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Location: In the Hills of Texas | She is a little hand and I love her horse but if the ground had been the same for the last 2 semi's, I doubt her time would have held up. Not taking anything away from her but I could just puke for all the girls that got screwed over by the ground last night and today. Absolutley no excuse for ground conditions like that in this day and age. I thought the BBR had control over the barrel racing...evidently not. Prayers that all the horses that slipped today are okay. |
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Location: oklahoma | Nevertooold - 2015-02-22 4:45 PM She is a little hand and I love her horse but if the ground had been the same for the last 2 semi's, I doubt her time would have held up. Not taking anything away from her but I could just puke for all the girls that got screwed over by the ground last night and today. Absolutley no excuse for ground conditions like that in this day and age. I thought the BBR had control over the barrel racing...evidently not. Prayers that all the horses that slipped today are okay.
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Location: Home on the Range | Nevertooold - 2015-02-22 5:45 PM She is a little hand and I love her horse but if the ground had been the same for the last 2 semi's, I doubt her time would have held up. Not taking anything away from her but I could just puke for all the girls that got screwed over by the ground last night and today. Absolutley no excuse for ground conditions like that in this day and age. I thought the BBR had control over the barrel racing...evidently not. Prayers that all the horses that slipped today are okay.
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| CurlyQ - 2015-02-22 4:52 PM Nevertooold - 2015-02-22 4:45 PM She is a little hand and I love her horse but if the ground had been the same for the last 2 semi's, I doubt her time would have held up. Not taking anything away from her but I could just puke for all the girls that got screwed over by the ground last night and today. Absolutley no excuse for ground conditions like that in this day and age. I thought the BBR had control over the barrel racing...evidently not. Prayers that all the horses that slipped today are okay.
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Location: oklahoma | sodapop - 2015-02-22 5:06 PM CurlyQ - 2015-02-22 4:52 PM Nevertooold - 2015-02-22 4:45 PM She is a little hand and I love her horse but if the ground had been the same for the last 2 semi's, I doubt her time would have held up. Not taking anything away from her but I could just puke for all the girls that got screwed over by the ground last night and today. Absolutley no excuse for ground conditions like that in this day and age. I thought the BBR had control over the barrel racing...evidently not. Prayers that all the horses that slipped today are okay.
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| downngo - 2015-02-22 5:01 PM Nevertooold - 2015-02-22 5:45 PM She is a little hand and I love her horse but if the ground had been the same for the last 2 semi's, I doubt her time would have held up. Not taking anything away from her but I could just puke for all the girls that got screwed over by the ground last night and today. Absolutley no excuse for ground conditions like that in this day and age. I thought the BBR had control over the barrel racing...evidently not. Prayers that all the horses that slipped today are okay.
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Location: Crowder, OK | I think Chani would have been at the top or not far from it regardless of ground conditions, that was an oustanding run in that arena and if you watch her video, flojo slipped on the third barrel & caused him to step off just a hair so they could have been faster! that horse is awesome! I ran against her momma and that horse when my old horse was still alive. hes been a smoker for years! thats a great family and Im excited to see them do well. that lil girl rides better than most youth ive seen. i was sick for Karsyn cause she had a smoking run as well. those two lil girls have huge futures ahead of them.
as far as the ground, it really sucked for the other two go rounds! no rodeo round is never the same, thats rodeo, but when you are talking about an event like this, it should have been better.......I just really hope no one left there w/crippled horses, it was starting to look like the nfr................................
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| Tinkerbell - 2015-02-22 5:44 PM I think Chani would have been at the top or not far from it regardless of ground conditions, that was an oustanding run in that arena and if you watch her video, flojo slipped on the third barrel & caused him to step off just a hair so they could have been faster! that horse is awesome! I ran against her momma and that horse when my old horse was still alive. hes been a smoker for years! thats a great family and Im excited to see them do well. that lil girl rides better than most youth ive seen. i was sick for Karsyn cause she had a smoking run as well. those two lil girls have huge futures ahead of them.
as far as the ground, it really sucked for the other two go rounds! no rodeo round is never the same, thats rodeo, but when you are talking about an event like this, it should have been better.......I just really hope no one left there w/crippled horses, it was starting to look like the nfr................................
There is no doubt Chayni would have been at the top or very close to the top. Like you said she wasn't as tight on that last turn, but still smoked a run. Nice horse and jockey! Her interviews were so genuine and sweet!
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | sodapop - 2015-02-22 5:48 PM Tinkerbell - 2015-02-22 5:44 PM I think Chani would have been at the top or not far from it regardless of ground conditions, that was an oustanding run in that arena and if you watch her video, flojo slipped on the third barrel & caused him to step off just a hair so they could have been faster! that horse is awesome! I ran against her momma and that horse when my old horse was still alive. hes been a smoker for years! thats a great family and Im excited to see them do well. that lil girl rides better than most youth ive seen. i was sick for Karsyn cause she had a smoking run as well. those two lil girls have huge futures ahead of them.
as far as the ground, it really sucked for the other two go rounds! no rodeo round is never the same, thats rodeo, but when you are talking about an event like this, it should have been better.......I just really hope no one left there w/crippled horses, it was starting to look like the nfr................................
There is no doubt Chayni would have been at the top or very close to the top. Like you said she wasn't as tight on that last turn, but still smoked a run. Nice horse and jockey! Her interviews were so genuine and sweet!
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Location: oklahoma | Nevertooold - 2015-02-22 6:07 PM sodapop - 2015-02-22 5:48 PM Tinkerbell - 2015-02-22 5:44 PM I think Chani would have been at the top or not far from it regardless of ground conditions, that was an oustanding run in that arena and if you watch her video, flojo slipped on the third barrel & caused him to step off just a hair so they could have been faster! that horse is awesome! I ran against her momma and that horse when my old horse was still alive. hes been a smoker for years! thats a great family and Im excited to see them do well. that lil girl rides better than most youth ive seen. i was sick for Karsyn cause she had a smoking run as well. those two lil girls have huge futures ahead of them.
as far as the ground, it really sucked for the other two go rounds! no rodeo round is never the same, thats rodeo, but when you are talking about an event like this, it should have been better.......I just really hope no one left there w/crippled horses, it was starting to look like the nfr................................
There is no doubt Chayni would have been at the top or very close to the top. Like you said she wasn't as tight on that last turn, but still smoked a run. Nice horse and jockey! Her interviews were so genuine and sweet!
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Location: Kansas | Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members. |
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | I think it's fine if kids are allowed in the The American. This event is all about being able to enter and run and make it on your own merits regardless of age, gender, experience or amateur/professional status. May the fastest team win!
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members.
And then they would get told they shouldn't enter the youth because they're too good. Open to all comers is just that. Weight is a factor, but there are many others. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Calangelo - 2015-02-22 7:27 PM I think it's fine if kids are allowed in the The American. This event is all about being able to enter and run and make it on your own merits regardless of age, gender, experience or amateur/professional status. May the fastest team win!
I agree!! This is NOT the WPRA and one of the biggest draws and what sets the American apart is that ANYBODY, no matter who you are or where you come from regardless of age or sex or how much money you have won can compete! |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members.
Oh my aching ass are you serious? If your so worried about keeping it even then you need to do divisionals. This is the American. Its concept was to find the underdogs and let them run with the big dogs. |
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| Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM
Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members.
But this is not the WPRA or The GRA. The America is run under BBR rules. Which everyone that entered knew when they signed up. Under their rules it is open to all regardless of age, weight, sex, or anything else. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | CYA Ranch - 2015-02-22 7:50 PM Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members. Oh my aching ass are you serious? If your so worried about keeping it even then you need to do divisionals. This is the American. Its concept was to find the underdogs and let them run with the big dogs.
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I never thought weight was as much of an issue with running against a kid as their lack of fear.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | CYA Ranch - 2015-02-22 7:50 PM Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members. Oh my aching ass are you serious? If your so worried about keeping it even then you need to do divisionals. This is the American. Its concept was to find the underdogs and let them run with the big dogs.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | NJJ - 2015-02-22 8:18 PM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-22 7:50 PM Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members. Oh my aching ass are you serious? If your so worried about keeping it even then you need to do divisionals. This is the American. Its concept was to find the underdogs and let them run with the big dogs.
Exactly. I can't believe people go out and look for things to ***** about. Get a life. |
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| Tinkerbell - 2015-02-22 5:44 PM
I think Chani would have been at the top or not far from it regardless of ground conditions, that was an oustanding run in that arena and if you watch her video, flojo slipped on the third barrel & caused him to step off just a hair so they could have been faster! that horse is awesome! I ran against her momma and that horse when my old horse was still alive. hes been a smoker for years! thats a great family and Im excited to see them do well. that lil girl rides better than most youth ive seen. i was sick for Karsyn cause she had a smoking run as well. those two lil girls have huge futures ahead of them.
as far as the ground, it really sucked for the other two go rounds! no rodeo round is never the same, thats rodeo, but when you are talking about an event like this, it should have been better.......I just really hope no one left there w/crippled horses, it was starting to look like the nfr................................
Chayni ran on the same ground that everyone else ran on.
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Tinkerbell - 2015-02-22 5:44 PM
I think Chani would have been at the top or not far from it regardless of ground conditions, that was an oustanding run in that arena and if you watch her video, flojo slipped on the third barrel & caused him to step off just a hair so they could have been faster! that horse is awesome! I ran against her momma and that horse when my old horse was still alive. hes been a smoker for years! thats a great family and Im excited to see them do well. that lil girl rides better than most youth ive seen. i was sick for Karsyn cause she had a smoking run as well. those two lil girls have huge futures ahead of them.
as far as the ground, it really sucked for the other two go rounds! no rodeo round is never the same, thats rodeo, but when you are talking about an event like this, it should have been better.......I just really hope no one left there w/crippled horses, it was starting to look like the nfr................................
Chayni ran on the same ground that everyone else ran on.
This is rodeo not a 4D barrel race. The ground is crappy at rodeos, period. I agree with what you said, just making a statement. I think that is why Latricia Duke prefers futurities over rodeos.
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| sodapop - 2015-02-22 10:06 PM
They had high school exemptions in other events. I'm sure most of those kids were under 18.
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sodapop - 2015-02-22 10:06 PM
They had high school exemptions in other events. I'm sure most of those kids were under 18.
It's my understanding they had exemptions for the HS kids in the timed events only. Not sure though.
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| So what about the people who are over weight?? I guess they should have an argument over all of us that are over age 18, 5 ft tall & weigh 110 pds. Chayni may not weigh as much as an adult but that is her advantage. The women & men have the advantage of experience & skill, etc. As I recall back when I was running rodeos (years ago), the jr division was always 12 & under. Nobody complained then, when we as 13 year olds were made to compete with women that were so much more experienced & skilled. Yes, I had an awesome horse that could compete and could out run top notch horses but at the age of 13, I was not the level, experienced & skilled rider as my adult competitors. Therefore, I got out ran quite a bit because of the lack of experienc & not being able to handle pressure sitiuations as well. So, I just feel like the weight issue is a lame excuse. What is wrong with our world when someone can't find the Happiness in a 9 year old lil girl accomplishing something as BIG as this. GO CHAYNI!!!!!!!
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| azsun - 2015-02-22 10:43 PM
sodapop - 2015-02-22 10:06 PM
They had high school exemptions in other events. I'm sure most of those kids were under 18.
It's my understanding they had exemptions for the HS kids in the timed events only. Not sure though.
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| CYA Ranch - 2015-02-22 7:50 PM
Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members.
Oh my aching ass are you serious? If your so worried about keeping it even then you need to do divisionals. This is the American. Its concept was to find the underdogs and let them run with the big dogs.
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| teeally - 2015-02-22 9:51 PM
I'll probably get slammed but........most professional sports are 18 and over...I'm not taking anything away but kids don't even have a concept of what is happening..jmo:)
If we are comparing professional sports to rodeos being"professional" It's like comparing apples and oranges. How many people are making millions just to show up to a rodeo like people are for football, basketball and baseball? How many don't need side jobs to continue fulfilling their dream of going down the road?? I could go on and on....
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| Tatum2 - 2015-02-23 8:21 AM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-22 7:50 PM Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members. Oh my aching ass are you serious? If your so worried about keeping it even then you need to do divisionals. This is the American. Its concept was to find the underdogs and let them run with the big dogs. Yes! ^^^^ Thank-YOU!!!!!
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Location: In a happy place | CYA Ranch - 2015-02-22 7:50 PM Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members. Oh my aching ass are you serious? If your so worried about keeping it even then you need to do divisionals. This is the American. Its concept was to find the underdogs and let them run with the big dogs.
Thank you CYA! So well said. The whole purpose of The American was to allow anyone to enter that wanted to so they could compete against the big dogs. If someone doesn't want to run against a kid then don't pay the big entry fees and stay home. I for one want to sit back and enjoy this young lady make her run. She is certainly a hand. |
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Location: North Dakota | She is a great rider on a fantastic horse that is for sure! So happy for her and her family. She is just too cute.
How many out of each perf made it into the top 10? I believe most were in Friday night's perf, right? Anyone of those top 30 could have been in the top 10 any given day. The ground really did play a factor and that is exactly what I was worried about happening having the 30 spread out over 3 days, but that is rodeo and the luck of the draw I guess. Next Sunday should be some fantastic watching!
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Location: Randolph, Utah | Yes weight might be a factor BUT I think how a person rides effects the times more than weight.
My opinion, for what it's worth, a small person who flops all over and can't ride very well is going to get outran by a bigger person who rides well.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | JcNhEmI - 2015-02-23 8:54 AM Yes weight might be a factor BUT I think how a person rides effects the times more than weight. My opinion, for what it's worth, a small person who flops all over and can't ride very well is going to get outran by a bigger person who rides well. That little girl rode that horse awesome and was never in his way, and her interview made me an even bigger fan then the run did. She was so cute and not bratty at all!
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I agree...In my pro rodeo days in the 80's and early 90's, I ran against little jockeys like Rachael Myllymaki and Raylee Walter...they were awesome little riders, mounted on great horses, and they were a force to be reckoned with....fearless...no overthinking...no driving home after the rodeo...getting to sleep and ready to go again the next day. Chani reminds me of these girls, and wish her the best! |
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Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members.
Oh my aching ass are you serious? If your so worried about keeping it even then you need to do divisionals. This is the American. Its concept was to find the underdogs and let them run with the big dogs.
Yes! ^^^^ Thank-YOU!!!!!
I only weigh three times what this kid weighs could this be a reason I am not winning the 1D? I keep looking for another excuse. Also play days have age groups.
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Location: The edge of no where | Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members.
You have got to be flippin kidding me! This kind of whiny attitude is one of the things I really dislike. It's an OPEN barrel race! Just put your $$$ up and run. After going to the WPRA finals thank goodness they aren't involved. That association is nothing more than a bunch of grouchy old women that are stuck in the past.
I was very disappointed in the ground, I expected much better from the BBR. Can we not just enjoy an open race for what it is? There are so many factors in barrel racing, weight is just one of them. Most women, if they have the discipline can make 110-130.....many just don't want to sacrifice the things needed to get there. Anyone that wants it that bad will figure out a way to make it happen....and the whiners are just going to whine and say life isn't fair. It's not fair, a fair is where you show cows.
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Location: kansas | Frodo - 2015-02-22 7:09 PM Sorry to not be on the same team, but weight is a HUGE factor in barrel racing as in horse racing. If they're going to let children enter, then they should have a junior division. Isn't this why the WPRA, then the GRA, decided to make an age limit for members.
