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Location: Kansas | I normally don't like to post things like this on here....but went out at 6 am to feed my horses. I open up my plastic grain bin, scoop out some grain, shine the flash light back in the bin to get another scoop...and I see something shiny. I took a picture of it, and it was a piece of metal. I sent the company a message on facebook at 6:37 a.m., but have yet to hear a response from them when they read it at 8:28 a.m. I'm just hoping there wasn't anymore pieces of metal, and that none of the horses ingested any!!! I'm very disappointed with this company.
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Holy cow! I would be reaming someone's arse. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | That kinda looks like a tire weight? Like used to balance tires?
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Location: Kansas | TrailGirl - 2015-02-26 12:37 PM That kinda looks like a tire weight? Like used to balance tires? How did that get in there?
I'm not sure, I have a plastic feed bin and plastic scoop. I bought 2 bags of this from TSC last week, dumped both bags into the bin and have been feeding it. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | One of the reasons I quit feeding Purina many years ago...I use to find all kinds of garbage in their Omolene 200 from metal and wire to pieces of dead animals. |
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Location: Kansas | Nevertooold - 2015-02-26 12:40 PM One of the reasons I quit feeding Purina many years ago...I use to find all kinds of garbage in their Omolene 200 from metal and wire to pieces of dead animals.
OMG!!! I was going to switch to purina, but not now lol!! This was actually nutrena! |
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| Nevertooold - 2015-02-26 10:40 AM One of the reasons I quit feeding Purina many years ago...I use to find all kinds of garbage in their Omolene 200 from metal and wire to pieces of dead animals.
Until the day comes that I have a reason to switch, I will feed Purina. Fed it for 25+ years with no problems. Short of dumping the grains from the hopper of a combine directly to your storage bin every feed company has had something found in it at one point or another. For the OP - that looks like a clip to hold a tire weight on. Sorry you are dealing with that and I hope your horses are okay. |
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Location: Texas | Oh my gosh. I would be livid!
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Location: Kansas | I'm thinking about emailing them, obviously they could care less on the facebook page.
ETA: I know accidents happen, I'm not mad just disappointed in their customer service. I'm just thankful none of the horses had a chance to bite down on this lol
Edited by hoofs_in_motion 2015-02-26 12:50 PM
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Location: North Dakota | Pick up the phone and CALL them, IMO you're not serious unless you call :)
That's my opinion on consumer complaints OR promises of any kind! |
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Location: Kansas | LMS - 2015-02-26 3:07 PM Pick up the phone and CALL them, IMO you're not serious unless you call :)
That's my opinion on consumer complaints OR promises of any kind!
I just did lol. The lady was very nice and I emailed her the pictures and the bag tag |
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Location: SE Louisiana | TrailGirl - 2015-02-26 12:37 PM
That kinda looks like a tire weight? Like used to balance tires?
How did that get in there?
Nope.. those have rounded corners and are made out of lead.. |
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| First off YES I'd be pi$$ed. BUT most horses have really sensitive lips and won't eat foreign items in the feed. For example I had a horse that I was trying to use a wormer in her feed... the pellets were not much bigger than a grain of rice. She wouldn't eat them... I even counted out 10 of them and put them in her feed when she was done eating there was 10 pellets in the feed tub. |
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| suzy2qtee - 2015-02-26 9:04 PM
First off YES I'd be pi$$ed. BUT most horses have really sensitive lips and won't eat foreign items in the feed. For example I had a horse that I was trying to use a wormer in her feed... the pellets were not much bigger than a grain of rice. She wouldn't eat them... I even counted out 10 of them and put them in her feed when she was done eating there was 10 pellets in the feed tub.
HA - I tried this too and my horse picked right through them also! |
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Location: lone star state | Purina does not cover their feed during maintenance or expansion so metal fragments are often found in their feed. They know this is negligent but their profit is more important than consumer animals. Same with using inferior ingredients in Beniful dog food. They know how to work the legal system and will never pay a dime to those who they injure.
