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I swear 70% of the racers I watch run in wayyy hard and screw up their 1st, the best of the best can do it but it seems the average horse and jockey cant make it happen.
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Location: North Dakota | I feel like if people worked on having more control and being more prepared there would be a lot less issues. Don't get me wrong, there are a LOT of fabulous riders out there barrel racing with well trained horses, but especially at the local level there are a lot of people that just GO and their horse doesn't know what's expected of them and they're just kicking and flapping and yanking and it's just very unpleasant. There are a lot of people and horses that just really need a better foundation and a bit more diversity in their riding and I think a lot of problems--including those first barrels--would not be as prevalent. |
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Location: texas | Itsme - 2015-03-14 11:25 PM
if they ran a little slower and more controlled to the 1st barrel?
I swear 70% of the racers I watch run in wayyy hard and screw up their 1st, the best of the best can do it but it seems the average horse and jockey cant make it happen.
Am I wrong?
COMPLETELY AGREE!!!! I see that alllllll the time as well. that's why I come in not running but just fast enough where I can get him around the first barrel then I start kicking and smooching him to haul butt. I say keep the first barrel easy then haul butt |
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| First of all be prepared before you go to a barrel race. Also MANY horses are running with injuries or soreness and have a lot of heart so it does not show up but they just can't get around that one right turn. Some people really think those crappy turns are good and keep right on turning the same way. If you don't know your horse, you have no idea that he is hurting and no idea that the horse can actually work better. One last thing, a lot of people come in on the wrong lead and don't have a clue. That definitely has an effect on a turn. Like I said come prepared. |
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Location: Shhh.. I'm hiding. | I'm curious to know how hard it is to fix one that has a bad first turn. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | Elisa2007 - 2015-03-15 3:26 AM I'm curious to know how hard it is to fix one that has a bad first turn.
Guess that would depend on what the issue is. My gelding, that is a free runner, we had to work on getting him to rate down and collect for the first barrel. It took a while, but with consistent work that first barrel improved immensely along with my times. |
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| "Smooth is fast" is what we have always been taught. I am not a 1D rider so the favorite horse of mine to run is the one that is so effeicent is his runs, no extra seps anywhere that locally we can high lope a 2D/3D. My girls can send him hard and he will still give you the same run, does not run past a barrel. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | How hard I come into first sets the tone for the whole run. If I come in slower, he's slower the whole run. If I let him come in harder, he runs faster. But he also runs a good first most of the time. |
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| I will weigh in on this because I come in 3/4 speed to the first. My mare is 6 this year and not "finished" yet. I feel like we might speed up to the first eventually but right now we are solid 2D against tough compempetition that way. I go in that way because she can't turn her first as good at a RUN. I feel like it's a part of seasoning but I don't think I will ever coming in whipping and spurring. |
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Location: East of the Pecos | What I see a lot of is peer pressure too. Parents, friends, spouses, stand by the fence and holler "push". Usually it's the people who have not been properly instructed on how to get the most out of their horse and they think if they don't run as hard as possible, they aren't trying. Then there are the out of control horses, but that's normally how it starts anyway. All run, no control, no thinking makes the horse think that's what he's supposed to do, and some riders ride with a blank mind and are clueless about how horses think. |
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| I have a mare that proves the opposite of this idea. The harder I push from the first stride the better and smoother she runs. Problem with her is that she is a free running rocket already and it is difficult for my brain and body to push her hard when she's already moving so much faster and harder than the other horses I ride or have ridden.