Are you freaking kidding me?!?!?!!? This irritates the ever living sh*t out of me when people say this crap! I heard the same things growing up; 'oh she just weighs less, oh her horse is automatic, oh she will never be sucessful when she can't run him anymore, oh he is too old he should be retired'
YES, weight can affect a time, what what effects the time more the RIDER RIDING HER HORSE! There are 1D horses every day getting turned into 2,3,4D horses because of who is competing on them! This girl can ride, and it is people like you that she will remember the rest of her life and keep her motivated! Because one of these days she will grow up, and she will use people like you for motivation because you only thought she was kicking your butt because of her weight! Not because she can ride her horse, not because she does just enough, or heck just stays out of his way enough that TOGETHER THEY CAN WIN!
Also! Before you start complaing that weight matters, you better be in the gym every day and counting your calories! Because if a little girl can't compete because of her weight then screw the age divisions, let's have WEIGHT divisions!
Sorry if this comes off harsh but things like this burn my a**, because people can't handle that a little kid is beating them! Heck if this wasn't a family horse, people would be on here saying that her parents bought her way to the top! Get over yourself and let this little girl SHINE! |
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| I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s.
As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:58 AM Anyone know how FloJo is bred?
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| stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw.
Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races.
The ground at Mesquite last year for the semi-finals was good for Mesquite, I thought. And then the ground for the finals was outstanding. This weekend's conditions were ridiculous. There is no excuse for an event of this caliber to have trashy ground. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:06 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:58 AM Anyone know how FloJo is bred? His registered name is Dat Flowing Bunny, or something like that.
http://www.barrelracingreport.com/issues/8_13_13_BarrelRacingReport_HighRes.pdf
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races.
I agree, it is one thing to be out of the running because you hit or rider error but to have so many lose their opportunity because of the ground is just a shame. |
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Location: NE Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races.
Amen. I'm all for the kiddos and them men competing and wish all of the finalists much luck and safe trips. Chayni is a doll and that is one cool horse without a doubt! The ground conditions were inexcuseable Sunday night. The end. |
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| Makes me so mad when people belittle the kids when they are getting beat by them. I was once that kid that came in and kicked some butt in the 1D. My horse was fantastic and we just clicked and we had an awesome go up through hs. Some people just can't stand being beaten by the young kids. It's just terrible the things what you hear when you are that little when you should be on top of the world but truth is everyone is trying to bring you down. Especially the adults. |
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| Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:19 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races.
My point is just that those horses that do standup on the crappy ground have even more of my respect. Kinda like the NFR, that big sorrel that ran at the finals never slipped. Not saying the ground didnt SUCK but I think its pretty impressive when certain horses seem to still handle it in stride. |
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Location: OH | My 2 cents worth, which means nothing is that the little girl can ride and stayed centered and let the horse do the job he is trained for. Big Picture---she is a Superstar, this thing could be GREAT for barrel racing as a whole. When has anything about barrel racing or rodeo in general EVER made ESPN. This could be a great thing for our sport that every one of us love or we wouldn't be on here talking about it all the time. |
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People keep saying oh well that's rodeo, the ground is never the same... maybe at an outdoor rodeo where you can't control the weather. There are no excuses for not having consistant & safe ground in an indoor climate controlled arena! |
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Location: NE Texas | stayceem - 2015-02-23 10:37 AM Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:19 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. My point is just that those horses that do standup on the crappy ground have even more of my respect. Kinda like the NFR, that big sorrel that ran at the finals never slipped. Not saying the ground didnt SUCK but I think its pretty impressive when certain horses seem to still handle it in stride.
I'm one of those people who learned this lesson the hard way. I had a very nice horse when I was 18 years old. He was a 1D horse at the big barrel races and I had started rodeoing a bit on him. He had never been exposed to rodeo ground and neither had I, therefore neither of us knew any better than to go for broke. There were several people who slipped and fell before me, but I sent him in there for broke at one of the biggest PRCA rodeos in the southeastern circuit and he didn't hadnle it. Crushed my leg from the knee down. I know have a metal plate and 12 pins in that leg and a scar that runs from above my knee to below my ankle. One run after me another girl ran and her horse broad sided and stepped right in the middle of her chest. They cancelled the barrel race after that.
If an event is going to be marketed as a BBR event, then it needs to have BBR ground so that we're not risking the lives of these outstanding horses and their jockeys, whether they be men, women, or children. These are once in a lifetime horses and they need to be provided with the safest and most even footing possible, then let the chips fall where they may. There is just no excuse for bad ground in a climate controlled colisem, period.
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM
rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races.
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| Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:59 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 10:37 AM Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:19 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. My point is just that those horses that do standup on the crappy ground have even more of my respect. Kinda like the NFR, that big sorrel that ran at the finals never slipped. Not saying the ground didnt SUCK but I think its pretty impressive when certain horses seem to still handle it in stride.
I'm one of those people who learned this lesson the hard way. I had a very nice horse when I was 18 years old. He was a 1D horse at the big barrel races and I had started rodeoing a bit on him. He had never been exposed to rodeo ground and neither had I, therefore neither of us knew any better than to go for broke. There were several people who slipped and fell before me, but I sent him in there for broke at one of the biggest PRCA rodeos in the southeastern circuit and he didn't hadnle it. Crushed my leg from the knee down. I know have a metal plate and 12 pins in that leg and a scar that runs from above my knee to below my ankle. One run after me another girl ran and her horse broad sided and stepped right in the middle of her chest. They cancelled the barrel race after that.
If an event is going to be marketed as a BBR event, then it needs to have BBR ground so that we're not risking the lives of these outstanding horses and their jockeys, whether they be men, women, or children. These are once in a lifetime horses and they need to be provided with the safest and most even footing possible, then let the chips fall where they may. There is just no excuse for bad ground in a climate controlled colisem, period.
OOOUUCH Herbie! Hopefully it doesnt cause you any dicomfort these days. |
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Location: Where the Jasmine & Magnolia Grow | Tatum2 - 2015-02-23 11:21 AM Makes me so mad when people belittle the kids when they are getting beat by them. I was once that kid that came in and kicked some butt in the 1D. My horse was fantastic and we just clicked and we had an awesome go up through hs. Some people just can't stand being beaten by the young kids. It's just terrible the things what you hear when you are that little when you should be on top of the world but truth is everyone is trying to bring you down. Especially the adults.
Been there! Many years ago (my WPRA Card is 3 digits) I will always remember the very 1st Rodeo I entered & the difference in my reception from the older more experienced barrel racers when I was paying my entry fee & then the cold shoulder when I was collecting my check. And to the person that commented you will always remember and feed off it, that's exactly what I did. Won enough $ in 6 weeks to buy my card. But it got down right evil at that point. Asked one of the women that acted like she was my friend, should I buy my card? & she said No, you should buy another permit so you can run wherever you want because once you buy your WPRA card you can't. Didn't realize about the "Rookie" award & just went ahead & bought another permit. Long story short, I filled that 2nd Permit before it even came to me in the mail. Bought my card and eventually was told that the "click" was wanting their friend to win the Circuit Rookie of the Year title. Karma is a b...h and although buying that 2nd permit almost cost me the Rookie title, since the other girl had a good lead on me from the get go, I won it by a mere $125. Also ended up winning the Permit Championship, made the Circuit Finals & placed 2nd in a go and only a downed barrel cost me the Average win. The many valuable lessons I learned in my "Rookie" year, Priceless! |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | How many of the 30 to make it to the semi finals were under say 16?
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Location: The edge of no where | Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:59 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 10:37 AM Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:19 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. My point is just that those horses that do standup on the crappy ground have even more of my respect. Kinda like the NFR, that big sorrel that ran at the finals never slipped. Not saying the ground didnt SUCK but I think its pretty impressive when certain horses seem to still handle it in stride.
I'm one of those people who learned this lesson the hard way. I had a very nice horse when I was 18 years old. He was a 1D horse at the big barrel races and I had started rodeoing a bit on him. He had never been exposed to rodeo ground and neither had I, therefore neither of us knew any better than to go for broke. There were several people who slipped and fell before me, but I sent him in there for broke at one of the biggest PRCA rodeos in the southeastern circuit and he didn't hadnle it. Crushed my leg from the knee down. I know have a metal plate and 12 pins in that leg and a scar that runs from above my knee to below my ankle. One run after me another girl ran and her horse broad sided and stepped right in the middle of her chest. They cancelled the barrel race after that.
If an event is going to be marketed as a BBR event, then it needs to have BBR ground so that we're not risking the lives of these outstanding horses and their jockeys, whether they be men, women, or children. These are once in a lifetime horses and they need to be provided with the safest and most even footing possible, then let the chips fall where they may. There is just no excuse for bad ground in a climate controlled colisem, period.
You put this much better than I would've......well said.
'Rodeo ground' should not have been a factor at an event like this.period.end.of.story.
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| Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:59 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 10:37 AM Herbie - 2015-02-23 10:19 AM Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 10:12 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 10:08 AM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:57 AM I am so excited for Chayni and all the other youth that made it. I know there are 3 under 18, one from MN who's been working hard! Weight is and isnt a factor, if you cant ride the horse then you could weight 5 pounds and not even break the 14s. As far as ground though, the announcer said it too. I didnt see last nights which I heard was bad but the night before horses were slipping. However, there were other horses that didnt miss a beat. Thats rodeo, you have those horses who standup on any type of ground and its partly the luck of the draw. Yes, but the barrel racers qualified through BBR races not rodeo and that is why they drug the ground for the barrels which is not done at rodeos. Ground was not suppose to be "rodeo" ground but BBR barrel race ground and as even as can be expected over 3 nights- same as 3 day barrel races. My point is just that those horses that do standup on the crappy ground have even more of my respect. Kinda like the NFR, that big sorrel that ran at the finals never slipped. Not saying the ground didnt SUCK but I think its pretty impressive when certain horses seem to still handle it in stride.
I'm one of those people who learned this lesson the hard way. I had a very nice horse when I was 18 years old. He was a 1D horse at the big barrel races and I had started rodeoing a bit on him. He had never been exposed to rodeo ground and neither had I, therefore neither of us knew any better than to go for broke. There were several people who slipped and fell before me, but I sent him in there for broke at one of the biggest PRCA rodeos in the southeastern circuit and he didn't hadnle it. Crushed my leg from the knee down. I know have a metal plate and 12 pins in that leg and a scar that runs from above my knee to below my ankle. One run after me another girl ran and her horse broad sided and stepped right in the middle of her chest. They cancelled the barrel race after that.
If an event is going to be marketed as a BBR event, then it needs to have BBR ground so that we're not risking the lives of these outstanding horses and their jockeys, whether they be men, women, or children. These are once in a lifetime horses and they need to be provided with the safest and most even footing possible, then let the chips fall where they may. There is just no excuse for bad ground in a climate controlled colisem, period.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | ksjackofalltrades - 2015-02-23 11:42 AM The ground at the ATT center for the finals last year was not outstanding. There were several horses that didn't like it all.
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| Kudos to Chayni! She did an awesome job. End of story. I can only wish my daughter will be able to ride like her when she's 9!
On the topic of the ground, I'm not justifying the bad ground, I think they could have done better but, I am wondering if the cowboys in the timed events and contractors had anything to do with it. Good ground for barrel horses is not good ground for rope horses, bucking horse and especially not bulls. I didn't like to buck my horses on the ground I liked to run in at all. It was too deep and I was afraid of them pulling something. I know bull owners don't like "deep" ground either. Because of the way bulls buck, ground that is more suited to barrel racing can cause stifel and shoulder injuries. Team ropers complain if the ground is to deep because their horses have to work extra hard at pulling cattle. The calves and steers have to work harder too. Coming from a contractor and barrel racer's point of view I can see the ground as a catch-22!
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | Three 4 Luck - 2015-02-23 12:15 PM ksjackofalltrades - 2015-02-23 11:42 AM The ground at the ATT center for the finals last year was not outstanding. There were several horses that didn't like it all. Not liking it is not the same as trashy. I don't remember anyone slipping or falling--am I not remembering right?
There weren't very many of them that worked that good on it. It was grabby ground. Lot of barrels hit. |
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Location: North Dakota | cyount2009 - 2015-02-23 12:16 PM Kudos to Chayni! She did an awesome job. End of story. I can only wish my daughter will be able to ride like her when she's 9! On the topic of the ground, I'm not justifying the bad ground, I think they could have done better but, I am wondering if the cowboys in the timed events and contractors had anything to do with it. Good ground for barrel horses is not good ground for rope horses, bucking horse and especially not bulls. I didn't like to buck my horses on the ground I liked to run in at all. It was too deep and I was afraid of them pulling something. I know bull owners don't like "deep" ground either. Because of the way bulls buck, ground that is more suited to barrel racing can cause stifel and shoulder injuries. Team ropers complain if the ground is to deep because their horses have to work extra hard at pulling cattle. The calves and steers have to work harder too. Coming from a contractor and barrel racer's point of view I can see the ground as a catch-22!
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| my husband said the same exact thing!!!! same way at any rodeo you go to and the horses that rodeo for a living were not having near the difficulties that the "barrel" horses were!! |
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| "Putting on a better show" I believe it, but that just makes me laugh. What? So the bulls can buck harder so only one or two of them ride? Don't see how that gets favored over the SAFETY of barrel racers and valuable horses, but hey, at least it's a "good show" SMH. |
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| SpaceCowboy - 2015-02-23 12:52 PM
"Putting on a better show" I believe it, but that just makes me laugh. What? So the bulls can buck harder so only one or two of them ride? Don't see how that gets favored over the SAFETY of barrel racers and valuable horses, but hey, at least it's a "good show" SMH.
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Location: North Dakota | rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first.
Do you understand the level of horses and riders that girl had to beat to get to that level? She obviously was not just strapped on at some playday. She beat out some of the best of the best! |
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| rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM
The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first.
I think the 14 year old has been winning all over the place and she had to qualify to get there. |
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| Just Bring It - 2015-02-23 2:17 PM
rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first.
Do you understand the level of horses and riders that girl had to beat to get to that level? She obviously was not just strapped on at some playday. She beat out some of the best of the best!
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Location: The edge of no where | streakysox - 2015-02-23 2:20 PM Just Bring It - 2015-02-23 2:17 PM rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first. Do you understand the level of horses and riders that girl had to beat to get to that level? She obviously was not just strapped on at some playday. She beat out some of the best of the best! Correct
Buy enough tough horses, keep them at the trainers, haul them everywhere.....and you can make it happen.
I'm just not a fan of those tactics...I'm all for loving to watch kids win that can really ride one.
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| smak - 2015-02-23 12:44 PM
my husband said the same exact thing!!!! same way at any rodeo you go to and the horses that rodeo for a living were not having near the difficulties that the "barrel" horses were!!
I like the way you said that....I had to laugh...
