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Location: scurry, tx | 0k not sure what happen... do not sign up for class... I paid for the class on feb 5... have not recieved anything.. have gotten confirmation # on Tues 23 that i would have it by feb 26... still nothing<br /><br />I call and left message that i would be filing with paypal and i just now got an email. that my training was rejected<br />no reason<br /><br />still waiting for refund so that i may go to a reputable cit training<br /><br /><br />
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I don't understand it either. |
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Location: scurry, tx | sent you a pm... not sure why it is not posting correctly |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | How much did you pay? And, do you think she just took the money? Is she a member here? |
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Location: scurry, tx | 1995.00 i do not know i filed it with paypal for dispute... she runs ads on facebook .... just letting others know... |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | lwest - 2015-03-02 2:30 PM 1995.00 i do not know i filed it with paypal for dispute... she runs ads on facebook .... just letting others know...
$1995.00 American Dollars???? |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | What was she supposed to teach you exactly? |
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Location: scurry, tx | yes on the paypal the address is Sisters Oregon |
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Location: SE Louisiana | lwest - 2015-03-02 2:02 PM
0k not sure what happen... do not sign up for class... I paid for the class on feb 5... have not received anything.. have gotten confirmation # on Tues 23 that i would have it by feb 26... still nothing. I call and left message that i would be filing with paypal and i just now got an email. that my training was rejected no reason. Still waiting for refund so that i may go to a reputable cit training.
Try reading it now. |
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Location: Kansas | komet. - 2015-03-02 2:38 PM lwest - 2015-03-02 2:02 PM 0k not sure what happen... do not sign up for class... I paid for the class on feb 5... have not received anything.. have gotten confirmation # on Tues 23 that i would have it by feb 26... still nothing. I call and left message that i would be filing with paypal and i just now got an email. that my training was rejected no reason. Still waiting for refund so that i may go to a reputable cit training. Try reading it now.
much better thank you.
Now what is this thermscan thing? Is this person selling them? Then ripped you off??? |
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Location: scurry, tx | 32 Hour Online Course with Course Manual. Final Exam. Certificate of Completion and your CIT #.
Includes Equine Thermal Imaging training package. This package continues your education as a thermographer for commercial imaging in horses. With this training you can start your career as a CIT specializing in equine thermal imaging. Many veterinarians (and farriers) are now interested in referring a CIT that is knowlegable in equine imaging, to their cases. And/or many companies selling equine products will have a CIT come out to do case studies on their products using thermography as a study for before and after trials of equine products such as linament, saddle pads, magnetic boots and more! Includes equine imaging videos, client work sheet, report template., pricing flyers.
this is what is on the thermscan facebook
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Do you think that she skipped town? |
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Location: scurry, tx | i dont know what is going on. the email i got this morningThermScan Diagnostics store: Order #1230 has been rejected info@thermscan.com via mandrillapp.com Your order #1230 has been rejected. --- ThermScan Diagnostics P.O. Box 1952 Sisters, Oregon, 97759 United States Phone 5416109559Email: info@thermscan.com loretta west <lwest0963@gmail.com> to info why has my class been rejected you have my 1995.00 and i have a conformation from jennifer |
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Location: Kansas | I would just wait for your dispute to resolve...and use the money for a more crediable class. |
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Location: scurry, tx | i will already chking with the company where my machine came from
just saw on facebook that another class kinieso thermscan was offering did not go either
The kinesio class isn't happening because of trademark issues that they didn't check on. Finally got my money back via paypal. Lots of issues with this company unfortunately. |
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Location: Kansas | lwest - 2015-03-02 3:02 PM i will already chking with the company where my machine came from
just saw on facebook that another class kinieso thermscan was offering did not go either
The kinesio class isn't happening because of trademark issues that they didn't check on. Finally got my money back via paypal. Lots of issues with this company unfortunately.
does the lady advertising own the company? |
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Location: scurry, tx | it appears that way cause the email and phone @ all seem to go to Jennifer Weems |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Well, at least you got your money back. |
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Location: scurry, tx | i filed for a dispute today so hopefully i will get mine back soon also,, |
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Location: scurry, tx | bump
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Location: Florida.. | LRQHS - 2015-03-02 4:10 PM Well, at least you got your money back.
she hasnt yet .. the other lady posted she did though |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Bibliafarm - 2015-03-02 4:28 PM LRQHS - 2015-03-02 4:10 PM Well, at least you got your money back. she hasnt yet .. the other lady posted she did though
Oh, I read that wrong. I hope it works out. |
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Location: Florida.. | me to .surely they will refund.. thats alot of $$ |
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Location: Kansas | You should totally send her some of this LMAO!!!!
https://shipyourenemiesglitter.com/ |
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Location: scurry, tx | thanks guys.
i usually dont post stuff i just us it as a learning experience, but 2000 is a little expensive lesson. and i dont want anyone else getting screwed by them,... I been dealing with this for almost a month and i have finally had enough of the lies...
