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    Location: the high desert | In light of the thread that i ruined (sorry OP of that thread) I feel I should explain myself a little, not that anyone really cares but I will feel better if I do. As moronic as this may sound, I did not mean to offend anyone. I know there are several breeders on this forum and what i said was probably like a slap in the face and for that I am sorry. Its just frustrating to have a dream (very stupid dream, that will never happen) and you watch it slip ever so farther away because prices just keep going up and up, but you as breeders have dreams as well and you have to make money in order to obtain them. I will always have to be a "bargain" shopper, so seeing these nice studs just continue to go up and up and way out my price range gets to be really depressing. I know you as stud owners work very hard to get were your at and have to continue to work even harder to climb up that ladder. |
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    Location: Dubach, LA | I didn't see the post, but I understand where you are coming from. I think I'll be priced out before long. It just keeps getting more and more ridiculously expensive just to compete at all. Much less be truly competitive. |
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          Location: Kentucky | I'm not really sure why you are so down on yourself. Your posts to always seem downgrade yourself. Instead of saying "a very stupid dream that will never happen", make it your goal and work your tail off on it.
You didn't need to make an explaination thread, and you don't need to be so hard on yourself. Think of all the things you DO have, and work on the things you want.
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       Location: Montana | Murphy - 2015-03-04 7:53 PM I'm not really sure why you are so down on yourself. Your posts to always seem downgrade yourself. Instead of saying "a very stupid dream that will never happen", make it your goal and work your tail off on it.
You didn't need to make an explaination thread, and you don't need to be so hard on yourself. Think of all the things you DO have, and work on the things you want.
Trust me, we aren't all millionaires :)
If I could "like" this post more than once, I would.
I agree with Murphy...and I can tell you I'm not a millionaire...or a thousandaire, LOL. What I do, though, is work my butt off to afford the things I want in life. Sometimes that means you have to make do without other things or make a decision about what you want most. But set yourself goals, even small ones, you will get where you want to be! |
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | IT seems this is less an explanation of some of those statement made specifically because there was a bit of contradiction in them but of your frustration with rising prices. As such it makes perfect sense. I get your position. But you have a few options. You can take a gamble on some nice more affordable studs who are not proven performers/producers yet in your price range, you can save, or do what I have done. Breed your way up. I found a great deal on a super nice mare. I bred her to a good freshman sire. Then I bred her to a couple nicer studs and sold the babies, walaa, I kept the money from those sales and am breeding her to DTF now. Take the long view. :) |
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    Location: the high desert | I truly am my own worst enemy, always have been. Yes some of my frustration is with prices, but I realize how stupid that is because there is absolutely nothing I can do about them. I have no desire to be a breeder, if I ever did it would only be for myself. I have thought about selling my current mare and buying a nice broodmare and breed for my own nice prospect but I have more money into my mare than I could sell her for and I'm just going to have to make it work because I am tired of losing, I always lose. Plus the most important thing I have to focus on right now is going to college and getting a career, gonna have to put the dreams aside for quite awhile. Anyways, again I apologize for anyone I offended. |
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  Location: Vinton, La. | I'm sure you would love to breed to the "in" horses as we all do. But if it's not in your price range, don't give up. Many of us have either been in your shoes or still are. Keep looking until you find one that suits your mare and meets your price requirements. They are out there, I promise!! :)
And remember, the stud fee will be the cheapest part of breeding your mare. Lol
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         Location: Where I am happiest | I agree with the above, dont be so hard on yourself! You defeat yourself before you ever get started. STOP IT!! You say you always lose, well your taking away any climb by beating yourself. STOP IT!! Dont be so self defeating. As far as breeding, you dont have to nor should you sell your mare to buy a broodmare. If you want to raise a foal, breed the mare you have. There really are alot of super nice horses just beginning their stallion career that are in the $1000 - $1500 rance with those designer bloodlines. Go to those horses. Just chose wisely. Just know, every single one of us has been where you are. You can climb that latter, but by golly you have to put your foot on that bottom step and pull yourself up! We will be your cheer leaders, but "I Cant" never did. |
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-03-05 6:42 AM I agree with the above, dont be so hard on yourself! You defeat yourself before you ever get started. STOP IT!! You say you always lose, well your taking away any climb by beating yourself. STOP IT!! Dont be so self defeating. As far as breeding, you dont have to nor should you sell your mare to buy a broodmare. If you want to raise a foal, breed the mare you have. There really are alot of super nice horses just beginning their stallion career that are in the $1000 - $1500 rance with those designer bloodlines. Go to those horses. Just chose wisely. Just know, every single one of us has been where you are. You can climb that latter, but by golly you have to put your foot on that bottom step and pull yourself up! We will be your cheer leaders, but "I Cant" never did. Ditto. This reminds of a friend who is in her 40's, has never placed higher than 3D, has several unregistered inexpensive horses and has a goal to make it to the NFR. She is so unhappy about her prospects of achieving this goal that she has made herself miserable. She won't watch barrel racing on TV, won't watch the NFR because it is "too hard"- does not want to watch others "doing what she can't". I finally told her to sell the 9 horses she has, buy a good prospect, quit feeling sorry for yourself and get to work. I told her it made me sad for her that she let this goal keep her from enjoying and recognizing all she has now. Have your goal but don't make yourself miserable while you work towards it. You are young and have a lot of years in front of you, don't write yourself off so easily.
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | I really think you need more positive people to hang around with. Hugs to you.
As far as breeding to the "more expensive", dont beat yourself up so bad. We all have been in your shoes. A lot of us are just older. We don't have kids at home anymore, we have better jobs, etc., Things that come with age.
We all can change. Make yourself a "can/savings", put all your change in it at first every Friday night. Then start adding dollar bills every Friday night. It won't take long and you can get a $1K stud fee. There are lots of them out there.
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     Location: Texas | I think there are plenty of excellent stallions standing for under $2000, and many even under 1500... If there's a stallion you want to breed to, save your pennies, watch for stallion auctions, contact early for an early booking discount if they have one, ask about are considerations...
Also, you don't HAVE to go all designer. There are PLENTY of excellent stallions who are not mainstream yet but will give you a nice colt. Sun of A Bunny is one of them. He's young, he's got an older not so common mix of bloodlines, and he hasn't had very many babies. But he's structurally correct, made really well, palomino to boot.. We bought his oldest colt and he's barely lunging in the round pen with a saddle on and we know he will be something special. All year long they have been doing breeding giveaways, contests, discounts.. just jump on those things.
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| I just watched the latest episode of "Razor's Edge" featuring Joleen Montgomery and Ryan Pedone. Both agreed about buying proven bloodlines, that they can see/feel a difference in "barrrel bred" colts but both talked about the how the momma is much more important than the stud. |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | I started a new thread for you so you can see there are ALOT of very nice, successful well bred stallions standing for under $1000 and if you dont want to breed yourself, you can bet these stallions have foals for sale that wont be an arm and a leg plus your first born.
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| Honestly, I'm not in the breeding game. I simply cannot afford it. It's not the stud fee that I cannot afford. That's the cheap part! I can't afford the mare care, the baby care, the good place for baby and mom to hang out, the vet calls, the this, the that, the feeding program, the deworming, the farrier care, the vaccination schedule, the blah, blah, blah. Many people have well over 10,000 invested in those babies by the time they're 2 years old, and those aren't even the fancy Dash Ta Fames, and Streaks to this, and the Frenchmans that, and that's way before they ever swing a leg over them and ask for a lope to see how they feel.