Mine are all barrel horses
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| I have heard over and over and over the arena must be shallow for the bucking stock and that is why the ground is so bad for the barrel racers. I just want to know how many barrel racers have been to a show and the ground change from one horse to another? In the area I live in the winter shows used to be run by one family and their daughter won ever weekend so of course at the end of the year she won the saddle. Ever show she managed to run right after a drag and you could see the ground be worked up differently for that one rider. If you had someone who was a tough contender they would always be last on the drag or run in real deep dirt. My point is why can't the ground be worked for the barrels then come back and pack it for the bulls. It would only take about 20 mins to water and pack and your clowns could entertain during that time. Also the bulls never get very deep into the arena so why not set the barrel pattern up deeper into the arena away from the bull area. |
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Location: Online | MS2011 - 2015-02-23 1:24 PM streakysox - 2015-02-23 2:20 PM Just Bring It - 2015-02-23 2:17 PM rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first. Do you understand the level of horses and riders that girl had to beat to get to that level? She obviously was not just strapped on at some playday. She beat out some of the best of the best! Correct
I'm just not a fan of those tactics...I'm all for loving to watch kids win that can really ride one.
Exactly ^^^
I don't care how much they've won, or what horses they ride, that does not make them professional horsemen/women. And she was too strapped on with one of those Martha Josey seat belt things. I would rather watch little ones like Chani who can stay in time and ride her horse. |
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| cyount2009 - 2015-02-23 12:16 PM
Kudos to Chayni! She did an awesome job. End of story. I can only wish my daughter will be able to ride like her when she's 9!
On the topic of the ground, I'm not justifying the bad ground, I think they could have done better but, I am wondering if the cowboys in the timed events and contractors had anything to do with it. Good ground for barrel horses is not good ground for rope horses, bucking horse and especially not bulls. I didn't like to buck my horses on the ground I liked to run in at all. It was too deep and I was afraid of them pulling something. I know bull owners don't like "deep" ground either. Because of the way bulls buck, ground that is more suited to barrel racing can cause stifel and shoulder injuries. Team ropers complain if the ground is to deep because their horses have to work extra hard at pulling cattle. The calves and steers have to work harder too. Coming from a contractor and barrel racer's point of view I can see the ground as a catch-22!
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| MS2011 - 2015-02-23 2:24 PM
streakysox - 2015-02-23 2:20 PM Just Bring It - 2015-02-23 2:17 PM rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first. Do you understand the level of horses and riders that girl had to beat to get to that level? She obviously was not just strapped on at some playday. She beat out some of the best of the best! Correct
I'm just not a fan of those tactics...I'm all for loving to watch kids win that can really ride one.
That is exact!y what I do. Don't knock it till you have tried it. Only difference is that I am old. It works great. |
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| rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM
The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first.
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Location: The edge of no where | CYA Ranch - 2015-02-23 2:33 PM rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first. The gal you were referring to also had a brother that ran in the slack, he also was strapped in. They were trained by a well known trainer that I have no respect for and needs to teach these kids a little horsemanship before putting them on these high powered horses. Everyone can flame me too.
He was the one that ripped his horses face off on the way home and again in the ally after hitting barrels. Not much fun to watch. |
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| jlm65 - 2015-02-23 2:46 PM
I caught a glimpse of Chayni on ESPN when I was at lunch today at a local sports bar...
She is pretty classy for a little kid!!! Like one commentator said you ha e to appreciate the honesty of a child. |
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| I witnessed Chayni make a smart run at an American qualifier. She is a great hand that pushes, but doesn't over ride her horse.
Perhaps they call it "The American" because so many individuals can make a go at it. It isn't restricted. It is open to all!
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| luckyjo - 2015-02-23 2:57 PM
I witnessed Chayni make a smart run at an American qualifier. She is a great hand that pushes, but doesn't over ride her horse.
Perhaps they call it "The American" because so many individuals can make a go at it. It isn't restricted. It is open to all!
Good luck to all this weekend!
This is why I started this thread...take a look at how this kid rides. Wherever she learned to ride, she learned correctly. I think we all need to find out and attend a clinic put on by that person. Her parents have her perfectly mounted too. That sucker works and some gas helps too. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | MS2011 - 2015-02-23 2:53 PM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-23 2:33 PM rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first. The gal you were referring to also had a brother that ran in the slack, he also was strapped in. They were trained by a well known trainer that I have no respect for and needs to teach these kids a little horsemanship before putting them on these high powered horses. Everyone can flame me too.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | streakysox - 2015-02-23 3:05 PM luckyjo - 2015-02-23 2:57 PM I witnessed Chayni make a smart run at an American qualifier. She is a great hand that pushes, but doesn't over ride her horse. Perhaps they call it "The American" because so many individuals can make a go at it. It isn't restricted. It is open to all! Good luck to all this weekend! This is why I started this thread...take a look at how this kid rides. Wherever she learned to ride, she learned correctly. I think we all need to find out and attend a clinic put on by that person. Her parents have her perfectly mounted too. That sucker works and some gas helps too.
Her parents are good hands.
Some parents don't seem to understand that because you win doesn't mean you can ride and have good riding skills.
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Why not just say who it is? Everyone knows who you are talking about?
When you put a name on it, the thread gets frozen. It's better to let people quietly figure it out. Gotta leave room for deniability. Lol |
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Location: The edge of no where | stayceem - 2015-02-23 4:22 PM OT - who was commentating? I was able to watch the runs on youtube but I never heard the introduction to who the fellow barrel racer was?
Samatha Lyne
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Location: Where I am happiest | Call it from the dark side, whatever and I'm sure I'll get flamed but just sharing what has been on my mind. . BUT. Usually, especially with a indoor arena, the ground is questionable/bad at first and by the 3rd or 4th day they have it figured out. NOT good ground the first day ( slack) the second day ( the first perf) to only get worse by the 2nd and 3rd perf? Sad when 6 of the top 10 all come from the first perf and the tuffest perf, the last perf has the worst ground. Things that make you go hhhmmm. Maybe, for marketing reasons, they wanted Chayni to advance in the #1 spot because it IS quite the story. She would have advanced, but advancing in the #1 spot is so much more marketable. Even ESPN thinks so. |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | stayceem - 2015-02-23 3:22 PM OT - who was commentating? I was able to watch the runs on youtube but I never heard the introduction to who the fellow barrel racer was?
First 2 rounds it was Samantha Lyne, 3rd round was Samantha and Shada Brazil. |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-02-23 4:27 PM
Call it from the dark side, whatever and I'm sure I'll get flamed but just sharing what has been on my mind. . BUT. Usually, especially with a indoor arena, the ground is questionable/bad at first and by the 3rd or 4th day they have it figured out. NOT good ground the first day ( slack) the second day ( the first perf) to only get worse by the 2nd and 3rd perf? Sad when 6 of the top 10 all come from the first perf and the tuffest perf, the last perf has the worst ground. Things that make you go hhhmmm. Maybe, for marketing reasons, they wanted Chayni to advance in the #1 spot because it IS quite the story. She would have advanced, but advancing in the #1 spot is so much more marketable. Even ESPN thinks so.
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Location: Where I am happiest | stayceem - 2015-02-23 4:29 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-02-23 4:27 PM Call it from the dark side, whatever and I'm sure I'll get flamed but just sharing what has been on my mind. . BUT. Usually, especially with a indoor arena, the ground is questionable/bad at first and by the 3rd or 4th day they have it figured out. NOT good ground the first day ( slack) the second day ( the first perf) to only get worse by the 2nd and 3rd perf? Sad when 6 of the top 10 all come from the first perf and the tuffest perf, the last perf has the worst ground. Things that make you go hhhmmm. Maybe, for marketing reasons, they wanted Chayni to advance in the #1 spot because it IS quite the story. She would have advanced, but advancing in the #1 spot is so much more marketable. Even ESPN thinks so. Oh Good Grief... And I am sure they rigged her time too. Because thats the only way they could ensure that happens.
Nooooooooooooo. But when she is sitting where she was, it is pretty easy to just not do the ground right to try to help her, stay in the #1 spot. Dont even try to tell me it doesnt happen because it does, seen it over and over again. Especially when the stock contrators daughter is running. Wonderful ground her perf. Crappy ground all the other perfs. |
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Location: The edge of no where | Ground was no bueno for slack. We went and watch.... it started out sorta ok, went to crap...and then got better again. There was a big barrel race there the Sunday before 370ish, and I thought the ground was great when I ran. I just don't think the ground was very well prepped...but Northside is notorious for getting slick & hard, it wasn't anything new. |
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| Spin Doctor - 2015-02-23 5:35 PM Just curious...how many of you have tried to keep ground even for all perfs? I know I try my best but it is a struggle. It is never the same and I have been doing for >10 years. I don't rodeo but have been to plenty of 3 and 4 day races with 600 plus runs a day and ground has been pretty even from the first run to 1800th run. If extra effort is required for a race of this magnitude and an opportunity to run for htis kind of $$ then do what it takes- I am sure it can be done.
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Location: Online | RUKIDDING? - 2015-02-23 1:49 PM rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first. Jealous much? Geez...
Wow, you figured me out. I'm just so jealous because I have an opinion about the tactics of some barrel racers. Dang, my cover is blown. (((facepalm))) |
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Location: Texas | Well I for one will say Chayni and Flo Jo are a perfect match. You can look on youtube, she knows how to ride, there's video's of her doing well on other horses.
Not sure how or why this turned into a bashing post for Allie & Max Cheoust.. Allie is 14 and Max is 11?(not 100% sure on his age) BUT they are still kids and don't deserved to bashed publically on here whether you say their name or not. If you think they won't see it you're wrong, you would be surprised at the number of people that read these posts on here. If you don't like the way Talmadge rides/trains take that up with him, i'm sure no one on here would even say anything in person. I'm pretty sure they've had several of their horses for 2-3 + years they have to be doing something right to keep them winning.. |
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| MS2011 - 2015-02-23 4:27 PM stayceem - 2015-02-23 4:22 PM OT - who was commentating? I was able to watch the runs on youtube but I never heard the introduction to who the fellow barrel racer was? Samatha Lyne
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Location: North Dakota | outrundaizy - 2015-02-23 5:47 PM Well I for one will say Chayni and Flo Jo are a perfect match. You can look on youtube, she knows how to ride, there's video's of her doing well on other horses.
Not sure how or why this turned into a bashing post for Allie & Max Cheoust.. Allie is 14 and Max is 11?(not 100% sure on his age) BUT they are still kids and don't deserved to bashed publically on here whether you say their name or not. If you think they won't see it you're wrong, you would be surprised at the number of people that read these posts on here. If you don't like the way Talmadge rides/trains take that up with him, i'm sure no one on here would even say anything in person. I'm pretty sure they've had several of their horses for 2-3 + years they have to be doing something right to keep them winning..
It is sad when adults are proud of themselves for putting a child down. They are out there trying and learning. We all had to start somewhere. They just so happen to qualify for a very large televised event instead of just sticking to 4H and playdays. Good for them! There are days I wish I was strapped in on one of my horses! And as for the bad behavior of the boy after his run...remember he is young! He is just a kid! I bet every single one of us on this board have had moments when we took something out on a horse when we shouldn't have because we let our emotions get to us, but lucky for us we most likely did it at a small little show without thousands watching. Keep in mind we probably only had a ribbon on the line and not a million dollars. Give the kids a break and just be happy there are youth out there wanting to do their best and continue to work hard in this sport even if there are adults out there clucking behind their backs. |
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| sodapop - 2015-02-23 6:23 PM
Anyone have a link to where she was featured on ESPN? I didn't get to see it. I would like to if anyone knows where to watch it. How exciting for her!
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I'm still chuckling about Chayni's response when she was asked the first time what she would do with a million dollars if she won. She said she would build an indoor arena and then give the rest to charity. After Uncle Sam gets his cut..that should leave her with about $12.00. LOL
Chayni is certainly a cute little girl with lots of positive energy. She was certainly raised right and we need a lot more kids like her. Seems like she is a champion in and outside the arena.
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I'm still chuckling about Chayni's response when she was asked the first time what she would do with a million dollars if she won. She said she would build an indoor arena and then give the rest to charity. After Uncle Sam gets his cut..that should leave her with about $12.00. LOL
Chayni is certainly a cute little girl with lots of positive energy. She was certainly raised right and we need a lot more kids like her. Seems like she is a champion in and outside the arena.
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Location: North Dakota | rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 7:22 PM Isn't it great that we live in a country where we are able to express our opinions on a subject knowing full well there will be some who don't agree and are offended by that opinion? We might not agree but we are free to not agree? It could be worse.
I will be rooting for Chayni all the way. I think she is a really neat little kid and she could ride the hair off any horse you put under her.
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| rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 5:45 PM
Spin Doctor - 2015-02-23 5:35 PM Just curious...how many of you have tried to keep ground even for all perfs? I know I try my best but it is a struggle. It is never the same and I have been doing for >10 years. I don't rodeo but have been to plenty of 3 and 4 day races with 600 plus runs a day and ground has been pretty even from the first run to 1800th run. If extra effort is required for a race of this magnitude and an opportunity to run for htis kind of $$ then do what it takes- I am sure it can be done.
But in that case they are maintaining it throughout, working to make one discipline happy. So you notice it's getting a little dry at run 145, you probably have a big drag at 150 to put a little water on, you're keeping it worked up with drags every 5 etc etc.
Not trying to make it good for Broncs, then ropers, then bulldoggers, Broncs again, Ropers again, barrel horses, and bulls.
Because if yours going to work the ground specifically to one event you have to work it specifically for all of the events.
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| OhMax - 2015-02-23 7:57 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-23 5:45 PM Spin Doctor - 2015-02-23 5:35 PM Just curious...how many of you have tried to keep ground even for all perfs? I know I try my best but it is a struggle. It is never the same and I have been doing for >10 years. I don't rodeo but have been to plenty of 3 and 4 day races with 600 plus runs a day and ground has been pretty even from the first run to 1800th run. If extra effort is required for a race of this magnitude and an opportunity to run for htis kind of $$ then do what it takes- I am sure it can be done. But in that case they are maintaining it throughout, working to make one discipline happy. So you notice it's getting a little dry at run 145, you probably have a big drag at 150 to put a little water on, you're keeping it worked up with drags every 5 etc etc. Not trying to make it good for Broncs, then ropers, then bulldoggers, Broncs again, Ropers again, barrel horses, and bulls. Because if yours going to work the ground specifically to one event you have to work it specifically for all of the events. I'm not saying the ground couldn't have been better, it could have. But comparing it to the consistency of jackpot ground isn't apples to apples either.
Agree, I guess trying to mix a barrel race with a rodeo takes more work than they were willing to do. They need to figure something out though because they qualified through barrel races not rodeo and BBR was supposed to give them barrel racing ground which is why they dragged the ground to groom it. |
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| jbhoot - 2015-02-23 8:15 PM HMMMMM.......I thought it was The American Rodeo. I didn't know that it is now The American Barrel race.
Yep, thought of that after I posted, you are right. I got stuck on the qualifiers being barrel racers and BBR dragging during the rodeo. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | jbhoot - 2015-02-23 8:15 PM HMMMMM.......I thought it was The American Rodeo. I didn't know that it is now The American Barrel race.
There was a lot of money generated from all the barrel racing entries. Maybe they will have an American Barrel Race straight race in the future. |
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| I was once the little girl on the powerful gray horse running against the adults. The hatred was insane. I'd love nothing more than to see this little girl take it all! Go all the way Chayni! |
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| stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:56 PM
I was once the little girl on the powerful gray horse running against the adults. The hatred was insane. I'd love nothing more than to see this little girl take it all! Go all the way Chayni!
I admire the heck out of her but I also admire her parents for getting her that nice horse and to the barrel races. Kudos to them. |
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Location: MD | streakysox - 2015-02-23 10:59 PM
stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:56 PM
I was once the little girl on the powerful gray horse running against the adults. The hatred was insane. I'd love nothing more than to see this little girl take it all! Go all the way Chayni!
