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Location: wherever my daughter's running | I saw this feed mentioned on another thread and would like to know more about it. We have a senior horse who is missing some of his front teeth. We are feeding him a senior feed with soaked beet pulp and alfalfa pellets added and he has access to good hay 24/7. He has not held his weight as well this winter on this diet and I am curious if switching to Chaffhaye might help. Thanks in advance for any information. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | If they will eat it, it will most definitely help. It's easier for them to digest and I had really good results with it on my hard keeper. The only problem I had is that the store wasn't getting it in fresh and it goes bad quickly. But if you can get fresh and feed it before it goes bad, imo it's the best thing to have them on because of all the natural nutrients.
With longer bodies horses I've never had luck with keeping a lot of weight on with beet pulp. They just have never gained when they've been on it. I've had much better results with Alfalfa paired with rice bran and flax. Something about the alfalfa cubes really helps put the weight on. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Here's a link
http://www.chaffhaye.com/ |
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Location: Down South | Chaffhaye is premium alfalfa packaged in 50 lb bags. It goes through a natural fermentation process after it is packaged bcs of the slight molasses added to it. When you open the bag the alfalfa is moist and you can see the white fermentation throughout the bag. I have a 30+ year old mare that I loaned to a friend several years ago for her small grandchild to ride/walk around. When I got her back she was very very thin. I knew that they fed her just like their other horses. So it took me a few days once I got her back home to figure out what was going on. The problem..... she could not eat hay. She can eat her SeniorGlo Nuggets, but not hay. I started her on Chaffhaye; spent a small fortune that first winter (she came home late fall) because I gave her all she would eat. What a difference it made in her physical appearance. I don't feed it during the summer now because she can eat grass. She's back on the Chaffhaye now during the winter. She looks good for 30+ years old, considering what I brought her back from. I've got a before and after picture, but will have to find it. I believe in Chaffhaye for my senior horse. |
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Location: Driving, Grooming, or Saddling for a Kid! | It doesnt go bad. What people think is going bad is actually the white caused by fermentation mentioned above.
Edited by DunIt 2015-02-10 3:42 PM
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Location: Piedmont, OK | I love it! I buy 2 pallets at a time but then again I have all 7 horses on it. In the beginning they don't seem to want to eat it but once they start they will love it. I think its the smell that bothers them in the beginning. But I ran out a few months ago and picked up regular alfalfa at the feed store till I got more and they would not eat the bale of alfalfa I bought after being on chaffhaye. |
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Location: Arkansas | DunIt - 2015-02-10 3:33 PM It doesnt go bad. What people think is going bad is actually the white caused by fermentation mentioned above.
Chaffhaye will never go bad but will darn sure DRY out if you leave the bag open. Once open, we store it in plastic continer's. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Can you keep feeding alfalfa with it, or is that not beneficial? I guess I'm looking for it replace pasture when grass is sparse. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | soonergirl98 - 2015-02-10 3:37 PM
I love it! I buy 2 pallets at a time but then again I have all 7 horses on it. In the beginning they don't seem to want to eat it but once they start they will love it. I think its the smell that bothers them in the beginning. But I ran out a few months ago and picked up regular alfalfa at the feed store till I got more and they would not eat the bale of alfalfa I bought after being on chaffhaye.
How often are you buying it at 2 pallets at a time? What else do you feed besides the hay? :) |
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Location: OH. IO | What is price per bag and how much does each bag weigh? |
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| jake16 - 2015-02-10 6:25 PM
What is price per bag and how much does each bag weigh?
