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The first two I personally know of. Maybe this will make it easier for those that don't want to wade through all the pages
1) Purina* National
2) Blue Bonnet- Regional
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Location: Here | Murphy - 2015-02-13 8:00 AM Tripe Crown NE mill.
From what I have learned not all triple crown comes from clean mills Know where your TC comes from |
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Location: Kentucky | SG. - 2015-02-13 9:34 AM Murphy - 2015-02-13 8:00 AM Tripe Crown NE mill. From what I have learned not all triple crown comes from clean mills Know where your TC comes from
I sent TC a message and they asked my location. She said the NE mill (I am not sure exactly what city/state that is) is ionophore free. That is the mill my feed comes from. |
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Location: Texas! | SG. - 2015-02-12 8:34 PM Please share feeds are made in Ionophore free mills. The other long thread has left many confused. If you list a feed besure that it is a mill made from an Ionophore Free Facility. Not a mill that follows yada yada.. see long thread for all of that. Also designate National or Regional.
The first two I personally know of. Maybe this will make it easier for those that don't want to wade through all the pages
1 ) Purina* National
2 ) Blue Bonnet- Regional
Isn't all Bluebonnet feed made in ioniphore free facilities? |
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Location: Beggs, OK | WYOracer - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM SG. - 2015-02-12 8:34 PM Please share feeds are made in Ionophore free mills. The other long thread has left many confused. If you list a feed besure that it is a mill made from an Ionophore Free Facility. Not a mill that follows yada yada.. see long thread for all of that. Also designate National or Regional.
The first two I personally know of. Maybe this will make it easier for those that don't want to wade through all the pages
1 ) Purina* National
2 ) Blue Bonnet- Regional
Yes, it is. What she means by Regional is that it's only made in the mill at Ardmore and won't be available to everyone. Oklahoma, Arkansas, and Texas are the only states that are carrying it (I think) |
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Location: Here | rachellyn80 - 2015-02-13 1:12 PM WYOracer - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM SG. - 2015-02-12 8:34 PM Please share feeds are made in Ionophore free mills. The other long thread has left many confused. If you list a feed besure that it is a mill made from an Ionophore Free Facility. Not a mill that follows yada yada.. see long thread for all of that. Also designate National or Regional.
The first two I personally know of. Maybe this will make it easier for those that don't want to wade through all the pages
1 ) Purina* National
2 ) Blue Bonnet- Regional
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Location: Nebraska | rachellyn80 - 2015-02-13 1:12 PM WYOracer - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM SG. - 2015-02-12 8:34 PM Please share feeds are made in Ionophore free mills. The other long thread has left many confused. If you list a feed besure that it is a mill made from an Ionophore Free Facility. Not a mill that follows yada yada.. see long thread for all of that. Also designate National or Regional.
The first two I personally know of. Maybe this will make it easier for those that don't want to wade through all the pages
1 ) Purina* National
2 ) Blue Bonnet- Regional
I believe a few places here in Nebraska sell it too. |
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rachellyn80 - 2015-02-13 1:12 PM WYOracer - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM SG. - 2015-02-12 8:34 PM Please share feeds are made in Ionophore free mills. The other long thread has left many confused. If you list a feed besure that it is a mill made from an Ionophore Free Facility. Not a mill that follows yada yada.. see long thread for all of that. Also designate National or Regional.
The first two I personally know of. Maybe this will make it easier for those that don't want to wade through all the pages
1 ) Purina* National
2 ) Blue Bonnet- Regional
I can get blue bonnet in New Mexico. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SG. - 2015-02-13 8:34 AM Murphy - 2015-02-13 8:00 AM Tripe Crown NE mill. From what I have learned not all triple crown comes from clean mills Know where your TC comes from
I was told that the Mills were Triple Crown is milled that does cattle feed, they have segregrated areas. That being said..I will make sure to check my tags before I purchase.
Triple Crown Sequin Mill (81) and (BY) are ionophore mills. 81 is Sequin, TX and BY is Byhalia, MS. |
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Location: Texas! | brlracerchick - 2015-02-13 12:34 PM
rachellyn80 - 2015-02-13 1:12 PM WYOracer - 2015-02-13 12:53 PM SG. - 2015-02-12 8:34 PM Please share feeds are made in Ionophore free mills. The other long thread has left many confused. If you list a feed besure that it is a mill made from an Ionophore Free Facility. Not a mill that follows yada yada.. see long thread for all of that. Also designate National or Regional.