I'd much rather sort through the phenomenal prospects that go through sales, through the mom and pop breeding programs, the big time race breeders, and the girls that buy a bunch of prospects and keep one or two and sell the rest.
I'd also much, much rather buy a living breathing 2-5 year old that's at least track broke over taking a chance on a baby living from 0-2 years old, and only be insurable for the stud fee, not knowing if he can outrun a bumblebee or will have any of that heart and try we all hear about.
So since you're so young, and going to college, without any real career yet, and all the necessary thousands to turn out a truly nice prospect, maybe you could just cut yourself some slack and not get down on what you can or cannot afford. Promise yourself what you'll be able to swing someday, then work for that!
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| rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 8:02 AM
I just watched the latest episode of "Razor's Edge" featuring Joleen Montgomery and Ryan Pedone. Both agreed about buying proven bloodlines, that they can see/feel a difference in "barrrel bred" colts but both talked about the how the momma is much more important than the stud.
Correct me if im wrong but I thought they were handed prospects that already show great potential, not any run of the mill ta fame horse.
So the people they ride for have 100+ of colts per year and send the great few to the great trainers, so good luck if you are going to breed that super special true winner with one try per year. |
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      Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Iwish - 2015-03-05 9:10 PM I truly am my own worst enemy, always have been. Yes some of my frustration is with prices, but I realize how stupid that is because there is absolutely nothing I can do about them. I have no desire to be a breeder, if I ever did it would only be for myself. I have thought about selling my current mare and buying a nice broodmare and breed for my own nice prospect but I have more money into my mare than I could sell her for and I'm just going to have to make it work because I am tired of losing, I always lose. Plus the most important thing I have to focus on right now is going to college and getting a career, gonna have to put the dreams aside for quite awhile. Anyways, again I apologize for anyone I offended.
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:39 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 8:02 AM I just watched the latest episode of "Razor's Edge" featuring Joleen Montgomery and Ryan Pedone. Both agreed about buying proven bloodlines, that they can see/feel a difference in "barrrel bred" colts but both talked about the how the momma is much more important than the stud. Correct me if im wrong but I thought they were handed prospects that already show great potential, not any run of the mill ta fame horse. So the people they ride for have 100+ of colts per year and send the great few to the great trainers, so good luck if you are going to breed that super special true winner with one try per year.
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| Itsme - 2015-03-05 8:39 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 8:02 AM I just watched the latest episode of "Razor's Edge" featuring Joleen Montgomery and Ryan Pedone. Both agreed about buying proven bloodlines, that they can see/feel a difference in "barrrel bred" colts but both talked about the how the momma is much more important than the stud. Correct me if im wrong but I thought they were handed prospects that already show great potential, not any run of the mill ta fame horse. So the people they ride for have 100+ of colts per year and send the great few to the great trainers, so good luck if you are going to breed that super special true winner with one try per year.
Yes, they are given the best prospects form breeders who can afford to breed in numbers to get those special horses- my point was they consistently see that the great ones come from great momma's. Obviously the more you breed and put babies on the ground the more chances you have of finding that winner. I don't begrude breeders who have the $$ to have a huge program. I would have one of their rejects in my barn- I can't ride a top horse so don't need one but I do like a well bred nice looking horse and I can afford to buy one if I wanted too. As they said on the show, the barrel horse is becoming specialized and you see it in the faster times, why we are seeing mid 16's on a standard. If you can produce a better product, why not?? |
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| 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 8:53 AM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:39 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 8:02 AM I just watched the latest episode of "Razor's Edge" featuring Joleen Montgomery and Ryan Pedone. Both agreed about buying proven bloodlines, that they can see/feel a difference in "barrrel bred" colts but both talked about the how the momma is much more important than the stud. Correct me if im wrong but I thought they were handed prospects that already show great potential, not any run of the mill ta fame horse. So the people they ride for have 100+ of colts per year and send the great few to the great trainers, so good luck if you are going to breed that super special true winner with one try per year.
As long as you have a check book, I am sure they would take your money.
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM
I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream.
BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. |
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       Location: Oklahoma | Yes it is expensive to have the dreams we have. I have a nice stud (in my eyes) who is so versatile. He has decent bloodlines, but I can't afford to promote him like he deserves. He is expecting his first foal in 2015 and it will be out a mare I don't even own. I can't afford to buy high priced horses, so I buy mine as weanlings and yearlings and I start them myself under saddle. There are ways to do things. I've offered someone a partnership on a mare I have that I feel can produce some awesome foals. (She knows who she is ) I feel there are ways to get things done if you want them bad enough. |
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | Itsme - 2015-03-05 10:03 AM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 8:53 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:39 AM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 8:02 AM I just watched the latest episode of "Razor's Edge" featuring Joleen Montgomery and Ryan Pedone. Both agreed about buying proven bloodlines, that they can see/feel a difference in "barrrel bred" colts but both talked about the how the momma is much more important than the stud. Correct me if im wrong but I thought they were handed prospects that already show great potential, not any run of the mill ta fame horse. So the people they ride for have 100+ of colts per year and send the great few to the great trainers, so good luck if you are going to breed that super special true winner with one try per year. As long as you have a check book, I am sure they would take your money. Who would?
Any of the top riders you were talking about. Call them up. Jolene herself is really quite friendly. |
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      Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | TwistedK - 2015-03-06 8:17 AM Yes it is expensive to have the dreams we have. I have a nice stud (in my eyes ) who is so versatile. He has decent bloodlines, but I can't afford to promote him like he deserves. He is expecting his first foal in 2015 and it will be out a mare I don't even own. I can't afford to buy high priced horses, so I buy mine as weanlings and yearlings and I start them myself under saddle. There are ways to do things. I've offered someone a partnership on a mare I have that I feel can produce some awesome foals. (She knows who she is ) I feel there are ways to get things done if you want them bad enough.
   
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       Location: Oklahoma | Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM
hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM
I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream.
BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
We are not being led to believe that. I'm sorry you are so unhappy in your horses but many of us work with what we can afford. |
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           Location: Kansas | Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
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          Location: Kentucky | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 10:39 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. what?
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| Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
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      Location: The edge of no where | Good grief! It's been a while since I've seen so much b8tching and whining on a thread.....with that attitude, then no, you won't ever win. Go watch Amberley Snyder's videos for someone that is an overcomer. Get a freakin plan and go to work. Not everyone starts out with money. We bust our ass at work, at home, at the gym....if you want it bad enough, then make it happen. |
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           Location: Florida.. | MS2011 - 2015-03-05 11:00 AM Good grief! It's been a while since I've seen so much b8tching and whining on a thread.....with that attitude, then no, you won't ever win. Go watch Amberley Snyder's videos for someone that is an overcomer. Get a freakin plan and go to work. Not everyone starts out with money. We bust our ass at work, at home, at the gym....if you want it bad enough, then make it happen.