I just called a local feed store, 13.99/50lb bag. I am thinking about switching from beet pulp to chaffhaye, seems like a cleaner product. I don't feed grain but need something to put renew gold and supplements in and for extra calories during the winter. I already feed alfalfa as part of my program so need to research how chaffhaye would work with what I already feed. |
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Location: OH. IO | rodeomom3 - 2015-02-10 7:44 PM jake16 - 2015-02-10 6:25 PMWhat is price per bag and how much does each bag weigh? I just called a local feed store, 13.99/50lb bag. I am thinking about switching from beet pulp to chaffhaye, seems like a cleaner product. I don't feed grain but need something to put renew gold and supplements in and for extra calories during the winter. I already feed alfalfa as part of my program so need to research how chaffhaye would work with what I already feed.
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Location: OH. IO | I wrote that wrong im sorry. 15 lbs per 1000 lbs |
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| The chart I saw said 15 pounds/day for 1000 pound horse. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | You can feed it free choice. They'll eat like they haven't been fed in a week and then start to taper off. |
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Location: Oklahoma | rachellyn80 - 2015-02-10 7:47 PM
You can feed it free choice. They'll eat like they haven't been fed in a week and then start to taper off.
Do you just toss it out like a flake of hay or do you feed it in a pan? |
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Thank you everyone for the great information. This guy is not a picky eater. I checked the website before I posted my question and I can get it. It's a little out of the way but this old guy is worth it. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | It's like a compressed able of moist alfalfa....When I feed it I either put it in their feed bin with their regular feed, or I dump the whole able into a big tub.
Theres no flake to it. It's compressed in a heavy plastic wrap. You cut it open and pull it out by hand... It's almost mossy feeling. |
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Location: the high desert | So how long does a bag last since you have to feed at least 15lbs a day? |
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Location: Beggs, OK | You can feed as little or as much as you want a day, but at 15# a day it would last 3ish days. |
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Location: Oklahoma | rachellyn80 - 2015-02-10 9:13 PM It's like a compressed able of moist alfalfa....When I feed it I either put it in their feed bin with their regular feed, or I dump the whole able into a big tub.
Theres no flake to it. It's compressed in a heavy plastic wrap. You cut it open and pull it out by hand... It's almost mossy feeling.
Thanks! I might try to grab a few bags tomorrow when I'm near a dealer! |
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| Ive fed it since 2013. LOVE chaffhay. I buy it by the pallet now. LOL I feed 3-4 bags a week to 6 horses. Its helped them out. They look great, feel great and I have cut the grain intake down. I even took my barrel horse off grains due to ulcers and put her on chaffhay with amplify added to it. Give it a try. They may not like it at first but will start eating it. I start slow and add more as they eat it. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | DunIt - 2015-02-10 3:33 PM It doesnt go bad. What people think is going bad is actually the white caused by fermentation mentioned above.
Any of the bags that had the white stuff in it my horse wouldn't eat. The bags that were fresh and didn't have any of the white stuff , he would eat. I fed about 3 pounds per day. |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | Longneck - 2015-02-11 9:17 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-02-10 9:13 PM It's like a compressed able of moist alfalfa....When I feed it I either put it in their feed bin with their regular feed, or I dump the whole able into a big tub.
Theres no flake to it. It's compressed in a heavy plastic wrap. You cut it open and pull it out by hand... It's almost mossy feeling. Thanks! I might try to grab a few bags tomorrow when I'm near a dealer!
If you're in Shawnee, S&S feed carries it.... |
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Location: Oklahoma | Cindy Hamilton - 2015-02-11 11:40 AM Longneck - 2015-02-11 9:17 AM rachellyn80 - 2015-02-10 9:13 PM It's like a compressed able of moist alfalfa....When I feed it I either put it in their feed bin with their regular feed, or I dump the whole able into a big tub.
Theres no flake to it. It's compressed in a heavy plastic wrap. You cut it open and pull it out by hand... It's almost mossy feeling. Thanks! I might try to grab a few bags tomorrow when I'm near a dealer!