I admire the heck out of her but I also admire her parents for getting her that nice horse and to the barrel races. Kudos to them.
That horse has been in the family for quite some time. Grandma and Mom have both won a pile on him. Glad to see Chayni being paired with such good partners to teach her proper, winning ways! |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | I loved it when during the auction Chayni said her Grandma didn't get along with the horse. LOL THey showed her mom laughing and shaking her head no, like it wasn't true. Out of the mouth of babes. LOL |
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| WrapSnap - 2015-02-23 11:30 PM streakysox - 2015-02-23 10:59 PM stayceem - 2015-02-23 9:56 PM I was once the little girl on the powerful gray horse running against the adults. The hatred was insane. I'd love nothing more than to see this little girl take it all! Go all the way Chayni! I admire the heck out of her but I also admire her parents for getting her that nice horse and to the barrel races. Kudos to them. That horse has been in the family for quite some time. Grandma and Mom have both won a pile on him. Glad to see Chayni being paired with such good partners to teach her proper, winning ways!
Very cool how 3 generations have won on him, what a special horse. Yes Wrap, Chayni has been taught well, she is one heck of a hand. I will be on the edge of my seat when she runs hoping she smokes a fast one. I have always loved watching the kids who can ride lay down a run. |
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Location: Arkansas | jbhoot - 2015-02-23 8:15 PM HMMMMM.......I thought it was The American Rodeo. I didn't know that it is now The American Barrel race.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Well one thing about it. People that dont normally follow rodeo are following it now due to this little girl on a big grey horse taking the world on! |
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Location: Ft Worth TX | I have hesitated on posting this but here it goes. I am so tired of all the negativity surrounding KIDS that made it to the American or to the Semi Finals. Kids are the FUTURE of the barrel racing industry- they qualified fair and square just like everyone else did. Who cares that they weigh less, wore a magic seat, had the night with "good ground" at semi's... Let me ask you- for those that feel the need to be low enough to knock these kids- Could you run their horse and do what they did? That 9yo girl that won semi's can FLAT RIDE, and RIDE that horse VERY WELL! She would have qualified if ground was like it was the first night, all the nights- either way she would still be headed to the American. For those that feel the need to be ugly towards the 15yo that wore the magic seat- SHAME ON YOU. She tried as hard as anyone to make it- there are NO RULES against using a magic seat so why not use it? I find it DISGUSTING adults feel the need to Bully the FUTURE of this industry making it somewhere they COULDN'T fathom ever doing from their couch! All these adults are is JEALOUS and need to get over themselves!
Chayni, Allie, Max, McKenzie they all did GREAT and regardless of what thos of you behind the keyboards think they worked their butts off to!!! |
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Location: North Dakota | Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:08 AM I have hesitated on posting this but here it goes. I am so tired of all the negativity surrounding KIDS that made it to the American or to the Semi Finals. Kids are the FUTURE of the barrel racing industry- they qualified fair and square just like everyone else did. Who cares that they weigh less, wore a magic seat, had the night with "good ground" at semi's... Let me ask you- for those that feel the need to be low enough to knock these kids- Could you run their horse and do what they did? That 9yo girl that won semi's can FLAT RIDE, and RIDE that horse VERY WELL! She would have qualified if ground was like it was the first night, all the nights- either way she would still be headed to the American. For those that feel the need to be ugly towards the 15yo that wore the magic seat- SHAME ON YOU. She tried as hard as anyone to make it- there are NO RULES against using a magic seat so why not use it? I find it DISGUSTING adults feel the need to Bully the FUTURE of this industry making it somewhere they COULDN'T fathom ever doing from their couch! All these adults are is JEALOUS and need to get over themselves! Chayni, Allie, Max, McKenzie they all did GREAT and regardless of what thos of you behind the keyboards think they worked their butts off to!!!
We all watch the news thinking how disgusting cyber bullying is and how dare some kids be so mean to other kids but yet look at how the adults freely bash kids. The rude comments towards those kids IS cyber bullying and it is disgusting. Think it, talk to your friends about it, but do not post it on a PUBLIC forum for those kids to read. I think people forget how many people come on this site and read these comments. |
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Location: Ft Worth TX | Just Bring It - 2015-02-24 7:32 AM
Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:08 AM I have hesitated on posting this but here it goes. I am so tired of all the negativity surrounding KIDS that made it to the American or to the Semi Finals. Kids are the FUTURE of the barrel racing industry- they qualified fair and square just like everyone else did. Who cares that they weigh less, wore a magic seat, had the night with "good ground" at semi's... Let me ask you- for those that feel the need to be low enough to knock these kids- Could you run their horse and do what they did? That 9yo girl that won semi's can FLAT RIDE, and RIDE that horse VERY WELL! She would have qualified if ground was like it was the first night, all the nights- either way she would still be headed to the American. For those that feel the need to be ugly towards the 15yo that wore the magic seat- SHAME ON YOU. She tried as hard as anyone to make it- there are NO RULES against using a magic seat so why not use it? I find it DISGUSTING adults feel the need to Bully the FUTURE of this industry making it somewhere they COULDN'T fathom ever doing from their couch! All these adults are is JEALOUS and need to get over themselves! Chayni, Allie, Max, McKenzie they all did GREAT and regardless of what thos of you behind the keyboards think they worked their butts off to!!!
We all watch the news thinking how disgusting cyber bullying is and how dare some kids be so mean to other kids but yet look at how the adults freely bash kids. The rude comments towards those kids IS cyber bullying and it is disgusting. Think it, talk to your friends about it, but do not post it on a PUBLIC forum for those kids to read. I think people forget how many people come on this site and read these comments.
I can tell you i am so disgusted by all the adults bashing these kids on FB and on here- I don't see why we cannot be happy for them! If these kids are this awesome now think about how exciting the future of barrel racing is going to be! and Allie rode hard to and TBH she still popped out of the saddle even with the magic seat so its not like she was strapped down and flopping she was RIDDING that horse HARD and doing it WELL. |
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Location: AR & OK | Go Chayni Chamberlain and her team.
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| Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:37 AM
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Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:08 AM I have hesitated on posting this but here it goes. I am so tired of all the negativity surrounding KIDS that made it to the American or to the Semi Finals. Kids are the FUTURE of the barrel racing industry- they qualified fair and square just like everyone else did. Who cares that they weigh less, wore a magic seat, had the night with "good ground" at semi's... Let me ask you- for those that feel the need to be low enough to knock these kids- Could you run their horse and do what they did? That 9yo girl that won semi's can FLAT RIDE, and RIDE that horse VERY WELL! She would have qualified if ground was like it was the first night, all the nights- either way she would still be headed to the American. For those that feel the need to be ugly towards the 15yo that wore the magic seat- SHAME ON YOU. She tried as hard as anyone to make it- there are NO RULES against using a magic seat so why not use it? I find it DISGUSTING adults feel the need to Bully the FUTURE of this industry making it somewhere they COULDN'T fathom ever doing from their couch! All these adults are is JEALOUS and need to get over themselves! Chayni, Allie, Max, McKenzie they all did GREAT and regardless of what thos of you behind the keyboards think they worked their butts off to!!!
We all watch the news thinking how disgusting cyber bullying is and how dare some kids be so mean to other kids but yet look at how the adults freely bash kids. The rude comments towards those kids IS cyber bullying and it is disgusting. Think it, talk to your friends about it, but do not post it on a PUBLIC forum for those kids to read. I think people forget how many people come on this site and read these comments.
I can tell you i am so disgusted by all the adults bashing these kids on FB and on here- I don't see why we cannot be happy for them! If these kids are this awesome now think about how exciting the future of barrel racing is going to be! and Allie rode hard to and TBH she still popped out of the saddle even with the magic seat so its not like she was strapped down and flopping she was RIDDING that horse HARD and doing it WELL.
Wow, have not seen the bashing on FB and glad of it. I saw Chayni run at the Glen Rose qualifier, she tied for 4th out of over 200 entries of the toughest horses around- all run on the same dirt on the same night. I was a drag behind her in the open the next day and congratulated her and her dad- nice, nice family. |
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Location: The edge of no where | rodeomom3 - 2015-02-24 9:41 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:37 AM Just Bring It - 2015-02-24 7:32 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:08 AM I have hesitated on posting this but here it goes. I am so tired of all the negativity surrounding KIDS that made it to the American or to the Semi Finals. Kids are the FUTURE of the barrel racing industry- they qualified fair and square just like everyone else did. Who cares that they weigh less, wore a magic seat, had the night with "good ground" at semi's... Let me ask you- for those that feel the need to be low enough to knock these kids- Could you run their horse and do what they did? That 9yo girl that won semi's can FLAT RIDE, and RIDE that horse VERY WELL! She would have qualified if ground was like it was the first night, all the nights- either way she would still be headed to the American. For those that feel the need to be ugly towards the 15yo that wore the magic seat- SHAME ON YOU. She tried as hard as anyone to make it- there are NO RULES against using a magic seat so why not use it? I find it DISGUSTING adults feel the need to Bully the FUTURE of this industry making it somewhere they COULDN'T fathom ever doing from their couch! All these adults are is JEALOUS and need to get over themselves! Chayni, Allie, Max, McKenzie they all did GREAT and regardless of what thos of you behind the keyboards think they worked their butts off to!!! We all watch the news thinking how disgusting cyber bullying is and how dare some kids be so mean to other kids but yet look at how the adults freely bash kids. The rude comments towards those kids IS cyber bullying and it is disgusting. Think it, talk to your friends about it, but do not post it on a PUBLIC forum for those kids to read. I think people forget how many people come on this site and read these comments. I can tell you i am so disgusted by all the adults bashing these kids on FB and on here- I don't see why we cannot be happy for them! If these kids are this awesome now think about how exciting the future of barrel racing is going to be! and Allie rode hard to and TBH she still popped out of the saddle even with the magic seat so its not like she was strapped down and flopping she was RIDDING that horse HARD and doing it WELL. Wow, have not seen the bashing on FB and glad of it. I saw Chayni run at the Glen Rose qualifier, she tied for 4th out of over 200 entries of the toughest horses around- all run on the same dirt on the same night. I was a drag behind her in the open the next day and congratulated her and her dad- nice, nice family.
All I've seen on FB is a whole bunch of people really excited to watch a tiny cowgirl on a big grey horse go smoke a pattern on Sunday. Apprently I've missed the drama...LOL! We see her all the time at jackpots on different horses, and she works her tail off. Her mom is always right behind her tuning on her riding. It's fun to watch. |
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| That Facebook post was horrible! Likes seriously the best ADULTS in our business picking on a couple kids who probably will never have the horse power nor the money to go somewhere big and then person after person kissing up the the chouest's and destri commenting on it and dogging these teenage girls. Not to mention blacklisting them from a show they'll never have enough money to go to anyway. I thought it was very IRONIC all in the name of "anti-bullying", did they not realize they were just bullying back by doing all that?!?!?! |
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Location: Oklahoma | Jan Sigler - 2015-02-24 10:50 AM So glad u posted this. Adults being bullies!
I never understand adult women acting the way they do when there is a kid winning!?! No different than when the Steinhoff girls were winning a lot, then Mesa Leavitt, etc. It is tacky and shameful. No wonder kids are so mean these days because apparently their mothers are too! JMO
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| MS2011 - 2015-02-24 10:52 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-24 9:41 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:37 AM Just Bring It - 2015-02-24 7:32 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:08 AM I have hesitated on posting this but here it goes. I am so tired of all the negativity surrounding KIDS that made it to the American or to the Semi Finals. Kids are the FUTURE of the barrel racing industry- they qualified fair and square just like everyone else did. Who cares that they weigh less, wore a magic seat, had the night with "good ground" at semi's... Let me ask you- for those that feel the need to be low enough to knock these kids- Could you run their horse and do what they did? That 9yo girl that won semi's can FLAT RIDE, and RIDE that horse VERY WELL! She would have qualified if ground was like it was the first night, all the nights- either way she would still be headed to the American. For those that feel the need to be ugly towards the 15yo that wore the magic seat- SHAME ON YOU. She tried as hard as anyone to make it- there are NO RULES against using a magic seat so why not use it? I find it DISGUSTING adults feel the need to Bully the FUTURE of this industry making it somewhere they COULDN'T fathom ever doing from their couch! All these adults are is JEALOUS and need to get over themselves! Chayni, Allie, Max, McKenzie they all did GREAT and regardless of what thos of you behind the keyboards think they worked their butts off to!!! We all watch the news thinking how disgusting cyber bullying is and how dare some kids be so mean to other kids but yet look at how the adults freely bash kids. The rude comments towards those kids IS cyber bullying and it is disgusting. Think it, talk to your friends about it, but do not post it on a PUBLIC forum for those kids to read. I think people forget how many people come on this site and read these comments. I can tell you i am so disgusted by all the adults bashing these kids on FB and on here- I don't see why we cannot be happy for them! If these kids are this awesome now think about how exciting the future of barrel racing is going to be! and Allie rode hard to and TBH she still popped out of the saddle even with the magic seat so its not like she was strapped down and flopping she was RIDDING that horse HARD and doing it WELL. Wow, have not seen the bashing on FB and glad of it. I saw Chayni run at the Glen Rose qualifier, she tied for 4th out of over 200 entries of the toughest horses around- all run on the same dirt on the same night. I was a drag behind her in the open the next day and congratulated her and her dad- nice, nice family.
I really want to point out I never meant it to sound like I was dogging this girl. She is a good lil rider and very determined to win but I strongly disagree with the soliciting of money, the way have acted after they wrecked the rig they borrowed, and the fact that they are running the horse again at the Patriot after this wreck. The lil girl is not the issue. The way the parents and step parents have acted is a HUGE issue and its not right that they are asking for charity or that they are asking the horse to run again. BTW the aunt or grandmother set up that go fund me account and the aunt has been in trouble for embelezing money before...just an FYI! Please don't delete this people need to see it as much as they need to see the "Lydia Cup" thread. 
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| I had a long thing typed out and it went poof and disappeared so I will keep this short. I live by the rule to treat others as I would like to be treated.
I am old now and don't really put up with other people's bull schit so I am going to unfriend any "friends" that are full of it.
Also, when I first posted this I certainly was not trying to take away from anyone. Everyone ran on the same ground. Everyone who qualified had to work hard and beat a lot of riders to get there. I am sure that when the gate opens it will be a tough set of competitors. Wish all of you good luck and can't wait to see who comes out on top. |
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| CYA Ranch - 2015-02-23 3:59 PM MS2011 - 2015-02-23 2:53 PM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-23 2:33 PM rodeomom13 - 2015-02-23 2:09 PM The only problem I had with the barrel racing is the girl, I don't remember her name. She was 14?? They made a big deal about her only riding horses for 2 years. She was strapped on and just along for the ride, horse was way too fast for her to keep up with. I don't know who in their right mind would strap their kid on a horse going 9-0 when they obviously don't have the ability or experience to stay on and ride it.
Flame away... Just not something I would let my kid do. Learn to ride first. The gal you were referring to also had a brother that ran in the slack, he also was strapped in. They were trained by a well known trainer that I have no respect for and needs to teach these kids a little horsemanship before putting them on these high powered horses. Everyone can flame me too.
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Location: Buffalo, TX | There will always be haters and bullies....