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | scwebster - 2015-03-05 10:11 AM I love Space Cowboys post. Sure we all initially dream of the NFR. I ride a gelding that we got for less than $500, my husband and I trained for roping and barrels. He has paid for himself MANY times over in the roping pen at all levels. I stole him back to run barrels at the amateur rodeos. I know I am not going to beat that $80,000 circut finalist horse but I am being competitive and am not swimming in debt, or out a ton of money on the cost of a mount. I go to my Mon-Friday job, am able to pay all of my bills, spend time with my husband and little girl. If someone brought me an NFR caliber horse, and the rig and told me to take off I would probably decline. I am all about chasing your dreams but for me personally I am living mine right where I am. I am competing within my means and having a great time to boot. :)
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I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream.
BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
Part of the weeding out process is to start with bloodlines and a physical type you mesh with. Whether those bloodlines are 'in fashion' or not. I happen to mesh better with horses that are turny, I have recently started riding some FWF grand babies that fit me to a tee. So that is what I gravitate toward. That's not to say I won't try something else for the right price. I keep my options open. But I am getting old, I want to go with bloodlines and physical type that I have had good luck with before. Saves me time and money (and frustration)in the long run. |
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| Just from personal experience, I don't breed horses, but I'm very close with someone that does breed barrel horses, I think it just depends on the combination of the type of horse you're looking for. Personally, I do not get along with all run bred horses, I've had one and I never had success with him. I personally like cowy, ratey horses, so therefore I have chose to continue to stick with horses that are half cow/run, which all come from my good friends breeding program. She has two studs, one all run off the track, and one that is a grandson of Doc O Lena. ALL of her proven babies have came from the combination of her Doc O Lena stud crossed with all running bred mares. But, none of them possess the characteristics of the mare, they all tend to take after their daddy. But it's to each it's own, Ryan Pedone and Jolene Montgomery, along with every other futurity/derby/open rider that is given horses to jockey, tend to ride all run bred horses. Although, they say to go for the mare's success, whose to say that the offspring with be anything like the mother? Just using my friends horses as an example, her proven horses come from cow breeding and they take after their dad. Another example is PG Dry Fire, look at his babies, they tend to take after the stud. Also, Streak of Fling, almost guaranteed, if you watch a horse out of Streak of Fling, it's going to be wicked fast and sink it's but into the ground and turn a barrel. I think it just depends! Maybe we should have some breeders comment on this and see how they feel!
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      Location: The edge of no where | 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 10:12 AM 
I've got this saved and use it on my screensaver... LOVE it! Sometimes you've just got to outwork them. I'm so flippin excited about the time change this wknd...I'll get to see my ponies in the daylight more than on wknds. I'm incredibly grateful that we sucked it up and put lights in 2 years ago...but riding in the winter at night in the COLD is NOT fun, however it does pay off. |
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   Location: OH | Sometimes people want to look at the end product like a Jolene Montgomery, this young lady has worked her tail off to get where she is and still does to this day. She started out just saddling horses and warming them up for Troy Crumrine and gradually learned, made the right connections and worked her way up the ladder to become an overnight sensation---YEARS in the making. |
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| Iwish - 2015-03-04 10:10 PM
I truly am my own worst enemy, always have been. Yes some of my frustration is with prices, but I realize how stupid that is because there is absolutely nothing I can do about them. I have no desire to be a breeder, if I ever did it would only be for myself. I have thought about selling my current mare and buying a nice broodmare and breed for my own nice prospect but I have more money into my mare than I could sell her for and I'm just going to have to make it work because I am tired of losing, I always lose. Plus the most important thing I have to focus on right now is going to college and getting a career, gonna have to put the dreams aside for quite awhile. Anyways, again I apologize for anyone I offended.
This post had me thinking, so I came back. You say you're tired of losing. Well, I'm here to tell you that there are a very certain few that can make their living owning, riding, training, and selling barrel horses. They usually don't have the horse for very long. If you own the horse for any time period, you are going to be sinking the money into them to keep them fit, sound, healthy, and working.
I'm a bit ashamed of the money I've lost on barrel horses throughout the last five years. I could very easily have purchased a nice proven pro horse and an excellent backup. I wish I had done so some days! 20/20 hindsight effect.
Still, I choose to see each loss as lesson. All those horses had problems. They had behavioral and physical issues that I learned to recognize and to sort through. I've spent so much money at the best vets in Texas that I deserve a plaque to hang in my house. I've also learned a ton about myself and how much I really want to run barrels to the best of my ability, and the levels I'm happy with, and what I can't accept. I'm also a lot better at recognizing what makes a good barrel horse than I was. (Old adage: Every horse can run barrels, not every horse should.)
Every situation in itself can be seen as a negative in some way. Every single horse can be seen as not good enough from the right angle. Every single rider can be seen as needing riding lessons if you only watch the frame by frame. Every single daily activity can be seen as wasteful and useless when you view it with the right (or wrong) lens. It's a matter of sucking it up, getting right with yourself, changing stuff until you're happy, and saying, "I want that." and then doing it.
You want to breed to a nice stud? First find out if your mare is worth breeding to in the first place. Is she black type? Has she won at a higher level? Has she got bloodlines that will sell if you don't like or can't keep the colt? Has the mare held up under the stress and strain of heavy hauling? What has she done to deserve to reproduce? Then, once you can justify that list, find a stud that you strongly feel would suit her conformationally and personality wise and make a nice happy medium of horse flesh. Fee higher than your check book? Go pick up cans in the road ditch. Take on some outside horses. Tend bar at night. Unload grain at the feedstore. Stock shelves at walmart. Get enough money together and get it done. This is America, and you have the opportunity to stop sniveling and get to work.
People that whine about other people having it handed to them, so what??? Those good riders that turn down nice horses every year have paid their dues, I promise you. Those folks with money, I don't care I'd they inherited it. It's an absolute blast to try to beat them on less dollars. If you're not having fun, what is the freaking point anyway? It's all about perspective, and I feel sorry for people that can't give themselves a break or a backbone depending what's needed, and carry on with a big smile in the face of life isn't fair.
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      Location: The edge of no where | classicpotatochip - 2015-03-05 11:33 Fee higher than your check book? Go pick up cans in the road ditch. Take on some outside horses. Tend bar at night. Unload grain at the feedstore. Stock shelves at walmart. Get enough money together and get it done. This is America, and you have the opportunity to stop sniveling and get to work.
People that whine about other people having it handed to them, so what??? Those good riders that turn down nice horses every year have paid their dues, I promise you. Those folks with money, I don't care I'd they inherited it. It's an absolute blast to try to beat them on less dollars. If you're not having fun, what is the freaking point anyway? It's all about perspective, and I feel sorry for people that can't give themselves a break or a backbone depending what's needed, and carry on with a big smile in the face of life isn't fair.
     Suck it up buttercup! Study up, work on your riding, make the hard decisions with your horses.....those top trainers have **** sure paid their dues. Life isn't fair, a fair is where you go to show hogs. |
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  Location: IL | 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 10:12 AM  I agree 100% with this post!
First off I didn't see the other thread that you were commenting on, however, I understand where you are coming from. With that said, there's no reason to be so hard on yourself. Like others have said, there are options. You can breed to a less proven stud or save your money for a higher priced stud. For me personally, I don't have the money to go the breeding route. Realistically, the stud fee is actually the cheapest portion. So much money & time is put into those babies before you're ever able to swing a leg over them. And then you really don't know until you start riding & training on them if they'll turn out the way you want.Not to mention horses are injury prone by nature. And that's a lot of money and time to invest to possibly have things not end up the way you want.
