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Location: CTX | I am in the middle of changing my horses over to RG with all the grain issues lately. And I have been reading that I am not the only one.
So, are you anticipating this increase in usage?? It wouldn't be good changing everybody over only to find out that next time we need it it is being back ordered...
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Location: southeast Texas | I'm feeding two horses RG. Right before I open my last bag I call the feed store to see how many bags they have. (And have them lay eyes on the bags they think they have) |
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Location: North Dakota | I try and pick up a bag every time I go to TSC, even if I don't need it at the moment. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I got mine today. My local TSC will not carry it so I had to drive to Jeffers to get it. I will continue to go and get it. I am excited about using it. |
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Location: CTX | Yea, for some reason all TSC's around here (we have 3 in a 30 mile radius) don't stock it.
But one of our local feed stores does. So I guess I will be making sure I get new bags as soon as I open the last one. And maybe I can get at least 1 TSC to start getting it. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | None of my local TSC carried it either when I started using it last year. My regular store was selling for $38.95 and now has it at $42.50. I called my closest TSC and they are ordering it and said they would order a few more than what I needed and if it started selling they would order on a regular basis. Oh and the price is $31.95. Just call your store and they can look it up and see that they can order. I love how my horses are doing on it. I have a 4 year old mare that has been hard for me to keep weight on and I worried about putting her on it but she looks great. I feed a pound a day with a cup of alfalfa pellets. |
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Location: North Dakota | mreklaw - 2015-02-21 9:02 PM None of my local TSC carried it either when I started using it last year. My regular store was selling for $38.95 and now has it at $42.50. I called my closest TSC and they are ordering it and said they would order a few more than what I needed and if it started selling they would order on a regular basis. Oh and the price is $31.95. Just call your store and they can look it up and see that they can order. I love how my horses are doing on it. I have a 4 year old mare that has been hard for me to keep weight on and I worried about putting her on it but she looks great. I feed a pound a day with a cup of alfalfa pellets. Yes! If they don't stock it go bug em! The first time I had to special order it but now they're stocking a few bags. I pay $29.99.
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | I switched all mine over to Renew Gold about 8 weeks ago and my horses are doing great on it and they LOVE it...it's funny the 1st day they could smell it when I started mixing it in and kinda turned their noses up at it but then overnight they all decided to eat it and ever since then they decided they love it..so much so that they lick their buckets clean which never happened before and even my gelding whose soo picky and chooses his alfalfa before grain always now he waits for his renew gold lol even if he has alfalfa in front of him...i mix my renew gold with just a couple handfuls of purina senior only because I have some supplements like msm and electrolytes that don't stick well to the renew gold...but i am very happy with it. |
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| Our TSC is also starting to carry it and many others are making the switch.
I have been feeding it for a year and LOVE LOVE LOVE it. Can't say enough good things. |
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Location: WYOMING | I like it but its too hard to get and too expensive to order it. TSC isnt cooperating. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | geronabean - 2015-02-22 7:00 AM I like it but its too hard to get and too expensive to order it. TSC isnt cooperating.
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Location: CTX | Mmmm, maybe we need TSC managment to step in. Why is it so difficult for some store to have it, and some have no issue with it......
Also, not sure what you all are pa[aying, but the feedstore I get it from now has it for 34.95 plus tax..... The tax is just because some people use it as a supplement.... 
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| cranky B4 10am - 2015-02-22 7:28 AM
Mmmm, maybe we need TSC managment to step in. Why is it so difficult for some store to have it, and some have no issue with it......
Also, not sure what you all are pa[aying, but the feedstore I get it from now has it for 34.95 plus tax..... The tax is just because some people use it as a supplement....
