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Location: ND | I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. |
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Location: OH | SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home.
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| SaraJean - 2015-02-25 1:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home.
Exactly and how about lets throw in there the size of a mans--------------
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Location: ND | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 12:34 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. SaraJean---this is exactly my point. This was meant as a joke. LOL
Oh i know it! It's just crazy to me though....I don't get why people want rules & regulations on everything. Why can't things just be what they are & people actually have fun instead of whining about everything? |
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Location: OH | suzy2qtee - 2015-02-25 2:34 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 1:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. Exactly and how about lets throw in there the size of a mans--------------
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BAHAHAHA---now that's funny. Wow, there are still people that have a sense of humor on here. |
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Location: OH | SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:39 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 12:34 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. SaraJean---this is exactly my point. This was meant as a joke. LOL
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | I really don't know what the deal is about stepping on the scales in public. It's not like you can hide part of yourself and keep it a secret.
How do they handle weight on the race track? Do they level the playing field there in regards to weight?
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Location: OH | I may even have a rule where we take someones $ 50,000 horse off of them and give it to someone else that has a $ 1000 horse cuz---well, that just ain't fair. Man, I am on a roll. |
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Location: OH | Fairweather - 2015-02-25 2:42 PM I really don't know what the deal is about stepping on the scales in public. It's not like you can hide part of yourself and keep it a secret.
How do they handle weight on the race track? Do they level the playing field there in regards to weight?
If the race is a handicap, they add weight to the saddle pad. |
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Location: ND | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 12:41 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:39 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 12:34 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. SaraJean---this is exactly my point. This was meant as a joke. LOL
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Fairweather - 2015-02-25 1:42 PM I really don't know what the deal is about stepping on the scales in public. It's not like you can hide part of yourself and keep it a secret.
How do they handle weight on the race track? Do they level the playing field there in regards to weight?
Jock's weigh in before and after a race... Unless you have a crooked clerk of scales and falsifies the weight of some of the jocks. |
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Location: PNW | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 1:41 PM
SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:39 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 12:34 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. SaraJean---this is exactly my point. This was meant as a joke. LOL
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Location: kansas | SaraJean - 2015-02-25 1:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. HAHA! 
That is exactly what I wrote on the other board, thank goodness it is a family horse or someone would be griping that not only is she small, but her family bought their way to the top!
GET OVER YOURSELVES PEOPLE!
And guess what, even with those $50,000 plus horses there would STILL be people in the 4d!
Also..... Does that mean we can have barrel races by horses size? My 1D cutting bred horse is a pony, so it isn't fair I have to run her against track horses is it?!?!?! LOL!
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Location: OH | RaNdI sUe - 2015-02-25 3:07 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 1:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. HAHA!
That is exactly what I wrote on the other board, thank goodness it is a family horse or someone would be griping that not only is she small, but her family bought their way to the top!
GET OVER YOURSELVES PEOPLE!
And guess what, even with those $50,000 plus horses there would STILL be people in the 4d!
Also..... Does that mean we can have barrel races by horses size? My 1D cutting bred horse is a pony, so it isn't fair I have to run her against track horses is it?!?!?! LOL!
OH WOW---this is great. We could have a miltitude of combinations---kind of like a Conditions Book when you are entering at the racetrack. Horse has to be under 15 hands with a rider 100 lbs to 150 lbs or another one where the horse can be 15-2 and the jockey under 100lbs---the combinations could be endless. Heck, I may even write a race for a 15-4 hand horse. |
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Location: OH | LRQHS - 2015-02-25 3:16 PM Whatever, I'd totally bulk up even more for the 250+ club......you fat girls are going D-O-W-N!!! Believe that :)
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I'd be the Sumo wrestler of the barrel world.....eating Twinkies and Bon Bon's before every race......asking the weigher, "did I make it? Tell me I made it! I can put on some beer weight really fast! Just give me another minute!" |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 2:19 PM LRQHS - 2015-02-25 3:16 PM Whatever, I'd totally bulk up even more for the 250+ club......you fat girls are going D-O-W-N!!! Believe that :) HEY---what about guys ?????
