctor bills, etc. And I had it for years. It makes me want to cry when I think about all the horse stuff I could have bought with that money!! |
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    Location: Great Places Great Faces | ~BINGO~ - 2015-02-07 7:49 AM This year, we are eating the fine. Flame away.
No flaming but lots of prayers... I've had serious health issues in my family to the price tag of over a million... I can't imagine if we didn't have insurance what our life would be like... |
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| It's rather strange, my accountant said you don't have to "prove" you have insurance, there's a box you either check yes or no, so how would they REALLY know? He said, he isn't getting paid anything from the government to make sure people DO have insurance so, he doesn't really care - he doesn't think it should be up to him to give proof and I agree, unless the government wants to pay him to monitor this. (I have insurance through my company, just found this interesting). |
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      Location: The edge of no where | The thing that infuriates me every morning driving to work is listening the commercials encouraging everyone to sign up and talking about how cheap it is....."most users qualified for assistance last year". ARGH!
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       Location: In The Snow, AZ | Spiked-Kat - 2015-02-08 10:29 AM ~BINGO~ - 2015-02-07 7:49 AM This year, we are eating the fine. Flame away. No flaming but lots of prayers... I've had serious health issues in my family to the price tag of over a million... I can't imagine if we didn't have insurance what our life would be like...
Hubby and I weighed our options and this just made more sense this time around. The quotes we got were outrageous. I guess I could sell off everything so we could afford it. Maybe this year we will have to. Our only real concern is our daughter. It's easy to say we are healthy and don't need it. But then the unthinkable will happen and we will probaby drown. We know we need insurance. It is what it is. |
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   Location: Idaho | Thank you for all your replies. I really wish I was the only one with this problem, but from the sounds of it there are lots out there sharing this with us. I really wish I had another answer :( |
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       Location: North Central Kansas | Griz - 2015-02-09 5:39 AM
It's rather strange, my accountant said you don't have to "prove" you have insurance, there's a box you either check yes or no, so how would they REALLY know? He said, he isn't getting paid anything from the government to make sure people DO have insurance so, he doesn't really care - he doesn't think it should be up to him to give proof and I agree, unless the government wants to pay him to monitor this. (I have insurance through my company, just found this interesting).
Interesting....I work for a local CPA doing taxes and we just ask the clients I'd they had health insurance. We do not require proof. However, we get our personal taxes done by another cpa and he requires proof of insurance such as a photocopy of my health insurance card. |
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| ks_cowgirl - 2015-02-09 11:14 AM Griz - 2015-02-09 5:39 AM It's rather strange, my accountant said you don't have to "prove" you have insurance, there's a box you either check yes or no, so how would they REALLY know? He said, he isn't getting paid anything from the government to make sure people DO have insurance so, he doesn't really care - he doesn't think it should be up to him to give proof and I agree, unless the government wants to pay him to monitor this. (I have insurance through my company, just found this interesting). Interesting....I work for a local CPA doing taxes and we just ask the clients I'd they had health insurance. We do not require proof. However, we get our personal taxes done by another cpa and he requires proof of insurance such as a photocopy of my health insurance card.