I do agree with the first barrel being the 'money' barrel. If you nail it you have a higher likelyhood of having a good run. The second barrel will be set up perfectly, and the third beyond it. |
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Location: Aubrey, Texas | What Lonely said; even more so on a cowy, turny kind of horse. Assuming that the horse is finished, you need that momentum to help them snap back without catching the barrel leaving. I can't speak for free-runners as I've never had one- |
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Location: Oklahoma | Bug Is Alive - 2015-03-15 8:57 AM
What I see a lot of is peer pressure too. Parents, friends, spouses, stand by the fence and holler "push". Usually it's the people who have not been properly instructed on how to get the most out of their horse and they think if they don't run as hard as possible, they aren't trying. Then there are the out of control horses, but that's normally how it starts anyway. All run, no control, no thinking makes the horse think that's what he's supposed to do, and some riders ride with a blank mind and are clueless about how horses think.
Oh, so true. If it's an arena where I've never been in or haven't ran in a long time it does me a lot of benefit to not push hard. I usually like to haul alone to those places because I don't want to hear about how I didn't push going down the alley. Now, with that being said my gelding is pretty honest and even if I ride in like an idiot he still does his job. And if he doesn't have a good first barrel then I've come to learn that it's most likely stemming from some sort of pain issue. My new rule of thumb is "if he's not acting level headed behind the alley and I'm not any more nervous than usual then he probably doesn't need to be running." |
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Location: texas | Bug Is Alive - 2015-03-15 8:57 AM
What I see a lot of is peer pressure too. Parents, friends, spouses, stand by the fence and holler "push". Usually it's the people who have not been properly instructed on how to get the most out of their horse and they think if they don't run as hard as possible, they aren't trying. Then there are the out of control horses, but that's normally how it starts anyway. All run, no control, no thinking makes the horse think that's what he's supposed to do, and some riders ride with a blank mind and are clueless about how horses think.
I cant stand it when im coming in and people are yelling at me to do all these things bc then it distracts me and then I lose track of what im doing. one time I was running in and somebody was along the fence screaming and they were like throwing there hands up and jumping and it actually spooked my horse and we blew the first barrel |
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Location: Texas | I will share because I don't have to think about my 2nd or 3rd and I've spent 3 years perfecting the 1st barrel.
I do have one of those horses where you lope him to the first he goes in to cruise mode and he really has to be trying to run 1D.
This arena has been really tricky for me.. I can't find the countless videos of me hitting to wall here. Running 17.7's on a standard after you hit the wall on your first is quite fristrating... Right now I know exactly how to check for soreness and how to prevent it. I know how to work his 1st barrel at home and how to warm him up to help with it aswell.
I'm the person who is usually pulling in there horse the second I leave the alley. So after having countless slower runs with a perfect 1st and no pulling, I went in to this run KICKING... I was 50/50 on it was either gonna work or I was gonna look like an idiot. A 15.9 won and we were a 16.1
This arena isn't having races anymore of course right after I figured things out, I really want to run a standard there now but I doubt I'll get the chance.
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| I feel it depends on the horse, rider and areana set up. I dont think its wrong to RUN to first it is a race after all and if your horse is gona turn, give er to first and if you get to that barrel fastest and around that puts you ahead too.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I had a horse in high school who always ran past first and had a pretty second and third. We slowed him down and cleaned up the first barrel and started winning.
I used a similar philosophy with my Appendix gelding until he got hurt, but he always screwed up the second barrel, lol. Didn't work there.
On my futurity filly, I'm not sure yet. I have a trainer though and I'm going to trust her judgment on how to run her. That's why I'm paying her. I have some experience but nothing like hers, so I'm going to enjoy the ride and learn all I can.
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Location: Montana | Personally, I think there are a lot of variables. That said, I'm not a fast runner yet (3D/4D) and I like to cruise to the first barrel. But also my experience with my mare, who is solid on the pattern, if we are outside and I send her full speed to first, we usually don't have as great of a run, but we are gradually working up to that and figuring it out. If we are indoors, it seems like the harder I send her to first, the better we do if I do my part right. So that is just with me and my mare and where we are currently.
So, in conclusion, I think it depends on the horse, the rider, and the combination of the two, and how long the horse has been running barrels.
