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Location: Where I am happiest | outrundaizy - 2015-03-13 10:22 PM Awesome run, and he donated the whole $10,000 back to K9s4cops
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Location: Montana | Cool run! Just curious, but what does he have strapped onto his legs? |
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| mtcanchazer - 2015-03-13 11:37 PM
Cool run! Just curious, but what does he have strapped onto his legs?
I think it is called magic seat, the device that has stirred up controversy with youth being strapped in to the saddle on these high powered horses |
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Location: SE Louisiana | cheryl makofka - 2015-03-13 11:42 PM
mtcanchazer - 2015-03-13 11:37 PM
Cool run! Just curious, but what does he have strapped onto his legs?
I think it is called magic seat, the device that has stirred up controversy with youth being strapped in to the saddle on these high powered horses
Is that something that can break away? If not it sounds very foolish. I mean people wear special boots that can't fit through a stirrup so they don't get hung-up that way.... only to strap themselves in?
BTY, this was a special run. Loved it. |
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Location: Texas | Yes they break away easily enough. I thought I saw Fallon wearing them tonight too |
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| mtcanchazer - 2015-03-13 9:37 PM Cool run! Just curious, but what does he have strapped onto his legs?
It's the Martha Josey magic seat.
http://www.barrelracers.com/products/sure_grip_saddle_seat.php
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| Oh dear Lord- we are creating horses that are too fast for us to ride...... 
eta: and we once thought that soundness issues were our greatest obstacle....
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Oh dear Lord- we are creating horses that are too fast for us to ride......
eta: and we once thought that soundness issues were our greatest obstacle....
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They are wearing the magic seat because of a bullying situation. They are making a statement to help stand up for those that have been bullied for using one.
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| trickster j - 2015-03-13 10:30 PM
Oh dear Lord- we are creating horses that are too fast for us to ride......
eta: and we once thought that soundness issues were our greatest obstacle....
It is a speed event. The clock doesn't care how you do it, it just shows who was the fastest. |
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| SG. - 2015-03-13 11:40 PM Great run hate I missed it
as far as magic seat it is Velcro Unless you have tried it then don't judge too harshly It is a tool like all tools wise ones know when to use and not use and unwise don't
Have you ever ridden a Tammy Fischer treeless? That for dang sure will keep your arse strapped down- I even felt like I was "cheating" when I rode one of those with a tough running mare I had once- I wonder what else is going to evolve from this arena record? Very interesting progression in the sport of barrel racing- not saying I am knocking it- just saying I am observing it.. |
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| Just in case you did not notice, it was his sister they were bullying. Also, in case you did not listen, he broke the arena record. That is a lot better than I could do and I am sure better than most of you too. It does not make any difference if he was riding with a bareback pad, he crossed the finish line in the shortest amount of time. |
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Location: Being pushed over the edge, NM | streakysox - 2015-03-13 11:56 PM Just in case you did not notice, it was his sister they were bullying. Also, in case you did not listen, he broke the arena record. That is a lot better than I could do and I am sure better than most of you too. It does not make any difference if he was riding with a bareback pad, he crossed the finish line in the shortest amount of time.
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Location: Here | Itsme - 2015-03-14 12:33 AM So are the days of "quiet" riding over?
I thought this young man rode very quiet. especially when you look at some of the men at this event. I say hats off to him. It was a great run |
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Location: Home on the Range | SG. - 2015-03-14 1:40 AM Great run hate I missed it
as far as magic seat it is Velcro Unless you have tried it then don't judge too harshly It is a tool like all tools wise ones know when to use and not use and unwise don't
Actually, I have given thought to trying one to see how it feels. I've been running barrels for 45 years and 20 of those years were running & winning in the WPRA. The last few years, my timing seems not as quick as it used to be. Have had a couple mishaps which is working on my confidence, so if a Magic Seat will help, why Not use one? Was also considering trading in my hat for a Helmet. Nothing wrong with trying to be safe, rather than sorry! |
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Location: Louisiana | This is the first time I've seen Max wear a magic seat. I would assume he wore it for the same reason Fallon did... To show support for his sister Allie who was bullied by ADULTS on social media after she ran with one at the American semifinals. It beats me how grown men and women can look down on and shame kids. Instead of being bitter go out and qualify your butt to the American. It's not easy!! Of course the same people who post on social media sites bashing others would never say those things to that poor girl's face. Fallin posted on FB last week that she flies her "freak flag" to take the heat off of others and that she would show support to Allie by wearing the magic seat at D&D.