Bring it, Porky! I'd have to use a Hoyer Lift to be placed on my sway backed horse lol. |
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Location: Sperry, OK | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 1:41 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:39 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 12:34 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. SaraJean---this is exactly my point. This was meant as a joke. LOL
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Location: kansas | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 2:14 PM RaNdI sUe - 2015-02-25 3:07 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 1:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. HAHA!
That is exactly what I wrote on the other board, thank goodness it is a family horse or someone would be griping that not only is she small, but her family bought their way to the top!
GET OVER YOURSELVES PEOPLE!
And guess what, even with those $50,000 plus horses there would STILL be people in the 4d!
Also..... Does that mean we can have barrel races by horses size? My 1D cutting bred horse is a pony, so it isn't fair I have to run her against track horses is it?!?!?! LOL!
where the horse can be 15-2 and the jockey under 100lbs---the combinations could be endless. Heck, I may even write a race for a 15-4 hand horse.
I think we could start our own barrel racing association... We could get every single nit picky b*tchy barrel racer there is. And if there isn't a 'combination' for them we just make one, ON THE SPOT! Because after all, everyone deserves to be a winner!  
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In the sport I do now, NATRC Distance Competitive Trail (I quit running barrels when I retired my guy...I discovered I like riding 30 miles in a day for some reason)...We do have weight divisions. It's a cavalry based sport riding distances of 20-30 miles per day over a weekend with vet checks and obstacles thrown in. It's timed...but not a race. If you come in outside of the time window allowed either too fast or slow...you lose points.
Any rate we have weight divisions of Heavy weight and Light weight. HeavyWt. is tack and rider over 190#....Tack and rider 190# or less is LightWt.
The reasoning being that the horses that carry more weight over that distance may be more stressed and therefore should be judged in a separate division. At the end though there is one top Sweepstakes (Hi point) horse from Heavy/Light/Junior divisions combined.
It works well for distance sports. And often the horse in the HeavyWt class still beats out the light and junior rider horses. It's not what you weigh as much as it is how balanced you ride and take care of your horse.
I know this was posed in jest...and the posts are making me laugh! Just wanted to toss out there that even in sports that DO this...it all comes down to how well the person rides and the quality/conditioning/training of their horse. (Not the cost...as that doesn't always correlate!) |
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Location: OH | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2015-02-25 3:24 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 1:41 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:39 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 12:34 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. SaraJean---this is exactly my point. This was meant as a joke. LOL
NO NO---the other contestants would have to pay the entries for the ones that cannot afford to enter. DUH---LOL. |
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Location: PNW | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 2:19 PM
LRQHS - 2015-02-25 3:16 PM Whatever, I'd totally bulk up even more for the 250+ club......you fat girls are going D-O-W-N!!! Believe that :)
HEY---what about guys ?????
Boys would have to have their own fat class. Fair is fair. |
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Location: Sperry, OK | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 2:27 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2015-02-25 3:24 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 1:41 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:39 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 12:34 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. SaraJean---this is exactly my point. This was meant as a joke. LOL
Well, as long as I get to compete and it doesn't cost me anything... I'm in! Hahaha! |
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Location: N Texas | SaraJean - 2015-02-25 1:30 PM
I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home.
You don't hear the people who win everything complain about it being "fair"...just the people who know they don't stand a chance, so want the tough competition eliminated so they win by default. I personally know I'll never be able to hold my own against the big dogs, and everyone would have to hit a barrel for me to win the 1D, but I accept this and still compete for the pure fun of it (and keep my fingers crossed that I may bring home a check-- I'm totally fine with 5D money!)
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Location: OH | svincent - 2015-02-25 3:36 PM And trainers will have to donate training time to those that can't afford their services right?
Well actually---I was thinking that the people that win will have to give free lessons to the people that don't in order to help them better themselves. |
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Location: N Texas | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 1:43 PM
I may even have a rule where we take someones $ 50,000 horse off of them and give it to someone else that has a $ 1000 horse cuz---well, that just ain't fair. Man, I am on a roll.
