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Location: Louisiana | How do they work? Rules, fees, expectations, etc?
I have a friend who just bought a futurity colt and I'm interested. I have a colt who I think will be a nice one if he figures out it's a timed event. He's only been doing barrel work for a few weeks now but he has a nice foundation and is very good minded. Works naturally correct on his hind end and has been easy so far. The thought has crossed my mind to look into my options before I start entering in 4-Ds. He may be worth keeping at home for a while, I know there are certain dates they can't be entered before, correct? He is 3 this year. Thanks in advance for the info! |
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Location: Oklahoma | I can't help you out, but the date you're looking for is December 1, 2015 if you want to futurity him during his 4 year old year and December 1, 2016 if you want to hold him for the 5 year old futurities. Don't keep him at home... Haul him to see the sights with your seasoned horse, just don't run him.. exhibiton him. And that's all my non experienced mind has to offer for you! |
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Location: Louisiana | Longneck - 2015-02-16 3:03 PM I can't help you out, but the date you're looking for is December 1, 2015 if you want to futurity him during his 4 year old year and December 1, 2016 if you want to hold him for the 5 year old futurities. Don't keep him at home... Haul him to see the sights with your seasoned horse, just don't run him.. exhibiton him. And that's all my non experienced mind has to offer for you!
Thank you! And yes, I didn't mean literally keep him home :)
He's already been to town with the roping horses and hung out at ropings and such. He'll be tagging along with my main man to some rodeos this year. My fiancé is itching for me to enter him and I'm like, no we need to see what we have first haha. If he doesn't get the speed part, I know we have a nice kids horse on our hands with a little time, he is so sane and quiet. I was planning on entering him in some young horse classes this year but I think I'll hold off and just exhibition for a while. |
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| It is quite expensive and competing against these people who train futurity horses for a living is tough. If you are really interested in training your own horse I suggest that you have a trainer evaluate your horse to see if they actually have the potential for futurities. As for the entry fees, you usually pay to nominate the horse then pay each month to sustain them. The total for some futurities runs about $700. Some are much less.you can google the futurities in your area and find out costs. BFA has a list of futurities that are sanctioned by them. Many stallions have been paid into organizations that have other pay outs thatare for foals from participing stallions. Future Fortunes probably has the largest number of participants. Your foal has to be paid into the program to be eligible. Hope this explains on satisfactorily |
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Location: Oklahoma | dashnlotti - 2015-02-16 3:23 PM Longneck - 2015-02-16 3:03 PM I can't help you out, but the date you're looking for is December 1, 2015 if you want to futurity him during his 4 year old year and December 1, 2016 if you want to hold him for the 5 year old futurities. Don't keep him at home... Haul him to see the sights with your seasoned horse, just don't run him.. exhibiton him. And that's all my non experienced mind has to offer for you! Thank you! And yes, I didn't mean literally keep him home :)
He's already been to town with the roping horses and hung out at ropings and such. He'll be tagging along with my main man to some rodeos this year. My fiancé is itching for me to enter him and I'm like, no we need to see what we have first haha. If he doesn't get the speed part, I know we have a nice kids horse on our hands with a little time, he is so sane and quiet. I was planning on entering him in some young horse classes this year but I think I'll hold off and just exhibition for a while.
Ahh, I took it literally! Lol
Do exhibitons after the race so you can better guage where your times are sitting. |
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Location: Louisiana | This is all very hypothetical haha. Like I said, he's been going around ONE barrel for a couple weeks. Maybe in the next couple weeks or so we'll actually go through a pattern. I normally take forever to train one and I'm trying a different route. He's broke and has all the buttons. My fiancé's opinion is that it isn't that hard to go around a barrel lol. So we're speeding up the process while making sure he is learning how to work correctly. He is smart and I think he'll come on quick. Plus he doesn't get hot or excited. I'm really hopeful for him. If barrels aren't his thing, he'll head back to the heel box! |
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Location: Louisiana | streakysox - 2015-02-16 3:27 PM
It is quite expensive and competing against these people who train futurity horses for a living is tough. If you are really interested in training your own horse I suggest that you have a trainer evaluate your horse to see if they actually have the potential for futurities. As for the entry fees, you usually pay to nominate the horse then pay each month to sustain them. The total for some futurities runs about $700. Some are much less.you can google the futurities in your area and find out costs. BFA has a list of futurities that are sanctioned by them. Many stallions have been paid into organizations that have other pay outs thatare for foals from participing stallions. Future Fortunes probably has the largest number of participants. Your foal has to be paid into the program to be eligible. Hope this explains on satisfactorily
Yes, I have heard they can get quite expensive. Pretty much the only way I'll actually enter him is if he turns out to be special, and that includes clocking with the big boys and girls. I'm more interested in dates, fees, the process of nomination, etc. He isn't bred to run barrels so he is not in the FF program. Thank you!! |
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Location: California | So, I am by NO MEANS a futurity expert (haven't even competed) but have talked to a lot of people about it. The part that stood out the most to me, was when a multiple NFR qualifer and furturity champion said when you are exhibitioning your futurity horse, if they aren't running 1D times, don't even bother entering them because it is a waste of money. |
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Location: Louisiana | *almost there* - 2015-02-16 3:59 PM So, I am by NO MEANS a futurity expert (haven't even competed) but have talked to a lot of people about it. The part that stood out the most to me, was when a multiple NFR qualifer and furturity champion said when you are exhibitioning your futurity horse, if they aren't running 1D times, don't even bother entering them because it is a waste of money.