Do I wear one? No. Would I put one on my kid? I don't know.
I do know that it isn't my place to judge someone else for their choices!
Great run Max and way to represent Louisiana!! The Choests regularly show up to our local barrel races and kick bootay. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | downngo - 2015-03-15 6:34 AM SG. - 2015-03-14 1:40 AM Great run hate I missed it
as far as magic seat it is Velcro Unless you have tried it then don't judge too harshly It is a tool like all tools wise ones know when to use and not use and unwise don't
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| grinandbareit - 2015-03-14 12:54 AM They are wearing the magic seat because of a bullying situation. They are making a statement to help stand up for those that have been bullied for using one.
Agree, I don't think he normally rides in one. Congrats on the arena record Max, beautiful run. |
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Location: Here | downngo - 2015-03-14 9:34 AM SG. - 2015-03-14 1:40 AM Great run hate I missed it
as far as magic seat it is Velcro Unless you have tried it then don't judge too harshly It is a tool like all tools wise ones know when to use and not use and unwise don't
Yep I had one horse I had to use it on I am not ashamed either. Better than looking all sloppy and slowing my horse up |
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| trickster j - 2015-03-14 1:13 AM grinandbareit - 2015-03-13 11:54 PM They are wearing the magic seat because of a bullying situation. They are making a statement to help stand up for those that have been bullied for using one. ??? It's not to keep your ass down in the saddle when your arms are flailing for lift-off??
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| rodeomom3 - 2015-03-14 10:10 AM trickster j - 2015-03-14 1:13 AM grinandbareit - 2015-03-13 11:54 PM They are wearing the magic seat because of a bullying situation. They are making a statement to help stand up for those that have been bullied for using one. ??? It's not to keep your ass down in the saddle when your arms are flailing for lift-off??
And I am interested in it because I am a barrel racer and find tools like magic seats interesting. Seriously..... take a chill....
eta: It is going to be very interesting to see how many people start using them- an arena record doesn't lie.....
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Just an observation. I really don't care if he rides naked but I've never seen Max not ride in a Magic Seat so it wasn't a statement for his sister.
My actual point is most people don't pay any attention to what anyone is wearing, riding in or doing until it is brought to their attention. The below videos are from back to 2013 and are on 3 different horses.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mctt4QxD4M8
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Location: Montana | Thanks very much! Never knew about those. I didn't get to watch the American so that was the first time I've seen someone run in one. I didn't mean to start something, I just didn't know.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Most people never knew Martha rode with a magic seat as she would wear black pants until it was brought up on social media.
In barrel racing you have different tools to use whether it be for safety or to help you keep out of the way of your horse. If it can help you make faster runs the only stupid person is the one that doesn't take advantage of using them.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Congrats to Max on his arena record. That horse is scary fast.
I will say..I'm a huge fan of DTF Way Ta Fire and he is my favorite out of the awesome group of horses they own. |
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Location: Here | Nevertooold - 2015-03-14 12:35 PM Congrats to Max on his arena record. That horse is scary fast.
I will say..I'm a huge fan of DTF Way Ta Fire and he is my favorite out of the awesome group of horses they own.
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | trickster j - 2015-03-14 10:49 AM ForumAdmin - 2015-03-14 9:17 AM Leave the kids alone. Taking a cheap shot at a kid makes YOU look bad. Not the kid. What the heck? I guess once again I missed the earlier drama- lol. Have no idea why we are talking about cheap shots being taken at kids, I thought we were talking about Max setting the arena record???
I think it was just a preemptive strike to keep the topic from going sour. I watched the video, beautiful run!
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Location: Where I am happiest | Nevertooold - 2015-03-14 12:01 PM
Most people never knew Martha rode with a magic seat as she would wear black pants until it was brought up on social media.
In barrel racing you have different tools to use whether it be for safety or to help you keep out of the way of your horse. If it can help you make faster runs the only stupid person is the one that doesn't take advantage of using them.
Exactly!! And bottom line is, that kid ran the fastest time on that course in that arena EVER!! Lord knows the very best in the business have run there over the years and he clocked the fastest ever out of everybody who has ever ran there. What ever tools he chose to use to get that done, my hat is off to him. He obviously is getting the last laugh! Maybe those scoffing, would clock faster if they used one. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | CurlyQ - 2015-03-14 1:49 PM To me, it's a telling sign of the times that people can't be happy and celebrate other's victories. Happens a lot nowadays in all sports and even work relationships. Sad people and very small minded.