I know this thread is about nutrena but all big feed operate with similar standards. Same with the McDonald's coffee case that got so much attention. McDonald's knew their lids could come off causing injury however McDonald's was more concerned with saving a few cents on every sale not doing the right thing by their customers. |
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| firewaterfuelsme - 2015-02-27 8:58 AM Purina does not cover their feed during maintenance or expansion so metal fragments are often found in their feed. They know this is negligent but their profit is more important than consumer animals. Same with using inferior ingredients in Beniful dog food. They know how to work the legal system and will never pay a dime to those who they injure. I know this thread is about nutrena but all big feed operate with similar standards. Same with the McDonald's coffee case that got so much attention. McDonald's knew their lids could come off causing injury however McDonald's was more concerned with saving a few cents on every sale not doing the right thing by their customers.
Because it is Friday and this makes me crabby -
HOW DO YOU KNOW???!! Do you work for Purina, Nutrena??? Manufacturing processes can vary greatly between co-ops where we have our own feed mixed. I would assume that the manufacturing processes in feed mills also varies between companies and even mills. This was made evident during the ADM information passed around just on this board - many companies have facilities where multiple types of feed are made but many also have facilities that do not use ionophores at all at that mill. By generalizing, you are attacking an entire industry instead of acknowledging that a particular mill may have a problem.
The McDonalds lawsuit from back in the 90s ... seriously?? The woman ordered a HOT coffee - thus, she shoulda been careful with it. When does it become the problem of the company selling it when common sense should prevail? Obviously in this example, she sued, McDonalds got nailed and now we have "safety statements" on just about freakin' everything. When is it appropriate for the consumer to show some responsibilty - like don't pour bleach in your eyes, that beverage is hot, don't eat household cleaners, etc.
I only have to assume from your statements that you happen to be anti large business, anti free economy, and anti pretty much everything in the American economy. Don't forget that many of those large businesses happen to be good upstanding members of communities, states, and counties where they provide a hell of alot of jobs and industry that this country desperately needs.
RANT OVER, Sorry OP, I had to get that off my chest today.
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Location: Kansas | lindseylou2290 - 2015-02-27 9:13 AM firewaterfuelsme - 2015-02-27 8:58 AM Purina does not cover their feed during maintenance or expansion so metal fragments are often found in their feed. They know this is negligent but their profit is more important than consumer animals. Same with using inferior ingredients in Beniful dog food. They know how to work the legal system and will never pay a dime to those who they injure. I know this thread is about nutrena but all big feed operate with similar standards. Same with the McDonald's coffee case that got so much attention. McDonald's knew their lids could come off causing injury however McDonald's was more concerned with saving a few cents on every sale not doing the right thing by their customers. Because it is Friday and this makes me crabby -
HOW DO YOU KNOW???!! Do you work for Purina, Nutrena??? Manufacturing processes can vary greatly between co-ops where we have our own feed mixed. I would assume that the manufacturing processes in feed mills also varies between companies and even mills. This was made evident during the ADM information passed around just on this board - many companies have facilities where multiple types of feed are made but many also have facilities that do not use ionophores at all at that mill. By generalizing, you are attacking an entire industry instead of acknowledging that a particular mill may have a problem.
The McDonalds lawsuit from back in the 90s ... seriously?? The woman ordered a HOT coffee - thus, she shoulda been careful with it. When does it become the problem of the company selling it when common sense should prevail? Obviously in this example, she sued, McDonalds got nailed and now we have "safety statements" on just about freakin' everything. When is it appropriate for the consumer to show some responsibilty - like don't pour bleach in your eyes, that beverage is hot, don't eat household cleaners, etc.
I only have to assume from your statements that you happen to be anti large business, anti free economy, and anti pretty much everything in the American economy. Don't forget that many of those large businesses happen to be good upstanding members of communities, states, and counties where they provide a hell of alot of jobs and industry that this country desperately needs.
RANT OVER, Sorry OP, I had to get that off my chest today.