The first two I personally know of. Maybe this will make it easier for those that don't want to wade through all the pages
1 ) Purina* National
2 ) Blue Bonnet- Regional
I was also able to buy it when I lived in Wyoming from a dealer in Colorado. |
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Location: Here | SmokinGirlie - 2015-02-13 9:31 PM
Thank you for this!!
You are welcome. just hoping to make it simplier |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SmokinGirlie - 2015-02-13 9:31 PM Thank you for this!!
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Location: Here | kwanatha - 2015-02-14 10:13 AM any mills in California?
Safe feed in California would be the national brands that have been listed so far. Hopefully we will learn more |
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Location: NW MT | so ALL of Purina horse feeds are I-free? I wonder about their rolled grains, like oats & barley?
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Location: Here | Rockyroad - 2015-02-14 3:56 PM so ALL of Purina horse feeds are I-free? I wonder about their rolled grains, like oats & barley?
thanks for this thread!
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Location: Mississippi | Nevertooold - 2015-02-13 3:14 PM SG. - 2015-02-13 8:34 AM Murphy - 2015-02-13 8:00 AM Tripe Crown NE mill. From what I have learned not all triple crown comes from clean mills Know where your TC comes from
Triple Crown Sequin Mill (81) and (BY) are ionophore mills. 81 is Sequin, TX and BY is Byhalia, MS.
Well, crap! I love Triple Crown feed, have fed it since 2010, have had great results with it & felt safe feeding it since it is beet pulp based. I just looked at my tag & BY is there. I was afraid of that since I live about 60 miles from Byhalia. NOW WHAT?
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Rockyroad - 2015-02-14 3:56 PM so ALL of Purina horse feeds are I-free? I wonder about their rolled grains, like oats & barley?
thanks for this thread!
My rep told me that anything that comes out of a Purina Equine bag is Ionophore free. |
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Location: Arkansas | CYA Ranch - 2015-02-14 10:31 PM
Rockyroad - 2015-02-14 3:56 PM so ALL of Purina horse feeds are I-free? I wonder about their rolled grains, like oats & barley?
thanks for this thread!
My rep told me that anything that comes out of a Purina Equine bag is Ionophore free.
When I contacted Purina they wanted the info off the bag so they could verify which plant it came from. THEN they answered my question about it being ionophore free. Makes me wonder |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Chandler's Mom - 2015-02-15 12:08 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-14 10:31 PM Rockyroad - 2015-02-14 3:56 PM so ALL of Purina horse feeds are I-free? I wonder about their rolled grains, like oats & barley?
thanks for this thread! My rep told me that anything that comes out of a Purina Equine bag is Ionophore free. When I contacted Purina they wanted the info off the bag so they could verify which plant it came from. THEN they answered my question about it being ionophore free. Makes me wonder
Anymore, I think it would be smart to ask no matter what you feed. For me personally I know that the PUrina in my neck of the woods comes from KC and the cattle feed comes from Sioux City, IA. |
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Location: Arkansas | CYA Ranch - 2015-02-15 12:42 PM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-02-15 12:08 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-14 10:31 PM Rockyroad - 2015-02-14 3:56 PM so ALL of Purina horse feeds are I-free? I wonder about their rolled grains, like oats & barley?
thanks for this thread! My rep told me that anything that comes out of a Purina Equine bag is Ionophore free. When I contacted Purina they wanted the info off the bag so they could verify which plant it came from. THEN they answered my question about it being ionophore free. Makes me wonder
Mine comes from Shreveport and I was assured it was I-free. It's so sad we pay good money to take care of our horses and then can't trust that the feed is safe. I mean to buy a product and then have to call the company to verify that it is safe to be used for what its packaged for???? |
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Location: Here | NJJ - 2015-02-15 8:57 AM Thanks for this info....I was dreading looking through the other very loooooong thread.......
You're welcome, I am hoping we can keep this one on track of simply listing the feeds. |
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Location: Texas Big Country | I contacted Nutrena - they said their plant in Abilene, TX is ionophore free. I am getting the Safe Choice made there. |
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | blueskies - 2015-02-15 11:02 PM
Could alfalfa cubes be tainted too?
Anyone know about Bryant feeds?
Alfalfa cubes/pellets can be. I recently switched to Chaffehay because my alfalfa pellets were not processed at an I-free facility. :(
Also, it is my understanding that Purina has different mills for horse feed. Not even in the same location as cattle feed. |
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Location: North Texas | For the uneducated (Me) please explain what Ionophore Free Feed is. I know what weed seed free feed is.......................... |
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For the uneducated (Me) please explain what Ionophore Free Feed is. I know what weed seed free feed is..........................