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Location: Texas | My horse that my granddaughter rides has a problem first barrel. She is still winning at the hs and ammy level, but needs a better first to move on to the next level. He slow works 1st like a dream but when you add speed he gets his head up on the back side and comes out wide (like half way to the timer) and still manages to get over for a kickass 2nd barrel. Getting that head up and her pulling him over loses so much time. Thinking about trying a loose tie down to practice in. This is not something new and it is getting old. |
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Location: MD | hlynn - 2015-03-15 9:58 PM
Why not just train rate into a horse?
because in a lot of cases, we've bred the rate right out of them. |
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| I dont think Ive been on a website where they take things out of context so much...From my OP...
"it seems the average horse and jockey cant make it happen" |
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| The lower end average jockey lacks feel and can't judge stride length. Rate is nothing more than collecting the stride. To collect, you have to gather. Where that gather comes depends on the horse. Vegas has a lot of natural rate. You spot her maybe 1 stride before the pocket simply by saying whoa, sitting down hard and lifting. Her 1/2 sister wants to be too fast and is still fairly green. You you to rate the same way but about 3 strides earlier than Vegas. A lot of people also slice first because they have no idea where they are in the turn and where to put their horse. They lack consistency and focus. Or they over ride because they think they are helping their horse. Develop feel, focus and consistency and you no longer have average. JMHO.
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Location: Kentucky | I see a lot of runs where the horse is running like a banshee and the rider is whipping and kicking the entire way. They are placing in the 1D, but the run looks like crap. There's no rate, no collection, just balls to the walls running. The arguement is, well, it's a barrel race, isn't it? I can only imagine how much faster that run would be if it was collected and done correctly. I fully believe the "smooth is fast" technique.
I have a 1D mare that looks like she is running in the 3D. People are confused when I shut the clock off. I love her style and thankfully she is pretty automatic! |
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| WrapSnap - 2015-03-15 10:09 PM
hlynn - 2015-03-15 9:58 PM
Why not just train rate into a horse?
because in a lot of cases, we've bred the rate right out of them.
I don't agree with that at all! Rate is the ability to shorten the stride and prepare for a turn. Just because we have high powered running lines doesn't mean that they don't have the ability to or the ability to learn how to rate.......
I think that's one of my biggest peeves when I hear people say that the horse is just really strong... I don't care how strong he/she is... when I ask for one to shut down and get collected I expect it to happen, not run clear to the fence because it's bred that way and really strong. No, it's happening because people have missed or skipped some foundation work!
Now, when your finishing a horse out, they can't be constantly held back. They have to be given the chance to run in there how we expect them to when they are finished. Some miss the mark a few times and others excel. |
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Location: Kansas | SKM - 2015-03-16 7:08 AM The lower end average jockey lacks feel and can't judge stride length. Rate is nothing more than collecting the stride. To collect, you have to gather. Where that gather comes depends on the horse. Vegas has a lot of natural rate. You spot her maybe 1 stride before the pocket simply by saying whoa, sitting down hard and lifting. Her 1/2 sister wants to be too fast and is still fairly green. You you to rate the same way but about 3 strides earlier than Vegas. A lot of people also slice first because they have no idea where they are in the turn and where to put their horse. They lack consistency and focus. Or they over ride because they think they are helping their horse. Develop feel, focus and consistency and you no longer have average. JMHO.
Very very true.
I'm running 4 different horses this year and nailing the first on each of them is a challenge because they all need something a little different from me, and I've had to learn to do the right things on each horse consistently so they can all succeed. It seems to me that if we spent a little time walking the pattern and thinking about where each horse's rate point is, we would have more luck finding that consistency and nailing the first barrel on a regular basis. |
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Location: MD | FlyingJT - 2015-03-16 1:56 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-03-15 10:09 PM
hlynn - 2015-03-15 9:58 PM
Why not just train rate into a horse?
because in a lot of cases, we've bred the rate right out of them.
I don't agree with that at all! Rate is the ability to shorten the stride and prepare for a turn. Just because we have high powered running lines doesn't mean that they don't have the ability to or the ability to learn how to rate.......