I guess it probably all depends on the accountant. I don't think I would take it upon myself to monitor it all if I was in their shoes though - not without some incentive to do so. |
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      Location: Bigfoot Country | Ha! My husband and I pay $969/month with a $6500 each person deductible!! And no prescription benefits at all! Not sure if it's because we live in CA? He is medically retired, and on a fixed income. It's crazy! Takes almost half of his check! This is the 'cheapest' option they offer too! One of the options was $5,000/month!! Seriously???? |
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     Location: Oklahoma | Wow...I guess I won't complain anymore about my insurance. I pay $109 a month for United Healthcare with a $1600 deductible (single person). With United, the company I work for gives you $650 to use as your part of the deductable, so really ist more like $950. If you don't use it, it'll roll over and be added with next years. United is the best option our company offers. I've had BCBS before, and wasn't impressed. The cheapest you can get here is the BCBS (of TN) ACO PPO. It costs $53 a month with a $2000 deductible. I don't know how they expect people to afford insurance! Its crazy what it costs if you are self or unemployed. |
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    Location: That part of Texas | As a self-employed business owner, I was totally screwed on looking for cheaper insurance for just me. What saved my hide somewhat was being able to buy through a pool organized by the State Bar for us solo-practioner attorneys. I pay about $333 per month and think my deductible is $7500 with BCBS of Texas. You might want to check through AQHA or other organizations (like AAA) to see if you qualify for cheaper insurance as part of a bigger pool of people. |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | cowpony45 - 2015-02-09 11:03 AM Thank you for all your replies. I really wish I was the only one with this problem, but from the sounds of it there are lots out there sharing this with us. I really wish I had another answer :(
If you work for a living and are responsible you are screwed. It's Obama's new America where he wants to punish hard working Americans and redistribute the wealth. He doesn't have a clue that you can throw all kinds of money to people but it's like going and fishing and give people the fish instead of teaching them how to fish. |
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     Location: SE KS | I was hoping our Republic laden Congress was going to get us out of this Affordable Care Act!!!! |
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     Location: Central Texas | I'm really stressing over this, too. I don't qualify for assistance and I have not figured out how to afford the $650 a month along with the $6,000 deductible. My insurance was $200 a month with a $3,500 deductible! Now no insurance. |
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        Location: n.c. | I will have to pay the fine this year since I didn't have any by Feb. 15. As of March 1, I have signed up with the Christian Healthcare Ministries. It's set up as a coop. I pay 100.00 per quarter and 50.00 per month. Then if I go to the Dr or hospital, the bills are sent to them; they pay accordingly and I keep paying my 50.00 per month. It was the only thing I could find that I could afford. The main win/win. I had to quit smoking before I could join. Go me! |
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   Location: Idaho | So far Costco has the cheapest per month for us. It's catastrophic coverage with a 13000 deductible. Its $465 per month for the 3 of us so we would have something I guess. Its so hard spending that money knowing it won't do anything for us. I really do understand the anything can happen fact, but there has to be a better way or some other way to make this affordable. I'm sorry but we make ok money, live within our means and try to put money aside every month and this is what we get....well you make this much money a year before taxes so we think you can afford it so now you have to! Awesome.... |
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    Location: Great Places Great Faces | Asking because I don't know, no ill intent.. Are you all self employed , and that's why you don't have issurance? We kind of have a running joke here that for every good ranches there's a wife that works in town... True in my family in large part to having health insurance .. Not to hijack thread.. Just curious. |
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       Location: In the wrong place at the wrong time | No Insurance here and **** sure not paying a fine for something I can't afford.
It scares me to death to be without insurance BUT it was either drop the insurance or starve.
My husband's business went under a little over a year ago and he can't find a job so we have only mine and I make too much for assistance but not enough to afford anything but food, shelter and utilities.
I asked my LIBERAL senator to help avoid the penalty and he put me in touch with Obamacare penalty hardship exemption and I'm waiting for the exemption code to file with my taxes. |
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   Location: Idaho | Spiked-Kat - 2015-02-09 6:42 PM
Asking because I don't know, no ill intent.. Are you all self employed , and that's why you don't have issurance? We kind of have a running joke here that for every good ranches there's a wife that works in town... True in my family in large part to having health insurance .. Not to hijack thread.. Just curious.
My husband is self-employed and I manage a dairy. By law if you employe over 50 people you have to offer health insurance and we just let some people go to be below that. We now employe 48 people :/ |
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   Location: Idaho | And don't even get me rolling on the self-employed deal...WHAT A JOKE! The government wants you to make just enough to pay them and if you have your own busines then you can afford to pay taxes like the big dogs. Don't get me wrong I want to what's right and pay my far share, but it is going to try and drowned me. |
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    Location: Missouri | Spiked-Kat - 2015-02-09 6:42 PM Asking because I don't know, no ill intent.. Are you all self employed , and that's why you don't have issurance? We kind of have a running joke here that for every good ranches there's a wife that works in town... True in my family in large part to having health insurance .. Not to hijack thread.. Just curious.