1..They don't want the kids to run because of the weight...then how do you account for the ladies who weigh under 100 lbs?....handicap them?...LOL
2..They don't want the guys to run because of their strength....but nothing is said about most of them weighing 150 or more....
The truth is...haters and bullies want to win by eliminating the competition one way or another....ignore them....congratulations to whoever comes out on top Sunday....it'll be the team who handles the pattern, atmosphere, the ground, and their nerves the best that day....
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Location: The edge of no where | astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 11:04 AM
That Facebook post was horrible! Likes seriously the best ADULTS in our business picking on a couple kids who probably will never have the horse power nor the money to go somewhere big and then person after person kissing up the the chouest's and destri commenting on it and dogging these teenage girls. Not to mention blacklisting them from a show they'll never have enough money to go to anyway. I thought it was very IRONIC all in the name of "anti-bullying", did they not realize they were just bullying back by doing all that?!?!?!
Wow! I just saw the FB post. Ouch!
I agree with you, she didn't post anything that bad...just maybe a bad call from a teenager and proceeded to get ripped by a lot of adults.
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| I have been following several Facebook posts as well as this thread, makes me sick to see the things being said about CHILDREN, these are CHILDREN, the same people talking about them, are probably the people these CHILDREN look up to in our sport and strive to be like. How humiliating would it be for those people who sure have a lot of negative to say about these kids, to have that same kid come up to them down the road and tell them how they were their idol and they wanted to be just like them, I would feel about a millimeter small. The sad thing, these kids probably do look up to these people who are running them down, not to mention, these kids don't even understand what it means to look down on someone, they are too young to understand, they are out there just doing what they love because mom and dad said here is where we are going to run today. Practice pen or for a million, these kids are going to do the same thing in their run regardless, that is what makes them great, they don't let nerves and anxiety get the best of them like so many of us adults do, they just go in there and do their thing, I sure wish I could still do that instead of picking my run apart before I even make it. I have seen girls who carry Pro cards saying ugly things on this subject, not on this post, but on the 100's spread across Facebook right now. You are PROFESSIONALS and you should act that way in EVERY aspect, you win with grace and you better dang sure learn how to lose with grace too. Being a professional doesn't just mean you get to act that way when you are winning, you better be carrying yourself as one ALL THE TIME!! This is the future of barrel racing, this is what keeps our sport great, we should all be cheering them on and every other person who runs Sunday for that matter. They all EARNED their spot to be there, plain and simple, it wasn't luck or that this one weighs less then that one, or she got a better ground draw than the other, they all still had to make it through 2 other runs to even be in the semi finals. I think any one of those 21 people running deserve that win next Sunday, every one of them has worked hard to be there and I will be there cheering every one of them on!! |
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| astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 11:04 AM
That Facebook post was horrible! Likes seriously the best ADULTS in our business picking on a couple kids who probably will never have the horse power nor the money to go somewhere big and then person after person kissing up the the chouest's and destri commenting on it and dogging these teenage girls. Not to mention blacklisting them from a show they'll never have enough money to go to anyway. I thought it was very IRONIC all in the name of "anti-bullying", did they not realize they were just bullying back by doing all that?!?!?!
I teach school and I have never allowed bullying in 39 years of teaching. Anytime you say or do something that is hurtful of others is bullying and it is wrong. Hats off to Destry for stopping it. This Chouest kid has been winning all over the South. I guess the barrel racers on here don't look at results anywhere other tha the shows that you go to. I love to see who is winning at any show. I ALWAYS check out the results. Pretty good reading.
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This sweet little 9 yr old girl and her gray horse deserve everything they accomplished the other day, and personally, because of what my daughter has been thru??? I am choosing to root for HER and her gray horse to win it all ~ I can not believe how rude and hateful grown adults can be..how jealous and mean......She is a KID for heaven sake!!!! Do you not think she or her parents can read this???? And the ones bad mouthing???? I'm sure if it was YOUR daughter???? That you would be leaping for joy and not ONE of these "issues" you claim, would then be an issue...Just saying....
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| streakysox - 2015-02-24 1:51 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 11:04 AM
That Facebook post was horrible! Likes seriously the best ADULTS in our business picking on a couple kids who probably will never have the horse power nor the money to go somewhere big and then person after person kissing up the the chouest's and destri commenting on it and dogging these teenage girls. Not to mention blacklisting them from a show they'll never have enough money to go to anyway. I thought it was very IRONIC all in the name of "anti-bullying", did they not realize they were just bullying back by doing all that?!?!?!
I teach school and I have never allowed bullying in 39 years of teaching. Anytime you say or do something that is hurtful of others is bullying and it is wrong. Hats off to Destry for stopping it. This Chouest kid has been winning all over the South. I guess the barrel racers on here don't look at results anywhere other tha the shows that you go to. I love to see who is winning at any show. I ALWAYS check out the results. Pretty good reading.
Thanks Destry for stopping it.
I'm confused so your condoning destri and these other professionals post that basically turned into bullying these teenagers for being teenagers? Many times in today's world the person that "stands up" is just as mean and nasty back to the bully. Turn the other check and don't regard these girls....have some class!
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I would like to know when it became not nice to voice an opinion and if it's not the opinion you want to hear it's mean spirited, bashing etc. I see it no different when people claim someone is racist when they go against our president. There are always variables when it comes to Barrel Racing. You have the ground, the luck of the draw, equipment failure etc. There was a huge difference in the ground from Friday to Sunday and if you don't see that you don't understand barrel racing. Sunday's performance was a heart breaker to see so many great horses slip slidding around and hitting barrels from slipping etc. It is what it is and why is it taboo to talk about it?
Next Sunday will be good watching and one winner will be crowned and it will be because they were the best that day. Everyone else will have their dream crushed of winning it but they will be able to say they ran with the best of the best and along with that comes bragging rights alone as they qualified to get there. For those that got screwed on the luck of the draw, I'm sure it wasn't the first time and certainly would be the last time. I hope you get a chance to do it all over again next year.
And on Sunday night we will all be back on here talking about what if? And to that I say..So what. I would never want to take the luck of the draw to the level that the other events have when it comes to drawing a great bronc, a good steer or a great calf. There will never be a perfect playing field. It's impossible but it doesn't make someone a hater when they talk about it.
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| Nevertooold - 2015-02-24 2:37 PM
I would like to know when it became not nice to voice an opinion and if it's not the opinion you want to hear it's mean spirited, bashing etc. I see it no different when people claim someone is racist when they go against our president. There are always variables when it comes to Barrel Racing. You have the ground, the luck of the draw, equipment failure etc. There was a huge difference in the ground from Friday to Sunday and if you don't see that you don't understand barrel racing. Sunday's performance was a heart breaker to see so many great horses slip slidding around and hitting barrels from slipping etc. It is what it is and why is it taboo to talk about it?
Next Sunday will be good watching and one winner will be crowned and it will be because they were the best that day. Everyone else will have their dream crushed of winning it but they will be able to say they ran with the best of the best and along with that comes bragging rights alone as they qualified to get there. For those that got screwed on the luck of the draw, I'm sure it wasn't the first time and certainly would be the last time. I hope you get a chance to do it all over again next year.
And on Sunday night we will all be back on here talking about what if? And to that I say..So what. I would never want to take the luck of the draw to the level that the other events have when it comes to drawing a great bronc, a good steer or a great calf. There will never be a perfect playing field. It's impossible but it doesn't make someone a hater when they talk about it.
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Location: North Dakota | Nevertooold - 2015-02-24 2:37 PM I would like to know when it became not nice to voice an opinion and if it's not the opinion you want to hear it's mean spirited, bashing etc. I see it no different when people claim someone is racist when they go against our president. There are always variables when it comes to Barrel Racing. You have the ground, the luck of the draw, equipment failure etc. There was a huge difference in the ground from Friday to Sunday and if you don't see that you don't understand barrel racing. Sunday's performance was a heart breaker to see so many great horses slip slidding around and hitting barrels from slipping etc. It is what it is and why is it taboo to talk about it?
Next Sunday will be good watching and one winner will be crowned and it will be because they were the best that day. Everyone else will have their dream crushed of winning it but they will be able to say they ran with the best of the best and along with that comes bragging rights alone as they qualified to get there. For those that got screwed on the luck of the draw, I'm sure it wasn't the first time and certainly would be the last time. I hope you get a chance to do it all over again next year.
And on Sunday night we will all be back on here talking about what if? And to that I say..So what. I would never want to take the luck of the draw to the level that the other events have when it comes to drawing a great bronc, a good steer or a great calf. There will never be a perfect playing field. It's impossible but it doesn't make someone a hater when they talk about it. I don't think anyone was saying it was not nice to say that the other two perfs didn't have as nice of ground. It is a fact the first perf girls had better ground. Now that is not taking away anything from Chayni!! She would have been one of the top ones regardless. But I think many people are tired of reading posts bashing the kids that use a magic seat and pretty much saying those kids cannot ride and have no right to be on those horses and competing at that level which I personally feel is very rude. I don't feel a child should be over mounted where it is dangerous but I did not feel these kids were over mounted. The horses did not seem dangerous or crazy. They just seemed fast and well trained. Good for those kids making an effort and being able to compete against the best of the best!
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Location: In a happy place | Nevertooold - 2015-02-24 2:37 PM I would like to know when it became not nice to voice an opinion and if it's not the opinion you want to hear it's mean spirited, bashing etc. I see it no different when people claim someone is racist when they go against our president. There are always variables when it comes to Barrel Racing. You have the ground, the luck of the draw, equipment failure etc. There was a huge difference in the ground from Friday to Sunday and if you don't see that you don't understand barrel racing. Sunday's performance was a heart breaker to see so many great horses slip slidding around and hitting barrels from slipping etc. It is what it is and why is it taboo to talk about it?
Next Sunday will be good watching and one winner will be crowned and it will be because they were the best that day. Everyone else will have their dream crushed of winning it but they will be able to say they ran with the best of the best and along with that comes bragging rights alone as they qualified to get there. For those that got screwed on the luck of the draw, I'm sure it wasn't the first time and certainly would be the last time. I hope you get a chance to do it all over again next year.
And on Sunday night we will all be back on here talking about what if? And to that I say..So what. I would never want to take the luck of the draw to the level that the other events have when it comes to drawing a great bronc, a good steer or a great calf. There will never be a perfect playing field. It's impossible but it doesn't make someone a hater when they talk about it.
And it was quite obvious watching the last performances the ground was horrible, nothing like the first go. That is a fact. So it was harder to qualify in the last two rounds. What is wrong with saying that? |
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| Just Bring It - 2015-02-24 3:22 PM
Nevertooold - 2015-02-24 2:37 PM I would like to know when it became not nice to voice an opinion and if it's not the opinion you want to hear it's mean spirited, bashing etc. I see it no different when people claim someone is racist when they go against our president. There are always variables when it comes to Barrel Racing. You have the ground, the luck of the draw, equipment failure etc. There was a huge difference in the ground from Friday to Sunday and if you don't see that you don't understand barrel racing. Sunday's performance was a heart breaker to see so many great horses slip slidding around and hitting barrels from slipping etc. It is what it is and why is it taboo to talk about it?
Next Sunday will be good watching and one winner will be crowned and it will be because they were the best that day. Everyone else will have their dream crushed of winning it but they will be able to say they ran with the best of the best and along with that comes bragging rights alone as they qualified to get there. For those that got screwed on the luck of the draw, I'm sure it wasn't the first time and certainly would be the last time. I hope you get a chance to do it all over again next year.
And on Sunday night we will all be back on here talking about what if? And to that I say..So what. I would never want to take the luck of the draw to the level that the other events have when it comes to drawing a great bronc, a good steer or a great calf. There will never be a perfect playing field. It's impossible but it doesn't make someone a hater when they talk about it. I don't think anyone was saying it was not nice to say that the other two perfs didn't have as nice of ground. It is a fact the first perf girls had better ground. Now that is not taking away anything from Chayni!! She would have been one of the top ones regardless. But I think many people are tired of reading posts bashing the kids that use a magic seat and pretty much saying those kids cannot ride and have no right to be on those horses and competing at that level which I personally feel is very rude. I don't feel a child should be over mounted where it is dangerous but I did not feel these kids were over mounted. The horses did not seem dangerous or crazy. They just seemed fast and well trained. Good for those kids making an effort and being able to compete against the best of the best!
Couldn't agree with this more....................in fact, I read through this entire blog and never, not once did I see anyone bully or talk bad about this little girl...but like usual, people only read what they want to read so they can start drama. As awesome as a place this is for learning and talking with people about our shared love of horses...........it is also one of the worst places for snarky, drama filled comments. Someone had an opinion that weight matters and she felt there should have been a Jr. division. That was her opinion and in no way bashed anyone. Pathetic. |
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Location: Online | I have no problem with the kids. That's not my issue. It's the adults who are in charge of the kids and their tactics. Putting kids on horses that they are not experienced enough to handle properly. Horsemanship first is what I teach my kids. And it shows with Chayni's parents, she has real horsemanship skills. Hate my opinion all you want, I have a thick skin.
If you want to call an opinion bullying, that's fine. Attacking someone for sharing an opinion you don't agree with is no different. Hello, pot. I'm kettle. Guess what? We're both black.
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Location: North Dakota | rodeomom13 - 2015-02-24 3:52 PM I have no problem with the kids. That's not my issue. It's the adults who are in charge of the kids and their tactics. Putting kids on horses that they are not experienced enough to handle properly. Horsemanship first is what I teach my kids. And it shows with Chayni's parents, she has real horsemanship skills. Hate my opinion all you want, I have a thick skin.
If you want to call an opinion bullying, that's fine. Attacking someone for sharing an opinion you don't agree with is no different. Hello, pot. I'm kettle. Guess what? We're both black.
Having an opinion is fine! I am not saying you shouldn't feel the way you do or have your opinion. Not everything is directed about what you had said either. But the way some things were worded by a few posters would be hurtful for a child to read. There are ways to word things that are constructive and ways that are hurtful. Some comments by a few came across as snarky and not nice. They were not just voicing an opinion.
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Location: Ft Worth TX | astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 10:18 AM
MS2011 - 2015-02-24 10:52 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-24 9:41 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:37 AM Just Bring It - 2015-02-24 7:32 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:08 AM I have hesitated on posting this but here it goes. I am so tired of all the negativity surrounding KIDS that made it to the American or to the Semi Finals. Kids are the FUTURE of the barrel racing industry- they qualified fair and square just like everyone else did. Who cares that they weigh less, wore a magic seat, had the night with "good ground" at semi's... Let me ask you- for those that feel the need to be low enough to knock these kids- Could you run their horse and do what they did? That 9yo girl that won semi's can FLAT RIDE, and RIDE that horse VERY WELL! She would have qualified if ground was like it was the first night, all the nights- either way she would still be headed to the American. For those that feel the need to be ugly towards the 15yo that wore the magic seat- SHAME ON YOU. She tried as hard as anyone to make it- there are NO RULES against using a magic seat so why not use it? I find it DISGUSTING adults feel the need to Bully the FUTURE of this industry making it somewhere they COULDN'T fathom ever doing from their couch! All these adults are is JEALOUS and need to get over themselves! Chayni, Allie, Max, McKenzie they all did GREAT and regardless of what thos of you behind the keyboards think they worked their butts off to!!! We all watch the news thinking how disgusting cyber bullying is and how dare some kids be so mean to other kids but yet look at how the adults freely bash kids. The rude comments towards those kids IS cyber bullying and it is disgusting. Think it, talk to your friends about it, but do not post it on a PUBLIC forum for those kids to read. I think people forget how many people come on this site and read these comments. I can tell you i am so disgusted by all the adults bashing these kids on FB and on here- I don't see why we cannot be happy for them! If these kids are this awesome now think about how exciting the future of barrel racing is going to be! and Allie rode hard to and TBH she still popped out of the saddle even with the magic seat so its not like she was strapped down and flopping she was RIDDING that horse HARD and doing it WELL. Wow, have not seen the bashing on FB and glad of it. I saw Chayni run at the Glen Rose qualifier, she tied for 4th out of over 200 entries of the toughest horses around- all run on the same dirt on the same night. I was a drag behind her in the open the next day and congratulated her and her dad- nice, nice family.