Yep, give them the $50k horse, pay their entry fees, AND give them a buckle just for showing up!! |
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Location: London Ontario | I also don't think that I should have to carry more weight around(handicapped) because of other people. I work my tushy off to be in awesome shape! There is nothing wrong with other people weighing more then me, but I shouldn't be penalized because of it. We are all BEAUTIFUL no matter what our size:) |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Why should female horses have to run against male horses. That not fair either. Its no wonder why there are no male barrel racers on female horses because they just can control that female mind. |
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Location: OH | BS Hauler - 2015-02-25 3:50 PM Why should female horses have to run against male horses. That not fair either. Its no wonder why there are no male barrel racers on female horses because they just can control that female mind.
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Location: Kansas | LRQHS - 2015-02-25 2:16 PM Whatever, I'd totally bulk up even more for the 250+ club......you fat girls are going D-O-W-N!!! Believe that :)
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| Fairweather - 2015-02-25 2:42 PM I really don't know what the deal is about stepping on the scales in public. It's not like you can hide part of yourself and keep it a secret.
How do they handle weight on the race track? Do they level the playing field there in regards to weight?
yes they they handicap them if rider does not make the wt he is supposed to carry they have lead wt the put in pockey of blankey
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Location: Montana | BS Hauler - 2015-02-25 1:50 PM Why should female horses have to run against male horses. That not fair either. Its no wonder why there are no male barrel racers on female horses because they just can control that female mind.
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| ACEINTHEHOLE - 2015-02-25 2:24 PM
Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 1:41 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:39 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 12:34 PM SaraJean - 2015-02-25 2:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home. SaraJean---this is exactly my point. This was meant as a joke. LOL
When I ran the paint in my avatar at the Reunion at Joseys, I am sure that I was riding about the cheapest horse there. It was also his first barrel race ever. Picked him up from the trainer on Wed. Ran on Fri. He went on to become Res. World Champion in poles. I am sure that there were some horses that were in the six figure range--mine was in the three figure range.. My suggestion is that if you don't want to run with the big boys, don't.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Well while we are at it, you also should eliminate all Dash Ta Fames, Firewater Flits, Frenchmans Guys, ( Goes for grand get on these also) Designer Reds, and A Streak Of Flings. or maybe we should also add no horse allowed who's sire stands for more then $1000. That should about do it.  |
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Location: In a happy place | SaraJean - 2015-02-25 1:30 PM I want to know when everything in life got about being fair. Next qualifications could be that you only have to compete against horses in the same price range as yours so those of use with $5000 horses don't have to run against $50,000 horses. And then maybe those that can afford trainers should have a class seporate from those who train their own.....NOTHING in life is fair so I don't get why so many make such a big deal about wanting a fair chance against their competition. Nobody is forcing anyone else to compete, so if you don't like the playing field & rules....stay home.
Sounds like some more of the Obama mentality....Lets make everything equal. That makes a lot of sense. NOT |
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Location: OH | ThreeCorners - 2015-02-25 4:16 PM Well while we are at it, you also should eliminate all Dash Ta Fames, Firewater Flits, Frenchmans Guys, ( Goes for grand get on these also) Designer Reds, and A Streak Of Flings. or maybe we should also add no horse allowed who's sire stands for more then $1000. That should about do it.
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Location: Where I am happiest | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 3:22 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-02-25 4:16 PM Well while we are at it, you also should eliminate all Dash Ta Fames, Firewater Flits, Frenchmans Guys, ( Goes for grand get on these also) Designer Reds, and A Streak Of Flings. or maybe we should also add no horse allowed who's sire stands for more then $1000. That should about do it.
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | Lol you guys crack me up. Can you imagine the b****ing that would go on then because the pots would have to be split up 50 million timesand be smaller or if producers kept a bigger cut because of all the extra work involved. Or of if entry fees had to go up because of it. Or or... I can go on and on. |
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Location: OH | ndiehl - 2015-02-25 4:27 PM Lol you guys crack me up. Can you imagine the b****ing that would go on then because the pots would have to be split up 50 million timesand be smaller or if producers kept a bigger cut because of all the extra work involved. Or of if entry fees had to go up because of it. Or or... I can go on and on.