Ionophores are antibiotics that are mixed in with cattle feed to make them gain weight quicker. THey are extremely toxic and poisonous to horses. Problem recently, is mills that make this cattle feed also make horse feed. Because of lack of cleaning etc these toxins are finding their way into horse feed and killing horses |
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Location: North Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-02-16 10:05 AM foundation horse - 2015-02-16 7:53 AM For the uneducated (Me) please explain what Ionophore Free Feed is. I know what weed seed free feed is.......................... Ionophores are antibiotics that are mixed in with cattle feed to make them gain weight quicker. THey are extremely toxic and poisonous to horses. Problem recently, is mills that make this cattle feed also make horse feed. Because of lack of cleaning etc these toxins are finding their way into horse feed and killing horses
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | There is a great article in todays BBR news about the Ionophore poisoning. Page 84 of their online magazine. |
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Location: Texas | blueskies - 2015-02-15 11:02 PM Could alfalfa cubes be tainted too? Anyone know about Bryant feeds?
I've emailed Bryant and will post their answer when I receive it. |
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Location: Texas | Fun2Run - 2015-02-16 4:38 PM blueskies - 2015-02-15 11:02 PM Could alfalfa cubes be tainted too? Anyone know about Bryant feeds? I've emailed Bryant and will post their answer when I receive it.
Bryant answered me that they use no Monensin or Rumensin in their feed. When I asked about their medicated cattle feed, they replied this:
The Medicated feeds for cattle are medicated w/ Chlortetracyline, not an ionophore. We do not handle any products, such as Rumensin or Urea that can be detrimental to equine.
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Location: NC | SG. - 2015-02-17 8:21 PM
Bump for racer4evr
Thank you! i had actually posted in this thread and was told to post in the other one. Good to see blue seal/kent is safe. Now just to wonder about southern states |
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Location: Texas | I've been stalking Red River Grain's website and it looks like they handle NO medicated feed at all. I emailed them, and they use zero antibiotics - no ionophores, no chlortetracycline, etc.
I have a Red River dealer close to me, so that's what I will be buying from now on.
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Location: Beggs, OK | CYA Ranch - 2015-02-16 12:50 PM There is a great article in todays BBR news about the Ionophore poisoning. Page 84 of their online magazine.
I'm glad they wrote the article and are raising awareness, but their information is misleading.
Using 2-3mg/kg as a "safety zone" is dangerous! That's referring to 2-3mg/kg of body weight...The "safety zone" that I'm sure that they read about before writing this article is the LD50 for Monensin in horse feed. Do we really want to use a "safety zone" that will kill 50% of the horses that are exposed???
Any amount of an ionophore in horse feed is toxic, period. I want to know that my feed is safe for ALL of my horses, not just the ones that aren't sensitive to trace amounts. There is no FIX or CURE or REHABILITATION from ionophore poisoning. Horses that are exposed don't always show symptoms immediately. They may not exhibit heart abnormalities for months....Do you really want to ride a horse or put your child on a horse that has heart damage? |
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Location: Here | rachellyn80 - 2015-02-18 1:01 PM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-16 12:50 PM There is a great article in todays BBR news about the Ionophore poisoning. Page 84 of their online magazine. I'm glad they wrote the article and are raising awareness, but their information is misleading.
Using 2-3mg/kg as a "safety zone" is dangerous! That's referring to 2-3mg/kg of body weight...The "safety zone" that I'm sure that they read about before writing this article is the LD50 for Monensin in horse feed. Do we really want to use a "safety zone" that will kill 50% of the horses that are exposed???
Any amount of an ionophore in horse feed is toxic, period. I want to know that my feed is safe for ALL of my horses, not just the ones that aren't sensitive to trace amounts. There is no FIX or CURE or REHABILITATION from ionophore poisoning. Horses that are exposed don't always show symptoms immediately. They may not exhibit heart abnormalities for months....Do you really want to ride a horse or put your child on a horse that has heart damage?
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Location: Beggs, OK | Statement by Reata Equine regarding ionophores in horse feed: http://www.reataequine.com/node/367
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OMG...I was on my Kindle last night and didn't even notice that it did that! LOL
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Location: Here | Fun2Run - 2015-02-18 12:27 PM I've been stalking Red River Grain's website and it looks like they handle NO medicated feed at all. I emailed them, and they use zero antibiotics - no ionophores, no chlortetracycline, etc.