I really want to point out I never meant it to sound like I was dogging this girl. She is a good lil rider and very determined to win but I strongly disagree with the soliciting of money, the way have acted after they wrecked the rig they borrowed, and the fact that they are running the horse again at the Patriot after this wreck. The lil girl is not the issue. The way the parents and step parents have acted is a HUGE issue and its not right that they are asking for charity or that they are asking the horse to run again. BTW the aunt or grandmother set up that go fund me account and the aunt has been in trouble for embelezing money before...just an FYI! Please don't delete this people need to see it as much as they need to see the "Lydia Cup" thread.
I don't know McKenzie or the family but I DO KNOW the vets that worked on the horse and if they said hes ok to run- I PROMISE YOU that horse is OK to run. He went into some of the BEST of hands and got salt water therapy and much more after that accident. From what I understand she did not run H2 in Semi's either, she borrowed a horse. But if the vet he went to OK's him to run, they are some of the BEST PERFORMANCE VETS AROUND, and know when a horse is or isn't ok to run- that i know. |
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| Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 7:34 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 10:18 AM
MS2011 - 2015-02-24 10:52 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-02-24 9:41 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:37 AM Just Bring It - 2015-02-24 7:32 AM Whoop Z Day Z - 2015-02-24 8:08 AM I have hesitated on posting this but here it goes. I am so tired of all the negativity surrounding KIDS that made it to the American or to the Semi Finals. Kids are the FUTURE of the barrel racing industry- they qualified fair and square just like everyone else did. Who cares that they weigh less, wore a magic seat, had the night with "good ground" at semi's... Let me ask you- for those that feel the need to be low enough to knock these kids- Could you run their horse and do what they did? That 9yo girl that won semi's can FLAT RIDE, and RIDE that horse VERY WELL! She would have qualified if ground was like it was the first night, all the nights- either way she would still be headed to the American. For those that feel the need to be ugly towards the 15yo that wore the magic seat- SHAME ON YOU. She tried as hard as anyone to make it- there are NO RULES against using a magic seat so why not use it? I find it DISGUSTING adults feel the need to Bully the FUTURE of this industry making it somewhere they COULDN'T fathom ever doing from their couch! All these adults are is JEALOUS and need to get over themselves! Chayni, Allie, Max, McKenzie they all did GREAT and regardless of what thos of you behind the keyboards think they worked their butts off to!!! We all watch the news thinking how disgusting cyber bullying is and how dare some kids be so mean to other kids but yet look at how the adults freely bash kids. The rude comments towards those kids IS cyber bullying and it is disgusting. Think it, talk to your friends about it, but do not post it on a PUBLIC forum for those kids to read. I think people forget how many people come on this site and read these comments. I can tell you i am so disgusted by all the adults bashing these kids on FB and on here- I don't see why we cannot be happy for them! If these kids are this awesome now think about how exciting the future of barrel racing is going to be! and Allie rode hard to and TBH she still popped out of the saddle even with the magic seat so its not like she was strapped down and flopping she was RIDDING that horse HARD and doing it WELL. Wow, have not seen the bashing on FB and glad of it. I saw Chayni run at the Glen Rose qualifier, she tied for 4th out of over 200 entries of the toughest horses around- all run on the same dirt on the same night. I was a drag behind her in the open the next day and congratulated her and her dad- nice, nice family.
I really want to point out I never meant it to sound like I was dogging this girl. She is a good lil rider and very determined to win but I strongly disagree with the soliciting of money, the way have acted after they wrecked the rig they borrowed, and the fact that they are running the horse again at the Patriot after this wreck. The lil girl is not the issue. The way the parents and step parents have acted is a HUGE issue and its not right that they are asking for charity or that they are asking the horse to run again. BTW the aunt or grandmother set up that go fund me account and the aunt has been in trouble for embelezing money before...just an FYI! Please don't delete this people need to see it as much as they need to see the "Lydia Cup" thread.
I don't know McKenzie or the family but I DO KNOW the vets that worked on the horse and if they said hes ok to run- I PROMISE YOU that horse is OK to run. He went into some of the BEST of hands and got salt water therapy and much more after that accident. From what I understand she did not run H2 in Semi's either, she borrowed a horse. But if the vet he went to OK's him to run, they are some of the BEST PERFORMANCE VETS AROUND, and know when a horse is or isn't ok to run- that i know.
That was H2 each time and I know Josh at Outlaw Equine very well myself and I hope he made them pay for all the therapies he used on that horse and didn't give any more charity. I never said he was "unsound" or that Josh and his crew didn't do a good job or give good advice. Its just I would never ask that of a horse especially one with heart that'll run regardless. Again not dogging outlaw equine nor mackenzie, she's a great little rider. Just don't agree with how the parents and family have acted.
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Location: Where the Jasmine & Magnolia Grow | astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 5:19 PM Well I'm glad this post got the Facebook posts took down JUST now proof team talmadage reads this....
Actually, the neat cowy turning barrel horse, BUDDY ROSE, that Destri Devenport qualified on, is one of Allie Chouest horses. Buddy Rose is not registered, and I believe he was her main mount when she & her brother Max, started running a few years ago. |
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| levumstandin - 2015-02-24 7:53 PM
astreakinchic - 2015-02-24 5:19 PM Well I'm glad this post got the Facebook posts took down JUST now proof team talmadage reads this....
Actually, the neat cowy turning barrel horse, BUDDY ROSE, that Destri Devenport qualified on, is one of Allie Chouest horses. Buddy Rose is not registered, and I believe he was her main mount when she & her brother Max, started running a few years ago.
What does this haft to do with what I said? And I know the horse..
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| As someone pointed out earlier, here you can hide by a screen name and facebook has no hiding. Once again you are flaming the McKenzie Morgan family when on facebook by their real names, both parties have supported each other and said kind and wonderful prayer words for each other. As for that wonderful horse H2, he has been cleared to run and did not run in Texas until Wednesday of the slack performance. McKenzie rode a borrowed horse on Sunday. You have stated enough bad vibes about this family and this horse.
As to Chayni, go get um KIDO!!! You can ride with the best and smile better than the rest. Don't let all these bad words drag you down. You did not purchase your way into the finals, you rode your way into the finals. You are not a passenger, you drive your horse and you ride as a team. My hats off to you and your family for giving you the chance and my prayers to them for having the strength to let such nasty people roll off their backs.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Just Bring It - 2015-02-24 4:03 PM rodeomom13 - 2015-02-24 3:52 PM I have no problem with the kids. That's not my issue. It's the adults who are in charge of the kids and their tactics. Putting kids on horses that they are not experienced enough to handle properly. Horsemanship first is what I teach my kids. And it shows with Chayni's parents, she has real horsemanship skills. Hate my opinion all you want, I have a thick skin.
If you want to call an opinion bullying, that's fine. Attacking someone for sharing an opinion you don't agree with is no different. Hello, pot. I'm kettle. Guess what? We're both black.
Having an opinion is fine! I am not saying you shouldn't feel the way you do or have your opinion. Not everything is directed about what you had said either. But the way some things were worded by a few posters would be hurtful for a child to read. There are ways to word things that are constructive and ways that are hurtful. Some comments by a few came across as snarky and not nice. They were not just voicing an opinion.
Anyways GO CHAYNI GO!
Sara you're probably referring to my opinions and yes I do think its dangerous to put kids on horses hat are too much for their experience level and I put that blame on their so called trainer. I also agree that Chayni is well matched with her horse and I give her folks a huge pat on the back for that. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | schnitkey - 2015-02-24 8:03 PM As someone pointed out earlier, here you can hide by a screen name and facebook has no hiding. Once again you are flaming the McKenzie Morgan family when on facebook by their real names, both parties have supported each other and said kind and wonderful prayer words for each other. As for that wonderful horse H2, he has been cleared to run and did not run in Texas until Wednesday of the slack performance. McKenzie rode a borrowed horse on Sunday. You have stated enough bad vibes about this family and this horse. As to Chayni, go get um KIDO!!! You can ride with the best and smile better than the rest. Don't let all these bad words drag you down. You did not purchase your way into the finals, you rode your way into the finals. You are not a passenger, you drive your horse and you ride as a team. My hats off to you and your family for giving you the chance and my prayers to them for having the strength to let such nasty people roll off their backs.
Actually, again,,,,,I have not seen ONE single bad thing said about Chayni. NOT ONE!! So you all need to get off that horse.
Now, as to the rest about the other kids mentioned in here, Phulease. I for one applaud ANYBODY, for being safety minded and taking care of themselves by wearing a helmet or a magic seat for that matter!! Seriously???? Do you buckle your seat belt? Would you rather see anybody recieve a serious brain injury? If I rode the horses that kid is riding, I'd use a magic seat to!
Truth be known, I fear for Chayni running on sunday back into that extremily short alley box, without a helmet on. Yep, she rides the hair off that horse and he is a awsome horse! Yet, she is very little so not a whole lot of leg on that horse so it is easy to get launched and that run out, is EXTREMILY short! Not much more then a ropin box.
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Location: Kansas | Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
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| Frodo - 2015-02-26 4:41 AM Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
There are plenty of other events for adults only. This is just happens to be one where anyone can play. Let the kid have her day in the sun. If I were Chayni, I'd be insulted. Sure she weighs less than a tick, but she outrode. Period. |
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Location: OH | I said it a few pages ago and I'll say it again---this is GREAT for barrel racing !!! Our sport has never goten this kind of attention. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | I absolutelly LOVE the concept of The American in that ANYBODY can qualify to run. It is great for rodeo, and great for our sport!! |
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Location: OH | ThreeCorners - 2015-02-25 9:48 AM I absolutelly LOVE the concept of The American in that ANYBODY can qualify to run. It is great for rodeo, and great for our sport!!
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| RidenFly - 2015-02-25 7:11 AM Frodo - 2015-02-26 4:41 AM Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
There are plenty of other events for adults only. This is just happens to be one where anyone can play. Let the kid have her day in the sun. If I were Chayni, I'd be insulted. Sure she weighs less than a tick, but she outrode. Period.
Agree, advantages come in all forms, from coming from a rodeo family and growing up riding vs beginning as a teenager. Congrats to all who made it however they got there.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | The American was designed to give a shot to the underdog and to change lives. The actual rodeo isn't even here yet and lives have already been changed. Mission complete. I also want to say I've had my butt kicked by kiddos smaller than me and adults bigger than me. |
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| I am a Chayni fan all the way. I think this little girl has more class in her Pinky than a lot of people do. She outran a lot of people by her horsemanship. Her run was as smooth as glass. Smoothness makes up a lot of time. She sat on top of her horse and never got in his way. Her horse fits her like a glove! A race is won by team effort and that team is awesome! Hats off to you little angel! Ride like you did with that run and you will be there again! GO CHAYNI!!!!!! |
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Location: kansas | Frodo - 2015-02-25 6:41 AM
Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
And like I said previously, I am probably one of those youth riders you are talking about depending on how long ago you want to go back. I had the horse of a life time when I was little, he (Kansas Poco Star AKA Feet) was 18 years old when I was 11 and I had a few years that I still dream about. BUT what you are saying is because I was a chubby little 11 year old, I should not have been able to run for more money, and possibly take yours because the only reason I was winning is because of my age? Not because my horse with or without me could out run most other horses!?!?!?
Plain and simple this is pure JEALOUSY and IGNORANCE! You are just jealous it isn't you or your child kicking butt!
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | i went and watched the video, and that horse really looks after that little girl.....and she stays out of his way and lets him work.....
notice how its not the actual competitors complaining but the couch jockeys....
a lady up this way complained last year at the abra finals (her kid is a youth) that the kids that rodeo shouldn't be allowed to run....i wanted to crotch kick her as well...............................
ITS AN OPEN BARREL RACE PPL.................
good luck to ALL the competitors, be they young or old
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| Frodo - 2015-02-25 6:41 AM Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
Wanted to add that I think everyone agrees that weight is factor, along with which ground you get to run on, how long you have been riding, whether you have a rodeo horse or a jackpot horse, male or female jockey, etc. That is the American Rodeo- open to anyone- no artificial controls on who gets to play, no controls to try and "even" the game. I love it.
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | Frodo - 2015-02-25 5:41 AM Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
As said many times on this thread, FloJo was ran by Chayni's Grandmother and Mother and they both have won some good money on the horse. I am sure they weigh just a little more than a 9 year old.
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | mruggles - 2015-02-25 8:21 AM i went and watched the video, and that horse really looks after that little girl.....and she stays out of his way and lets him work.....
notice how its not the actual competitors complaining but the couch jockeys....
a lady up this way complained last year at the abra finals (her kid is a youth) that the kids that rodeo shouldn't be allowed to run....i wanted to crotch kick her as well...............................
ITS AN OPEN BARREL RACE PPL.................
good luck to ALL the competitors, be they young or old
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| UTAHCANCHASER - 2015-02-25 9:26 AM Frodo - 2015-02-25 5:41 AM Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
As said many times on this thread, FloJo was ran by Chayni's Grandmother and Mother and they both have won some good money on the horse. I am sure they weigh just a little more than a 9 year old.
Weight does play a factor BUT I think being in tune with your horse and having great balance is an even bigger factor.
Ditto, if you look at her still pictures she is sitting so correct- that is what one the race. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | rodeomom3 - 2015-02-25 9:23 AM Frodo - 2015-02-25 6:41 AM Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
Wanted to add that I think everyone agrees that weight is factor, along with which ground you get to run on, how long you have been riding, whether you have a rodeo horse or a jackpot horse, male or female jockey, etc. That is the American Rodeo- open to anyone- no artificial controls on who gets to play, no controls to try and "even" the game. I love it.
Don't like the premise???? Don't go......stay some place where YOU can control the outcome of every race.....maybe run in your back yard against the neighbor????
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| Frodo - 2015-02-25 6:41 AM
Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
Back on page one you brought up WPRA and GRA and their rules. Now you bring up the Kentucky Derby and the NBHA and their rules SO WHAT. None of their rules apply. Chayni played by the rules. She (or her folks) put up their money and ran against all who entered and beat them simple as that. Ten pages of the ground was bad or kids should have a different division or this or that makes ZERO difference. All who entered played by the rules period. And when it was all over a little nine year old girl bet them all. I congratulate her and her folks. I think we are looking at one of the future super stars of barrel racing. I hope she wins it all.