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Location: Kentucky | lindseylou2290 - 2015-02-27 10:13 AM firewaterfuelsme - 2015-02-27 8:58 AM Purina does not cover their feed during maintenance or expansion so metal fragments are often found in their feed. They know this is negligent but their profit is more important than consumer animals. Same with using inferior ingredients in Beniful dog food. They know how to work the legal system and will never pay a dime to those who they injure. I know this thread is about nutrena but all big feed operate with similar standards. Same with the McDonald's coffee case that got so much attention. McDonald's knew their lids could come off causing injury however McDonald's was more concerned with saving a few cents on every sale not doing the right thing by their customers. Because it is Friday and this makes me crabby -
HOW DO YOU KNOW???!! Do you work for Purina, Nutrena??? Manufacturing processes can vary greatly between co-ops where we have our own feed mixed. I would assume that the manufacturing processes in feed mills also varies between companies and even mills. This was made evident during the ADM information passed around just on this board - many companies have facilities where multiple types of feed are made but many also have facilities that do not use ionophores at all at that mill. By generalizing, you are attacking an entire industry instead of acknowledging that a particular mill may have a problem.
The McDonalds lawsuit from back in the 90s ... seriously?? The woman ordered a HOT coffee - thus, she shoulda been careful with it. When does it become the problem of the company selling it when common sense should prevail? Obviously in this example, she sued, McDonalds got nailed and now we have "safety statements" on just about freakin' everything. When is it appropriate for the consumer to show some responsibilty - like don't pour bleach in your eyes, that beverage is hot, don't eat household cleaners, etc.
I only have to assume from your statements that you happen to be anti large business, anti free economy, and anti pretty much everything in the American economy. Don't forget that many of those large businesses happen to be good upstanding members of communities, states, and counties where they provide a hell of alot of jobs and industry that this country desperately needs.
RANT OVER, Sorry OP, I had to get that off my chest today.
The McDonald's example caught my eye. We examined this case recently in school. Apparently the coffee at this particular McDonald's was way over the typical temperature of coffee, and would scald someone even after waiting minutes to drink. So it's really not the case that we think of and say 'well, yea, coffee is hot'. She had third degree burns that soaked through sweatpants. That ain't regular coffee.
Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled program :) |
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Location: SE Louisiana | lindseylou2290 - 2015-02-27 9:13 AM
firewaterfuelsme - 2015-02-27 8:58 AM Purina does not cover their feed during maintenance or expansion so metal fragments are often found in their feed. They know this is negligent but their profit is more important than consumer animals. Same with using inferior ingredients in Beniful dog food. They know how to work the legal system and will never pay a dime to those who they injure. I know this thread is about nutrena but all big feed operate with similar standards. Same with the McDonald's coffee case that got so much attention. McDonald's knew their lids could come off causing injury however McDonald's was more concerned with saving a few cents on every sale not doing the right thing by their customers.
Because it is Friday and this makes me crabby -
HOW DO YOU KNOW???!! Do you work for Purina, Nutrena??? Manufacturing processes can vary greatly between co-ops where we have our own feed mixed. I would assume that the manufacturing processes in feed mills also varies between companies and even mills. This was made evident during the ADM information passed around just on this board - many companies have facilities where multiple types of feed are made but many also have facilities that do not use ionophores at all at that mill. By generalizing, you are attacking an entire industry instead of acknowledging that a particular mill may have a problem.
The McDonalds lawsuit from back in the 90s ... seriously?? The woman ordered a HOT coffee - thus, she shoulda been careful with it. When does it become the problem of the company selling it when common sense should prevail? Obviously in this example, she sued, McDonalds got nailed and now we have "safety statements" on just about freakin' everything. When is it appropriate for the consumer to show some responsibilty - like don't pour bleach in your eyes, that beverage is hot, don't eat household cleaners, etc.
I only have to assume from your statements that you happen to be anti large business, anti free economy, and anti pretty much everything in the American economy. Don't forget that many of those large businesses happen to be good upstanding members of communities, states, and counties where they provide a hell of alot of jobs and industry that this country desperately needs.