I'm a bargain shopper. And honestly, I'm okay with that. Like I said, I don't have the money to go the breeding route. As much as I'd love to get my hands on a Streak of Fling baby, it's just not going to happen for me. But that's not to stop me from finding a horse that has the right conformation, moves well, and has the drive or willingness to be a great horse for me. Buying the top bloodlines in the industry isn't in the cards for me. So I went out and I bought a TB filly that only cost me $300. It actually cost me more to have her shipped to me than to buy her. I looked for a horse that was built to be able to get around a barrel and was fast out of the gate but wasn't able to go the distance on the track. I watched footage of her races and saw that she fought to hold onto that lead as long as she could. That showed that she had heart & "want to."
I know track horses aren't for everybody. However, they are a good option when looking for a prospect on a budget. Just make sure you do your homework before purchasing.
I got my mare as a late 4 year old. The start of her 5 year old year I did nothing but ground work and foundation training under saddle with her. I wanted to make sure she had a good handle on her before she ever saw a barrel. Her 6 year old year, I started working on the pattern with her. And this year, as a 7 year old I will be hauling her to shows. So like that picture says, if you don't have the funds, sometimes its going to take busting your rear end to get there.
(Sorry for the book, but there's no reason for someone to get down on themselves & give up on a dream. You can get there, it just depends on what you're willing to give up & how hard you want to work for it)
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| I didnt see the thread and am not a breeder but my opinion... there are a lot of local studs in your area. Your area is probably different than mine. But for example, growing up there was a stud... he was a 1d horse himself and he was a hot commodity. His offpsrings were pretty much all 1d horses, some 2d but they won Congress, AQHA Worlds, NBHA Finals, etc... if you asked about him in Texas...chances are people wouldnt have heard of him. But in the 5 state region, he was a legend. He just wasnt campaigned like a lot of those high dollar studs.
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    Location: East Texas | Didn't I see where one of the girls at the American paid $800 for her horse?
I know my kids are competing against people who paid more for their hats than we paid for our horses.
I am about to trade one of my "bloodline" horses for an unregistered horse and I think I am getting the better deal.
Some of these posters my sound harsh, but they are being honest. Find a way to make it happen. If your friends do not think you can do it, find new friends. If you want to be a millionaire, find millionaires to talk to. If you want to be a top rider, find top riders to hang out with and talk to. I am new to rodeo and had no idea about this sport until a few years ago (and still do not know much) when my kids wanted to start riding, but I have found several NFR contestants and prca members that live in the area that are extremely nice and willing to help out. My son spent 14hrs at an event a couple of weeks ago, and the guys were awesome with him. They gave him a back number, made him feel welcome, and let him stay behind the chutes the whole time. I am going to throw in a pic of him to ask this..... Do you have the wonder, amazement, and joy that a 7yr old has for the sport? If not, change your attitude.
The mental part of what you want to do is huge. Now go make it happen.
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    Location: East Texas | Didn't I see where one of the girls at the American paid $800 for her horse?
I know my kids are competing against people who paid more for their hats than we paid for our horses.
I am about to trade one of my "bloodline" horses for an unregistered horse and I think I am getting the better deal.
Some of these posters my sound harsh, but they are being honest. Find a way to make it happen. If your friends do not think you can do it, find new friends. If you want to be a millionaire, find millionaires to talk to. If you want to be a top rider, find top riders to hang out with and talk to. I am new to rodeo and had no idea about this sport until a few years ago (and still do not know much) when my kids wanted to start riding, but I have found several NFR contestants and prca members that live in the area that are extremely nice and willing to help out. My son spent 14hrs at an event a couple of weeks ago, and the guys were awesome with him. They gave him a back number, made him feel welcome, and let him stay behind the chutes the whole time. I was going to throw in a pic of him to ask this..... Do you have the wonder, amazement, and joy that a 7yr old has for the sport? If not, change your attitude.
The mental part of what you want to do is huge. Now go make it happen.
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| Mighty Broke - 2015-03-05 11:32 AM Sometimes people want to look at the end product like a Jolene Montgomery, this young lady has worked her tail off to get where she is and still does to this day. She started out just saddling horses and warming them up for Troy Crumrine and gradually learned, made the right connections and worked her way up the ladder to become an overnight sensation---YEARS in the making.
  
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| casualdust07 - 2015-03-05 1:47 PM craigslist has done wonders for me. 
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         Location: Where I am happiest | All you defeated and deflated, please please take the time to really watch and listen to this. This is older video, of Amberly Snyder giving a speech on "Over Comming Obstacles". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P278mxzDDYc |
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| CrossDRanch - 2015-03-05 12:57 PM Didn't I see where one of the girls at the American paid $800 for her horse? I know my kids are competing against people who paid more for their hats than we paid for our horses. I am about to trade one of my "bloodline" horses for an unregistered horse and I think I am getting the better deal. Some of these posters my sound harsh, but they are being honest. Find a way to make it happen. If your friends do not think you can do it, find new friends. If you want to be a millionaire, find millionaires to talk to. If you want to be a top rider, find top riders to hang out with and talk to. I am new to rodeo and had no idea about this sport until a few years ago (and still do not know much) when my kids wanted to start riding, but I have found several NFR contestants and prca members that live in the area that are extremely nice and willing to help out. My son spent 14hrs at an event a couple of weeks ago, and the guys were awesome with him. They gave him a back number, made him feel welcome, and let him stay behind the chutes the whole time. I was going to throw in a pic of him to ask this..... Do you have the wonder, amazement, and joy that a 7yr old has for the sport? If not, change your attitude. The mental part of what you want to do is huge. Now go make it happen.
Check out the back story on Brittany Diaz's horse, Rootie ... http://ontherodeoroad.com/nfrbarrelracerbritanydiaz/
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| rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
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| 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"?
I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one.  |
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| Itsme - 2015-03-05 3:26 PM
3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"?
I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one. 
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rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
I think you are looking for an argument. Many of us don't have the bloodlines and we are just fine |
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      Location: The edge of no where | Itsme - 2015-03-05 3:26 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here... I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"? I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one. 
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:26 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself. not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here... I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"? I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one.  There really are a lot of good trainers out there. Not just the girls we see on TV. You just have to be careful and choose wisely.
Edited to say - a lot of the girls we see on TV - I know too much personal dirt on and wouldn't send mine to them anyway. LOL
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           Location: Kansas | Itsme - 2015-03-05 3:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
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| I didn't read your original thread, but I also couldn't afford to breed to one of the "Top" designer stallions out there...so I purchased one of their grand get as a foal and will make his name for myself. Stupid? Perhaps. Dreaming like a 10 year old girl playing with Breyer horses? Maybe. But if I do it I will have my own stallion to market and charge breeding fees for, and if he doesn't make it...I will have one fast sonnofa... to ride and win on as a gelding. (You could purchase 3 or four of my little colt for one of the breeding fees to "the greats.")
Think outside the box...you might find yourself with the upper hand. And I agree with others, it is fun to see how many of the fancy, expensive horses you can beat on your "Craigslist Specials." Or at least I think so.  |
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| 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:38 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:26 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here... I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"? I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one.  There really are a lot of good trainers out there. Not just the girls we see on TV. You just have to be careful and choose wisely.