I have a Red River dealer close to me, so that's what I will be buying from now on.
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Location: Texas | SG. - 2015-02-22 2:55 PM Fun2Run - 2015-02-18 12:27 PM I've been stalking Red River Grain's website and it looks like they handle NO medicated feed at all. I emailed them, and they use zero antibiotics - no ionophores, no chlortetracycline, etc.
I have a Red River dealer close to me, so that's what I will be buying from now on.
Make sure they dont use bovatec
They don't use Bovatec either!
Also, their website shows no medicated feeds at all. |
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Location: Here | Fun2Run - 2015-02-22 3:22 PM SG. - 2015-02-22 2:55 PM Fun2Run - 2015-02-18 12:27 PM I've been stalking Red River Grain's website and it looks like they handle NO medicated feed at all. I emailed them, and they use zero antibiotics - no ionophores, no chlortetracycline, etc.
I have a Red River dealer close to me, so that's what I will be buying from now on.
Make sure they dont use bovatec
Also, their website shows no medicated feeds at all.
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SG. - 2015-02-22 2:55 PM Fun2Run - 2015-02-18 12:27 PM I've been stalking Red River Grain's website and it looks like they handle NO medicated feed at all. I emailed them, and they use zero antibiotics - no ionophores, no chlortetracycline, etc.
I have a Red River dealer close to me, so that's what I will be buying from now on.
Make sure they dont use bovatec
Also, their website shows no medicated feeds at all.
Red river grain out of Kingston?
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Location: Texas | Here's their website. I think they are in Kingston.
http://www.redrivergrainok.com/default.html |
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Location: Midwest | Crown feed in Crown Point, IN mixes feed on the premises. They do not mix any medicated feeds. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Nevertooold - 2015-02-13 3:14 PM SG. - 2015-02-13 8:34 AM Murphy - 2015-02-13 8:00 AM Tripe Crown NE mill. From what I have learned not all triple crown comes from clean mills Know where your TC comes from
Triple Crown Sequin Mill (81) and (BY) are ionophore mills. 81 is Sequin, TX and BY is Byhalia, MS.
Someone at TC is telling people that the Byhalia is ionophore free.... We need to check on this one. |
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Location: /ARKANSAS | My nutrena is milled in Minneapolis, where did you find the information to contact them, this really caught my attention because my guys are falling off a little in weight, I never have skinny horses! |
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Location: western Nebraska | I had a rep from Nutrena call me today. He said they have always taken extreme care to have no safety issues. I said I didn't care about that-I wanted to know about the plant in Sterling, CO. He said they are ionophore free from now on. He said they aren't issuing a big statement about it but he would guarantee it. He also said they had been getting lots of calls. |
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Location: on my horse | How do you guys figure out where your feed is milled? I don't have a bag tag handy at the moment but am curious. I've been feeding nutrena empower boost |
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Location: western Nebraska | On the tag where it says LOT: 4f is for Sterling, CO. I think just look at what yours says and call the company. |
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Location: Here | doglady - 2015-04-06 9:21 PM I had a rep from Nutrena call me today. He said they have always taken extreme care to have no safety issues. I said I didn't care about that-I wanted to know about the plant in Sterling, CO. He said they are ionophore free from now on. He said they aren't issuing a big statement about it but he would guarantee it. He also said they had been getting lots of calls.
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I had a rep from Nutrena call me today. He said they have always taken extreme care to have no safety issues. I said I didn't care about that-I wanted to know about the plant in Sterling, CO. He said they are ionophore free from now on. He said they aren't issuing a big statement about it but he would guarantee it. He also said they had been getting lots of calls.
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Location: SE KS | I went to my local purina Coop yesterday - Picked up a bag of Purina - the feed strip is stjwith #and date of manufactoredwith shift (St joe, MO). Per the manager of my coop - the purina mill from St Joe, MO is only Dairy and horse feed. For those of you that don't know - Dairy cattle can not have and type of ionophore in their feed.
So if you Purina is from St Joe you should be safe.
And Bovatec free.
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Location: Beggs, OK | Here's the response that I received from Triple Crown today:
My Question-
Could you please provide a list of your mills that are ionophore free? I am aware of all of the controls in place in your facilities. What I am looking for is a list of the mills that do not use ionophores at all.