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| Frodo - 2015-02-25 6:41 AM
Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
Just what exactly are you afraid of? Here in Texas and everywhere else in this great nation, most of us are striving to be the best we can be in competition. I will never be one of the best, but I durn sure love competing against them to see how I am progressing. I don't care what size they are. I have been beaten by bigger girls and littler ones. A couple of times I have outrun smaller riders. That is the beauty of rodeo competition, at least until here recently. Anyone could enter and have a shot at the money. At no other athletic competition was that even possible. I love watching the underdog win and it happens more in rodeo than any other sport. The American is just about the only rodeo that that is possible. I would pay more to go watch the American than any other big rodeo because of that. |
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Location: OH | GLP - 2015-02-25 11:52 AM Frodo - 2015-02-25 6:41 AM Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
Just what exactly are you afraid of? Here in Texas and everywhere else in this great nation, most of us are striving to be the best we can be in competition. I will never be one of the best, but I durn sure love competing against them to see how I am progressing. I don't care what size they are. I have been beaten by bigger girls and littler ones. A couple of times I have outrun smaller riders. That is the beauty of rodeo competition, at least until here recently. Anyone could enter and have a shot at the money. At no other athletic competition was that even possible. I love watching the underdog win and it happens more in rodeo than any other sport. The American is just about the only rodeo that that is possible. I would pay more to go watch the American than any other big rodeo because of that.
Whoever said anything about The American ever being an "even contest". Are we gonna start weighing riders and add weighted saddle pads to make everyone equal. WAIT---in TB racing if you ride a BUG, which is a novice rider you are allowed a lesser weight. So a young rider can weigh less. |
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| Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 11:04 AM
GLP - 2015-02-25 11:52 AM Frodo - 2015-02-25 6:41 AM Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
Just what exactly are you afraid of? Here in Texas and everywhere else in this great nation, most of us are striving to be the best we can be in competition. I will never be one of the best, but I durn sure love competing against them to see how I am progressing. I don't care what size they are. I have been beaten by bigger girls and littler ones. A couple of times I have outrun smaller riders. That is the beauty of rodeo competition, at least until here recently. Anyone could enter and have a shot at the money. At no other athletic competition was that even possible. I love watching the underdog win and it happens more in rodeo than any other sport. The American is just about the only rodeo that that is possible. I would pay more to go watch the American than any other big rodeo because of that.
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| I cannot believe some responses on here.. If this was your child you would be over-the-moon for them, yet when it is not you/your child you are b*tching about them.. Yes, she weighs less but she has the horsemanship to back it. She is not just sitting there while the horse does everything.. she is RIDING! All the people complaining about this have jealously issues they need help with and have probably been beaten by youth and are bitter about it.. Guess what rodeo isn't fair- never has been, never will be. How about we spend less time degrading the people in out sport and more time being happy for one another because they are all doing something WONDERFUL for our sport that EVERYONE wants.. Look at the big pictures and get over your insecurities.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Kids just get in and go. They dont think they are a trainer. They dont think "Hey, he has a tendency to drop his shoulder on the second so I need to really pick him up there" or any other thing. They dont over think anything, so they arent over riding, trying to dictate every little thing on their run. THAT is why they can get on these older seasoned horses and smoke everybody. They go WITH the horse and stay out of their way!! They just let that horse work and stay with him. The weight factor isnt the biggest factor AT ALL in why they win. As the old saying goes "Ignorance is bliss" is the biggest factor on their smoken times. |
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Location: MD | I remember back when I was in my teens I was running in Central FL and there was definitely a time that if you were over the age of 10, you were going to be hardpressed to win a barrel race. With Ally Sue Hayes and Jim's Imp, Tess Ducheneaux and Nell's Golden Girl and Marsee Ferguson on Boogie, we were pretty stacked with talents kids mounted on nice horses and they rode those suckers! No need to complain. I always thought that the fact that we were entering the OPEN kind of explained that we would be running against anyone who paid their EF. |
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Location: OH | Tatum2 - 2015-02-25 12:17 PM I cannot believe some responses on here.. If this was your child you would be over-the-moon for them, yet when it is not you/your child you are b*tching about them.. Yes, she weighs less but she has the horsemanship to back it. She is not just sitting there while the horse does everything.. she is RIDING! All the people complaining about this have jealously issues they need help with and have probably been beaten by youth and are bitter about it.. Guess what rodeo isn't fair- never has been, never will be. How about we spend less time degrading the people in out sport and more time being happy for one another because they are all doing something WONDERFUL for our sport that EVERYONE wants.. Look at the big pictures and get over your insecurities.
Exactly what I have been saying---you just said it a lot better. This is HUGE for our sport---NATIONAL EXPOSURE, barrel racing rarely gets that. |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | I am 29 years old and I think she's just the coolest cutest kid! I want her autograph.... shes so young and likely a better rider then I was or will ever be.
It's a barrel race... shes smaller then them but has loads stacked against her too. Other people have more experience, strength... maybe balance and practice (I don't know so I say maybe). I think it evens itself out personally. Let the girl do her thing and lets just support the next generation of riders and our sport getting some great recognition. |
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Location: OH | ThreeCorners - 2015-02-25 12:18 PM Kids just get in and go. They dont think they are a trainer. They dont think "Hey, he has a tendency to drop his shoulder on the second so I need to really pick him up there" or any other thing. They dont over think anything, so they arent over riding, trying to dictate every little thing on their run. THAT is why they can get on these older seasoned horses and smoke everybody. They go WITH the horse and stay out of their way!! They just let that horse work and stay with him. The weight factor isnt the biggest factor AT ALL in why they win. As the old saying goes "Ignorance is bliss" is the biggest factor on their smoken times.
Plus pressure----MOST kids are not effected by it, HOPEFULLY. This week truly has me worried though, I imagine she is getting pulled in a million different directions. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 11:04 AM GLP - 2015-02-25 11:52 AM Frodo - 2015-02-25 6:41 AM Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
Just what exactly are you afraid of? Here in Texas and everywhere else in this great nation, most of us are striving to be the best we can be in competition. I will never be one of the best, but I durn sure love competing against them to see how I am progressing. I don't care what size they are. I have been beaten by bigger girls and littler ones. A couple of times I have outrun smaller riders. That is the beauty of rodeo competition, at least until here recently. Anyone could enter and have a shot at the money. At no other athletic competition was that even possible. I love watching the underdog win and it happens more in rodeo than any other sport. The American is just about the only rodeo that that is possible. I would pay more to go watch the American than any other big rodeo because of that.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 11:23 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-02-25 12:18 PM Kids just get in and go. They dont think they are a trainer. They dont think "Hey, he has a tendency to drop his shoulder on the second so I need to really pick him up there" or any other thing. They dont over think anything, so they arent over riding, trying to dictate every little thing on their run. THAT is why they can get on these older seasoned horses and smoke everybody. They go WITH the horse and stay out of their way!! They just let that horse work and stay with him. The weight factor isnt the biggest factor AT ALL in why they win. As the old saying goes "Ignorance is bliss" is the biggest factor on their smoken times. Plus pressure----MOST kids are not effected by it, HOPEFULLY. This week truly has me worried though, I imagine she is getting pulled in a million different directions.
Exactly! They dont even really have any concept of money yet. They dont realize just how much money is $1 Million. Just like her interview when they asked if she had ever won a check as big as the $40,000 check and she went blank..........thought......blank........."Well I think so". $1000 would mean the same to her as $40,000 and $40,000 means the same as $1 million. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 11:04 AM GLP - 2015-02-25 11:52 AM Frodo - 2015-02-25 6:41 AM Soooooo if some racehorses in the Kentucky Derby were forced to carry an extra 100 lbs, you're saying it would still be an even contest? A little confused here. I remember in our NBHA group junior riders carrying off the trophy saddles every year. They didn't want anything to do with the junior division. There was more money in riding with heavier riders and their parents knew that very well.
Just what exactly are you afraid of? Here in Texas and everywhere else in this great nation, most of us are striving to be the best we can be in competition. I will never be one of the best, but I durn sure love competing against them to see how I am progressing. I don't care what size they are. I have been beaten by bigger girls and littler ones. A couple of times I have outrun smaller riders. That is the beauty of rodeo competition, at least until here recently. Anyone could enter and have a shot at the money. At no other athletic competition was that even possible. I love watching the underdog win and it happens more in rodeo than any other sport. The American is just about the only rodeo that that is possible. I would pay more to go watch the American than any other big rodeo because of that.
There are plenty of people that want to complain about running against children that given the opportunity at the same age with the same level of horsepower would never have accomplished this much. That little girl can ride. I am looking forward to seeing them compete on Sunday.
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Location: PNW | I get my butt handed to me (and so do ALL the adults in my area) on a regular basis by a ten year-old who can ride the hair off of anything. And I love it. She is one of the hardest working individuals I know, of any age, and she is absolutely killing it. She is the future of our sport, just like all the little ones running in The American. We should be over-the-moon that these kids are even TRYING, much less succeeding. They had the balls to enter qualifiers against people with YEARS, if not DECADES more experience than themselves.
And who gives a rip if they use a magic seat? They don't bestow you with natural talent and the benefits of hard work. They absorb some of the torque that comes from riding a powerful horse. They don't make your hands soft, don't position your hands for you, don't tell you when to rate, when to pick up, when to kick, when to whip, or when to sit down. They simply help a smaller, less powerful individual absorb some of the force of a powerful horse. So just stop.
This is The American. WPRA, GRA, NBHA, and Jockey Club rules don't apply, so your argument is useless and has nothing to do with the price of rice in China.
Be happy for these kids. If weight is that much of an issue for you and other people, buy a treadmill and eat like a rabbit. You're never going to weigh less than a 9 year old, so I would just give up on that dead horse now and roll it into the grave. Weight plays a part, absolutely; weight, just like a magic seat though - DOES NOT REPLACE NATURAL ABILITY OR HARD WORK. I am a pretty large person (5'11" and roughly 170 LBS) but I can out ride people that weigh less than me because I am fit, I work hard, and focus on my horsemanship and equitation versus just kicking and praying.
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | I just want to add that Chayni has made an impact on kids younger than her already. We have some really good friends and they are all very handy (mom and dad have made the circuit finals and have had horses go to the NFR). Anyway this little girl is only 4 or 5 and just started loping her moms old horse through the pattern. When she heard how old Chayni was she turned to her mom and said "I want to do that, how fast do I need to go!"
She may only be 9 but she is setting a great example for kids younger than her and use that are way older. I know I will be cheering for her. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | stayceem - 2015-02-22 10:58 AM Anyone know how FloJo is bred?
Here is a link to the article about her and the horse...........click on Feb 24th issue.
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| You keyboard jockeys can get your blood boiling some more......Chayni is now sitting 2nd at the Patriot invitational |
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Location: Beggs, OK | caboy61 - 2015-02-25 1:48 PM You keyboard jockeys can get your blood boiling some more......Chayni is now sitting 2nd at the Patriot invitational
Actually she's sitting 4th right now. There was a 4 and two 6's ahead of her. She had a nice run today. |
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Location: new bloomfield, pa | caboy61 - 2015-02-25 2:00 PM
One more difference between the kids you're whining about and bashing. They're out riding their horses, and YOU are behind a keyboard with 65,987 posts!!
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Location: Beggs, OK | UTAHCANCHASER - 2015-02-25 1:05 PM I just want to add that Chayni has made an impact on kids younger than her already. We have some really good friends and they are all very handy (mom and dad have made the circuit finals and have had horses go to the NFR). Anyway this little girl is only 4 or 5 and just started loping her moms old horse through the pattern. When she heard how old Chayni was she turned to her mom and said "I want to do that, how fast do I need to go!"
She may only be 9 but she is setting a great example for kids younger than her and use that are way older. I know I will be cheering for her.
My five year old is a huge fan of hers now! She's watched her American Semi Finals run over and over since Friday. |
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Location: PNW | lilcwgrll - 2015-02-25 1:52 PM
caboy61 - 2015-02-25 2:00 PM
One more difference between the kids you're whining about and bashing. They're out riding their horses, and YOU are behind a keyboard with 65,987 posts!!
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If you don't want to run against kids find a place that has age groups... Don't complain
If you don't like people who who send their horses to trainers.....don't complain. First of all a lot of people make their living training horses. MOST of the time they can fix your problem in a short period of time....I learned that 40 years ago. AND some people have very different goals for their horses than you might have.
If someone is wearing a helmet or using a magic seat and you are worried about it, you are not tending to your business or concentrating on YOUR run.
The people who train for a living and those who rodeo are not complaining.
Face book has gotten absolutely ridiculous. When I stuck up for one of the kids they attacked me. I use a magic seat, helmet and a trainer. Personally, I don't care but kids are a little more sensitive. 40+ year olds picking on kids is not a fair fight, and yes, it is bullying,at least where I come from.
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Location: Where I am happiest | rachellyn80 - 2015-02-25 1:51 PM caboy61 - 2015-02-25 1:48 PM You keyboard jockeys can get your blood boiling some more......Chayni is now sitting 2nd at the Patriot invitational Actually she's sitting 4th right now. There was a 4 and two 6's ahead of her. She had a nice run today.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Serious question.....who is picking on kids? I haven't seen it yet. I've seen a lot of sniping, envy, and signs of frustration, but I haven't seen any picking on kids or bullying kids. Someone show me. |
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Location: mn | caboy61 - 2015-02-25 1:48 PM You keyboard jockeys can get your blood boiling some more......Chayni is now sitting 2nd at the Patriot invitational
Whose blood is boiling?? I counted ONE post about kids having a weight advantage. |
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Location: mn | Bear - 2015-02-25 2:23 PM Serious question.....who is picking on kids? I haven't seen it yet. I've seen a lot of sniping, envy, and signs of frustration, but I haven't seen any picking on kids or bullying kids. Someone show me.
I agree. I read this from begining to end, saw one post made about kids having an advantage due to weight. Yet this thread is up to 12 pages of people squealing as if there's a group of people trying to have kids banned from the American.
Sometimes it must be fun to argue, even if there's nothing there.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Actually, it's those saying "stop bashing on the kids" that are doing the bashing and have taken up page after page with their posts to stop it. |
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Location: PNW | northerngirl - 2015-02-25 2:29 PM
Bear - 2015-02-25 2:23 PM Serious question.....who is picking on kids? I haven't seen it yet. I've seen a lot of sniping, envy, and signs of frustration, but I haven't seen any picking on kids or bullying kids. Someone show me.
I agree. I read this from begining to end, saw one post made about kids having an advantage due to weight. Yet this thread is up to 12 pages of people squealing as if there's a group of people trying to have kids banned from the American.
Sometimes it must be fun to argue, even if there's nothing there.
There was a FB post made by a couple of teenagers, a bunch of adults got into it and it got really nasty - I think many of the "kid bashing" comments are being spawned from that. There were also a few posts on here regarding young riders, magic seats, and adult tactics/motivations that have spawned some replies. |
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Location: Washington | Bear - 2015-02-25 12:23 PM Serious question.....who is picking on kids? I haven't seen it yet. I've seen a lot of sniping, envy, and signs of frustration, but I haven't seen any picking on kids or bullying kids. Someone show me.
There is none, the masses have issues with reading comprehension. What was pointed out were simply facts, and there is your debate not bullying. |
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| caboy61 - 2015-02-25 1:00 PM One more difference between the kids you're whining about and bashing. They're out riding their horses, and YOU are behind a keyboard with 65,987 posts!!
Best post I've EVER seen  Do you think she or even her parents for that matter spend their life on here? Probably not she/ they are probably working or something else productive |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Nevertooold - 2015-02-25 3:23 PM This is the perfect example of the dumbing down of America and like Fatchance said, reading comprehension.