Yes, self-employed. We do have insurance, but we self-pay. Another down side to those in this situation is that when there is a major sickness, it is harder to get care. When I tried to get my dad, who also self-pays for his insurance, into a cancer treatment hospital, one of the first questions they asked was "how does he plan to pay his insurance premium while in treatment?" Really, unless you're independently wealthy, you need disability insurance as well as an income protection plan. But, you just about have to be wealthy to afford all the insurance. 
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| This thread just makes me madder, the more I read it. IF I was self-employed, there would be NO way I would sign up for Obama-Care - it is too ****ed expensive! When I was self-employed, years ago, I got insurance through Farm Bureau, it was Blue Cross/Blue Shield and pretty affordable - of course, I was a LOT younger too. Some of you might look into it and see if they still have it. It just blows my mind that the government is really taking OVER people's lives in this manner - makes me SICK. |
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         Location: MT | I resigned from my job the end of November. I chose to do the Temp. Continuation of Coverage of my Federal Blue Cross Blue Shield policy because it's a really good policy and I can keep it for up to 18 more months. Ready for the scary part? It's $1460 a month (for 2 people). The deductible is $350 per person though, which we would pay a whole lot for on any plan that I could find anyhow.
Really am curious what the best deals are since we will be changing next year this time.
ETA - my husband works for a ranch that does not offer health insurance and I am now self employed.
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         Location: MT | And yes, they are doing the penalties for not having health insurance. One of the ranchhands here wound up paying a $500 penalty when he filed his 2014 taxes. |
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         Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | I can't offer any advice to the OP. But I read the entire thread because since this whole obamacare thing started it has intrigued me.
I am baffled at how you guys afford 600 or more a month? I know it's important to have insurance especially if you have children. Maybe the average family makes more then my husband and I. But it's alarming how much it is costing everybody.
I will have to admit we are truly fortunate that hubby is active duty. At the moment I voluntarily pay a very small copay for prescriptions because I opt to use an off base pharmacy. Other then that we pay nearly nothing for our healthcare. Everything is covered. I think hubby pays 30 dollars a month for me to be covered. I always tell people while his salary sucks big time (he only makes 36k a year after 15 years of service and working around the clock), that the insurance benefits we receive make it all worth it. Not everybody is that lucky :(:( Now when he retires we will pay more, but still not nearly as much as most (hopefully, though that could change as well) |
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| missroselee - 2015-02-10 9:01 PM
I can't offer any advice to the OP. But I read the entire thread because since this whole obamacare thing started it has intrigued me.
I am baffled at how you guys afford 600 or more a month? I know it's important to have insurance especially if you have children. Maybe the average family makes more then my husband and I. But it's alarming how much it is costing everybody.
I will have to admit we are truly fortunate that hubby is active duty. At the moment I voluntarily pay a very small copay for prescriptions because I opt to use an off base pharmacy. Other then that we pay nearly nothing for our healthcare. Everything is covered. I think hubby pays 30 dollars a month for me to be covered. I always tell people while his salary sucks big time (he only makes 36k a year after 15 years of service and working around the clock), that the insurance benefits we receive make it all worth it. Not everybody is that lucky :(:( Now when he retires we will pay more, but still not nearly as much as most (hopefully, though that could change as well)
I'm am incredibly fortunate to be covered by my employer and pay $50/mo with a $1000 deductible and another $1800 paid at 80/20 (20% me).
I feel so much more incredibly fortunate when I read stuff like this about how screwed up Obamacare is. I know that non-employer covered healthcare has never been as affordable as mine for most, but Jesus some of these numbers are more than my mortgage - and I got a nice house!