Just tell the feed store that your using it for cattle. No tax! I pay 28.20 a bag. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Sorry that I did not respond here sooner. I am enjoying the last two days of quail season with friends in Texas and have very poor internet service on the ranch. To answer your questions , we can make plenty of Renew Gold. We do no direct store sales, so all goes through distributors. As long as a store puts an order in, they will be able to get it. That does not mean that all stores are good about maintaining inventory. One advantage of the very low feed rate is that planning ahead for your needs can be pretty easy. The Tractor Supply deal is frustrating. The item number for their system is 1054391. If your local TSC store gets its stock from Waverly Nebraska or Waco TX they can simply add it to their order and it will come to the store like anything else that they order. Many Tractor stores that do not draw from those warehouses are using that item number to special order RG. In that case, it is a store by store decision to do so. We are pushing them to expand to more warehouses as hard as we can. On a brighter note, we can help with a local independent feed store if you call us at 530-934-9300. Don't rely on our dealer locator, it is hopelessly wrong, and we are working right now on a better system. Call us, we can answer your feeding questions, and find you a store just about anywhere.
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Location: CTX | Thanks for answering. 
I am actually 30 miles from Waco, so I would think all our TSC's around get their stock from there. But I will ask the manager next time I am in the store.
And I do agree with the low feed ratio making it easier to plan ahead.
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Location: WYOMING | I tried a bag and really like it but I won't pay $53 bucks when friends up the road a bit are paying $30... so until the supply chain is better I had to go to another product more readily available. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | My TSC said he can't even order it. Jeffers had to for $34 so I got it from there and also got a day trip with husband. So not bad for me. |
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Location: OKLAHOMA | I had ed ADM for almost 14 years. After speaking with Win a couple of weeks ago. I switched my 3 to Renew Gold. I have noticed like somebody else said the horse seem to really like it, also I noticed yesterday one of my girls is starting to shed also. I have posted on one of the other threads also. I want to extend a huge prayer to all those who are fighting this battle and for those horses with issues from the junk. Good luck to all those switching and/or trying to figure it out.. |
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Location: Willows, CA | A store charging $53 is not a supply issue. It is a store issue. It is not legal for us to tell them what to sell Renew Gold for. If the store thinks you will pay it, they will charge it. We charge the same price to every distributor we sell to. This is a good reason to encourage Tractor Supply to carry it. Their standard pricing can bring feed stores more into line. The Waco TX warehouse serves 250 Tractor Supply stores in TX, OK, NM, LA, so any of those TSC stores can get it. The Waverly warehouse serves all the Western States. |
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Location: WYOMING | I have talked to store managers, web managers and left messages on FB for TSC in an effort to carry RG. No luck. I have friends trying to do the same with their TSC. No luck. Call it a store or supply issue, if you have very willing customers who want the product but can not get it or cannot get it at at a reasonible price... its an issue for both of us. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Yes, Tractor Supply is a super slow mover in adding distribution areas. They have five, and we are now in two. Every addition requires a committe to approve and put in place. This can be frustrating for a company to deal with. There is simply nothing we can do to move them faster from our side, but they do notice when you ask. Some independent stores resist because they see Renew Gold cutting their historic grain sales by a big amount. They don't consider what they save in space, damage, and returned bad grain based feed. Others embrace the advances that we have made and see their sales grow accordingly. It just depends on how professional your feed store is. There are very few stores in the country that do not have access to RG today. If you have a local store that you feel is holding you up, call and we will work to find or set up another store in your area that will serve your needs better. We are horse people ourselves and understand the need for customer service. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | That is my issue up here. TS I can't get it from, they were very nice but said not enough customers and its up to me to find more. My local feed store gets it from a distributor (Bradley Caldwell) who he says charges him $45.00 a bag to him and in turn he sells it to me for $50.00. I called another feed dealer in town, he was going to charge me $53 - he said its the distributor. For us its Bradley Caldwell and its just plain wrong, but I will pay it. I'm hoping when I go to shows out of state I can pick some up cheaper and load up as it has a 1 year shelf life. The changes I've seen in my horses are worth it. |
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| I started feeding it 3 weeks ago. LOVE IT! I am on good terms with the manager of the TSC closest to me. I called and gave her the SKU number and she ordered me 4 bags. My horses are looking good and more importantly, feeling good. |
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Location: Back in MT BABY!!! | 3canstorun - 2015-02-22 2:51 PM My TSC said he can't even order it. Jeffers had to for $34 so I got it from there and also got a day trip with husband. So not bad for me.