The best money I ever spent was sending our horses for tuning. Our trainer is one of the best hands in Texas and my girls riding improved so much people were asking what we were doing different- which was having the horses tuned on by someone who knows way more than we do and then under her guidance, teaching the girls how to keep them working. |
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     Location: In The Land of Cotton | rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 4:45 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:38 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:26 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here... I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"? I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one.  There really are a lot of good trainers out there. Not just the girls we see on TV. You just have to be careful and choose wisely.
The best money I ever spent was sending our horses for tuning. Our trainer is one of the best hands in Texas and my girls riding improved so much people were asking what we were doing different- which was having the horses tuned on by someone who knows way more than we do and then under her guidance, teaching the girls how to keep them working.
There are a lot of people in areas that are willing to do that. Having someone close by really makes a difference. I have to travel at least two hours in the backwoods to get to someone. But, when I make an effort it shows. |
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   Location: WI | rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 3:45 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:38 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:26 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here... I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"? I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one.  There really are a lot of good trainers out there. Not just the girls we see on TV. You just have to be careful and choose wisely.
The best money I ever spent was sending our horses for tuning. Our trainer is one of the best hands in Texas and my girls riding improved so much people were asking what we were doing different- which was having the horses tuned on by someone who knows way more than we do and then under her guidance, teaching the girls how to keep them working.
Ditto! I've been riding/training my own for 20+ yrs and what a trainer can get done in a month amazes me! Highly recommended!! |
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| jbhoot - 2015-03-04 8:15 PM
Keep in mind that all the great studs where a no name horse in someone's back yard at one time.
Like a colt that the owners wanted gelded, but he was injured and could not be cut that day. He then went to the track and had to earn his proper regestration papers, because thoes who approved the horse felt he was to thourobreed type. Oo ya his name was Dash for Cash. And look what he did!!!!! |
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| OP - I understand prices are high, but there are so many reasonable priced well bred prospects out there, look save save some more and keep looking!
I have huge dreams, HUGE, are they expensive yup, am i rich not even close. Dreams arein our heart for a reason, even if I do not run into the areanas in my dreams im going to love this jjourney and cherish ever victories on the why there. Despite all the setbacks i just cant give up. Have I walked away for a bit to 're group YUP but thats not giving up, its stepping back so you can step forward in the feature RIGHT. (Or left ha ha i made a funny)
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       Location: So. Cali. | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 1:39 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 3:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here... 
 This response has nothing to do with the OP. I just wanted to say thank you for this meme. I will be saving it for future use... |
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       Location: So. Cali. | I made the decision to breed my personal barrel horse this season. I too can't afford the top dollar proven studs as much as I would've liked too. Since, in the perfect world, this foal will only be mine, I figured up what I had to have and shopped with that. It is unforunate because my mare is well bred and proven, even with the discounts for proven mares fee's are still out of my range, especially when you take in all the other AI fees. So I kept it within my personal budget and what I personally wanted.
I dont hold it against any of the stallion owners. In a way I believe it's great to have higher stud fees, I think it allows a higher line of mares to be bred to your stallion. But I may also think my mare is one of those high line horses and the stallion owner or the next mare owner may not. All a matter of opinion.
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| Im woundering what do you feel is high, there are a lot Stallions that are proven and have proven get up here (canada) standing around the 1,000 mark. To me that is very reasonable price.
Like Corona Cartell is a little out of my budget but there are lots of nice studs around 1K
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Hard work will trump talent when talent doesnt work hard. Fact!
I also want to add, really in the grand scheme of things, breeding for barrel horses is in it's infancy. It really wasnt that many years ago we were all still using every other disciplines has beens and rejects. It hasnt been all that long that we even started really tracking earnings and sires and sire lines. So I do not believe we have yet found all the families who are or would be proficient in barrel racing. |
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| Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
Admit it.
You liked your own post. |
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 Career in Looney Tune Land
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    Location: the high desert | Sorry it has taken me this long to respond, been a busy day. So let me start off by saying I was not meaning this as a "poor me" thread, in order for everyone to see where my point of view was coming from I had to tell you my way of thinking. I will try to answer everything best i can without getting to lengthy...well, actually i wont because it doesnt really pertain to my original statement. But I do want to say this forum is full of kind people who will lend a helping hand when you are down and will help pull you back up. So unless you guys are wanting to hear more of why i am the way i am, I will keep it to myself and spare you. |
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2015-03-05 5:32 PM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
Admit it.
You liked your own post.
Nope. We have been training in 20 degree weather, but ill give it a vote up now. |
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| MS2011 - 2015-03-05 3:34 PM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 3:26 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here... I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"? I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one. 
If she's got your charming personality.....good luck finding a trainer.
We have a great lady we work with, multi futurity winner, breeder, trainer and she has a older stud that still outruns some of the "newer and better" models. |
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        Location: Gainesville, TX | Itsme - 2015-03-05 3:01 PM
rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them.
So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here...
A lot of people can not and even do not want to breed to a name brand stud. But some of dang sure want to and work our butts off to do so. When you can't breed 40 or more mares, when you've only got a couple to see what you get, you can bet some people want to stack the best odds they can for success and breed to those lines known to be successful and who sell well if the horse does not pan out for whatever reason. Personally many people have worked hard to try for that chance. There is nothing wrong with someone wanting a horse bred a certain way. I'm darn proud to work on having name brand horses and have bred some nice ones. The OP indicated she wouldn't mind having a nicer bred horse at some point. Most of the comments have just been supporting her in her dreams. She doesn't have to have a name brand but if she wants one at some point there's no darn reason she shouldn't be encouraged to go after her dreams. |
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Iwish, you say you can't afford the horse you dream of, I say you can. It might not be this year or next, but I guarantee you, if you start putting $20 a month in a coffee can, one day you can get that dream horse. I totally agree it doesn't have to be a name brand and totally agree that hard work will make it happen. You are so hard on yourself and you really need to work on that. I know you have a story, but stop letting that dictate you. Only you can stop letting negatives rule you. My friend, Jessi, always says that the juice is worth the squeeze.....and, I laugh at her......but, she is right. The end result is worth the sacrifice and hard work. You can do anything that you set your mind to doing. |
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    Location: the high desert | I like that idea LRQHS...I may just go and start that today. I don't know if barrel racing will be my "sport", but it certainly would still be nice to look at that horse everyday knowing they got a power packed pedigree. Mainly because i have never owned one, but i don't mind having a "no name" pedigree horse, I really dont. I love the idea of a underdog and the only reason that horse is a underdog is because it doesn't look impressive on paper or no papers at all. My self doubt holds me back so so so so much, not just with horses but in everyday life. I have no one to blame but myself (I have a supportive loving family, there not horse people so some things they don't understand but the still support me the best they can), I and only I have engraved self doubt so deeply that I'm not sure how to function without it. |
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| Itsme - 2015-03-05 8:39 PM
MS2011 - 2015-03-05 3:34 PM
Itsme - 2015-03-05 3:26 PM 3canstorun - 2015-03-05 3:20 PM Itsme - 2015-03-05 4:01 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-05 9:48 AM Itsme - 2015-03-05 9:05 AM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-05 8:49 AM I'm right there with you. I have a big dream, and unforunately being a single mom with a psycho ex-baby daddy....I will never be able to accomplish that dream. BS! Were being led to believe you need a ta fame horse when in fact you need to weed through a ton of horses of any breed to get THE ONE, some people have the weeding out part done for them. So what they have the weeding out done for them? They are matching the best horses with the best riders, seems like a good plan to me.