I think that's one of my biggest peeves when I hear people say that the horse is just really strong... I don't care how strong he/she is... when I ask for one to shut down and get collected I expect it to happen, not run clear to the fence because it's bred that way and really strong. No, it's happening because people have missed or skipped some foundation work!
Now, when your finishing a horse out, they can't be constantly held back. They have to be given the chance to run in there how we expect them to when they are finished. Some miss the mark a few times and others excel.
Disagree with it if you will, but it is a fact. Yes, we can train rate into any horse. I do it on a daily basis. The thing is however, that in order to win a barrel race in this day and age, we have to have a horse who has the desire to go to a barrel and turn naturally. There have certainly been straight race lines that have proven to have a good amount of natural rate, but there are many more that don't. In today's world of specialized breeding, there are horses that are bred to run down the track in a straight line and there are horses that are bred to run barrels. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Those who have done there home work seem to do it smoothly.True many riders don't have that feel in a horses' stride but that is consistent with lack of knowledge.The truth is a horse and rider that can nail that first barrel with speed will already be 3 seconds ahead of the other competitors just off the clock alone.So if the home work is done and can nail that first barrel your going to shut off the clock. |
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| cow pie - 2015-03-17 10:11 AM Those who have done there home work seem to do it smoothly.True many riders don't have that feel in a horses' stride but that is consistent with lack of knowledge.The truth is a horse and rider that can nail that first barrel with speed will already be 3 seconds ahead of the other competitors just off the clock alone.So if the home work is done and can nail that first barrel your going to shut off the clock.
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| Itsme - 2015-03-17 10:41 AM cow pie - 2015-03-17 10:11 AM Those who have done there home work seem to do it smoothly.True many riders don't have that feel in a horses' stride but that is consistent with lack of knowledge.The truth is a horse and rider that can nail that first barrel with speed will already be 3 seconds ahead of the other competitors just off the clock alone.So if the home work is done and can nail that first barrel your going to shut off the clock. Nope
Maybe true for some horses but Lauren, cusual dust, is an example of one that goes 3/4's to the first for more control then turns her lose and still can win a big race by a few tenths. |
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| WrapSnap - 2015-03-16 8:45 PM
FlyingJT - 2015-03-16 1:56 PM
WrapSnap - 2015-03-15 10:09 PM
hlynn - 2015-03-15 9:58 PM
Why not just train rate into a horse?
because in a lot of cases, we've bred the rate right out of them.
I don't agree with that at all! Rate is the ability to shorten the stride and prepare for a turn. Just because we have high powered running lines doesn't mean that they don't have the ability to or the ability to learn how to rate.......
I think that's one of my biggest peeves when I hear people say that the horse is just really strong... I don't care how strong he/she is... when I ask for one to shut down and get collected I expect it to happen, not run clear to the fence because it's bred that way and really strong. No, it's happening because people have missed or skipped some foundation work!
Now, when your finishing a horse out, they can't be constantly held back. They have to be given the chance to run in there how we expect them to when they are finished. Some miss the mark a few times and others excel.
Disagree with it if you will, but it is a fact. Yes, we can train rate into any horse. I do it on a daily basis. The thing is however, that in order to win a barrel race in this day and age, we have to have a horse who has the desire to go to a barrel and turn naturally. There have certainly been straight race lines that have proven to have a good amount of natural rate, but there are many more that don't. In today's world of specialized breeding, there are horses that are bred to run down the track in a straight line and there are horses that are bred to run barrels.
Agree with you WrapSnap. It's a lot easier to get a Fame, Firewater or Frenchman to rate a turn than a Cartel or Chicks Beduino. The first set I listed WANT to do it. It's bred in them, it's not hard, and you barely have to train them to do it. The second set certainly can, but just don't really want to all the time. That is just speaking from my experiences though... |
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Location: That part of Texas | Itsme - 2015-03-14 11:25 PM if they ran a little slower and more controlled to the 1st barrel? I swear 70% of the racers I watch run in wayyy hard and screw up their 1st, the best of the best can do it but it seems the average horse and jockey cant make it happen. Am I wrong?
