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Location: Phoenix | How many of you use the Panacur power pack wormer? In what cases do you use it? Every year? Only if the horse hasn't been wormed lately? Just seems like a lot all at once, even if it is spread out over 5 days. |
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Location: Oklahoma | hammer_time - 2015-02-27 3:26 PM
How many of you use the Panacur power pack wormer? In what cases do you use it? Every year? Only if the horse hasn't been wormed lately? Just seems like a lot all at once, even if it is spread out over 5 days.
Best thing in the world if you have a horse that isn't looking good or a new one you just brought in. I try to do mine at least once a year anyway, because it's the only wormer that gets bloodworms. It's a very mild wormer; that's why it doesn't hurt them. The reason you do it 5 days is to get ALL the worms and it's designed for horses w/heavy worm loads. |
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Location: North Dakota | dianeguinn - 2015-02-27 4:01 PM
hammer_time - 2015-02-27 3:26 PM
How many of you use the Panacur power pack wormer? In what cases do you use it? Every year? Only if the horse hasn't been wormed lately? Just seems like a lot all at once, even if it is spread out over 5 days.
Best thing in the world if you have a horse that isn't looking good or a new one you just brought in. I try to do mine at least once a year anyway, because it's the only wormer that gets bloodworms. It's a very mild wormer; that's why it doesn't hurt them. The reason you do it 5 days is to get ALL the worms and it's designed for horses w/heavy worm loads.
I agree with Diane. I had my whole herd on the same wormer rotation last year, but had one horse that wasn't looking as good as the rest. Everyone else was fat and happy. So I ran a fecal on her and she was loaded with worms. Vet had me do a powerpack on her and after a week you could tell she was already improving. I don't do it to all of them, but if you find one that's not blooming have your vet run a fecal and go from there. |
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Location: Here | Twice a year |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | You need to hit a horse with a less potent wormer first a time or two, then clean up with this. You can founder a horse with the toxins from a large kill off. |
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| When I had my horses stool checked the vet said nope no worms... but plenty of eggs... Need to power pack to get those little suckers as soon as they hatch. SO that is why I power pack... It would seem to me to do a power pack min once a year but I think I'll be doing it twice. |
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Location: Claremore, OK | hammer_time - 2015-02-27 3:26 PM
How many of you use the Panacur power pack wormer? In what cases do you use it? Every year? Only if the horse hasn't been wormed lately? Just seems like a lot all at once, even if it is spread out over 5 days.
The Power Pack was designed to kill encysted Strongyles. Depending on the geographic area and time of year strongyles encyst in the intestinal wall and can migrate out at any given time.
Safeguard is very safe. I believe there are some studies that have shown no toxicity even at 100 times normal dose.
Although it's not as safe as Safeguard, Quest, is also labelled to kill encysted Strongyles.
Even healthy horses that have been wormed regularly can get encysted strongyles. |
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| I rescued a big boy last year. Wormed him with ivermectin and he colicked. Vet came and he was fine thankfully but he ran fecal, and told me to wait 30 days and power Pac him. I did keep him quarantined in a run so as not to infect my pasture. Best thing EVER! He blossomed quickly. |
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Location: Phoenix | I definitely don't want to make mine colic. The vet I used recommended it but I've never done it. But I also don't know when he was last wormed. (De-wormed, you know what I mean). But he's got the hay-belly....has been shedding out OK.... |
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Location: ND | I've used it on a few horses that just weren't looking as good as I felt they should & every time I've done it they bloomed quickly. |
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Location: AR & OK | Is Panacur Powerpac the same as Safequard Power-Dose??? |
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Location: Nowhere Special | I just buy 5 tubes of safeguard when it goes on sale way cheaper then the power pack.. same result |
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Location: Texas | jetgetset - 2015-02-28 2:51 AM I just buy 5 tubes of safeguard when it goes on sale way cheaper then the power pack.. same result
The tubes in the Power Pak are a double dose, the tubes sold as singles are a single dose. You would need to give two single dose tubes to equal one of the Power Pak tubes. |
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Location: Nowhere Special | When doing a 6-800 pound horse giving full tube is almost a double dose.. Vet said there wouldn't be a reason to double up a dose on a normal horse if hitting them for 5 days.. IDK mades sense to me if one dose kills and all you are trying to do is get the ones that appear and take the place of the ones that already died why would you need to double the dose.. But hes the one with the education so thats what I went with. Its worked just fine. |
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Location: Here | TBone - 2015-02-28 7:45 AM jetgetset - 2015-02-28 2:51 AM I just buy 5 tubes of safeguard when it goes on sale way cheaper then the power pack.. same result The tubes in the Power Pak are a double dose, the tubes sold as singles are a single dose. You would need to give two single dose tubes to equal one of the Power Pak tubes.