YEP---let em b*****h away. I have been at this for a long long time and barrel racing RIGHT NOW is better than it has ever been---people sometimes just get to ignorant to see it. |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 3:30 PM
ndiehl - 2015-02-25 4:27 PM Lol you guys crack me up. Can you imagine the b****ing that would go on then because the pots would have to be split up 50 million timesand be smaller or if producers kept a bigger cut because of all the extra work involved. Or of if entry fees had to go up because of it. Or or... I can go on and on.
YEP---let em b*****h away. I have been at this for a long long time and barrel racing RIGHT NOW is better than it has ever been---people sometimes just get to ignorant to see it.
I know. I have gotten really excited about it over the last few years, so many different and new opportunities now. |
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | ThreeCorners - 2015-02-25 3:16 PM Well while we are at it, you also should eliminate all Dash Ta Fames, Firewater Flits, Frenchmans Guys, ( Goes for grand get on these also) Designer Reds, and A Streak Of Flings. or maybe we should also add no horse allowed who's sire stands for more then $1000. That should about do it.
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Maybe we should just make it that we all have to ride stick pony's. But I still don't think that I could beat those **** young teenagers. |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | FLITASTIC - 2015-02-25 3:34 PM
I think we would solve everything by having all entered get a check at the end of the day. Everyone pay a fee, run the race, pay as many places are people entered. The winner would probably get like 2% of the pot and last place 4 d with all 3 barrels down would get about 7cents. LOLOLOLOL
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Location: Where I am happiest | ndiehl - 2015-02-25 3:36 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-02-25 3:34 PM I think we would solve everything by having all entered get a check at the end of the day. Everyone pay a fee, run the race, pay as many places are people entered. The winner would probably get like 2% of the pot and last place 4 d with all 3 barrels down would get about 7cents. LOLOLOLOL Is that before or after taxes...
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Location: ND | FLITASTIC - 2015-02-25 2:34 PM I think we would solve everything by having all entered get a check at the end of the day. Everyone pay a fee, run the race, pay as many places are people entered. The winner would probably get like 2% of the pot and last place 4 d with all 3 barrels down would get about 7cents. LOLOLOLOL
Lol this makes me laugh but it's so not funny! There was a small shooting jackpot here that did exactly that and people thought it was the best idea in the world! |
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Location: Where I am happiest | ndiehl - 2015-02-25 3:33 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 3:30 PM ndiehl - 2015-02-25 4:27 PM Lol you guys crack me up. Can you imagine the b****ing that would go on then because the pots would have to be split up 50 million timesand be smaller or if producers kept a bigger cut because of all the extra work involved. Or of if entry fees had to go up because of it. Or or... I can go on and on. YEP---let em b*****h away. I have been at this for a long long time and barrel racing RIGHT NOW is better than it has ever been---people sometimes just get to ignorant to see it. I know. I have gotten really excited about it over the last few years, so many different and new opportunities now.
I came back to add. There are more "cow" horse sires getting in the incentives now. There are a couple die hard cow horse people who are now barrel racing, and I just saw A Streak Of Fling colt advertised for sale out of a direct daughter of Highbrow Cat who herself had won $65,000 NCHA moneys.There is no other reason they would breed a mare like that, that way except a bigger market. Our sales yearlings are now bringing more then the reined cow horse yearlings and weanlings are moving way better then theirs. They cant hardly sell their weanlings anymore and barrel bred weanlings are moving for GOOD money!. We are no longer the red headed step child using everybody elses rejects.