Isn't this the truth.
JMO...This all comes from that as a nation in whole we aren't happy with all the BS going on around us and it's a way to vent even though it has nothing to do with our frustrations.
If you disagree with this administration you are a racist. If you are upset with all the BS Hillary is hiding you are called a sexist. I yearn for the America that I grew up in. If you were a POS...that is what you were and no one blamed it on someone else. |
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| Nevertooold - 2015-03-14 1:19 PM CurlyQ - 2015-03-14 1:49 PM To me, it's a telling sign of the times that people can't be happy and celebrate other's victories. Happens a lot nowadays in all sports and even work relationships. Sad people and very small minded. Isn't this the truth.
JMO...This all comes from that as a nation in whole we aren't happy with all the BS going on around us and it's a way to vent even though it has nothing to do with our frustrations.
If you disagree with this administration you are a racist. If you are upset with all the BS Hillary is hiding you are called a sexist. I yearn for the America that I grew up in. If you were a POS...that is what you were and no one blamed it on someone else.
I agree too- even though I am still confused about what exactly is going on with this particular thread.......
I think the people who are more on the professional level are happy and really do appreciate other peoples victories because they know how hard the work is to achieve success. It's the people who have never made it, for some reason or another, who are quick to lash out and criticize the winners. |
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Location: Texas | I'm so confused by all the drama and controversy over the magic seat... If you actually think Max Chouest & VF A Sporty Design broke that arena record because he is wearing a magic seat, then why doesn't everyone go out and buy one? Because you're afraid you will be made a fool of when you don't magically start breaking arena records on a 5D horse?
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Kind of funny that many people really don't have a clue what a magic seat is and how it works but are the first to come on and bash them. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Wow what a awesome run that this man/kid made , to many jealous women, so gotta be nasty to make themselfs feel better about themselves because nobody will do it for them. Magic seats are the way to go for some |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | Nevertooold - 2015-03-14 2:19 PM CurlyQ - 2015-03-14 1:49 PM To me, it's a telling sign of the times that people can't be happy and celebrate other's victories. Happens a lot nowadays in all sports and even work relationships. Sad people and very small minded. Isn't this the truth.
JMO...This all comes from that as a nation in whole we aren't happy with all the BS going on around us and it's a way to vent even though it has nothing to do with our frustrations.
If you disagree with this administration you are a racist. If you are upset with all the BS Hillary is hiding you are called a sexist. I yearn for the America that I grew up in. If you were a POS...that is what you were and no one blamed it on someone else.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Nevertooold - 2015-03-14 12:35 PM Congrats to Max on his arena record. That horse is scary fast.
I will say..I'm a huge fan of DTF Way Ta Fire and he is my favorite out of the awesome group of horses they own.
That's a good way to put it. I have no problem seeing centrifugal force slinging someone off a horse that can turn like that. |
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| I have seen the Cheoust kids run a lot and the announcer usually says they have not been running barrels very long. Does anyone know if they came from a different dicipline like cutting, reining or dressage? I know they both use a "magic seat" but I assume they already know how to sit a horse pretty well already. Just curious because I don't much about the duo. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | rockette - 2015-03-14 3:18 PM Nevertooold - 2015-03-14 2:19 PM CurlyQ - 2015-03-14 1:49 PM To me, it's a telling sign of the times that people can't be happy and celebrate other's victories. Happens a lot nowadays in all sports and even work relationships. Sad people and very small minded. Isn't this the truth.
JMO...This all comes from that as a nation in whole we aren't happy with all the BS going on around us and it's a way to vent even though it has nothing to do with our frustrations.
If you disagree with this administration you are a racist. If you are upset with all the BS Hillary is hiding you are called a sexist. I yearn for the America that I grew up in. If you were a POS...that is what you were and no one blamed it on someone else.I don't believe it is a sign of the times or because of the country. Listen to Charmayne James tell you about how she was treated when she first started running. Try to be someone new going to the barrel races when you didn't grow up with it. I finally found people who would help me. I started back in the late 80 ' s and still have lots of questions, but few who won't bash me or laugh. I believe it is simply those who choose to be nasty.
I was rodeoing when she came on to the scene. I watched her go from a novice horsewoman to a great horsewoman.
Everyone starts at ground zero and I will say the things she did back when she started, she certainly doesn't do anymore.