My TSC gave me this run around for a while as well. They can order it...they just don't want to.
It took me over 6 weeks (with me and the manna pro rep working on them) to get my store to order it but they did. |
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Location: Not where I should be... | I have been super duper happy with my local TSC. I called to have them order more for me this morning, and they said they figured I would be ordering soon and already had it in the store for me. Kudos to the Siloam Springs, AR store!!
I think the whole TSC deal is just how customer friendly the manager wants to be... as long as they get stock from the 2 warehouses that carry it. I initially called a closer TSC and they wanted me to come down in person to tell them I wanted it ordered, no thanks. |
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| rodeodreamin - 2015-02-23 11:47 AM
I have been super duper happy with my local TSC. I called to have them order more for me this morning, and they said they figured I would be ordering soon and already had it in the store for me. Kudos to the Siloam Springs, AR store!!
I think the whole TSC deal is just how customer friendly the manager wants to be... as long as they get stock from the 2 warehouses that carry it. I initially called a closer TSC and they wanted me to come down in person to tell them I wanted it ordered, no thanks.
My guess is they have people who ordered something and never come to get it. I can see their point. Especially if its a product that doesn't sell a lot of volume, like RG. |
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Location: Texas | What is the texture of it?
I have a old mare that is 33 yrs old, and when I changed her feed last year I put them on TC, but did look into RG and just couldn't decide. Is it great for these older ones too? She isn't able to eat any hay or much grass, due to teeth. |
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Location: Willows, CA | Renew Gold is a very soft pellet. It needs to go to a meal form in the mouth to function properly. To do this it is intentionally made as soft as possible. A horse without good teeth can still eat it with no issues. |
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| winwillows - 2015-02-23 12:44 PM
Renew Gold is a very soft pellet. It needs to go to a meal form in the mouth to function properly. To do this it is intentionally made as soft as possible. A horse without good teeth can still eat it with no issues.
I pour a little hot water on it when I feed it and my horses love the soupy texture. |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | What are the feeding recommendations? Going to see if I can get any stores close to me to start ordering. |
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Location: Willows, CA | UTAHCANCHASER - 2015-02-23 3:54 PM
What are the feeding recommendations? Going to see if I can get any stores close to me to start ordering.
I have written before about our half pound rule. It goes like this. One half pound of Renew Gold per job the horse does. Living is a job. Growing is a job. Being ridden is a job. Weight gain is a job. High stress from extreme hauling can be a job. An example of this would be a three year old in training would be doing three jobs, living, growing and being ridden, and would eat 1 1/2 pounds per day. On the other hand, a mature horse that is being ridden would do two jobs, living , being ridden, and would eat one pound per day. If that same mature horse needed to add weight it would eat 1 1/2 pounds per day until it was at the desired weight, then that weight gain job would go away and so would the extra 1/2 pound. This is based on having good quality hay or pasture, good parasite control, and up to date dental care. The teeth issue is often the one overlooked, as we are relying on much more complete digestion of the roughage part of the diet in the hind gut, and it is important that the horse can comfortably chew that roughage as completely as possible before it swallows it. Also, if the hay is too poor, and additional feed is needed because of that, do not feed more than two pounds of any concentrate feed, including Renew Gold at any one feeding. Provide fresh water and salt. In general, additional Vit/Min supplementation is not necessary unless you have a regional shortage of a specific mineral (like selenium in the Pacific North West). We typically do not recommend a daily probiotic, hoof conditioners, coat conditioners or other additional supplements, though if you are in love with any of that there is not a conflict with them. Follow this guideline and call if you have any questions. Simple as that. |
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| readytorodeo - 2015-02-23 4:39 PM
How many cups of renew gold equals 1 1/2 lbs?
I was wondering the same thing. I have just switched to it (Friday), but until I can get to walmart and get a scale to weigh it, all I have to go off of is a purina scoop that shows one lb....although I did take a can of peas out and try to compare weights...(don't laugh) |
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Location: Willows, CA | readytorodeo - 2015-02-23 4:39 PM
How many cups of renew gold equals 1 1/2 lbs?