While we all dream to train a 1-D horse, is there a smaller stage for those colts that aren't quite there? Or do you just bring those to the 4-Ds and forget about futurities? I'm just asking. I'm not even convinced entering futurities is something I want to do, with this colt or another. |
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| Start small at first to cut your teeth. Don't go enter OKC in Dec with the big fees and such...most people get disappointed, then never try again. Find one in Dec or Jan close to home thats on the small side and try your colt there first to get a starting point.
If you do get more serious can pay your colt into OKC and ft. smith for his 4 yr old year. If you think he might still need to mature OR you just want to hit those later like for his derby year you can pay him in but not go so your not out the money for the cost of the show etc but still get a chance to run him his 5yr old year there. Also they can run at ft. smith as 6 yr olds in the derby.
Might want to hook up with someone who goes to a lot of futurities in your area and ask for help on which ones where be good etc. Most people are extremely helpful in the futurity world its like a big family! Good luck! |
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Location: Texas | I personally do not have any extra knowledge or info about futurities, but that is what my best friend lives for. She has had about 7 futurity horses, they take up a lot of time and she generally will focus on one horse for 1-2 years. She spends many extra hours working on fundamentals, hauling to exhibitions and swimming them. I do know futurities can be pretty expensive. She currently is selling one of her spots at a race for $600.
(Like I said not an expert, just thought I would share my tid-bit from the outside.)
The BFA website has quite a bit of information and www.thebarrelfuturitycalendar.com has a lot of dates and deadlines for races all over.
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| dashnlotti - 2015-02-16 5:37 PM
*almost there* - 2015-02-16 3:59 PM So, I am by NO MEANS a futurity expert (haven't even competed) but have talked to a lot of people about it. The part that stood out the most to me, was when a multiple NFR qualifer and furturity champion said when you are exhibitioning your futurity horse, if they aren't running 1D times, don't even bother entering them because it is a waste of money.
While we all dream to train a 1-D horse, is there a smaller stage for those colts that aren't quite there? Or do you just bring those to the 4-Ds and forget about futurities? I'm just asking. I'm not even convinced entering futurities is something I want to do, with this colt or another.
Don't be too discouraged and assume he must be clocking incredibly well to make it, sometimes they come on slow. Sometimes they need to be in the right hands. Placing at small ones in the 2D average is still an accomplishment when your starting your first one. If its something you want to do and put the money into, then go into it with a business mindset and try your hand! |
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| *almost there* - 2015-02-16 3:59 PM
So, I am by NO MEANS a futurity expert (haven't even competed) but have talked to a lot of people about it. The part that stood out the most to me, was when a multiple NFR qualifer and furturity champion said when you are exhibitioning your futurity horse, if they aren't running 1D times, don't even bother entering them because it is a waste of money.
At these events, usually there is an open race along with the futurity. It is pretty routine for a futurity entry to carryover and also when the open competing against seasoned horses. |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | A lot of the futurities run on a 2D format. 1 second split between 1D and 2D, some may have a 3D format. So even if your horse isn't running with the big dogs you can still win some big $$$ in the lower D. Plus it gives them exposure.
If this were to be your first futurity horse I would start off with smaller futurities in the beginning and then if he comes on like a house on fire start entering up... |
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Location: Louisiana | Thank you guys so much!! Y'all have been full of info! It is definitely something I will look into further and keep in mind. If not with this colt, I do think it is something I'd like to try my hand at someday. |
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Location: Texas | What are you wanting to know? Cost, ages, preparedness? |
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Location: Texas | I usually try to put deadlines up on my Facebook page. |
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| Might add that some futurities have an amateur futurity. You have to have an AQHA or APHA amateur card to participate though. More expenses!
If you will go to the various futurity sites they will have entry dates and dates for payments. Also any late fees.
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Enlighten me... I am clueless about futurities