Thank You-
Their response-
Rachel,
Thanks for contacting Triple Crown. Here is a list of the mills that we use that are rumensin/monensin free:
Coop Milling, Gettysburg, PA
Valdosta Mill, Valdosta, GA
Byhalia Mississippi mill
Sterling Colorado mill
Burlington Washington mill
Seguin Texas mill
Alexander NY mill
Albany NY mill
Milton Wisconsin does have it in the mill, but there are separate lines and mixers for medicated and non-medicated feeds... medicated feeds would never be run on the non-medicated side where the horse feeds are produced.
Please let me know how I can assist further.
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Location: Beggs, OK | So then I questioned further:
Do these mills that are Monensin free use Lasalocid or any other ionophores?
Their response:
I just confirmed that these are totally Ionophore free… (except the Wisconsin mill - but as I mentioned, they have separate lines and systems for medicated and non-medicated feeds)
Please let me know how I can assist further.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | rachellyn80 - 2015-04-07 2:39 PM So then I questioned further:
Do these mills that are Monensin free use Lasalocid or any other ionophores?
Their response:
I just confirmed that these are totally Ionophore free… (except the Wisconsin mill - but as I mentioned, they have separate lines and systems for medicated and non-medicated feeds)
Please let me know how I can assist further.
Thanks!
Its like pulling teeth to get some of these companies to say whether they are COMPLETELY ionophore free. I really wonder if these people even know what the heck we're asking them. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | CYA Ranch - 2015-04-07 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-04-07 2:39 PM So then I questioned further:
Do these mills that are Monensin free use Lasalocid or any other ionophores?
Their response:
I just confirmed that these are totally Ionophore free… (except the Wisconsin mill - but as I mentioned, they have separate lines and systems for medicated and non-medicated feeds)
Please let me know how I can assist further.
Thanks!
Its like pulling teeth to get some of these companies to say whether they are COMPLETELY ionophore free. I really wonder if these people even know what the heck we're asking them.
Exactly. I followed up with asking if there were medicated mills that produced Triple Crown horse feeds other than the one in Wisconsin.
Here's the response:
Yes,
There are mills that produce medicated feeds and also produce our feeds. Your area code puts you in Oklahoma. Your area would typically only be supplied only by the Seguin, Texas mill (indicated by an 81 on the feed tag). That mill was down for a bit for upgrades and the feed to that area has been supplied by: Byhalia Mississippi mill (indicated by a BY on the feed dag) and the Casa Grande, AZ mill (indicated by a CG on the feed tag)- The Casa Grande mill does produce feeds with ionophores.
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I just want to thank all of you that have kept us upraised of this information and continue to help with any new information, the rest of us owe you a lot!!! |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I am at home but I got a different answer from Triple Crown on the Valdosta GA mill. I will forward the email tomorrow from work. It was my understanding they do have and process the feeds with monensin in them there. |
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Location: Here | rachellyn80 - 2015-04-07 4:02 PM CYA Ranch - 2015-04-07 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-04-07 2:39 PM So then I questioned further:
Do these mills that are Monensin free use Lasalocid or any other ionophores?
Their response:
I just confirmed that these are totally Ionophore free… (except the Wisconsin mill - but as I mentioned, they have separate lines and systems for medicated and non-medicated feeds)
Please let me know how I can assist further.
Thanks!
Its like pulling teeth to get some of these companies to say whether they are COMPLETELY ionophore free. I really wonder if these people even know what the heck we're asking them.
Here's the response:
Yes,
There are mills that produce medicated feeds and also produce our feeds. Your area code puts you in Oklahoma. Your area would typically only be supplied only by the Seguin, Texas mill (indicated by an 81 on the feed tag ). That mill was down for a bit for upgrades and the feed to that area has been supplied by: Byhalia Mississippi mill (indicated by a BY on the feed dag ) and the Casa Grande, AZ mill (indicated by a CG on the feed tag )- The Casa Grande mill does produce feeds with ionophores.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | This is the answer that I received from Triple Crown. From: Triple Crown Answers [mailto:Answers@triplecrownfeed.com]
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 12:43 PM
To: Nancy Jones
Subject: RE: Feed
Hello Nancy,
Thank you for reaching out to us. Your Triple Crown feed is made at the Southern States mill in Valdosta, GA and regarding the recent incidents, Southern States has made the following statement released to the public that I wanted to share with you! http://www.southernstates.com/articles/feed-statement2.aspx
Any other questions, please let us know.