A little over 5 kitchen measuring cups would equal 1 1/2 pounds/
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | winwillows - 2015-02-23 3:30 PM UTAHCANCHASER - 2015-02-23 3:54 PM What are the feeding recommendations? Going to see if I can get any stores close to me to start ordering. I have written before about our half pound rule. It goes like this. One half pound of Renew Gold per job the horse does. Living is a job. Growing is a job. Being ridden is a job. Weight gain is a job. High stress from extreme hauling can be a job. An example of this would be a three year old in training would be doing three jobs, living, growing and being ridden, and would eat 1 1/2 pounds per day. On the other hand, a mature horse that is being ridden would do two jobs, living , being ridden, and would eat one pound per day. If that same mature horse needed to add weight it would eat 1 1/2 pounds per day until it was at the desired weight, then that weight gain job would go away and so would the extra 1/2 pound. This is based on having good quality hay or pasture, good parasite control, and up to date dental care. The teeth issue is often the one overlooked, as we are relying on much more complete digestion of the roughage part of the diet in the hind gut, and it is important that the horse can comfortably chew that roughage as completely as possible before it swallows it. Also, if the hay is too poor, and additional feed is needed because of that, do not feed more than two pounds of any concentrate feed, including Renew Gold at any one feeding. Provide fresh water and salt. In general, additional Vit/Min supplementation is not necessary unless you have a regional shortage of a specific mineral (like selenium in the Pacific North West ). We typically do not recommend a daily probiotic, hoof conditioners, coat conditioners or other additional supplements, though if you are in love with any of that there is not a conflict with them. Follow this guideline and call if you have any questions. Simple as that.
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Location: North Dakota | scamper - 2015-02-23 2:34 PM What is the texture of it?
I have a old mare that is 33 yrs old, and when I changed her feed last year I put them on TC, but did look into RG and just couldn't decide. Is it great for these older ones too? She isn't able to eat any hay or much grass, due to teeth.
It is a soft, small pellet. Very easy to chew (and easy to soften even more with water if you need to). I tasted it... |
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| For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste. |
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| want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 8:14 AM For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.
I'm also wondering this as well. I've been feeding ADM's Healthy Glo for several months now to reduce their grain intake and have an extra fat supplement, but with everything going on with them I'm no longer feeding it. I currently don't feel that I have adequate quality forages to take mine completely off of grain and rely on only Renew Gold. But thought about trying it as a supplement and go from there on reducing their grain. |
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Location: Willows, CA | countrygirl2006 - 2015-02-24 9:11 AM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 8:14 AM For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.
I'm also wondering this as well. I've been feeding ADM's Healthy Glo for several months now to reduce their grain intake and have an extra fat supplement, but with everything going on with them I'm no longer feeding it. I currently don't feel that I have adequate quality forages to take mine completely off of grain and rely on only Renew Gold. But thought about trying it as a supplement and go from there on reducing their grain.
Renew Gold is formulated to increase digestive efficiency and get more complete use of your roughage. But, in poor hay, we can only get what is there. You would be surprised how much more you can get out of medium quality hay or pasture when you get the digestive system lined out. That said, if you need more it is easy to do. You can use some conventional feeds along with Renew Gold, but you would do so at a greatly reduced rate. Once again, do not feed more than two pounds of concentrate, including Renew Gold, at any one feeding. This overwhelms the horses ability to break down what starch and sugar is present in the small intestine, and in turn disrupts the efficiency of the hind gut. Doing this defeats the purpose of feeding Renew Gold in the first place. So, if your hay quality is not good, and you feel the need for more concentrate feed than just Renew Gold, go easy. I have seen a lot of people do this and end up cutting out the additional feed at a later date because the horse put on too much condition. I know feeding only Renew Gold does not seem like enough, but, for about 90% of our customers it is. This program gets the horse to digest it's diet the way nature intended it to, and when all the road blocks are out of the way that system is pretty amazing in it's efficiency. Sherry Cervi just posted her feeding program yesterday on Facebook. From an energy stand point, every horse gets Renew Gold and hay morning and night. She has no additional grain based feed in any of her horses diets at all. She does have access to good hay, but when she hauls there is a lot of demands on those horses and they carry perfect condition and energy with no additional feed. |
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| winwillows - 2015-02-24 10:58 AM
countrygirl2006 - 2015-02-24 9:11 AM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 8:14 AM For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.