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      Location: Arkansas | My tax program asks if taxpayer has insurance, and if it's thru "regular" insurance or the marketplace. Depending on the answer I may have to fill out other worksheets, but no documentation is required with the return. After this year there will either be major audits to verify/prove the insurance, or there will be a major overhaul of this wonderful government program. Please hear the sarcasm. More work for me but I feel it's unfair to charge my customers more this year; it's not their fault. . . |
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      Location: Arkansas | NTO you said it all in a nutshell |
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   Location: Idaho | Honesty I'm having a hard time pulling the trigger on a plan. I can't decide how much money I want to throw away each month. Does any one know if you can still get insurance outside of the market place after the 15th? |
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      Location: Arkansas | They say open enrollment ends the 15th but not real sure what that means |
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| ruggedchica - 2015-02-10 8:51 PM
And yes, they are doing the penalties for not having health insurance. One of the ranchhands here wound up paying a $500 penalty when he filed his 2014 taxes.
If I was in that spot, (and thank God, I'm not). I'd pay the fee - WAY, WAY cheaper than the insurance! |
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| We are just switching to priority health insurance 3 of us for $355.00 monthly. $600.00 deductible and a $3400.00 per person total payout. We are saving around $225.00 and better coverage with this insurance.. We weren't going to switch but I found out that I had a $12,500.00 total payout and we are going to be using it this year... This was through blue cross. If u can find a good honest insurance person and go through the market place to find what coverage would fit your needs. Open enrollment begins again in November |
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      Location: The best kept secret in TX | My Mother is a teacher at a private school and was quoted 900/month for her and my two youngest sibling's... That's the cheapest she has found... And it only covers emergencies and "big" things like broken bones and ER visits. I have health Insurance through United Health with my job. It's 100/Month but my deductible is 2500.... So I opt to just pay the 75 Clinic fee if I ever have to go get antibiotics or anything like that instead of pay the deductible for it to then be 65 a visit.... My Dad has insurance through his company that includes dental and to add my Mom and sibling's it would be an extra 1200/month....
OR she can just pay a ONE TIME fee of 1,000 dollars when she files her taxes... She has been saving money back each check in order to pay the fee. Makes no sense to me... Sure, I have health insurance... No I can't even afford to use it. So what's the point in me having insurance?? And what's the point in fining people who couldn't afford health insurance in the first place and who still can't? Fining people isn't going to make them want health insurance. They will pay the fee and continue to not be able to afford insurance. It's a big mess... |
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                    Location: In the Hills of Texas | I found when I was insurance shopping for me, as my husband was already on Medicare. The premiums for different companies were all within a difference of $10.00 when comparing apples to apples. For a person looking for just isurance for themselves, the premiums seemed to be based off of your age.
I always worried about going on Medicare when I was younger. I can say after getting screwed over with Obamacare and paying ridiculous premiums. I was relieved to go onto Medicare. I never thought I would see that day. |
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| Nevertooold - 2015-02-11 11:19 AM
I found when I was insurance shopping for me, as my husband was already on Medicare. The premiums for different companies were all within a difference of $10.00 when comparing apples to apples. For a person looking for just isurance for themselves, the premiums seemed to be based off of your age.
I always worried about going on Medicare when I was younger. I can say after getting screwed over with Obamacare and paying ridiculous premiums. I was relieved to go onto Medicare. I never thought I would see that day.
The gal I buy hay from said the same thing! She said she never thought she would be so thrilled to turn 65! |
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Red Raider - 2015-02-09 1:43 PM
As a self-employed business owner, I was totally screwed on looking for cheaper insurance for just me. What saved my hide somewhat was being able to buy through a pool organized by the State Bar for us solo-practioner attorneys. I pay about $333 per month and think my deductible is $7500 with BCBS of Texas. You might want to check through AQHA or other organizations (like AAA) to see if you qualify for cheaper insurance as part of a bigger pool of people.
I didn't read every post here, but I don't have to. I think what Red Raider has is a good example of what most people should have. If the vast majority of Americans had this kind of insurance, without government meddling, we would see a drastic decline in healthcare costs. Basically, the first $7500 of what she pays for healthcare each year comes out of her pocket. Insurance doesn't have anything to do with it. What she has is basically catastrophic health insurance. When people have to pay for anything out of pocket, they shop around.....unless they are stupid. They are quick to learn where you get the best quality for the lowest price. Also, they tend to think twice before running to the ER for a stubbed toe, or the doctors office for a cold. That's what happens now. The system is overwhelmed by people who don't stop to think, so long as they are "covered". There are days when I might see say 25 people in the clinic, and only about 10 of them really need to be there. Another thing I notice is people actually complaining that they can't afford say $500-600 a month for health insurance. A lot of those same people don't think twice about paying $800 a month for a new pickup every 5 years. We have some pretty screwed up priorities in America, in my opinion.