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Location: Here | jetgetset - 2015-02-28 2:24 PM When doing a 6-800 pound horse giving full tube is almost a double dose.. Vet said there wouldn't be a reason to double up a dose on a normal horse if hitting them for 5 days.. IDK mades sense to me if one dose kills and all you are trying to do is get the ones that appear and take the place of the ones that already died why would you need to double the dose.. But hes the one with the education so thats what I went with. Its worked just fine.
To do a power pack you need to double dose for 5 days. My horses are way over the 600 to 800 pound mark |
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| My vet didn't seem to think the worming alone caused the colic but ivermectin can be harsh on one that hasn't been wormed and fed correctly. I bought him, brought him home and was introducing him to regular feed and hay at the same time so a culmination of too much TLC. I waited the 30 days and power Pac him and it really make a huge difference |
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Location: Phoenix | SG. - 2015-02-28 1:49 PM jetgetset - 2015-02-28 2:24 PM When doing a 6-800 pound horse giving full tube is almost a double dose.. Vet said there wouldn't be a reason to double up a dose on a normal horse if hitting them for 5 days.. IDK mades sense to me if one dose kills and all you are trying to do is get the ones that appear and take the place of the ones that already died why would you need to double the dose.. But hes the one with the education so thats what I went with. Its worked just fine. To do a power pack you need to double dose for 5 days. My horses are way over the 600 to 800 pound mark
And most horses are..... |
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Location: Nowhere Special | hammer_time - 2015-02-28 4:13 PM SG. - 2015-02-28 1:49 PM jetgetset - 2015-02-28 2:24 PM When doing a 6-800 pound horse giving full tube is almost a double dose.. Vet said there wouldn't be a reason to double up a dose on a normal horse if hitting them for 5 days.. IDK mades sense to me if one dose kills and all you are trying to do is get the ones that appear and take the place of the ones that already died why would you need to double the dose.. But hes the one with the education so thats what I went with. Its worked just fine. To do a power pack you need to double dose for 5 days. My horses are way over the 600 to 800 pound mark
Mine wasn't he was a very underweight rescue so a double dose was a full syringe.. The information I got was on horses such as this or in poor condition or with a heavy worm load you would want to do the double dose, on horses there were in good condition without a heavy worm load and you just wanted to add a power pack to the roataional wormer the double dose was not really essential, since how the wormer works is the exposer of the wormer to the worm thru a several day period, thus one worm dies another appears out of the intesinal wall you get that on the second, day so on and so forth.. IDK just what was discussed per the vet, made sense to me but everyone has there own way of doing things. |
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Location: Phoenix | True--I forgot about the rescue horses. I can't decide if I want to worm with a "normal" wormer and then do a decal count.....or just go ahead and do it.
Edited by hammer_time 2015-02-28 11:48 PM
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Location: Here | jetgetset - 2015-02-28 9:53 PM hammer_time - 2015-02-28 4:13 PM SG. - 2015-02-28 1:49 PM jetgetset - 2015-02-28 2:24 PM When doing a 6-800 pound horse giving full tube is almost a double dose.. Vet said there wouldn't be a reason to double up a dose on a normal horse if hitting them for 5 days.. IDK mades sense to me if one dose kills and all you are trying to do is get the ones that appear and take the place of the ones that already died why would you need to double the dose.. But hes the one with the education so thats what I went with. Its worked just fine. To do a power pack you need to double dose for 5 days. My horses are way over the 600 to 800 pound mark
The Power Pack is designed to kill encysted Strongyles |
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Powerpack wormer??