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Location: OH | ThreeCorners - 2015-02-25 4:54 PM ndiehl - 2015-02-25 3:33 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 3:30 PM ndiehl - 2015-02-25 4:27 PM Lol you guys crack me up. Can you imagine the b****ing that would go on then because the pots would have to be split up 50 million timesand be smaller or if producers kept a bigger cut because of all the extra work involved. Or of if entry fees had to go up because of it. Or or... I can go on and on. YEP---let em b*****h away. I have been at this for a long long time and barrel racing RIGHT NOW is better than it has ever been---people sometimes just get to ignorant to see it. I know. I have gotten really excited about it over the last few years, so many different and new opportunities now.
EXACTLY what I wanted to say, you just said it a lot better. |
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Location: Montana | total performance - 2015-02-25 2:36 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-02-25 3:16 PM Well while we are at it, you also should eliminate all Dash Ta Fames, Firewater Flits, Frenchmans Guys, ( Goes for grand get on these also) Designer Reds, and A Streak Of Flings. or maybe we should also add no horse allowed who's sire stands for more then $1000. That should about do it.
Me too...maybe I could actually when something! LOL |
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| In 1968 ten year old Ann Lewis was whipping all the cowgirls' butts in barrel racing. There was talk of a rule change making her horse carry extra weight to "even" the races. Her death that October ended the talk. A side note-although deceased, along with fellow barrel racer Sissy Thurman, Ann's mother and twin sister as well their horses due to a trailer wreck, Ann won the GRA (forerunner to WPRA) title posthumously that year with Sissy third. |
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Location: Texas | Weren't all of the "fairness" problems suppose to be solved by the D system?? |
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| outrundaizy - 2015-02-25 6:12 PM
Weren't all of the "fairness" problems suppose to be solved by the D system??
I think you are going to have to call it the Z system. AND I WANT A CLASS FOR OLD FAT MEN ON RACING MULES ONLY!!!!! |
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Location: Montana | outrundaizy - 2015-02-25 5:12 PM Weren't all of the "fairness" problems suppose to be solved by the D system??
Technically, yes...but like our local barrel jackpots I attend most, they mostly run 2D in the summer because there is usually fewer then 20 runners, and I am no where near the 2D in times. I think just being 2D is a little unfair to the rest of the girls including myself (I think 3D would be fair to everyone...maybe if I ever put on a jackpot), but part of the reason I go there is because fewer people attend and, for our area, lower entry fees |
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| Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 1:13 PM Everyone enters by weight class and has to weigh in with their saddle and pad, 100 lbs. and under---100 lbs. to 150 lbs.--150lbs. to 200 lbs and 200lbs and over. Have weigh ins like my old wrestling days---could be the wave of the future by the latest posts on here. LOL
Would a Weight Watchers meeting follow the weigh-in or the barrel race? Riding would be some good activity points so maybe after the barrel race would be best. |
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2015-02-25 6:17 PM
No matter how this is used or how anyone does a play or skit on the "You get a car!" thing it just makes me laugh. |
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| BMW - 2015-02-25 4:08 PM
In 1968 ten year old Ann Lewis was whipping all the cowgirls' butts in barrel racing. There was talk of a rule change making her horse carry extra weight to "even" the races. Her death that October ended the talk. A side note-although deceased, along with fellow barrel racer Sissy Thurman, Ann's mother and twin sister as well their horses due to a trailer wreck, Ann won the GRA (forerunner to WPRA) title posthumously that year with Sissy third.
I know this all to well. My mother hauled with Sissy Thurman but not at the time of the wreck. SHe proudly won the Sissy Thurman fast time at the NFR silver plate. My mom has since passed and this is one thing I don't let out of my site! |
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-02-25 8:31 PM
BMW - 2015-02-25 4:08 PM
In 1968 ten year old Ann Lewis was whipping all the cowgirls' butts in barrel racing. There was talk of a rule change making her horse carry extra weight to "even" the races. Her death that October ended the talk. A side note-although deceased, along with fellow barrel racer Sissy Thurman, Ann's mother and twin sister as well their horses due to a trailer wreck, Ann won the GRA (forerunner to WPRA) title posthumously that year with Sissy third.
I know this all to well. My mother hauled with Sissy Thurman but not at the time of the wreck. SHe proudly won the Sissy Thurman fast time at the NFR silver plate. My mom has since passed and this is one thing I don't let out of my site!
