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Location: Wisconsin |  But WHY oh WHY didn't he get the death penalty...someone told me TX has that, maybe not..I'm just glad for his wife and kids sake justice was served today. Just had to share! |
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Location: Central Texas | Yes, we have the death penalty here in Texas. I am not sure if they have disclosed why it wasn't sought in his case. |
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| For one thing, the price of the death penalty is way more than living life in prison. And personally, I'd rather have him be given to the wolves in prison than having death be his easy way out. He can burn after he gets his treatment in prison. |
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Location: Kentucky | Nateracer - 2015-02-25 9:00 AM For one thing, the price of the death penalty is way more than living life in prison. And personally, I'd rather have him be given to the wolves in prison than having death be his easy way out. He can burn after he gets his treatment in prison.
I agree. If they don't keep him in solitary, I bet someone on the inside will take care of him. |
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Location: That part of Texas | I haven't read anything from the prosecutors on why they didn't seek the death penalty but as an ex-prosecutor in Texas, I can speculate a few reasons as to why they probably didn't.
First, the cost of a death peanlty trial in a county of around 40,000 people could possibly bankrupt that county if they are not in one of the capital murder pools that counties in Texas pay to be in as a sort of hedge against having one of these trials there. Believe it or not, there are some counties in Texas who couldn't have a death penalty case because they simply cannot afford to fund one. Other counties elect to pay a certain dollar amount each year to a fund/pool that helps cover costs if it arises in their area. Last year Erath paid a total of $260K in indigient attorney fee expenses -- that's for all court appointed cases in that county. That amount would be a drop in the bucket for a capital murder case in where normal expenses can run from $500K-5 million.
Secondly, there were already issues of venue and jury choice clouding the ability to be able to pick a jury in this case due to it's high profile nature. Add in the fact that you have to find 12 people who can consider both the maximum and minimum range of punishment in a death penalty case = you are making it much, much harder to even qualify people to serve on that jury. Finding people who qualify on that issue alone -- punishment range -- on a normal death penalty case is hard. When it gets down to it, many people cannot handle the responsibility of personally handing down a death sentence to another human being. Could you? Could you really look at someone you don't know and say, "Yup, I'm going to vote to elect to kill him. No qualms about it." It's easy to say when you are not in that position but when it becomes real, it's a different matter.
Third, prosecutors were already having to combat an insanity/mental defense added in the mix that would further complicate getting a death penalty verdict. It's one thing to look at someone to see if they were mentally competent when it just involves them going to jail for the rest of their lives. It's another when you are looking at ending their life over it. It makes it tougher for 12 people to come to a unanimous decision on ending a life when it's involved.
Finally, the reason why they didn't seek the death penalty may have also had to do with the wishes of the victim's family. Who knows whether or not they may have asked that Routh not be killed over this. It's a complicated deal. If they did, this would probably factor in least in the death penatly decision but it might have been there.
So in a nutshell, (1) Cost (2) Complication in qualifying a jury (3) Complication in reaching a unanimous verdict and (4) possibly victim family request, may have all played a part in why the death penalty was not sought.
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Location: NC | I can't stand how they're calling it the 'American Sniper Case'.
Chris Kyle. Chad Littlefield.
They have names dangit. Use them.
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Location: Online | I'm actually surprised. I figured Obama and Holder would stick their noses in it and get him off on some "technicality". While pretending to care about soldiers with PTSD.
I am very relieved and he will get what's coming to him in prison. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | He will get his, death penalty or not. |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | Thank God! I wish they could fry him.
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Location: Wisconsin | RED RAIDER...thanks for that post!!! Regardless I don't see him living real long though in prison |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Murphy - 2015-02-25 8:10 AM Nateracer - 2015-02-25 9:00 AM For one thing, the price of the death penalty is way more than living life in prison. And personally, I'd rather have him be given to the wolves in prison than having death be his easy way out. He can burn after he gets his treatment in prison. I agree. If they don't keep him in solitary, I bet someone on the inside will take care of him.
Ditto , to me death would be to good for him, he needs to live the prison life, I bet when some of the guys get threw with him he will be wishing he got death. |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | Southtxponygirl - 2015-02-25 9:33 AM
Murphy - 2015-02-25 8:10 AM Nateracer - 2015-02-25 9:00 AM For one thing, the price of the death penalty is way more than living life in prison. And personally, I'd rather have him be given to the wolves in prison than having death be his easy way out. He can burn after he gets his treatment in prison. I agree. If they don't keep him in solitary, I bet someone on the inside will take care of him.
Do you think they'll let him in general population or keep him in solitary confinement? if he goes to gen pop he'll get his execution and it won't cost the state thousands of dollars! |
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| Red Raider, thanks for that explanation, I had no idea! I always figured it would be cheaper to fry them than to feed them forever. |
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Location: That part of Texas | painthorse7796 - 2015-02-25 10:26 AM RED RAIDER...thanks for that post!!! Regardless I don't see him living real long though in prison
Trust me, he's going to be well protected in prison. I'm glad for that too. I don't want his family to be able to capitalize off of a lawsuit for his murder if TDCJ doesn't provide adequate protection for him. He's not going to be hurt. |
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Location: That part of Texas | Griz - 2015-02-25 10:42 AM Red Raider, thanks for that explanation, I had no idea! I always figured it would be cheaper to fry them than to feed them forever.
It's about $50 per day or around $18-19K a year to house them. If you up that estimate to $20K, it would be about $800K to house him for 40 years. |
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Location: Texas | I have avoided posting on these posts because I had been summoned for this trial. Thankfully, I was WAY down the list.
Red Raider is right. The reason the death penalty was not sought was because of cost. The trial cost our county at least $1 million. Erath County is NOT a wealthy county. The appeals process would bankrupt our county.
It was also uncovered during the trial that Routh had received almost $100,000 in VA benefits while in prison. He had a court-appointed, taxpayer paid legal team. A family member let it slip that some of the money his sister used as a downpayment on a house. Not sure where more of it went, but his mother admitted that there was only about $30,000 in the bank. The judge highly encouraged them not to touch any more of it. I am betting the county goes after the Routh family for the legal fees.
If you want to read a blog that was kept during the trial, students at Tarleton State posted on www.texannews.net. You can read all the posts from the trial. Also, the site will eventually post video of the trial. I believe it will be from the overflow room because cameras were not allowed in court.
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | this just get me so dam mad...........i have deleted more times trying to say what i want and i just get madder.........i hope this man has a special place in he!! ............
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | Nateracer - 2015-02-25 7:18 AM This is . But I feel like they never did get the answer to why he did it.
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | rodeomom13 - 2015-02-25 8:58 AM I'm actually surprised. I figured Obama and Holder would stick their noses in it and get him off on some "technicality". While pretending to care about soldiers with PTSD.
I am very relieved and he will get what's coming to him in prison.
He never saw combat. He does not have PTSD. He did convert to ****lam. |
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Location: Online | GoGaited - 2015-02-25 12:00 PM
rodeomom13 - 2015-02-25 8:58 AM I'm actually surprised. I figured Obama and Holder would stick their noses in it and get him off on some "technicality". While pretending to care about soldiers with PTSD.
I am very relieved and he will get what's coming to him in prison.
He never saw combat. He does not have PTSD. He did convert to ****lam.
Regardless, he's a messed up individual. Someone like him, just serving in Iraq, whether he saw combat or not, could claim the disorder. The bleeding heart liberals reported him as having PTSD. That's how they were trying to make the case for him shooting Kyle and his buddy. So glad he's going to rot in prison, then they should show the movie when he gets there....
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Eddie Ray Routh GUILTY!!!