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Location: North Dakota | I'm almost positive my horse has ulcers. I'm going to get him scoped to be sure, but he is skinny and won't gain weight, back sore, and doesn't seem as "happy-go-lucky" as he did. Bloodwork was normal, teeth are utd, vet approved his feeding program, hasn't been ridden so no saddle issues, and had the Chiro out. He's also had a rough 6 months full of things that cause ulcers.
Now to the point. If he does indeed have ulcers I'll do what my vet tells me to treat them. My question is what do you do as far as long term maintenance to help keep an ulcer prone horse from getting them again? Smartgut pellets have good reviews....but I'm just a babe in the woods, I know nothing. |
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Location: Jersey Girl | There have been a lot of recent threads about this. Have you done a search? |
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Location: IL | I'm dealing with this now. I would love to see everyone's comments |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | THE has a product called GastroPLUS that is used my most of the top TB trainers. It is something that can be used for treatment and since it is all natural, it is safe to keep them on for a preventitive. This is all I have ever used. My colts all get it when they come back from the trainers and I use it as an added blend in their Muscle Mass (daily supplement from the same company) for prevetitive measure in horses that aren't high risk. Those ones just stay on the GastroPLUS full strength. It does have a money back guarantee-return empty packaging within 45 days of invoice date. |
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| wyoming barrel racer - 2015-03-17 2:28 PM
THE has a product called GastroPLUS that is used my most of the top TB trainers. It is something that can be used for treatment and since it is all natural, it is safe to keep them on for a preventitive. This is all I have ever used. My colts all get it when they come back from the trainers and I use it as an added blend in their Muscle Mass (daily supplement from the same company) for prevetitive measure in horses that aren't high risk. Those ones just stay on the GastroPLUS full strength. It does have a money back guarantee-return empty packaging within 45 days of invoice date.
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | My gelding has them and I manage his flare ups through 707 Digestive Essentials for every day maintenance.
He is alergic to alfalfa so I keep free choice coastal out for him, feed bermuda hay flakes, and also soak Ametza cubes or pellets for him to eat with his supplements.
THE has a paste called In The Zone (ITZ) that is great for him when we are about to haul. I also give him MVP's ulcer guard knock off before we haul sometimes too. If I see a change in his appetite or loss of interest I give him a dose of probiotics and a stomach soother, such as the "ITZ" paste from THE.
He has gained weight consistantly since taking out his pelleted feed and the beet pulp that had traces of molases that I was unaware of. |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | PM me about Omeprazole Research. Best to cure the ulcers then follow up with a maintenance program for a few months. Then give your horse a rest but continue feeding well. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Itsme - 2015-03-17 1:44 PM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-03-17 2:28 PM THE has a product called GastroPLUS that is used my most of the top TB trainers. It is something that can be used for treatment and since it is all natural, it is safe to keep them on for a preventitive. This is all I have ever used. My colts all get it when they come back from the trainers and I use it as an added blend in their Muscle Mass (daily supplement from the same company) for prevetitive measure in horses that aren't high risk. Those ones just stay on the GastroPLUS full strength. It does have a money back guarantee-return empty packaging within 45 days of invoice date. $170 PER MONTH?
$115 if bought through me for a 32 dose bag and price per feeding is less and less the bigger bag you buy. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | strawfly special - 2015-03-17 5:08 PM Where do you buy the muscle mass with ulcer preventive ?
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | I have a mare with confirmed ulcers. I spent the $ on scoping & gastro guard paste as the vet suggested. When I was finished with that treatment, I wanted something that would continue to keep her healthy. I went with THE Performance Blend with ulcer are and calming supplement which I bought through Wyomingbarrelracer. I cannot begin to describe my satisfaction with this product. So much so, I put my super senior horses on muscle mass senior formula with joint and arthritis. I'm thrilled with my oldies get up and go. All of my horses are healthier and happier on THE products. You can't go wrong using this product. |
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| There is now a fecal test that can be done to check for ulcers instead of scoping. A lot cheaper ($42.00 for my neck of the woods). Fecal needs to be done within 4 hours. |
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Location: North Dakota | wyoming barrel racer - 2015-03-17 7:25 PM strawfly special - 2015-03-17 5:08 PM Where do you buy the muscle mass with ulcer preventive ?