I'd be proud of it, too. Sissy was highly thought of in the barrel horse world and Ann was just beginning to make her mark in the big leagues. I didn't personally know any of them. At the time of the wreck I lived in Texarkana, about thirty miles from the wreck site-traveled that highway many times. Now, I work at Sulphur, Ok. Ann's home town. |
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Location: N Texas | Just Plain Lucky - 2015-02-25 6:17 PM
This would make everything a lot simpler...everyone entered has their very own class all to themselves so that way everyone wins and no one has to worry about the competition! |
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Location: Back in MT BABY!!! | mtcanchazer - 2015-02-25 6:05 PM outrundaizy - 2015-02-25 5:12 PM Weren't all of the "fairness" problems suppose to be solved by the D system?? Technically, yes...but like our local barrel jackpots I attend most, they mostly run 2D in the summer because there is usually fewer then 20 runners, and I am no where near the 2D in times. I think just being 2D is a little unfair to the rest of the girls including myself (I think 3D would be fair to everyone...maybe if I ever put on a jackpot), but part of the reason I go there is because fewer people attend and, for our area, lower entry fees
Where in MT are you? Is the split a half second or a whole second split? If I had to guess the reason they don't get many entries is because people know it's usually ran as a 2D. The bulk of the riders are 3D/4D and if they only offer a 2D split the majority of the girls are just not going enter. |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | I think we should start weighing the horse and the rider and create classes based on the weight ratio!! |
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Location: Sperry, OK | SC Wrangler - 2015-02-26 11:02 AM I think we should start weighing the horse and the rider and create classes based on the weight ratio!!
And measure how tall the horse is and make it a weight/height ratio. |
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2015-02-26 11:15 AM SC Wrangler - 2015-02-26 11:02 AM I think we should start weighing the horse and the rider and create classes based on the weight ratio!! And measure how tall the horse is and make it a weight/height ratio.
Works for me. Then we could sub-class them by their ability to handle the type of ground at each facility. |
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| jbhoot - 2015-02-25 6:35 PM
outrundaizy - 2015-02-25 6:12 PM
Weren't all of the "fairness" problems suppose to be solved by the D system??
I think you are going to have to call it the Z system. AND I WANT A CLASS FOR OLD FAT MEN ON RACING MULES ONLY!!!!!
OK fat guy, I want a class for old fat women and you should have to show your Medicare card to ride in Seniors. This 50 year old stuff is for kids.
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Location: Buffalo, TX | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 3:22 PM ThreeCorners - 2015-02-25 4:16 PM Well while we are at it, you also should eliminate all Dash Ta Fames, Firewater Flits, Frenchmans Guys, ( Goes for grand get on these also) Designer Reds, and A Streak Of Flings. or maybe we should also add no horse allowed who's sire stands for more then $1000. That should about do it.
But...to qualify for the poverty run, you have to show proof of income (or lack of) and then your entry fee is paid by the other contestants (kind of like an Obama phone)....LOL....bet that would go over good... |
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| Never Mind wrong post.
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Location: Back in MT BABY!!! | streakysox - 2015-02-26 10:27 AM jbhoot - 2015-02-25 6:35 PM outrundaizy - 2015-02-25 6:12 PM Weren't all of the "fairness" problems suppose to be solved by the D system?? I think you are going to have to call it the Z system. AND I WANT A CLASS FOR OLD FAT MEN ON RACING MULES ONLY!!!!! OK fat guy, I want a class for old fat women and you should have to show your Medicare card to ride in Seniors. T his 50 year old stuff is for kids.
This makes me laugh
BRN4D in the NorthWest seniors is 45 and older...a lot of the 50+ ladies complain non stop about it. ;) |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Mighty Broke - 2015-02-25 2:19 PM LRQHS - 2015-02-25 3:16 PM Whatever, I'd totally bulk up even more for the 250+ club......you fat girls are going D-O-W-N!!! Believe that :) HEY---what about guys ?????