I'm also wondering this as well. I've been feeding ADM's Healthy Glo for several months now to reduce their grain intake and have an extra fat supplement, but with everything going on with them I'm no longer feeding it. I currently don't feel that I have adequate quality forages to take mine completely off of grain and rely on only Renew Gold. But thought about trying it as a supplement and go from there on reducing their grain.
Renew Gold is formulated to increase digestive efficiency and get more complete use of your roughage. But, in poor hay, we can only get what is there. You would be surprised how much more you can get out of medium quality hay or pasture when you get the digestive system lined out. That said, if you need more it is easy to do. You can use some conventional feeds along with Renew Gold, but you would do so at a greatly reduced rate. Once again, do not feed more than two pounds of concentrate, including Renew Gold, at any one feeding. This overwhelms the horses ability to break down what starch and sugar is present in the small intestine, and in turn disrupts the efficiency of the hind gut. Doing this defeats the purpose of feeding Renew Gold in the first place. So, if your hay quality is not good, and you feel the need for more concentrate feed than just Renew Gold, go easy. I have seen a lot of people do this and end up cutting out the additional feed at a later date because the horse put on too much condition. I know feeding only Renew Gold does not seem like enough, but, for about 90% of our customers it is. This program gets the horse to digest it's diet the way nature intended it to, and when all the road blocks are out of the way that system is pretty amazing in it's efficiency. Sherry Cervi just posted her feeding program yesterday on Facebook. From an energy stand point, every horse gets Renew Gold and hay morning and night. She has no additional grain based feed in any of her horses diets at all. She does have access to good hay, but when she hauls there is a lot of demands on those horses and they carry perfect condition and energy with no additional feed.
Thank you. I do not have quality hay unfortunately. It's mediocre at best. They get turned out on a grass round bale most of the day and come in at night for a flake of decent alfalfa. They only get 2lbs of grain twice a day as well. Finding good quality hay has been really difficult for us this past year unfortunately. Maybe better this year I'm hoping. |
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Location: Texas | For those that asked... A one cup kitchen measuring cup weighs about 1/4 lb Renew Gold. So 2 cups = 1/2 lb Renew Gold. This kind of depends on what measuring cup you are using and how full you make it. Example... the plastic coffee cup I use to scoop feed holds 1/2 lb Renew Gold. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Having Renew Gold offer a measuring cup that measures out 1# of Renew Gold would be very helpful to their customers. I know when I was feeding MoorGlo years ago, I had a cup from MoorGlo so there wasn't any guessing as many of us don't have a scale nor do we want one.. |
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Location: Willows, CA | want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 12:02 PM
winwillows - 2015-02-24 10:58 AM
countrygirl2006 - 2015-02-24 9:11 AM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 8:14 AM For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.
I'm also wondering this as well. I've been feeding ADM's Healthy Glo for several months now to reduce their grain intake and have an extra fat supplement, but with everything going on with them I'm no longer feeding it. I currently don't feel that I have adequate quality forages to take mine completely off of grain and rely on only Renew Gold. But thought about trying it as a supplement and go from there on reducing their grain.