Thanks! I'll add that to husbands "to do" list! It looks like there is a dealer in Ft Smith that I'll hit up tomorrow. |
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I started feeding it 1 1/2 yrs ago & with seniors (mares/stallions) 20-30yo have been amazed! I feed a factory feed, but supplement Chaffhaye as needed. I've fed alfalfa for nearly 20yrs, trucked it in so I know its value & handling issues. The feed value of Chaffhaye is much higher than any hay I've ever gotten w/ no waste (my JRT clean up any I've dropped). The 15lbs per 1000lb horse is on dry lot w/ no other feed. So to put it terms we can understand 1/2 a small feed bucket = flake (avg) of alfalfa hay. It does smell dif to horses & some do take a day or two to try it. But one they do 99.9% will love it!
It does store well with care to keep it off concrete, out of sunlight & avoid puncturing bag. Once open it depending on weather will last 10 days to 2wks. I've had folks freeze it for special "treats" during our triple digit heat. Its all natural w/ no preservatives so once exposed to air must be used or dried (yes you can do that) or frozen. If you should tear a bag just tape the rip.
Now on to the yeast colonies. LOL they look like mold. If your Chaffhaye has gone bad it will STINK! What I have found is its usually just a small section & it make great fertalizer for your garden. But these colonies are super pobitics.
Since using it I;ve shaved $300+ off my feed bill & my horses have never looked better. Plus they are not losing weight over winter. It was really hard for me to wrap my head around the "idea" but after alot & I alot of research & talking to Kimber @ Chaffhaye am glad I tried it. Please anyone with questions ask! Tho by no means an expert, just a true fan & user. |
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| rachellyn80 - 2015-02-10 9:13 PM
It's like a compressed able of moist alfalfa....When I feed it I either put it in their feed bin with their regular feed, or I dump the whole able into a big tub.
Theres no flake to it. It's compressed in a heavy plastic wrap. You cut it open and pull it out by hand... It's almost mossy feeling.
How does this compare to the new stuff you are now selling? Are you still feeding this also? |
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Location: Louisiana | Longneck - 2015-02-10 5:05 PM
Can you keep feeding alfalfa with it, or is that not beneficial? I guess I'm looking for it replace pasture when grass is sparse.
Mine went bad...
I had it stored in a plastic tub in the barn, which is really cool bc it's an old cinderblock dairy barn. After a week and a half, as I got to the bottom of the tub, I noticed a slight change in smell. Some of the "yeast" looked kinda fuzzy and I smelled it and there was no mistaking that it was mold.
My horses loved it and I like it for the price. 1 bag lasted 2 weeks just topping off my 2 guys feed buckets with it.
But I'm unsure if the bag I received was old, or if it just goes bad that quickly. |
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| It will mold IF left out. Ive never had it happen with what I feed my horses but I feed a bagvery 3 days. However, we opened one to feed our chickens and rabbits and in 2 weeks it had molded.
IF it is not sealed back it molds
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The white yeasty stuff is natural. If it smells like mold, DONT USE IT. If the bag has a hole, no matter how small, feed it fast before it molds. Cuz it will. |
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Location: Louisiana | Jazz's Girl - 2015-06-29 10:20 AM
It will mold IF left out. Ive never had it happen with what I feed my horses but I feed a bagvery 3 days. However, we opened one to feed our chickens and rabbits and in 2 weeks it had molded.
IF it is not sealed back it molds
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The white yeasty stuff is natural. If it smells like mold, DONT USE IT. If the bag has a hole, no matter how small, feed it fast before it molds. Cuz it will.
I really did like it, I guess I could just feed them more lol. It was about 10-11 days when I noticed the smell. The hay at the bottom of the tub was very moist also, but I figured it would be fine beig in our barn. It doesn't get hot in there, when it's 100 outside, it's about 80-85 I'd guess. The place I bought it from may not sell a ton so idk how fresh it was. I can drive a little further and get it really fresh bc the lady sells a ton of it. Hmmm...or I may just go back to soaking cubes. I like having that extra protein and good quality forage. Mine are now turned out 24/7 on grass, but it's not high quality grass. |
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Please educate me on Chaffhaye