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Location: Where it is too cold, SD | Yep - if you are gonna weigh the rider .............and split up the class by the riders hair color.............and type of saddle used?
We better go beyond that and split up classes by the horse's height...........color............lefty's vs rightys.......and heck why not by what stud they are out of too
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Location: MD | I have never been one to want to win by default. I want to get beat by the best team on the day and if that means that little Suzie is going to use my donations to buy some My Little Ponies.... I hope she buys a sparkly pink one in my honor! |
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Location: North Dakota | If you're afraid of getting beat then don't compete. The more you regulate anything to be politically correct, the more convoluted it gets. Every horse and rider has advantages and disadvantages. If you want to make it equal, might as well give everyone an equal check just for showing up. Hello barrel racing communism. |
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Location: OH | scared of sharks - 2015-02-27 3:17 AM when it gets to these big payouts, leveling the playing field ain't such a bad idea .
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Location: North Dakota | There is a girl in the area I ride that is every bit 300 pounds plus and she kicks all our butts so dividing by weight would not really work in the adult division. However I do think it is unfair to have tiny 50 pound kids competing for Big money $$on a pro level it's just not fair!! |
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Location: MD | Okay! I'm losing it! For all of you that don't want to have to run against the little ones, I've got the best idea ever! Just go to the little, local playdays where you can run in an age restricted division, suck and get a ribbon for your efforts, no matter how deplorable your run! That is all... |
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Location: Texas | angelica - 2015-02-27 10:00 AM There is a girl in the area I ride that is every bit 300 pounds plus and she kicks all our butts so dividing by weight would not really work in the adult division. However I do think it is unfair to have tiny 50 pound kids competing for Big money $$on a pro level it's just not fair!!
She paid her fees and ran in the same arena everyone else did. The only reason people are mad is because a 9 year old can ride better then most adults.
She still has to compete against world champions and NFR qualifiers, its not over yet. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Everybody that has tried out for the American has paid their dues in the barrel pen. Even Chaynie and the other young kids. The only reason we are all talking about it is because of the format that lets an underdog have a chance against the pro's. I am for the underdog because in the back of my head it means that maybe some other underdog or myself someday might have a chance at 5 minutes of fame. |
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| DesignerShoes - 2015-02-27 1:29 AM Yep - if you are gonna weigh the rider .............and split up the class by the riders hair color.............and type of saddle used?
We better go beyond that and split up classes by the horse's height...........color............lefty's vs rightys.......and heck why not by what stud they are out of too
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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| WrapSnap - 2015-02-27 10:05 AM
Okay! I'm losing it! For all of you that don't want to have to run against the little ones, I've got the best idea ever! Just go to the little, local playdays where you can run in an age restricted division, suck and get a ribbon for your efforts, no matter how deplorable your run! That is all...
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Location: Moving soon..... | Open barrel race means just that! This thread is hilarious. If you are afraid of getting outrun by "anyone" you do not need to go. If at every barrel race I went to I didn't enter because who was there, I wouldn't enter. I guess you could just go to a playday and enter. |
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Location: North Dakota | I gave an opinion but at no point did I single out any specific child, it was a general statement and an opinion. No reason to be nasty just because some people look at things differently. Weight IS an advantage in horse racing of any type!! |
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Location: OH | angelica - 2015-02-27 1:52 PM I gave an opinion but at no point did I single out any specific child, it was a general statement and an opinion. No reason to be nasty just because some people look at things differently. Weight IS an advantage in horse racing of any type!!
I can agree that weight can be an advantage but inexperience is also a huge disadvantage. The X each other out in my opinion. |
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Location: North Dakota | I know my 7 year old son can ride better than me period and I have been riding all my life he just has "IT". I am simply old school and think only adults should run with adults for money. Yes kids events for money are fine but kids running with kids. Anyway its just an opinion. And yes experience usually wins, I agree with that statement! |
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| Mighty Broke - 2015-02-27 1:56 PM
angelica - 2015-02-27 1:52 PM I gave an opinion but at no point did I single out any specific child, it was a general statement and an opinion. No reason to be nasty just because some people look at things differently. Weight IS an advantage in horse racing of any type!!