Renew Gold is formulated to increase digestive efficiency and get more complete use of your roughage. But, in poor hay, we can only get what is there. You would be surprised how much more you can get out of medium quality hay or pasture when you get the digestive system lined out. That said, if you need more it is easy to do. You can use some conventional feeds along with Renew Gold, but you would do so at a greatly reduced rate. Once again, do not feed more than two pounds of concentrate, including Renew Gold, at any one feeding. This overwhelms the horses ability to break down what starch and sugar is present in the small intestine, and in turn disrupts the efficiency of the hind gut. Doing this defeats the purpose of feeding Renew Gold in the first place. So, if your hay quality is not good, and you feel the need for more concentrate feed than just Renew Gold, go easy. I have seen a lot of people do this and end up cutting out the additional feed at a later date because the horse put on too much condition. I know feeding only Renew Gold does not seem like enough, but, for about 90% of our customers it is. This program gets the horse to digest it's diet the way nature intended it to, and when all the road blocks are out of the way that system is pretty amazing in it's efficiency. Sherry Cervi just posted her feeding program yesterday on Facebook. From an energy stand point, every horse gets Renew Gold and hay morning and night. She has no additional grain based feed in any of her horses diets at all. She does have access to good hay, but when she hauls there is a lot of demands on those horses and they carry perfect condition and energy with no additional feed.
Thank you. I do not have quality hay unfortunately. It's mediocre at best. They get turned out on a grass round bale most of the day and come in at night for a flake of decent alfalfa. They only get 2lbs of grain twice a day as well. Finding good quality hay has been really difficult for us this past year unfortunately. Maybe better this year I'm hoping.
You would be amazed how well a horse will do on mediocre hay if their teeth are in good shape to chew without irritating the inside of the cheek or side of the tongue. As long as they can comfortably crew they will break it up well. If they then have the hind gut fully functional they will get more out of that hay than you would think. Horses evolved to thrive in this way. If we give them a chance, and clear the disruptions that we cause by over feeding starches and sugars in too large a feeding, they can do very well without a lot of supplementation. Remember, there was no place in nature that they could stop at the supplement or grain pile. |
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| winwillows - 2015-02-24 1:01 PM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 12:02 PM
winwillows - 2015-02-24 10:58 AM
countrygirl2006 - 2015-02-24 9:11 AM
want2chase3 - 2015-02-24 8:14 AM For once , RG is readily available where I live. I've got 3 local stores that stock it. That being said, I just recently stopped feeding it because I switched everyone to Blue Bonnet Omega Force. However, I'm starting to wonder if RG would still be useful in my program and help my bottom line by having to feed less of the grain. They only get 4 lbs right now of the OF. plus forco and I'm starting 2 of the ones in heavy use on THE MM for joint support. Does anyone use RG as kinda of a supplemental fat source or extra calories? I'm also finishing up a flax supplement from horsetech. I like the idea of adding extra fat into their diets, and have always added it but I like the idea of a pelleted source , less waste.
I'm also wondering this as well. I've been feeding ADM's Healthy Glo for several months now to reduce their grain intake and have an extra fat supplement, but with everything going on with them I'm no longer feeding it. I currently don't feel that I have adequate quality forages to take mine completely off of grain and rely on only Renew Gold. But thought about trying it as a supplement and go from there on reducing their grain.
Renew Gold is formulated to increase digestive efficiency and get more complete use of your roughage. But, in poor hay, we can only get what is there. You would be surprised how much more you can get out of medium quality hay or pasture when you get the digestive system lined out. That said, if you need more it is easy to do. You can use some conventional feeds along with Renew Gold, but you would do so at a greatly reduced rate. Once again, do not feed more than two pounds of concentrate, including Renew Gold, at any one feeding. This overwhelms the horses ability to break down what starch and sugar is present in the small intestine, and in turn disrupts the efficiency of the hind gut. Doing this defeats the purpose of feeding Renew Gold in the first place. So, if your hay quality is not good, and you feel the need for more concentrate feed than just Renew Gold, go easy. I have seen a lot of people do this and end up cutting out the additional feed at a later date because the horse put on too much condition. I know feeding only Renew Gold does not seem like enough, but, for about 90% of our customers it is. This program gets the horse to digest it's diet the way nature intended it to, and when all the road blocks are out of the way that system is pretty amazing in it's efficiency. Sherry Cervi just posted her feeding program yesterday on Facebook. From an energy stand point, every horse gets Renew Gold and hay morning and night. She has no additional grain based feed in any of her horses diets at all. She does have access to good hay, but when she hauls there is a lot of demands on those horses and they carry perfect condition and energy with no additional feed.