There is only one possible way that we can preserve good health care that we can afford. It's so logical it isn't even funny. It's simple, fair, and is the only solution that has the potential of preserving excellence. All the rest is just bullsh!t. |
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    Location: Fort Worth / Springtown | runningk - 2015-02-09 5:19 PM I will have to pay the fine this year since I didn't have any by Feb. 15.
As of March 1, I have signed up with the Christian Healthcare Ministries. It's set up as a coop.
I pay 100.00 per quarter and 50.00 per month. Then if I go to the Dr or hospital, the bills are sent
to them; they pay accordingly and I keep paying my 50.00 per month.
It was the only thing I could find that I could afford. The main win/win. I had to quit smoking before
I could join. Go me!
I had to research this further - had never heard of it. I saw that it was on the Mike Huckabee show and watched that clip and read a few parts of their website.
Extremely interesting the way this works - I am going to keep researching - thank you for mentioning it!!!
Right now pay Assurant $366 for castrophe for my husand and I - 38/40 years - we rarely ever do doctor's visits - on no meds at all --- he's 6' 2" 240 and has to pay $60+ extra because they say he's overweight - grrrrrr.
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     Location: Canada | Could someone give me a quick rundown of how your healthcare system works? I often read posts on it and don't fully understand the situation but would like to. (I'm Canadian)
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          Location: Bastrop, Texas | Whit37 - 2015-02-11 1:13 PM
Could someone give me a quick rundown of how your healthcare system works? I often read posts on it and don't fully understand the situation but would like to. (I'm Canadian)
I'm not very confident there is any way of giving you a "quick rundown" on US healthcare, honestly. If you wait a few more years, you won't need one because it will be just like Canada's. |
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    Location: Missouri | Bear - 2015-02-11 12:04 PM Red Raider - 2015-02-09 1:43 PM As a self-employed business owner, I was totally screwed on looking for cheaper insurance for just me. What saved my hide somewhat was being able to buy through a pool organized by the State Bar for us solo-practioner attorneys. I pay about $333 per month and think my deductible is $7500 with BCBS of Texas. You might want to check through AQHA or other organizations (like AAA) to see if you qualify for cheaper insurance as part of a bigger pool of people. I didn't read every post here, but I don't have to. I think what Red Raider has is a good example of what most people should have. If the vast majority of Americans had this kind of insurance, without government meddling, we would see a drastic decline in healthcare costs. Basically, the first $7500 of what she pays for healthcare each year comes out of her pocket. Insurance doesn't have anything to do with it. What she has is basically catastrophic health insurance. When people have to pay for anything out of pocket, they shop around.....unless they are stupid. They are quick to learn where you get the best quality for the lowest price. Also, they tend to think twice before running to the ER for a stubbed toe, or the doctors office for a cold. That's what happens now. The system is overwhelmed by people who don't stop to think, so long as they are "covered". There are days when I might see say 25 people in the clinic, and only about 10 of them really need to be there. Another thing I notice is people actually complaining that they can't afford say $500-600 a month for health insurance. A lot of those same people don't think twice about paying $800 a month for a new pickup every 5 years. We have some pretty screwed up priorities in America, in my opinion. There is only one possible way that we can preserve good health care that we can afford. It's so logical it isn't even funny. It's simple, fair, and is the only solution that has the potential of preserving excellence. All the rest is just bullsh!t.
My husband owns a private practice. We have insurance through his professional organization, but they are not allowed to offer discounts. Basically, it's just a go-between for us and the insurance companies. They help me shop and explain plans, premiums, etc. They can call if I have problems with coverage, and remind me if I'm past due, etc. Our health insurance is the most expensive payment I make each month. My newest car has 250,000 miles and is 11 years old. I think I have a right to complain. I am paying for people who don't. Also, deductible is not the same as out-of-pocket, as I'm sure most know. We have met our $10,000 deductible a few times through the years, and still keep paying to reach our out-of-pocket. $10,000, plus $800/month. How is that NOT devastating? The real kicker... the times I've met my deductible, I would have paid less WITHOUT insurance.