Jessica Drexler, PAS
Community Manager
952-905-2180 (direct line)
 952-473-6330 | website | blog | facebook | dealers
315 Lake Street East, Suite 300| Wayzata, MN 55391
From: Nancy Jones
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 9:01 AM
To: Triple Crown Answers
Subject: Feed
I am new to Triple Crown feed. Can you please answer a question for me?
Is any of the Triple Crown horse feed that would be distributed in SE Georgia produced in a mill that also uses monesin? Or other cattle additives?
Thanks
Nancy Jones
I then sent them this email in response because I felt that they avoided the question - I never did get an answer.
Thank you for answering.
Yes, I was aware of the statement recently released. However, my question is – at the Valdosta mill, which is only 45 miles from my house, is monensin used on the same production line?
Thank you.
I think they are all lying and unless you mention the product by brand name, scientific name or street name, they are not going to give you a straight answer.
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Location: Here | That statement is just wrong. Safe practices barf. I want to see these people start putting it on their and their families cereal every morning and then eat it. Bet they change safe practices to free |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | SG. - 2015-04-08 8:24 AM That statement is just wrong. Safe practices barf. I want to see these people start putting it on their and their families cereal every morning and then eat it. Bet they change safe practices to free I know. I can click on a link in the email and it says for more in depth questions about feed, please contact us. So, I just did. We will see if I get an answer. I am not feeding anything from a manufacturer at the moment. I really want to go to the plant and see for myself what is there. But, they won't let you in.
What really makes me so mad is that when I sent the followup email, they choose not to answer. To me, that means they are guilty. If they were not, they would have responded.
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Location: Beggs, OK | We are most definitely being lied to. Lying by omission is still lying. Dismissing concerns by telling a horse owner that one toxin is much less dangerous than another is just as wrong. |
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Location: Oklahoma | The feed companies must think we are uneducated and stupid. What they don't know is that we (Rachel especially) have done studying and reading to educate ourselves. It's making them look bad.
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Location: Here | rachellyn80 - 2015-04-08 8:12 AM We are most definitely being lied to. Lying by omission is still lying. Dismissing concerns by telling a horse owner that one toxin is much less dangerous than another is just as wrong.
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| 3canstorun - 2015-04-08 7:42 AM
SG. - 2015-04-08 8:24 AM That statement is just wrong. Safe practices barf. I want to see these people start putting it on their and their families cereal every morning and then eat it. Bet they change safe practices to free I know. I can click on a link in the email and it says for more in depth questions about feed, please contact us. So, I just did. We will see if I get an answer. I am not feeding anything from a manufacturer at the moment. I really want to go to the plant and see for myself what is there. But, they won't let you in.
What really makes me so mad is that when I sent the followup email, they choose not to answer. To me, that means they are guilty. If they were not, they would have responded.
Maybe you should send them another email telling them that since they are not answering your questions, you will regretfully not be buying their feed and will not be able to recommend it to anyone asking about their feed. I wonder if we started letting them know that a specific person is going to not buy their feed and are going to educate all their friends about this issue and recommend people not buy their feed, if it would help get the message across to these businesses. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | The response that I just received from Purina was disappointing. I asked the same question that I asked TC. Please send a list of ionophore free mills....
They wrote me back asking for the tag from my feed and they would tell me where it was manufactured.
I responded that it wasn't about my feed specifically....I would just like to know which mills do not produce ionophore medicated feed. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Here is the reply I just received from Triple Crown regarding the Valdosta GA mill.
Hi Nancy – thank you for your inquiry – specifically for our mill in Valdosta, we do not have rumensin but do have Bovatec used in beef feeds.
Please let me know if you need any further information.
Ruth
Ruth Hopke
Feed Division Technical Service
Southern States Cooperative
888.221.8987
804.281.1430
804.381.8349 cell
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From: Nancy Jones [mailto:Nancy@southern-concrete.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 8:27 AM
To: SSC Feed Questions
Subject: Valdosta GA Feed Mill
Good morning,
Can you please tell me if monensin, ionophores, Bovatec, or any rumensin products are used at the Valdosta GA mill?
I am aware of your safety plans, and your awards for safe feed handling and all the precautions that you take and implement.
I just would like to know if any of the above-mentioned or any other cattle feeds are made at the same facility.
Thank you
Nancy Jones
So, you can see that unless you do ask specific questions - you will not get a good answer. Cross Triple Crown off the list of safe feeds from the Georgia plant.