I can agree that weight can be an advantage but inexperience is also a huge disadvantage. The X each other out in my opinion.
Exactly!
There are a lot of horses that can get a lil kid there BUT only phenomenal horses (Hot Shot) that are automatic can keep a lil kid there. The ones that need tuned on to stay right will come apart if the parents or trainer the kid has are not able to put the tune back into the horse. Some horses are automatic and easy to ride, they will get a kid there. Those horses are smooth and make it look effortless. Some horses are dirty fast and make mistakes but can still get there, harder for an experienced rider to get by on this kind. But there are some horses that make a move to be able to clock such as mulberry...a hard fast turner whose moves around the barrel beat you, real hard for a kid to ride. All can clock and take your money any given saturday! |
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Location: Dubach, LA | You want the best riders there? Make them draw for their rides - like rough stock riders. (NBHA does this in Italy)
You want the fastest horses? Then weight matters and very few owners would be riding.
You want entertainment? Throw some cute kids in there.
You want fair? How about fewer runs in the semis and an average like the team ropers have?
Do we have the top combos riding on Sunday? No. The dirt decided that on Saturday and Sunday in Ft. Worth.
Do I love the American? Yes. It's great publicity for rodeo.
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Location: North Dakota | You guys know this has been done already? 3 day eventing. They used to make riders that were lighter do their cross country day with weights. Riders had to be weighed with their saddle and weights were added appropriately. That has been done away with in eventing for years, and last time I checked. The very tall (and thereby heavier) men *coughWilliamFoxPittcough* have been kicking A$$ against much smaller riders. Weight is only one of many factors that impacts performance. |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | CanCan - 2015-02-27 12:58 PMYou want the best riders there? Make them draw for their rides - like rough stock riders. (NBHA does this in Italy)
You want the fastest horses? Then weight matters and very few owners would be riding.
You want entertainment? Throw some cute kids in there.
You want fair? How about fewer runs in the semis and an average like the team ropers have?
Do we have the top combos riding on Sunday? No. The dirt decided that on Saturday and Sunday in Ft. Worth.
Do I love the American? Yes. It's great publicity for rodeo.
I would love to draw for rides. How much freaking fun would it be to get the chance to ride some bad @$$ super fun horses. This would be a ball
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Location: North Dakota | willrodeo4food - 2015-02-27 5:29 PM
CanCan - 2015-02-27 12:58 PMYou want the best riders there? Make them draw for their rides - like rough stock riders. (NBHA does this in Italy)
You want the fastest horses? Then weight matters and very few owners would be riding.
You want entertainment? Throw some cute kids in there.
You want fair? How about fewer runs in the semis and an average like the team ropers have?
Do we have the top combos riding on Sunday? No. The dirt decided that on Saturday and Sunday in Ft. Worth.
Do I love the American? Yes. It's great publicity for rodeo.
I would love to draw for rides. How much freaking fun would it be to get the chance to ride some bad @$$ super fun horses. This would be a ball
In one way it would be cool but I would NEVER EVER EVER NEVER EVER NEVER let a stranger on my horse. Even people I know well would have to be REALLY good riders before I let them touch him. |
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Location: Montana | willrodeo4food - 2015-02-27 4:29 PM CanCan - 2015-02-27 12:58 PMYou want the best riders there? Make them draw for their rides - like rough stock riders. (NBHA does this in Italy)
You want the fastest horses? Then weight matters and very few owners would be riding.
You want entertainment? Throw some cute kids in there.
You want fair? How about fewer runs in the semis and an average like the team ropers have?
Do we have the top combos riding on Sunday? No. The dirt decided that on Saturday and Sunday in Ft. Worth.
Do I love the American? Yes. It's great publicity for rodeo.
I would love to draw for rides. How much freaking fun would it be to get the chance to ride some bad @$$ super fun horses. This would be a ball
That would be kind of fun...until I fell off because their horse was going too fast, LOL. |
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