I don't know about 70% but I do know that many girls seem to have adopted the Miley Cyrus "I came in like a wrecking ball" approach and it probably doesn't help in the long run. I can post because I think on some of my horses I've been guilty in the past.
The one thing that I have always found interesting with the Brazilian barrel racers is how most are able to complete some fast patterns with a fairly slow (compared to most of our runs) start. I know I could probably learn from watching them more on how they are able to have an almost non-speed start and finish out quickly. Granted, many of the patterns they run on are smaller than most of us see but it's interesting to compare.
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Location: Kansas | Red Raider - 2015-03-17 2:21 PM Itsme - 2015-03-14 11:25 PM if they ran a little slower and more controlled to the 1st barrel? I swear 70% of the racers I watch run in wayyy hard and screw up their 1st, the best of the best can do it but it seems the average horse and jockey cant make it happen. Am I wrong? I don't know about 70% but I do know that many girls seem to have adopted the Miley Cyrus "I came in like a wrecking ball" approach and it probably doesn't help in the long run. I can post because I think on some of my horses I've been guilty in the past.
The one thing that I have always found interesting with the Brazilian barrel racers is how most are able to complete some fast patterns with a fairly slow (compared to most of our runs) start. I know I could probably learn from watching them more on how they are able to have an almost non-speed start and finish out quickly. Granted, many of the patterns they run on are smaller than most of us see but it's interesting to compare.
That slower approach or shorter run to the first works for some horses but not for all. My gray horse needs a long run to the first to build up some speed, and the harder I send him into the first, the better he clocks. My sorrel rodeo horse, however, cannot handle full speed to first yet so I'm keeping him reeled in a little bit until he learns that there is no more stifle pain when he goes to come around it. He's fast enough to still win just barely loping to first, but I'm interested to see how things go as he gets more post-maintenance runs under his belt. |
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Location: In a happy place | rodeomom3 - 2015-03-17 11:40 AM Itsme - 2015-03-17 10:41 AM cow pie - 2015-03-17 10:11 AM Those who have done there home work seem to do it smoothly.True many riders don't have that feel in a horses' stride but that is consistent with lack of knowledge.The truth is a horse and rider that can nail that first barrel with speed will already be 3 seconds ahead of the other competitors just off the clock alone.So if the home work is done and can nail that first barrel your going to shut off the clock. Nope
Yes to what rodeomom said. And I can't tell you which horse and what years but I seem to remember Jackie (Dube) at that time that had a horse she nearly loped to the first barrel then let 'em roll and she won lots of barrel races. |
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Location: In My Own Dream Land | I'm not one of those that has won at big levels, but I have went to a few ammy rodeo finals, won jackpots etc. The horse I won on, was one that you loped to the first, and rode for all you're worth the rest of the pattern. He would clock. He was very long strided, but would run to the fence is you sent him to the first. I now have one who I think I will be able to send, in time, but have only made 10 runs together and I still have the "fence runner" in the back of my mind. |
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | sorrel horse ranch - 2015-03-17 3:07 PM
rodeomom3 - 2015-03-17 11:40 AM Itsme - 2015-03-17 10:41 AM cow pie - 2015-03-17 10:11 AM Those who have done there home work seem to do it smoothly.True many riders don't have that feel in a horses' stride but that is consistent with lack of knowledge.The truth is a horse and rider that can nail that first barrel with speed will already be 3 seconds ahead of the other competitors just off the clock alone.So if the home work is done and can nail that first barrel your going to shut off the clock. Nope
You have missed my point. One going in fast and nailing it. You may not win cause you have second and third but time a horse coming in and nailing it, by the time 3 seconds have hit the clock that horse and rider are half way across heading for second barrel... the first barrel is the money barrel. |
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| cow pie - 2015-03-17 9:32 PM sorrel horse ranch - 2015-03-17 3:07 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-17 11:40 AM Itsme - 2015-03-17 10:41 AM cow pie - 2015-03-17 10:11 AM Those who have done there home work seem to do it smoothly.True many riders don't have that feel in a horses' stride but that is consistent with lack of knowledge.The truth is a horse and rider that can nail that first barrel with speed will already be 3 seconds ahead of the other competitors just off the clock alone.So if the home work is done and can nail that first barrel your going to shut off the clock. Nope You have missed my point. One going in fast and nailing it. You may not win cause you have second and third but time a horse coming in and nailing it, by the time 3 seconds have hit the clock that horse and rider are half way across heading for second barrel... the first barrel is the money barrel.