I have just left it in Gods Hands, he has better plans than i can come up with...
she told me used a company for the training link called Brain Shark, i also informed them of this ordeal  |
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Location: Kansas | I still think you should mail her an envelope full of glitter.......... |
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Location: scurry, tx | lol good idea , but i dont want it to cost me any more money..lol
funny when i clicked back over to my facebook page there was a picture the wording said
Everyone comes into your life is either a lesson or a blessing!!! |
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Location: Kansas | take a look at this:
http://horseandman.com/ |
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Location: scurry, tx | yeap thats on her website also,,, wanting people to invest in the develpment of it also... if i remember right |
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Location: scurry, tx | $3 895.00
from thermscan website:
http://www.thermscandiagnostics.com/shop.html#!/*Spring-Special*-CIT-Course-and-Cert-With-Infrared-Therapy-System/p/47106274/category=0
CIT Course and Certification
is up to ASTM building industry standards!! And provides legal standing for CIT's to take thermal images and state cool and heat thermal exception patterns in reports. http://www.astm.org/Standards/building-standards.html
32 Hour Online Course with Course Manual. Final Exam. Certificate of Completion and your CIT #.
Includes Equine Thermal Imaging training package. This package continues your education as a thermographer for commercial imaging in horses. With this training you can start your career as a CIT specializing in equine thermal imaging. Many veterinarians (and farriers) are now interested in referring a CIT that is knowlegable in equine imaging, to their cases. And/or many companies selling equine products will have a CIT come out to do case studies on their products using thermography as a study for before and after trials of equine products such as linament, saddle pads, magnetic boots and more! Includes equine imaging videos, client work sheet, report template., pricing flyers.
Your Thermal Imaging Camera:
Option 1: Use our new infraHorse app and Mobile Device Camera. Great for spot checking your horse for any sore areas or monitoring injuries. InfraHorse can quickly show you what areas could benefit from IR Therapy! Great tool for necks, backs, hocks and hooves. Plan $265 for your infraHorse camera. These will be available for purchase in June.
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Option 2: FLIR Commercial Imaging Camera. Cost $3850.
*For your commercial camera purchase we will refer you to a FLIR distributor for best pricing on new cameras. This camera is professional grade to create imaging reports to be sent in to veterinarians.
*Once you make your purchase please keep your e mail receipt of your order. You will receive your online course link guaranteed by June 1st. Your course manual will arrive first, by May 25th.
*There are no refunds on orders once customer receives Infrared Therapy System and Log IN to start the online course and training. Infrared Therapy System has a 5 year manufacturer warranty for any malfunctions that happen during normal wear and tear.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I am skeptical, to put it mildly. I don't know how thoroughly this has been evaluated in horses, but it's almost completely useless in human medicine. Not long ago it was the rage amongst naturipaths and quacks and promoted as an alternative to mammography.
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Location: scurry, tx | thks bear i understand
i have talked to a couple of vets and 1 of them told me what they had used them for, they used them on alot of vet checks for 1 , needle sticks show up for several days.... i also planned on getting higher certifications to use it in different fields, but since i have a co that does equine therapys i thought maybe this would be an added tool.....
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Location: Gainesville, TX | lwest - 2015-03-02 11:37 PM
thks bear i understand
i have talked to a couple of vets and 1 of them told me what they had used them for, they used them on alot of vet checks for 1 , needle sticks show up for several days.... i also planned on getting higher certifications to use it in different fields, but since i have a co that does equine therapys i thought maybe this would be an added tool.....
You can buy the camera on Amazon, even for your iphone. Its cheaper. I imagine you could find some type of manual online somewhere too. I don't know that you absolutely have to go with this particular group or through a ton of training. If the training involved some ideas around anatomy, saddle fit issues, etc., well there are books on that too. I don't see, assuming you believe in the efficacy of this diagnostic tool, why you couldn't effectively train yourself. Hot areas are not exactly hard to spot on those cameras so long as you have one. Unless of course the piece of paper is more important?? I guess it depends on how much you are wanting to do this on just your own horses or others. But even these people had to start out somewhere. I don't see why you don't try to build your own program and just consult with a lot of vets. It'll save you a ton of money and you'll probably actually learn more as you explore. |
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Location: scurry, tx | OiJa I have the machine already. I am working on just that. Thanks for the added information. My son is a fireman and they use them also. I have a couple of vets that are happy to assist. So thats where I will focus. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | What it all boils down to is that "thermography" basically lights up areas where there is increased blood flow, in comparison to surrounding tissue. In humans it hasn't panned out as a very useful tool. In theory, it sure sounds logical, but study has not validated it's usefulness. Medical history is replete with such examples that have been relegated to the ash heap. Careful trial and analysis has served us well, in that regard.
The quacks are very clever in their wording. They are artists in that kind of deception. They combine that with testamonials and endosements, careful (albeit very deceptive) packaging and they make a pile of money. Ultimately the product is deemed worthless, but in the meantime their coffers are filled with money fleeced from the gullible....oops! Then, they move on to another gimmick. Some very famous (or should I say infamous) docs have made a fortune promoting junk. I could write a book on quackery, seriously.
One of these days I'm going to sit down and start a thread dealing with spotting quackery. It just kills me to see good people fall for junk science repeatedly and spend their hard earned money for nothing. |
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Location: scurry, tx | i guess i was was the gullible one..lol, hopefully i will get my money back without a court fight since i used paypal.... but there are areas the machine seems to be a great tool, so i will check into those areas as well...
lesson learned!!!! |
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Location: scurry, tx | afleetequine sent you a pm
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I've fallen for it a few times before myself. These people can be very convincing. You can have a decent vet or doctor or chiro be sold on junk.....and then he sells it to you, and it's not always some scam. They often actually believe in it. |
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