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Location: Oregon | Bear - 2015-02-25 12:23 PM Serious question.....who is picking on kids? I haven't seen it yet. I've seen a lot of sniping, envy, and signs of frustration, but I haven't seen any picking on kids or bullying kids. Someone show me.
This! I see way more people complaining about people complaining about kids than people actually complaining about kids.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | fatchance - 2015-02-25 2:42 PM Bear - 2015-02-25 12:23 PM Serious question.....who is picking on kids? I haven't seen it yet. I've seen a lot of sniping, envy, and signs of frustration, but I haven't seen any picking on kids or bullying kids. Someone show me. There is none, the masses have issues with reading comprehension. What was pointed out were simply facts, and there is your debate not bullying.
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Location: mn | crapshooter - 2015-02-25 3:26 PM Bear - 2015-02-25 12:23 PM Serious question.....who is picking on kids? I haven't seen it yet. I've seen a lot of sniping, envy, and signs of frustration, but I haven't seen any picking on kids or bullying kids. Someone show me. This! I see way more people complaining about people complaining about kids than people actually complaining about kids.
"Everyone" doesn't hate kids winning a barrel race.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | And the Barrel Horse World keeps turning. |
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Location: Oregon | Nevertooold - 2015-02-25 2:25 PM
And the Barrel Horse World keeps turning.
that's why I don't usually partake. Blood pressure ya know, I'm old. |
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| Justin McKee just said on RFD-TV's Road to the American showe that ESPN would be at Chayni's house tomorrow to interview her. Very exciting! |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | sodapop - 2015-02-25 8:09 PM Justin McKee just said on RFD-TV's Road to the American showe that ESPN would be at Chayni's house tomorrow to interview her. Very exciting!
do you know a time? I see I have a bunch of ESPN channels, just the regular one? |
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| lilcwgrll - 2015-02-25 1:52 PM
caboy61 - 2015-02-25 2:00 PM
One more difference between the kids you're whining about and bashing. They're out riding their horses, and YOU are behind a keyboard with 65,987 posts!!
Please don't run down others. It only makes you look bad. That added with intolerable grammar drives me to distraction.
Many years ago I won all over the place and if anyone ever beat me they won fair and square. Now I really stink. Everybody beats me, but I don't pretend to be good and I certainly don't run others down to make myself look better. If you want to be as good as some one else go to a clinic, learn to do things right, and get the proper work ethic to get you there. Need a better horse? Get an education so that you can afford one in the future. You create your own destiny so go to work on it.
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| Chayni just gave a great interview and I loved the conversation between her and June! This is going to be a great barrel race no matter who wins! |
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| Nevertooold - 2015-02-25 3:25 PM And the Barrel Horse World keeps turning. Kinda creepy isn't it? I wonder how some threads like these get zapped immediately and others are allowed to expand and linger......... it's almost like watching Fox News-
eta: I imagine the "mod" is waiting for the opportunity to sweep in like an ethical hero and freeze the thread at just the right moment when he/she feels they have an opportunity to look stunningly important around here.
Go Chayni! :)
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I can tell you guys one thing for sure... I CAN NOT WAIT to put my grandaughter on my horse and watch her go out there and WIN! I am happy for them, what a story they will have to tell future generations... And what a neat blessing!
Guess I'm seeing a glimpse of what Stormy and Cassidy have to look forward to, lol.
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| CYA Ranch - 2015-02-25 8:31 PM sodapop - 2015-02-25 8:09 PM Justin McKee just said on RFD-TV's Road to the American showe that ESPN would be at Chayni's house tomorrow to interview her. Very exciting! do you know a time? I see I have a bunch of ESPN channels, just the regular one?
No. The airing time wasn't mentioned. He just mentioned they would be at her home interviewing her tomorrow. I don't know how soon they would air it. I don't know which ESPN show either. |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | 3rdtimesacharm - 2015-02-22 7:36 PM If weight were that big of a factor the men wouldn't do as well
Weight is a huge factor. You are not very educated if you dont know that. And yes, many men and women, too are seriously handicapped by weight. I personally do not think kids under 18 should be allowed to enter, because of the serious weight issue. That being said, the rules do say open to the world, and that's the bottom line. |
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| It's incredibly sad to watch the reactions of some people regarding the contestants on the road to the American. This rodeo is supposed to bring POSITIVE exposure to the sport yet some people are just wanting to bash anyone that's not fitting that "WPRA Barrel Racer" mold. Like many have said before, this rodeo is designed to pin underdogs against the top guns that most of us do not have the opportunity to compete against. I'm glad this opportunity is open to people from all walks of life, breaking down the barriers of segregation in this sport because there are some great competitors out there that do not get this chance at all to compete.
Youth Participants: I personally love watching talented youth compete at such a huge level. Watching Chayni dominate with Flo Jo sort of reminded me of the days when Charmayne would bring out her feed lot wonder and best the field of professionals. Reading the interview with Chayni's mother in the Barrel Racing Report, I have a lot of respect for their family. Chayni grew up with Flo Jo and when they started to compete together he would lope through the pattern with her, going at the speed she needed. I love stories like that, of horse and child growing up together and doing incredible things. Especially when you have the kid ride quieter than most adults (including myself unfortunately) and be a true pilot on her horse. This opportunity is fantastic for youth, and when people say they cant appreciate the money, I'm pretty sure the parents are thinking about college. The check from the Semi Finals is equivalent to a year at a great school. Plus if youth were never allowed to compete at this level until they were 18, would Charmayne, Fallon or Rachel M. have the name that they do now?
Male Participants: Being a male competitor, we're limited to divisional races and aged events. I love this opportunity to showcase what men have top offer the barrel racing industry. Last year I read posts on Facebook where a well known professional bashed the involvement of men in this event, and I lost a TON of respect for her. Men have always had a strong presence in the sport but they don't always get the recognition that they deserve. Troy Crumrine is a true hero of mine, not only is he one of the top earning riders of the decade, but he has trained some incredible horses like Mulberry who won rounds at the NFR and he is one of the most down to earth individuals you'll ever meet. Ryan Lovendahl is a true professional that has had his hands on several horses that has gone down the tunnel at the NFR. Not only did he train Blazin Jetolena, he had his hands on Sheza Blazin Move, and STINGRAY. Theres male riders all across the country heating up the arena like Kelly Conrado (ran Skye before the Mcleods), Pete Oen, Mark Bugni, Lance Graves, Talmadge, Mike Green, Craig Brooks and more. If these guys can have your respect in other arenas, why can't you give them the chance at this.
Yeah, you might not be happy with the presence of some of these competitors (heck there's some that I have 0 respect for), but if you have the $500 to drop on entries, the horse power and a will to win, take the gamble of entering. If I had the horse I'd do it, as well as many of those couch jockeys out there. Let's be thankful for the opportunity provided by Randy Bernard and RFDTV for this rodeo, as there is nothing comparable to it, nor will there be for a while.... |
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| 13 pages of this....The rules are that everyone who has the means and guts to enter can enter. Everone. E.V.E.R.Y.O.N.E. You have to be able to ride the high caliber horse no matter what size you happen to be. That takes talent. The whole point of the American is to allow the underdogs to have their chance...but not those **** feather-light kids, apparently. This show has brought some positive recognition to the sport and I'm glad that the negative opinions here have no bearing on the rules...at least I hope not. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | sodapop - 2015-02-25 10:32 PM CYA Ranch - 2015-02-25 8:31 PM sodapop - 2015-02-25 8:09 PM Justin McKee just said on RFD-TV's Road to the American showe that ESPN would be at Chayni's house tomorrow to interview her. Very exciting! do you know a time? I see I have a bunch of ESPN channels, just the regular one?
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Location: Where I am happiest | dcourt8 - 2015-02-26 12:53 AM
It's incredibly sad to watch the reactions of some people regarding the contestants on the road to the American. This rodeo is supposed to bring POSITIVE exposure to the sport yet some people are just wanting to bash anyone that's not fitting that "WPRA Barrel Racer" mold. Like many have said before, this rodeo is designed to pin underdogs against the top guns that most of us do not have the opportunity to compete against. I'm glad this opportunity is open to people from all walks of life, breaking down the barriers of segregation in this sport because there are some great competitors out there that do not get this chance at all to compete.
Youth Participants: I personally love watching talented youth compete at such a huge level. Watching Chayni dominate with Flo Jo sort of reminded me of the days when Charmayne would bring out her feed lot wonder and best the field of professionals. Reading the interview with Chayni's mother in the Barrel Racing Report, I have a lot of respect for their family. Chayni grew up with Flo Jo and when they started to compete together he would lope through the pattern with her, going at the speed she needed. I love stories like that, of horse and child growing up together and doing incredible things. Especially when you have the kid ride quieter than most adults (including myself unfortunately) and be a true pilot on her horse. This opportunity is fantastic for youth, and when people say they cant appreciate the money, I'm pretty sure the parents are thinking about college. The check from the Semi Finals is equivalent to a year at a great school. Plus if youth were never allowed to compete at this level until they were 18, would Charmayne, Fallon or Rachel M. have the name that they do now?
Male Participants: Being a male competitor, we're limited to divisional races and aged events. I love this opportunity to showcase what men have top offer the barrel racing industry. Last year I read posts on Facebook where a well known professional bashed the involvement of men in this event, and I lost a TON of respect for her. Men have always had a strong presence in the sport but they don't always get the recognition that they deserve. Troy Crumrine is a true hero of mine, not only is he one of the top earning riders of the decade, but he has trained some incredible horses like Mulberry who won rounds at the NFR and he is one of the most down to earth individuals you'll ever meet. Ryan Lovendahl is a true professional that has had his hands on several horses that has gone down the tunnel at the NFR. Not only did he train Blazin Jetolena, he had his hands on Sheza Blazin Move, and STINGRAY. Theres male riders all across the country heating up the arena like Kelly Conrado (ran Skye before the Mcleods), Pete Oen, Mark Bugni, Lance Graves, Talmadge, Mike Green, Craig Brooks and more. If these guys can have your respect in other arenas, why can't you give them the chance at this.
Yeah, you might not be happy with the presence of some of these competitors (heck there's some that I have 0 respect for), but if you have the $500 to drop on entries, the horse power and a will to win, take the gamble of entering. If I had the horse I'd do it, as well as many of those couch jockeys out there. Let's be thankful for the opportunity provided by Randy Bernard and RFDTV for this rodeo, as there is nothing comparable to it, nor will there be for a while....
*** Tap tap tap*** tap tap tap*** Appearantly my computer is broke and it's only showing me a few posts???? 13 pages of how dare anybody run these kids down or men down and that's all I am able to see? Can someone please fix this thread? Because again, appearantly there is a whole lot of bashing and running people down in this thread that is just not showing up in my feed to see. Quick, when someone posts all those bashing running people down please very fast quote it so maybe I can see it.
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Location: North Dakota | Let's not forget about 13yr old American qualifier, MN native Adeline Nevala on her family raised and trained mare, Willow! This is another little girl that can ride! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Just Bring It - 2015-02-26 8:11 AM Let's not forget about 13yr old American qualifier, MN native Adeline Nevala on her family raised and trained mare, Willow! This is another little girl that can ride!
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| YIKES..... "some" of you need to get off the computer and do something productive, shame on you! |
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| Just Bring It - 2015-02-26 8:11 AM
Let's not forget about 13yr old American qualifier, MN native Adeline Nevala on her family raised and trained mare, Willow! This is another little girl that can ride!
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| And the 16 year old I don't remember her name. We all know how the media likes to pick a golden child and run with it. That is what we are seeing. The little girl can ride no better than a million other kids, she is not mounted any better than a million other kids she just happens to be the one the media picked up on. Lets wish her luck and get on with our life.  What about the weather. It's so cold I'm ready for some warm weather so we can ride. Turn and Burn lets rock and roll joll. Enjoy your weekend. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Just Bring It - 2015-02-26 8:11 AM Let's not forget about 13yr old American qualifier, MN native Adeline Nevala on her family raised and trained mare, Willow! This is another little girl that can ride! She sure can and so can her mother!
And I posted earlier that Adeline, Jaci Etbauer and Rainey Skelton (her horse fell down in the slack) are all great little hands with rodeo parents behind them that taught them right.
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| I think this is the newest ESPN article on Chayni. There are pictures as well. In the article it says she will be featured on SportsCenter Saturday I think.
http://www.espnfrontrow.com/2015/02/sportscenter-crew-wrangles-together-story-on-nine-year-old-chayni-chamberlain/
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Randy Bernard posted on his twitter page that Chayni's interview would show tonight (Friday) on SportsCenter in just a few minutes. |
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Location: Texas | Ok, I taped and fast forwarded thru 2 hours of Sports Center. Did I miss it? |
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Location: AR & OK | Nevertooold - 2015-02-27 6:23 PM Just Bring It - 2015-02-26 8:11 AM Let's not forget about 13yr old American qualifier, MN native Adeline Nevala on her family raised and trained mare, Willow! This is another little girl that can ride! She sure can and so can her mother!
And I posted earlier that Adeline, Jaci Etbauer and Rainey Skelton (her horse fell down in the slack) are all great little hands with rodeo parents behind them that taught them right.
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| RocketPilot - 2015-02-27 10:14 PM
Ok, I taped and fast forwarded thru 2 hours of Sports Center. Did I miss it?
I don't know. I wasn't able to watch. I wonder if he was wrong about it being on tonight. I thought I read in the article that it would be Saturday. |
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Location: Sherman, TX | RFD-TV posted on Facebook that they saw it on Friday night. I just missed it....dvr'ed later Sportcenters and didn't catch it... |
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Location: oklahoma | There's a great interview with her and her parents on ESPN fb page. |
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Location: Sherman, TX | ESPN will be at the stadium Sunday too to do another story on her... |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | The weather up in the FT. Worth and Dallas area is horrible. Prayers no one gets hurt trying to get there to compete or watch. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Here's the interview.........
http://m.espn.go.com/wireless/relatedvideos?id=12397890&backText=9-Year-Old%20Barrel%20Racing%20Phenom%20Chayni%20Chamberlain%20-%20Video%20-%20ESPN&back=http%3A%2F%2Fm.espn.go.com%2Fwireless%2Frelatedvideos%3Fid%3D12397890%26backText%3DVideo%2BHub%2B-%2BESPN%26back%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fm.espn.go.com%252Fgeneral%252Fvideo%253Fvid%253D12397890%2526src%253Ddesktop%2526rand%253Dref%257E%25257B%252522ref%252522%25253A%252522http%25253A%25252F%25252Fm.facebook.com%252522%25257D |
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Location: The Great Northwest | Awsome exerience for her! She'll be back and we will remember her as the awsome 9 year old that stole our hearts! |
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Location: Texas | This little girl has stolen my heart! I just can't help but smile listening to her interviews and watching her ride!
I am very happy for her, she rides great, has had awesome runs and is adorable! This will not be the last time we see Chayni! |
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| Did anyone else see that when they showed her interview before she ran and when they cut to her the look she had on her face was absolute terror. I was so nervous for her after that! That's alot to take in as a nine year old! |
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Location: Texas! | Tatum2 - 2015-03-02 7:29 AM
Did anyone else see that when they showed her interview before she ran and when they cut to her the look she had on her face was absolute terror. I was so nervous for her after that! That's alot to take in as a nine year old!
We did she looked terrified. I bet she was relieved when it was over. She did great. |
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