I know the first is called the money barrel but I dont think it applies to all horses. I see too many runs where the horses still out runs every one and did not run all out to the first. Time can be made up after you turn the first barrel too, the clock doesn't care if it comes before or after the first. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2015-03-17 8:51 PM
cow pie - 2015-03-17 9:32 PM sorrel horse ranch - 2015-03-17 3:07 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-17 11:40 AM Itsme - 2015-03-17 10:41 AM cow pie - 2015-03-17 10:11 AM Those who have done there home work seem to do it smoothly.True many riders don't have that feel in a horses' stride but that is consistent with lack of knowledge.The truth is a horse and rider that can nail that first barrel with speed will already be 3 seconds ahead of the other competitors just off the clock alone.So if the home work is done and can nail that first barrel your going to shut off the clock. Nope You have missed my point. One going in fast and nailing it. You may not win cause you have second and third but time a horse coming in and nailing it, by the time 3 seconds have hit the clock that horse and rider are half way across heading for second barrel... the first barrel is the money barrel.
This kinda brought up a different thought for me. I acatualy think more races are lost on 3rd than 1st. I see more horses blow by or come out of third really wide than first. I supose mistakes on first stand out because you really need to be a hand to get second nailed after it. However with third you just hussle home, so it dosent look as bad but its still eating time just like a bad first. |
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Location: Louisiana | della - 2015-03-17 10:12 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-17 8:51 PM cow pie - 2015-03-17 9:32 PM sorrel horse ranch - 2015-03-17 3:07 PM rodeomom3 - 2015-03-17 11:40 AM Itsme - 2015-03-17 10:41 AM cow pie - 2015-03-17 10:11 AM Those who have done there home work seem to do it smoothly.True many riders don't have that feel in a horses' stride but that is consistent with lack of knowledge.The truth is a horse and rider that can nail that first barrel with speed will already be 3 seconds ahead of the other competitors just off the clock alone.So if the home work is done and can nail that first barrel your going to shut off the clock. Nope You have missed my point. One going in fast and nailing it. You may not win cause you have second and third but time a horse coming in and nailing it, by the time 3 seconds have hit the clock that horse and rider are half way across heading for second barrel... the first barrel is the money barrel. This kinda brought up a different thought for me. I acatualy think more races are lost on 3rd than 1st. I see more horses blow by or come out of third really wide than first. I supose mistakes on first stand out because you really need to be a hand to get second nailed after it. However with third you just hussle home, so it dosent look as bad but its still eating time just like a bad first.
I know that's where I typically lose time, although I'm getting it figured out. It's taken four years for me to figure out the secret to a good third barrel on T-Bo is...nothing! Just hustle and sit there LOL. No checking, no pulling, nothing-he will turn by himself. I found out at a rodeo when I had lost both stirrups, almost got dumped at the second, and just held on for dear life and he sat down, inhaled the third barrel, and ran out in a straight line. Face palm moment lol.
As for the first barrel, he comes in like a rabid freight train haha. He will find a barrel like no other I have ridden...just send him in and trust him.
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How many runs would be faster....