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Location: Beggs, OK | 3canstorun - 2015-04-08 10:03 AM Here is the reply I just received from Triple Crown regarding the Valdosta GA mill.
Hi Nancy – thank you for your inquiry – specifically for our mill in Valdosta, we do not have rumensin but do have Bovatec used in beef feeds.
Please let me know if you need any further information.
Ruth
Ruth Hopke
Feed Division Technical Service
Southern States Cooperative
888.221.8987
804.281.1430
804.381.8349 cell
Ruth.hopke@sscoop.com
SSCfeedquestions@sscoop.com
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From: Nancy Jones [ mailto:Nancy@southern-concrete.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 8:27 AM
To: SSC Feed Questions
Subject: Valdosta GA Feed Mill
Good morning,
Can you please tell me if monensin, ionophores, Bovatec, or any rumensin products are used at the Valdosta GA mill?
I am aware of your safety plans, and your awards for safe feed handling and all the precautions that you take and implement.
I just would like to know if any of the above-mentioned or any other cattle feeds are made at the same facility.
Thank you
Nancy Jones
So, you can see that unless you do ask specific questions - you will not get a good answer. Cross Triple Crown off the list of safe feeds from the Georgia plant.
Stacy Andersen with Triple Crown is who answered my inquiry. Sounds like she and Ruth need to talk.
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Location: Here | Honestly I am tired of them twisting this whole ionophore deal and not including Bovatec This is the exact same thing Red Chain feeds aka Gorman mills did. What is even more irritating for examply Gorman isn't on the FDA list as being approved to handled ionophore feeds. So what the heck. |
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| Fun2Run - 2015-02-17 7:23 PM Fun2Run - 2015-02-16 4:38 PM blueskies - 2015-02-15 11:02 PM Could alfalfa cubes be tainted too? Anyone know about Bryant feeds? I've emailed Bryant and will post their answer when I receive it.
The Medicated feeds for cattle are medicated w/ Chlortetracyline, not an ionophore. We do not handle any products, such as Rumensin or Urea that can be detrimental to equine.
That is exactly what my feedstore guy told me. I feed Bryant to an old timer. He does well on it and I had planned to leave him on it regardless of status due to the fact that he doesn't have that long left. Or I didn't think he did anyway. He has probably put on 100 lbs on this feed in the last two months. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SG. - 2015-04-07 7:46 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-04-07 4:02 PM CYA Ranch - 2015-04-07 3:37 PM rachellyn80 - 2015-04-07 2:39 PM So then I questioned further:
Do these mills that are Monensin free use Lasalocid or any other ionophores?
Their response:
I just confirmed that these are totally Ionophore free… (except the Wisconsin mill - but as I mentioned, they have separate lines and systems for medicated and non-medicated feeds)
Please let me know how I can assist further.
Thanks!
Its like pulling teeth to get some of these companies to say whether they are COMPLETELY ionophore free. I really wonder if these people even know what the heck we're asking them.
Here's the response:
Yes,
There are mills that produce medicated feeds and also produce our feeds. Your area code puts you in Oklahoma. Your area would typically only be supplied only by the Seguin, Texas mill (indicated by an 81 on the feed tag ). That mill was down for a bit for upgrades and the feed to that area has been supplied by: Byhalia Mississippi mill (indicated by a BY on the feed dag ) and the Casa Grande, AZ mill (indicated by a CG on the feed tag )- The Casa Grande mill does produce feeds with ionophores.
I can't remember where I read it, but, it was posted that Byhalia does medicated feed in a segregrated area. It's all too confusing so I'm done with Triple Crown. I have checked tags at many different feed stores and I have not found one bag of Triple Crown SR that has come from the Sequin, Texas mill. It's been either the BY or CG mill. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | kmcsunshine - 2015-04-20 6:54 PM Fun2Run - 2015-02-17 7:23 PM Fun2Run - 2015-02-16 4:38 PM blueskies - 2015-02-15 11:02 PM Could alfalfa cubes be tainted too? Anyone know about Bryant feeds? I've emailed Bryant and will post their answer when I receive it.
The Medicated feeds for cattle are medicated w/ Chlortetracyline, not an ionophore. We do not handle any products, such as Rumensin or Urea that can be detrimental to equine.
I think that many of the weather related colics, ulcers, and general lack of conditioning that we see are more related to what we are putting in their bellies.