That was good right there.  So THE seems to be the popular one here. It's powder right? That's my only worry because my boy does not eat powder well unless it's hidden in soaked stuff, which I have to do rather than my barn feeding him. |
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Location: Foot of the Smoky Mtns, East Tennessee | I use the THE Muscle Mass with ulcer stuff in it. My horse loves the taste! It smells like stuff I would bake with. Go to www.totalhealthenhance.com to read up and order it. You will also need to go to a lowstarch feed or whatever supplement you decide to use is useless. Nutrena Safe Choice seems to be the most common I believe. I used it until my CoOp started carrying Pinnacle Low Starch. I've been happy with both feeds so far. Lots of turn out is better for them. :) |
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | I plan on starting THE as soon as I use up the Ulser Shield that I have. The THE company is awesome to deal with and I've only dealt with them once. I sent an inquiry about info on the product and had an email that same day and then next they called me to talk more about my mare and helped me to get the right blends. Although for the best price on THE stuff go through WyomingBarrelRacer. Which is where I plan on ordering from here. And the pricing when you break it down on a per day basis compared to others, it is very affordable. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-18 12:23 AM wyoming barrel racer - 2015-03-17 7:25 PM strawfly special - 2015-03-17 5:08 PM Where do you buy the muscle mass with ulcer preventive ? So THE seems to be the popular one here. It's powder right? That's my only worry because my boy does not eat powder well unless it's hidden in soaked stuff, which I have to do rather than my barn feeding him.
it is a powder, but most eat it pretty well. Send me a pm and when I get back from the vet I'll talk to you some more :) |
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Location: IL | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-17 9:15 PM Fecal to check for stomach or hind gut ulcers?
The fecal tests for stomach and hindgut. I had 2 horses tested with that test. One came back positive for both and the other was just hindgut. I have both horses on Forco now and I just started THE with ulcer and joint top dress. My gelding continued to have ulcer flare ups last year while traveling, so I'm really hoping THE works better for him. |
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Location: North Dakota | NeedMoreSpeed - 2015-03-18 8:16 AM
I use the THE Muscle Mass with ulcer stuff in it. My horse loves the taste! It smells like stuff I would bake with. Go to www.totalhealthenhance.com to read up and order it. You will also need to go to a lowstarch feed or whatever supplement you decide to use is useless. Nutrena Safe Choice seems to be the most common I believe. I used it until my CoOp started carrying Pinnacle Low Starch. I've been happy with both feeds so far. Lots of turn out is better for them. :)
He's on Renew Gold w/ alfalfa pellets so we're good there! :) |
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| merdth6 - 2015-03-18 7:05 AM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-17 9:15 PM Fecal to check for stomach or hind gut ulcers?
The fecal tests for stomach and hindgut. I had 2 horses tested with that test. One came back positive for both and the other was just hindgut. I have both horses on Forco now and I just started THE with ulcer and joint top dress. My gelding continued to have ulcer flare ups last year while traveling, so I'm really hoping THE works better for him.
Thanks! DOes this test require a vet or can you send in samples yourself? I texted my vet about it. |
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| Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets
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Location: Nowhere Land | I find that Formula 1 Noni Blue label paired with quality Alfalfa works great. I treated my mare for 3 months for ulcers, aggressively. She had hind ulcers.. which most of you probably know are very pesky to treat. I find that the combo of Noni and alf cubes are a great team for the ulcer riddled or ulcer prone horses. |
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Location: IL | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 1:57 PM Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets
Yes, thru the vet and yes it's made by succeed! I got results same day. The vet actually runs the test. |
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| merdth6 - 2015-03-18 1:23 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 1:57 PM Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets
Yes, thru the vet and yes it's made by succeed! I got results same day. The vet actually runs the test.
My vet just got back to me. She said she won't use the fecal test because it is very unreliable.
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Location: Kentucky | Same topic, off question.... generic Gastrogard/Ulcergard... I know it's 3000 mg of Omeprazole, but where can you buy that? |
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| Murphy - 2015-03-19 6:26 AM
Same topic, off question.... generic Gastrogard/Ulcergard... I know it's 3000 mg of Omeprazole, but where can you buy that?
Ulcer Cure OTC from here is good and I have also used the Horse prerace omeprazole at 6.95 for a full 2.3G tube ( Just like ulcerguard). Ulcerguard around here is 30-40.00 PER TUBE ( 4 doses). Horse pre race is 6.95 for the same amount. |
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Location: Georgia | $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield
Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.
A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.
If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.
INGREDIENTS:
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Polydimethylsiloxane
New Size!
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Location: Kentucky | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 9:37 AM Murphy - 2015-03-19 6:26 AM Same topic, off question.... generic Gastrogard/Ulcergard... I know it's 3000 mg of Omeprazole, but where can you buy that? Ulcer Cure OTC from here is good and I have also used the Horse prerace omeprazole at 6.95 for a full 2.3G tube ( Just like ulcerguard ). Ulcerguard around here is 30-40.00 PER TUBE ( 4 doses ). Horse pre race is 6.95 for the same amount.
My vet wants me to start my mare on Gastrogard and it's $37 a tube for him... he wants me to get 7 tubes. There's no way I can afford that. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | gagrl - 2015-03-19 9:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield
Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.