RANT OVER, Sorry OP, I had to get that off my chest today.
It makes me mad too!! This is why you can't buy a HOT cup of coffee today, because that stupid $itch bought a hot cup of coffee and stuck it between her fat thighs while she was driving. Duhhh!!!! |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Murphy - 2015-02-27 9:21 AM
lindseylou2290 - 2015-02-27 10:13 AM firewaterfuelsme - 2015-02-27 8:58 AM Purina does not cover their feed during maintenance or expansion so metal fragments are often found in their feed. They know this is negligent but their profit is more important than consumer animals. Same with using inferior ingredients in Beniful dog food. They know how to work the legal system and will never pay a dime to those who they injure. I know this thread is about nutrena but all big feed operate with similar standards. Same with the McDonald's coffee case that got so much attention. McDonald's knew their lids could come off causing injury however McDonald's was more concerned with saving a few cents on every sale not doing the right thing by their customers. Because it is Friday and this makes me crabby -
HOW DO YOU KNOW???!! Do you work for Purina, Nutrena??? Manufacturing processes can vary greatly between co-ops where we have our own feed mixed. I would assume that the manufacturing processes in feed mills also varies between companies and even mills. This was made evident during the ADM information passed around just on this board - many companies have facilities where multiple types of feed are made but many also have facilities that do not use ionophores at all at that mill. By generalizing, you are attacking an entire industry instead of acknowledging that a particular mill may have a problem.
The McDonalds lawsuit from back in the 90s ... seriously?? The woman ordered a HOT coffee - thus, she shoulda been careful with it. When does it become the problem of the company selling it when common sense should prevail? Obviously in this example, she sued, McDonalds got nailed and now we have "safety statements" on just about freakin' everything. When is it appropriate for the consumer to show some responsibilty - like don't pour bleach in your eyes, that beverage is hot, don't eat household cleaners, etc.
I only have to assume from your statements that you happen to be anti large business, anti free economy, and anti pretty much everything in the American economy. Don't forget that many of those large businesses happen to be good upstanding members of communities, states, and counties where they provide a hell of alot of jobs and industry that this country desperately needs.
RANT OVER, Sorry OP, I had to get that off my chest today.
Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled program :)
You better study it again. Water only gets so hot... Boiling... That's what it takes to percolate. You can't get it any hotter than that without adding something to it. Like antifreeze/boil.. That's how you MAKE coffee!@!!
Edited by komet. 2015-02-27 4:21 PM
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Makes you wonder if quality control is a thing of the past or does all of this seem to be happening more since nothing is no longer just local news?
As far as the dog food recalls...a lot of that goes back to China ingredients as so many of our small dog food companies have been bought by the big companies like Colgate Palmolive, Mars, Nestle and Proctor and Gamble and their bottomline is profits and they have the money to continue on doing business while the small dog food company would be put out of business. JMHO
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Location: North Dakota | This doesn't surprise me considering some of the things you can find in people food. The good thing is that piece of metal surely would have been picked out by a horse. It's amazing what those lips can do. |
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Location: your guess is as good as mine | suzy2qtee - 2015-02-26 9:04 PM First off YES I'd be pi$$ed. BUT most horses have really sensitive lips and won't eat foreign items in the feed. For example I had a horse that I was trying to use a wormer in her feed... the pellets were not much bigger than a grain of rice. She wouldn't eat them... I even counted out 10 of them and put them in her feed when she was done eating there was 10 pellets in the feed tub. LOL - when I first got into horses we fed an all-grain from a local feed store and it had alfalfa pellets in it. One of my mares HATED the alfalfa pellets...everytime I would check her feeder after she ate and it would look like you had fed her grain - she had cleaned it up - then someone had dumped a cup of alfalfa pellets in the corner. Not a single oat to be found - even amongst the pellets LMBO!! 
ETA: I have to say I personally have found more stuff in the feed I used to buy from a small, local feed mill than I've ever found in Nutrena or Purina.
Edited by ghost rider 2015-02-28 1:56 PM
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