We are not led to believe we have to have a name brand. I am capable of thinking for myself.
not the feeling i get from 99% of the posters on here... I doubt it is 99%.
What do you want to breed to?
And, if you could would you send a prospect to a "top trainer"? I dont want to breed and no I wouldnt ship any of our horses off to a trainer, but I would ship my daughter off to one. 
If she's got your charming personality.....good luck finding a trainer.
We have a great lady we work with, multi futurity winner, breeder, trainer and she has a older stud that still outruns some of the "newer and better" models.
Do you work with Wendy? She's the only CO person I can think of that fits your description. |
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Iwish - 2015-03-06 8:20 AM I like that idea LRQHS...I may just go and start that today. I don't know if barrel racing will be my "sport", but it certainly would still be nice to look at that horse everyday knowing they got a power packed pedigree. Mainly because i have never owned one, but i don't mind having a "no name" pedigree horse, I really dont. I love the idea of a underdog and the only reason that horse is a underdog is because it doesn't look impressive on paper or no papers at all. My self doubt holds me back so so so so much, not just with horses but in everyday life. I have no one to blame but myself (I have a supportive loving family, there not horse people so some things they don't understand but the still support me the best they can), I and only I have engraved self doubt so deeply that I'm not sure how to function without it.
Did you watch the video clip I posted for you yesterday on the previous page? If not, please do, and really, I mean REALLY listen to it. |
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  Shipwrecked and Flat Out Zapped
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | I think a lot of times, we are our own worst enemy. I know that I have been mine. When you decide that you are tired of being in a certain mind set and try to make changes, it really starts making a difference. Because of BHW, I have been able to surrond myself with great friends that encourage me and send me cheesy notes telling me I can do it lol. It has made a difference in my life. And, believe me, I started slow. Just fixing one little thing at a time. Something simple as looking in the mirror every morning and saying one thing positive about myself like, you are smart or you deserve to be happy. I even wrote things on my mirror in the bathroom. I'm just rambling lol. You get the idea. Just don't set such strict limitations on yourself. Ease up. You can do anything you set your mind to. |
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| I know I didn't see the original post but I have gathered enough to see whats going on.
There's this girl I know, she didn't have a lot of positive in her life, and at one point when things got bad she wanted out. She didn't go through with her plans, she just did away with those negative people, even if that was her own family. She had to make her own horses, and studied hard about how to be the best rider. She didn't have anyone to "train" her, but God gave her good horses to teach her along the way. Tragedy happen to the first horse she raised, and was winning Texas Circuit Rodeos, then one summer, that horse fell victim of west nile. She struggled, but finally was blessed with two nice finished horses, one registered, one grade.. Those horses along with hard work got her a rodeo scholarship..... Then what happened, some more bad, a wreck with one horse, then a wreck by herself.... lost the scholarship cause no horse to ride at that level anymore... So she sat down and said what are your goals? To not only win, but to be the best on the pro circuit, and produce great horses. So she decided to sell the one horse she still could compete on and bought a young stallion, who wasn't trained, heck wasn't even broke, but said I have to finish college first. So she trained for 3 years this stallion who was a 14.2 little guy, he had heart,,mind, ability, conformation, but he's bloodlines were good typical cow lines every QH has. Alot of the greats off the papers or goes back to... Then she finished college got a job, and started hauling him, he got hurt, a couple times, playing in the pasture..... So finally two years, a total of 5 years she is finally competing, foals are on the ground, and she is building a broodmare band up. Her stallion is doing terrific handle everything she throws at him like he has seen it 1,000 times. The best horse she has ever swung her leg around...
Yes this is my story, I had to work my tail off, and persevere through a lot. I believe that God allows things to happen for a reason when it is the time for it to happen. Now, you can afford the horse you want, and guess what he does't have to have those "lines",.... here's a little secret the horse makes the bloodlines, the bloodlines don't make the horse. I am with y'all on the prices of breeding that's where I don't want to ever charge ridiculous amounts for breeding, even when we win the NFR one day. I know there are mares out there who are built right and proven, that are not Own Daughters of , that will make a great cross.
Everyday a champion is born, heck it could be the guy next's door trail riding horse, or an oopsiedaisey that someone wants to get rid of. The point is stay positive, set goals, work hard, and COWGIRL UP!
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     Location: In a happy place | LRQHS - 2015-03-06 8:33 AM I think a lot of times, we are our own worst enemy. I know that I have been mine. When you decide that you are tired of being in a certain mind set and try to make changes, it really starts making a difference. Because of BHW, I have been able to surrond myself with great friends that encourage me and send me cheesy notes telling me I can do it lol. It has made a difference in my life. And, believe me, I started slow. Just fixing one little thing at a time. Something simple as looking in the mirror every morning and saying one thing positive about myself like, you are smart or you deserve to be happy. I even wrote things on my mirror in the bathroom.
I'm just rambling lol. You get the idea. Just don't set such strict limitations on yourself. Ease up. You can do anything you set your mind to.
You can do it my friend! You are a wonderful giving person. And you deserve good things in your life! Here is hoping for a really good breeding season with El Scorcho! |
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | sorrel horse ranch - 2015-03-06 9:07 AM LRQHS - 2015-03-06 8:33 AM I think a lot of times, we are our own worst enemy. I know that I have been mine. When you decide that you are tired of being in a certain mind set and try to make changes, it really starts making a difference. Because of BHW, I have been able to surrond myself with great friends that encourage me and send me cheesy notes telling me I can do it lol. It has made a difference in my life. And, believe me, I started slow. Just fixing one little thing at a time. Something simple as looking in the mirror every morning and saying one thing positive about myself like, you are smart or you deserve to be happy. I even wrote things on my mirror in the bathroom.
I'm just rambling lol. You get the idea. Just don't set such strict limitations on yourself. Ease up. You can do anything you set your mind to. You can do it my friend! You are a wonderful giving person. And you deserve good things in your life! Here is hoping for a really good breeding season with El Scorcho!
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     Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Don't buy a stud. Buy a good make and produce a stud. If you are in the right place at the right time there are several wweanlings running through local sales that have awesome pedigrees. They don't always end up at a prestige registered horse sale.I have seen several. You can always change your stars. |
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       Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | LRQHS - 2015-03-06 8:33 AM
I think a lot of times, we are our own worst enemy. I know that I have been mine. When you decide that you are tired of being in a certain mind set and try to make changes, it really starts making a difference. Because of BHW, I have been able to surrond myself with great friends that encourage me and send me cheesy notes telling me I can do it lol. It has made a difference in my life. And, believe me, I started slow. Just fixing one little thing at a time. Something simple as looking in the mirror every morning and saying one thing positive about myself like, you are smart or you deserve to be happy. I even wrote things on my mirror in the bathroom. I'm just rambling lol. You get the idea. Just don't set such strict limitations on yourself. Ease up. You can do anything you set your mind to.