Mine are still drawn up, but are improving. I'm trying to find a good alternative to commercial concentrated feeds completely. I sent you a PM on Facebook about the one that I've found that might be feasible for you. They have several dealers in West Texas and are looking for more ranch type users of this product. They don't want to sell it out of feed stores. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | blueskies - 2015-04-22 8:29 PM I'm still confused ~ ugh! Is Bryant feed safe? bluebonnet feed is safe right ?
BlueBonnet is safe and many have gone to their line of feeds. I'm trying to get it.
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Location: Oklahoma | This is probably stupid question but do you have to worry bout alfalfa pellets? |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Turnburnsis - 2015-04-22 11:44 PM This is probably stupid question but do you have to worry bout alfalfa pellets?
Yes. Standlee is clean. I'm not sure about the others. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2015-04-23 10:17 AM Turnburnsis - 2015-04-22 11:44 PM This is probably stupid question but do you have to worry bout alfalfa pellets? Yes. Standlee is clean. I'm not sure about the others.
I bought a bag of the Standlee alfalfa pellets last week and my horse loves them. I never liked their beet pulp shreds or their baled alfalfa so I was kind of hesistant but I needed to get something. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Nevertooold - 2015-04-23 10:44 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-04-23 10:17 AM Turnburnsis - 2015-04-22 11:44 PM This is probably stupid question but do you have to worry bout alfalfa pellets? Yes. Standlee is clean. I'm not sure about the others.
Their pellets and cubes both are great. The compressed bales are very shattery tho, which makes them dusty. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2015-04-23 10:49 AM Nevertooold - 2015-04-23 10:44 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-04-23 10:17 AM Turnburnsis - 2015-04-22 11:44 PM This is probably stupid question but do you have to worry bout alfalfa pellets? Yes. Standlee is clean. I'm not sure about the others.
Very dusty on the compressed bales.
I've never tried their cubes. He seems to really like the alfalfa pellets and use to get fed them when he was in Arizona and never was thrilled with other alfalfa cubes so I guess I will stick with the pellets even though I'm not a pellet fan. At least it's a safe feed..LOL |
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Location: North Dakota | Someone else asked about Woody's and I was concerned too. There is an article relaying to this topic on their website. I feel confident that their horse feed is ionophore free. Link to the article. Interesting twist they put into perspective.
http://www.woodysfeed.com/articles.html
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Location: Oklahoma | I have been getting shawnee alfalfa pellets. I called them to ask. They said they get it already made they just clean it. So how do i check for sure? |
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Location: Here | Turnburnsis - 2015-04-24 12:02 AM I have been getting shawnee alfalfa pellets. I called them to ask. They said they get it already made they just clean it. So how do i check for sure?
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | Anyone know if HiPro feeds are made at ionophore free facilities? Im looking at their performance textured feed and would like to try it but can’t find anything on it in regards to that. I know it’s processed at Cheyenne Oklahoma mill of theirs and also Friona Texas. I feed Koolspeed also and it’s stamped on the bag processed at ionophore free facility but I’m wondering about HiPro as they have that high fat feed I’d like to try and I’d like to get my alfalfa pellets from them too as their dealers are far more plentiful in Oklahoma where I am.
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Location: Claremore, OK | BBrewster - 2019-02-22 3:02 PM
Anyone know if HiPro feeds are made at ionophore free facilities?
Im looking at their performance textured feed and would like to try it but can’t find anything on it in regards to that. I know it’s processed at Cheyenne Oklahoma mill of theirs and also Friona Texas.
I feed Koolspeed also and it’s stamped on the bag processed at ionophore free facility but I’m wondering about HiPro as they have that high fat feed I’d like to try and I’d like to get my alfalfa pellets from them too as their dealers are far more plentiful in Oklahoma where I am.
I don’t know about HiPro. Since they’re in Friona (heart of feedlot country) and cater to the feedlot industry I wouldn’t expect it to be ionophore free. it May have changed lately, but a few years ago Kool Speed wanted to sponsor me. It was right during all he ionophore problems. I was told it was an ionophore free facility but when I asked for a tour of the facility the owner said no. I didn’t sign in with them for that reason. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | The Triple Crown I get is being milled by BlueBonnet so its a Ionophore Free mill. I live in South/Central Texas 
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | Thanks y’all ! Too bad as a horse industry we can’t require feed mills to put on the tag if it was processed in an ionophore free facility or not... you’d think the feed companies would want to use it as a selling point if they do use ionophore free facilities the way koolspeed puts it on their bag... though I wonder what the heck was up with them not letting Liana tour the facility that makes me raise an eyebrow ?? |
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