Thank you. I do not have quality hay unfortunately. It's mediocre at best. They get turned out on a grass round bale most of the day and come in at night for a flake of decent alfalfa. They only get 2lbs of grain twice a day as well. Finding good quality hay has been really difficult for us this past year unfortunately. Maybe better this year I'm hoping.
You would be amazed how well a horse will do on mediocre hay if their teeth are in good shape to chew without irritating the inside of the cheek or side of the tongue. As long as they can comfortably crew they will break it up well. If they then have the hind gut fully functional they will get more out of that hay than you would think. Horses evolved to thrive in this way. If we give them a chance, and clear the disruptions that we cause by over feeding starches and sugars in too large a feeding, they can do very well without a lot of supplementation. Remember, there was no place in nature that they could stop at the supplement or grain pile.
Thank you. It's very easy to "over think " when it comes to feeding horses... like the majority, I want only the very best for my horses (that I can afford) I want them looking , feeling and performing at their very best. I'm pretty pleased how they look as of now. |
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Location: Texas | Would using a product such as Forco be duplicating the yeast culture that is already in the Renew Gold?
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | TBone - 2015-02-24 1:38 PM Would using a product such as Forco be duplicating the yeast culture that is already in the Renew Gold?
I've been feeding Renew Gold for about a year and the FORCO since 2006. The FORCO has been working well with the Renew Gold. I feel both work well together. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | I have a scale in my barn and a doggie size feed scoop that I purchased at Petco is 1/2 pound of RG rounded over. It works great! |
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Location: USA | What's the maximum pounds you can feed of RG at each feeding if you're feeding 2x/day? 1 pound? |
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| If you wanted to feed alfalfa pellets with the renew gold twice a day how much do you think should be fed of each at each feeding? |
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Location: Willows, CA | If you feed two pounds of alfalfa pellets morning and night it will slow the grass hay transit time through the hind gut and that grass hay will be better digested. |
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Location: mi | We have a chain store in our state like TSC called Family Farm and Home. I am not sure if they are a national chain or just in our area. But have you ever tried contacting them to see if they would stock the RG? I would love to feed the RG again but I am not going to go through the hassle anymore of trying to feed a feed that is not easily available I was left too many times short. That and the fact I was paying way more because they were special ordering it only for me. Would love to see it carried in all TSC or Family Farm stores. I would feed it again in a heart beat. |
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| TBone - 2015-02-24 12:45 PM
For those that asked... A one cup kitchen measuring cup weighs about 1/4 lb Renew Gold. So 2 cups = 1/2 lb Renew Gold. This kind of depends on what measuring cup you are using and how full you make it. Example... the plastic coffee cup I use to scoop feed holds 1/2 lb Renew Gold.
THANK YOU for this! I started a thread on this and didn't get any answers so I resorted to TRYING to weigh it with a bathroom scale! |
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Location: Texas | Griz - 2015-02-25 10:48 AM TBone - 2015-02-24 12:45 PM For those that asked... A one cup kitchen measuring cup weighs about 1/4 lb Renew Gold. So 2 cups = 1/2 lb Renew Gold. This kind of depends on what measuring cup you are using and how full you make it. Example... the plastic coffee cup I use to scoop feed holds 1/2 lb Renew Gold. THANK YOU for this! I started a thread on this and didn't get any answers so I resorted to TRYING to weigh it with a bathroom scale!
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | TBone - 2015-02-24 12:45 PM For those that asked... A one cup kitchen measuring cup weighs about 1/4 lb Renew Gold. So 2 cups = 1/2 lb Renew Gold. This kind of depends on what measuring cup you are using and how full you make it. Example... the plastic coffee cup I use to scoop feed holds 1/2 lb Renew Gold.
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | On a thread back in December 12/12/2014 Winwillows stated that 3 cups = 1 pound. Hope he will come on here and clarify. So on my way home I remembered I had picked up this cup a while back so I measured and 3 cups is 1 pound. This is renew gold cup.
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