Isn't this the truth. My biggest fault is I want everything now ... Kinda impatient when I know what I want. I can be patient and I know I shouldn't jump on something but it's really hard. Baby steps , Rome wasn't built in a day. If you want something find a way even if it takes a few years. It makes it 10 times better when you get it too!!! |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | LRQHS - 2015-03-06 8:33 AM I think a lot of times, we are our own worst enemy. I know that I have been mine. When you decide that you are tired of being in a certain mind set and try to make changes, it really starts making a difference. Because of BHW, I have been able to surrond myself with great friends that encourage me and send me cheesy notes telling me I can do it lol. It has made a difference in my life. And, believe me, I started slow. Just fixing one little thing at a time. Something simple as looking in the mirror every morning and saying one thing positive about myself like, you are smart or you deserve to be happy. I even wrote things on my mirror in the bathroom.
I'm just rambling lol. You get the idea. Just don't set such strict limitations on yourself. Ease up. You can do anything you set your mind to.
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 Career in Looney Tune Land
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    Location: the high desert | Thank you everyone. ThreeCorners I have not had a chance to watch it but I will as soon as I can. LRQHS I think you have a wonderful program going and I think it will do nothing but take off. |
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      Location: NE Texas | First of all, LRQHS, i'm so proud of you and so proud to call you my friend! There is big success on it's way for your program through the colts you're raising!
Iwish, happiness is a choice and it's one that we all have to sit down with ourselves and say, I CHOOSE to be happy, I CHOOSE to believe in myself, I CHOOSE to set goals and work towards them. I'm a firm believer in setting goals and working towards them, and it's important to set both short term and long term goals....stair steps if you will.....it's your personal road map to success. A short term goal can be as simple a task as getting up every morning and showering, or going out and brushing your horse every day, or even simply saying something nice to someone. It's important to start goal making at the ground floor. Short term goals need to be attainable, but they need to be stair steps to working toward achieving your long term goals. What is the harm in believing in yourself and choosing to see the positive in things as opposed to the negative. The only thing you're lacking, Iwish, is a change in mindset and that is very attainable!
Success can absolutely be attained without a dash ta this or frenchmans that or streak of this. I don't have any of those in my barn, and honestly I don't want any. I have owned a Dash Ta Fame....two actually...i've had an own son and an own daughter. I've also had an own daughter of Frenchmans Guy. All three were nice horses, but what I found for myself with those kind of prospects and with that kind of money invested was that I put even more pressure on myself for them to make top notch horses....I found myself being my own worst enemy because of the pressure I put on myself to protect my investment and eventually make a profit and it wasn't enjoyable for me....I found my expectations for those horses being higher and if they didn't turn out to be world class, then the disappointment was even greater.
What works better for me is finding nicely bred prospects that are by up and coming stallions that are sons of daughters of great horses. They are more affordable and I have found that i'm able to take the pressure off of myself and my colts. Those that don't make world class horses still make nice horses for people wanting 2D -3D horses, and there is still some profit in my original investment. :)
I hope that you can find your happiness and can make the choice toward having a positive attitude. It really is just a choice. There are alot of people on this board who are great motivators, great friends, and overall great people. None of us are ca-billionaires that I know of. :)
Great luck to you, and I hope you will find someone to help you on this journey. It sounds like you're young and have alot of learning and living to do....trust me that you will get there if you set your goals where they are attainable and stair step them toward your ultimate goal. Along the way your ultimate goal may change, and that is ok! The journey is the best part of the ride....not the destination. I hope you can learn to enjoy the journey and as LRQHS said, SQUEEZE THE JUICE!!!! |
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | LRQHS - 2015-03-06 8:33 AM I think a lot of times, we are our own worst enemy. I know that I have been mine. When you decide that you are tired of being in a certain mind set and try to make changes, it really starts making a difference. Because of BHW, I have been able to surrond myself with great friends that encourage me and send me cheesy notes telling me I can do it lol. It has made a difference in my life. And, believe me, I started slow. Just fixing one little thing at a time. Something simple as looking in the mirror every morning and saying one thing positive about myself like, you are smart or you deserve to be happy. I even wrote things on my mirror in the bathroom.
I'm just rambling lol. You get the idea. Just don't set such strict limitations on yourself. Ease up. You can do anything you set your mind to.
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | LRQHS - 2015-03-06 8:33 AM I think a lot of times, we are our own worst enemy. I know that I have been mine. When you decide that you are tired of being in a certain mind set and try to make changes, it really starts making a difference. Because of BHW, I have been able to surrond myself with great friends that encourage me and send me cheesy notes telling me I can do it lol. It has made a difference in my life. And, believe me, I started slow. Just fixing one little thing at a time. Something simple as looking in the mirror every morning and saying one thing positive about myself like, you are smart or you deserve to be happy. I even wrote things on my mirror in the bathroom.
I'm just rambling lol. You get the idea. Just don't set such strict limitations on yourself. Ease up. You can do anything you set your mind to.
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          Location: Riding Crackhead. | LRQHS - 2015-03-06 8:33 AM I think a lot of times, we are our own worst enemy. I know that I have been mine. When you decide that you are tired of being in a certain mind set and try to make changes, it really starts making a difference. Because of BHW, I have been able to surrond myself with great friends that encourage me and send me cheesy notes telling me I can do it lol. It has made a difference in my life. And, believe me, I started slow. Just fixing one little thing at a time. Something simple as looking in the mirror every morning and saying one thing positive about myself like, you are smart or you deserve to be happy. I even wrote things on my mirror in the bathroom.
I'm just rambling lol. You get the idea. Just don't set such strict limitations on yourself. Ease up. You can do anything you set your mind to.
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          Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | See why I love, Jessi? She is Herbie and the best darn inspiration ever. I print things she writes me and re-read them all the time for motivation :) |
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      Location: The edge of no where | Herbie - 2015-03-06 11:21 AM First of all, LRQHS, i'm so proud of you and so proud to call you my friend! There is big success on it's way for your program through the colts you're raising!
Iwish, happiness is a choice and it's one that we all have to sit down with ourselves and say, I CHOOSE to be happy, I CHOOSE to believe in myself, I CHOOSE to set goals and work towards them. I'm a firm believer in setting goals and working towards them, and it's important to set both short term and long term goals....stair steps if you will.....it's your personal road map to success. A short term goal can be as simple a task as getting up every morning and showering, or going out and brushing your horse every day, or even simply saying something nice to someone. It's important to start goal making at the ground floor. Short term goals need to be attainable, but they need to be stair steps to working toward achieving your long term goals. What is the harm in believing in yourself and choosing to see the positive in things as opposed to the negative. The only thing you're lacking, Iwish, is a change in mindset and that is very attainable!
Success can absolutely be attained without a dash ta this or frenchmans that or streak of this. I don't have any of those in my barn, and honestly I don't want any. I have owned a Dash Ta Fame....two actually...i've had an own son and an own daughter. I've also had an own daughter of Frenchmans Guy. All three were nice horses, but what I found for myself with those kind of prospects and with that kind of money invested was that I put even more pressure on myself for them to make top notch horses....I found myself being my own worst enemy because of the pressure I put on myself to protect my investment and eventually make a profit and it wasn't enjoyable for me....I found my expectations for those horses being higher and if they didn't turn out to be world class, then the disappointment was even greater.