I don't think there are very many competitive sports that go out of their way to help others nor do they welcome newbies. The 5-D system barrel races are more friendly and helpful as for most it's a hobby.
This isn't Max's first big win. He has many of those under his belts and has been a competitor to reckon with for at least a few years.
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There are few adults who could ride such a powerful, ROUGH horse. There is nothing QUIET about Sporty.
And for those asking about his magic seat, I think it just needs to be dropped.
max Chouest is a 12year old boy who not only just broke HIS PREVIOUS ddbhc arena record, but also donated $10,000 of his winnings from that one run to K9s4cops. How many adults could say they'd do that? Fallon Taylor and The winning pony team also donated their winnings back last night.
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| BarrelNPoleRunnr - 2015-03-14 3:34 PM Magic seat or not, you have to be a jockey to ride Sporty, and that's what max is. There are few adults who could ride such a powerful, ROUGH horse. There is nothing QUIET about Sporty. And for those asking about his magic seat, I think it just needs to be dropped. max Chouest is a 12year old boy who not only just broke HIS PREVIOUS ddbhc arena record, but also donated $10,000 of his winnings from that one run to K9s4cops. How many adults could say they'd do that? Fallon Taylor and The winning pony team also donated their winnings back last night. Hats off to these amazing kids who choose SAFETY!!
Oh my gosh- I did not know he was a 12 year old! So now I finally understand how this thread got off course and I feel partly responsible for that. Yikes..... so sorry Max!!!
I'll be creeping quietly away now...... apologies!!
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Location: Here | BarrelNPoleRunnr - 2015-03-14 4:34 PM Magic seat or not, you have to be a jockey to ride Sporty, and that's what max is. There are few adults who could ride such a powerful, ROUGH horse. There is nothing QUIET about Sporty. And for those asking about his magic seat, I think it just needs to be dropped. max Chouest is a 12year old boy who not only just broke HIS PREVIOUS ddbhc arena record, but also donated $10,000 of his winnings from that one run to K9s4cops. How many adults could say they'd do that? Fallon Taylor and The winning pony team also donated their winnings back last night. Hats off to these amazing kids who choose SAFETY!!
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Location: Home on the Range | I just ordered one and FYI they do Not call them Magic Seats. Maybe they used to, but they are Now called SURE GRIP SADDLE SEATS. I like that name better!
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Location: Running barrels or watching nascar | downngo - 2015-03-14 4:54 PM
I just ordered one and FYI they do Not call them Magic Seats. Maybe they used to, but they are Now called SURE GRIP SADDLE SEATS. I like that name better!Supreme "Sure Grip" Saddle Seat Alternative Views: The Sure Grip Seat is designed to add security and balance in the saddle for those hard running and quick turning horses, novice riders and young riders . Seat and leg straps come together as a set--order Extra Small, Small, Medium, Large or Extra Large. Size is determined by leg straps. To determine proper size, measure around upper thigh. Attaches to saddle and around thigh with velcro straps and fits most barrel saddles.
I saw this when I did a search. I feel I can ride but my horses are leaving me coming out of the barrels. |
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Location: NC | Magic Seat or Sure Grip or Granny Grabber. All the same thing. And I don't think he was making a statement, to be honest. Neither of them wear one on the "slower" horses they run, but I've both of them wearing magic seats on their 1D power houses. I think it's regular thing for both of them.
I really don't care for the things. I tried it. I didn't like it. Didn't help me keep my seat. It actually hindered me. The straps kept me from getting my feet forward where I needed them. I did WORSE in it so I ditched it. It's not a cure all by any means.
I still don't like seeing super little itty bitty kids in them without someone close by to snatch them off. I've seen an 8 year old come out of her saddle while wearing one so I know they aren't THAT sticky. But I don't think the super small kids would be turned loose as easily.
Great run by Max. They have a whole mess of nice horses that they get to run. Lucky kids for sure.
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| downngo - 2015-03-14 6:54 PM
I just ordered one and FYI they do Not call them Magic Seats. Maybe they used to, but they are Now called SURE GRIP SADDLE SEATS. I like that name better!Supreme "Sure Grip" Saddle Seat Alternative Views: The Sure Grip Seat is designed to add security and balance in the saddle for those hard running and quick turning horses, novice riders and young riders . Seat and leg straps come together as a set--order Extra Small, Small, Medium, Large or Extra Large. Size is determined by leg straps. To determine proper size, measure around upper thigh. Attaches to saddle and around thigh with velcro straps and fits most barrel saddles.