PS Just a guess, but I'm pretty sure the ones who are taking advantage of your services, complaining about the costs, who don't "stop to think" are NOT the same hard-working, self-employed people on this thread. |
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| I don't have insurance because I can't afford it. Its RIDICULOUS. The cheapest insurance I could find had a detectable of $6500 and was still $455 a month. That plan didn't include nothing besides catastrophic, so I still have to pay everything else out of pocket! Good luck on your search. THANKS OBAMA, best president ever..NOT 
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        Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | My company was going to due away with our insurance a month ago, so I was shopping around like crazy to see what I could find. I am almost 30, never been smoker or had any major issues and there was no way I would have been able to afford to get my own insurance. Thank goodness my company figured out a way they could afford to insure us.
I now pay roughly $104 a month (depending on the month could be more as we get paid every week.) and have a $2500 deductible. I am very thankful for this. The only time I had to go to the DR in the last couple of years is when I did not have insurance and that only was $2500. Before I worked at a Dr's office and we had free health care within the clinic just had to pay for RX's.
I really hope something changes soon as I may be without a job soon (thanks oil prices) and may have to start shopping around again unless I get married and I get be put on my SO's Insurance. |
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| My husband and I are lucky. I am insured through the school district I work for, and pay 60 a month. My deductible is 2500 and I have a health savings account that the district puts 500 on a year that rolls over.
I get free eye and dental too.
My husband pays $30 a month and has a HSA and he gets 800 a year. I am not sure what his deductible is as he handles his insurance and I handle mine.
There was a point that he lost his job so I put him on mine and it jumped up to $600 but I also had the best insurance plan Humana had to offer it was a PPO with a very very low deductible.
I could have opted out of an upgrade and gotten free insurance that the school would pay for.
Insurance and retirement are two additional benefits of being a teacher. |
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   Location: Idaho | Well 2 days left guys and still not sure what to do! :( |
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      Location: Arkansas | Your "PS" says it perfectly |
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 My Heart Be Happy
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      Location: Arkansas | That's why I said earlier on the thread I think there will be audits to confirm insurance or an overhaul of the program. |
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   Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | magic gunsmoke - 2015-02-13 11:17 AM My husband and I are lucky. I am insured through the school district I work for, and pay 60 a month. My deductible is 2500 and I have a health savings account that the district puts 500 on a year that rolls over. I get free eye and dental too. My husband pays $30 a month and has a HSA and he gets 800 a year. I am not sure what his deductible is as he handles his insurance and I handle mine. There was a point that he lost his job so I put him on mine and it jumped up to $600 but I also had the best insurance plan Humana had to offer it was a PPO with a very very low deductible. I could have opted out of an upgrade and gotten free insurance that the school would pay for. Insurance and retirement are two additional benefits of being a teacher. ...don't know what state you live in but teacher retirement in TX is a joke...and the insurance wasn't that great, either.
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   Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | EqualRanch - 2015-02-06 8:53 PM I have Blue Cross Blue Shield, of Texas. I know they have multiple options and IF I'm not mistaken, the cheapest is around $350-$400. Just have to check and see.
BCBS of Texas jumped from $750 for myself and husband to $1300/month in less than a year. We just dropped them and now are going catastrophic only for about $375. Horrible, horrible thing, healthcare. I think Obama should be.....well, I guess I can't say that, probably, without going to jail. :( |
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| I hate to tell ya what I hve for insurance. You guys might reach thru the computer and strangle me.. :). I pay $140 a month, no deductible, $35 copay for specialists and $25 for regular dr visits. I hve BC/BS. I'm very healthy and rarely go to the doctor.. I'm seriously thnking of quitting my job, that I hate, to train horses full time so I'll be in the same boat as the rest of you pretty soon... |
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