What works better for me is finding nicely bred prospects that are by up and coming stallions that are sons of daughters of great horses. They are more affordable and I have found that i'm able to take the pressure off of myself and my colts. Those that don't make world class horses still make nice horses for people wanting 2D -3D horses, and there is still some profit in my original investment. :)
I hope that you can find your happiness and can make the choice toward having a positive attitude. It really is just a choice. There are alot of people on this board who are great motivators, great friends, and overall great people. None of us are ca-billionaires that I know of. :)
Great luck to you, and I hope you will find someone to help you on this journey. It sounds like you're young and have alot of learning and living to do....trust me that you will get there if you set your goals where they are attainable and stair step them toward your ultimate goal. Along the way your ultimate goal may change, and that is ok! The journey is the best part of the ride....not the destination. I hope you can learn to enjoy the journey and as LRQHS said, SQUEEZE THE JUICE!!!!
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The Man In The Glass
Peter Dale Wimbrow Sr.
When you get what you want in your struggle for self
And the world makes you king for a day
Just go to the mirror and look at yourself
And see what that man has to say.
For it isn’t your father, or mother, or wife
Whose judgment upon you must pass
The fellow whose verdict counts most in your life
Is the one staring back from the glass.
He’s the fellow to please – never mind all the rest
For he’s with you, clear to the end
And you’ve passed your most difficult, dangerous test
If the man in the glass is your friend.
You may fool the whole world down the pathway of years
And get pats on the back as you pass
But your final reward will be heartache and tears
If you’ve cheated the man in the glass.
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    Location: the high desert | Yes LRQHS, I can absolutely see why you love Herbie. What you said Herbie really hit home for me and I am going to print that out and read that anytime I feel my self doubt and negativety holding me back. Mighty broke, I'm also going to print out that poem you posted. I have already printed out some of the stories you guys have been kind enough to share and I'm going to be saving this thread. I can't thank you guys enough. Now on those days were my self doubt and negativety rise up I will have something to beat it down with. |
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      Location: NE Texas | Iwish - 2015-03-06 12:45 PM Yes LRQHS, I can absolutely see why you love Herbie. What you said Herbie really hit home for me and I am going to print that out and read that anytime I feel my self doubt and negativety holding me back. Mighty broke, I'm also going to print out that poem you posted. I have already printed out some of the stories you guys have been kind enough to share and I'm going to be saving this thread. I can't thank you guys enough. Now on those days were my self doubt and negativety rise up I will have something to beat it down with.
You're very welcome....we all have days we are down. And there are all days we need picking up. Remember this place is a family of great people and we're here for ya! Just shoot one of us a PM and we can lift each other up! |
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 Tried and True
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Herbie - 2015-03-06 11:21 AM First of all, LRQHS, i'm so proud of you and so proud to call you my friend! There is big success on it's way for your program through the colts you're raising!
Iwish, happiness is a choice and it's one that we all have to sit down with ourselves and say, I CHOOSE to be happy, I CHOOSE to believe in myself, I CHOOSE to set goals and work towards them. I'm a firm believer in setting goals and working towards them, and it's important to set both short term and long term goals....stair steps if you will.....it's your personal road map to success. A short term goal can be as simple a task as getting up every morning and showering, or going out and brushing your horse every day, or even simply saying something nice to someone. It's important to start goal making at the ground floor. Short term goals need to be attainable, but they need to be stair steps to working toward achieving your long term goals. What is the harm in believing in yourself and choosing to see the positive in things as opposed to the negative. The only thing you're lacking, Iwish, is a change in mindset and that is very attainable!
Success can absolutely be attained without a dash ta this or frenchmans that or streak of this. I don't have any of those in my barn, and honestly I don't want any. I have owned a Dash Ta Fame....two actually...i've had an own son and an own daughter. I've also had an own daughter of Frenchmans Guy. All three were nice horses, but what I found for myself with those kind of prospects and with that kind of money invested was that I put even more pressure on myself for them to make top notch horses....I found myself being my own worst enemy because of the pressure I put on myself to protect my investment and eventually make a profit and it wasn't enjoyable for me....I found my expectations for those horses being higher and if they didn't turn out to be world class, then the disappointment was even greater.
What works better for me is finding nicely bred prospects that are by up and coming stallions that are sons of daughters of great horses. They are more affordable and I have found that i'm able to take the pressure off of myself and my colts. Those that don't make world class horses still make nice horses for people wanting 2D -3D horses, and there is still some profit in my original investment. :)
I hope that you can find your happiness and can make the choice toward having a positive attitude. It really is just a choice. There are alot of people on this board who are great motivators, great friends, and overall great people. None of us are ca-billionaires that I know of. :)
Great luck to you, and I hope you will find someone to help you on this journey. It sounds like you're young and have alot of learning and living to do....trust me that you will get there if you set your goals where they are attainable and stair step them toward your ultimate goal. Along the way your ultimate goal may change, and that is ok! The journey is the best part of the ride....not the destination. I hope you can learn to enjoy the journey and as LRQHS said, SQUEEZE THE JUICE!!!!
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Mighty Broke - 2015-03-06 12:15 PM Mailing List Music Player The Man In The Glass Peter Dale Wimbrow Sr. When you get what you want in your struggle for self And the world makes you king for a day Just go to the mirror and look at yourself And see what that man has to say. For it isn’t your father, or mother, or wife Whose judgment upon you must pass The fellow whose verdict counts most in your life Is the one staring back from the glass. He’s the fellow to please – never mind all the rest For he’s with you, clear to the end And you’ve passed your most difficult, dangerous test If the man in the glass is your friend. You may fool the whole world down the pathway of years And get pats on the back as you pass But your final reward will be heartache and tears If you’ve cheated the man in the glass.
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 Guys Just Wanna Have Fun
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   Location: OH | ThreeCorners - 2015-03-06 2:01 PM Mighty Broke - 2015-03-06 12:15 PM Mailing List Music Player The Man In The Glass Peter Dale Wimbrow Sr. When you get what you want in your struggle for self And the world makes you king for a day Just go to the mirror and look at yourself And see what that man has to say. For it isn’t your father, or mother, or wife Whose judgment upon you must pass The fellow whose verdict counts most in your life Is the one staring back from the glass. He’s the fellow to please – never mind all the rest For he’s with you, clear to the end And you’ve passed your most difficult, dangerous test If the man in the glass is your friend. You may fool the whole world down the pathway of years And get pats on the back as you pass But your final reward will be heartache and tears If you’ve cheated the man in the glass. Wow! That was really good.
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 Tried and True
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         Location: Where I am happiest | Iwish - 2015-03-06 12:45 PM Yes LRQHS, I can absolutely see why you love Herbie. What you said Herbie really hit home for me and I am going to print that out and read that anytime I feel my self doubt and negativety holding me back. Mighty broke, I'm also going to print out that poem you posted. I have already printed out some of the stories you guys have been kind enough to share and I'm going to be saving this thread. I can't thank you guys enough. Now on those days were my self doubt and negativety rise up I will have something to beat it down with.
Thats right!!! All that negativity and deflating attitude is "The enemy". It really is the devil, Satan, Lucifer planting those seeds of doubt and defeating YOU. Satan does not want you to succeed like God wants you to succeed. Do not give Satan free rent in your head! Every morning when you wake up, tell yourself what a glorious day this day is going to be because you CHOSE to make it a good day. Always look up! Reach for the stars in the heavens and Thank GOD every day for even the smallest of positives. |
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