If you order from Josey's, they are Sure Grips. If you order from anywhere else they are still Magic Seats. I ordered mine from the Tack Stop probably 4 years ago. Didn't realize at the time that Josey's had them. I have bought new straps from Josey's. I only use it on one horse. Don't need it on the others. By the way, Martha still uses one if she runs. |
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Location: In my own little world | Kudos to Max for setting the record. My statement actually has nothing to do with him but rather the magic seat. What bothers me about the fact that these have now really been brought to the forefront from the "support for bullying" setting an arena record or whatever the reason for use, it has brought a lot of attn to them.
I saw a post on facebook page today and it is things like this parent said that really bother me more than anything. They thanked FT for her stance and then said she would be getting her young daughter a magic seat because they just got her a step up horse that has so much more power and the little girl is having trouble staying in the saddle and with the horse and she sure hoped no one would be bullying her little girl. Umm, did it ever occur to her that maybe this horse is too much of a step up and she needs a safer horse at this point and isn't ready to be turned loose on a horse of that caliber? Now I don't know the people, their situation and so I am making some assumptions here but dang I hate to see comments like this. Basically doing whatever it takes to be a winner and to me that is not a wise choice, or rather lets just say a choice I wouldn't feel comfortable making. There are already too many little one's that are overmounted and it scares the bejeezes out of me as a producer when a horse takes off, out of control, circles the arena with the kid hanging on for dear life screaming the entire time. A magic seat is not going to be the solution for this!
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| ropenrun - 2015-03-15 2:09 AM Kudos to Max for setting the record. My statement actually has nothing to do with him but rather the magic seat. What bothers me about the fact that these have now really been brought to the forefront from the "support for bullying" setting an arena record or whatever the reason for use, it has brought a lot of attn to them.
I saw a post on facebook page today and it is things like this parent said that really bother me more than anything. They thanked FT for her stance and then said she would be getting her young daughter a magic seat because they just got her a step up horse that has so much more power and the little girl is having trouble staying in the saddle and with the horse and she sure hoped no one would be bullying her little girl. Umm, did it ever occur to her that maybe this horse is too much of a step up and she needs a safer horse at this point and isn't ready to be turned loose on a horse of that caliber? Now I don't know the people, their situation and so I am making some assumptions here but dang I hate to see comments like this. Basically doing whatever it takes to be a winner and to me that is not a wise choice, or rather lets just say a choice I wouldn't feel comfortable making. There are already too many little one's that are overmounted and it scares the bejeezes out of me as a producer when a horse takes off, out of control, circles the arena with the kid hanging on for dear life screaming the entire time. A magic seat is not going to be the solution for this!
OK, now back to the Choust kids. Seems they must be able to ride good horses so this is certainly not their case in choosing to wear these.
They certainly can be misused with small children. |
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| I am a Senior rider, and it's not so much that it holds you in more that it holds you more steady, so that if you have one that leaves a little quick, and it might otherwise take you a minute to get set back, this let's you stay with the horse better. For example, him reaching back to get that 2nd barrel, he may not have been able to do that without the magic seat/gripper, grabber whatever you call it.
I don't ride with one now on the horse I'm on, but I had one I did ride with....I slowed down in the middle of a run once, and someone asked me what happened, and I said, well, if we'd kept going at that speed I was probably going to be on on the ground!
As for getting out of them, it's easier than you think, I'd dismount regularly all the time, forgetting I had them. They just give you that little extra grip you need in quick situations.
Congrats to the great horse and rider! |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | I've always loved this pairing! Always good watching and fast runs! Congrats Max! |
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 Ms. Marine
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Location: Texas | streakysox - 2015-03-13 11:56 PM
Just in case you did not notice, it was his sister they were bullying. Also, in case you did not listen, he broke the arena record. That is a lot better than I could do and I am sure better than most of you too. It does not make any difference if he was riding with a bareback pad, he crossed the finish line in the shortest amount of time.
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Location: Got Lobsta? | We sell the magic seats to many different types of riders. The young itty bitty kids, riders who have had bad wrecks, new riders, people with a disability, some with a really ratey horse,, and others JUST BECAUSE! I have had hateful emails sent to me stating "you are selling items that make people cheat". I just hit..."delete". |
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Location: Kansas | ForumAdmin - 2015-03-14 10:17 AM Leave the kids alone. Taking a cheap shot at a kid makes YOU look bad. Not the kid.
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New arena record at Diamonds and Dirt.