A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.
If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.
INGREDIENTS:
Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane
New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00
OMG I have been looking for this!! I used it on my horse at the World's when he completely went off feed. It was the first time he didn't give me a hard time putting anything in his mouth. I used up the bottle, saw results in 1 day! I couldn't remember the name and have been searching. Thank you!! I'm sending you a PM
Also after my horse was scoped with ulcers - did 28 days of gastro guard and now on smart gut and Renew Gold. If you want to save money, you can also do the Smart Digest. Remember if you have them ship it to you in the packs your horse qualifies for $7500 colic surgery coverage.
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| Murphy - 2015-03-19 6:45 AM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 9:37 AM Murphy - 2015-03-19 6:26 AM Same topic, off question.... generic Gastrogard/Ulcergard... I know it's 3000 mg of Omeprazole, but where can you buy that? Ulcer Cure OTC from here is good and I have also used the Horse prerace omeprazole at 6.95 for a full 2.3G tube ( Just like ulcerguard ). Ulcerguard around here is 30-40.00 PER TUBE ( 4 doses ). Horse pre race is 6.95 for the same amount.
I would order from horse pre race then. You could get 7 tubes for about 50.00. Thats a huge savings. |
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| gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM
$60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.INGREDIENTS:Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00
I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day? |
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Anyone ordered this brand of compounded omeprazole? |
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Location: Georgia | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM
gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM
$60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.INGREDIENTS:Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00
I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day?
I use it everyday. Double dose race days or hauling. It creates a mucosa lining in the stomach to buffer acids |
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 11:12 AM
Great prices! Trying to see where the company is
Yes it is! They are based out of Michigan. The lady's Facebook page gives info about the lab it is compounded in and I reckon some vet's order from the lab as well. I'm probably gonna order some dose tubes for the summer its a few dollars cheaper than ordering the compounded brand from one of my vets. |
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Location: North Dakota | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 8:56 PM merdth6 - 2015-03-18 1:23 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 1:57 PM Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets Yes, thru the vet and yes it's made by succeed! I got results same day. The vet actually runs the test. My vet just got back to me. She said she won't use the fecal test because it is very unreliable.
My vet (my cousin) is a very big skeptic about the fecal and after talking and convincing, I finally said, really just humor me and run the **** test-wouldn't you know it.....positive. I do not know what test he ran for sure but the fecal tells you if there is blood in the stool. Also, I'm being lazy how many milligrams of omeprazole does the ulcergard have in it? Thought horseprerace was a little bit higher for the comparable milligrams. |
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| astreakinchic - 2015-03-19 8:16 AM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 11:12 AM
Great prices! Trying to see where the company is
Yes it is! They are based out of Michigan. The lady's Facebook page gives info about the lab it is compounded in and I reckon some vet's order from the lab as well. I'm probably gonna order some dose tubes for the summer its a few dollars cheaper than ordering the compounded brand from one of my vets.
Its cheaper than the horse pre race stuff as well. Looks like a great option! I will probably order a jar of the powder as well! |
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| LMS - 2015-03-19 8:17 AM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 8:56 PM merdth6 - 2015-03-18 1:23 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 1:57 PM Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets Yes, thru the vet and yes it's made by succeed! I got results same day. The vet actually runs the test. My vet just got back to me. She said she won't use the fecal test because it is very unreliable.
Notice who makes the fecal test. Succeed. Look who produces one of the most expensive Ulcer prevent supplements on the market. Succeed. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | I get worried about the generic version. I read that they have done tests on the generics that show as low as 5% of omeprazole as it is not FDA regulated. Love to save the money but also want all the ingredients. Who to trust? |
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Location: IL | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:27 AM LMS - 2015-03-19 8:17 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 8:56 PM merdth6 - 2015-03-18 1:23 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-18 1:57 PM Just looked it up, its the "Succeed" kit that has to be purchased from vets Yes, thru the vet and yes it's made by succeed! I got results same day. The vet actually runs the test. My vet just got back to me. She said she won't use the fecal test because it is very unreliable. Notice who makes the fecal test. Succeed. Look who produces one of the most expensive Ulcer prevent supplements on the market. Succeed.
Well all I have to say is I did the fecal test on 2 horses and it was much cheaper than trying to scope. My gelding tested positive for fore and hindgut, my mare only tested positive for hind. My gelding was treated with 30 days of omeprazole and 30 days with equishure from KER. I couldn't believe the difference in him. He looked great and ran the fastest ever. I went from averaging in the 3D to solid 2D and hitting 1D. My mare is just starting but I put her on Equishure from KER for 30 days and her belly tucked up real nice and she wasn't irritated and much calmer to ride. So my experience with the test was a good one and I would use it again if I thought there was a problem. It seemed to help me resolve my issues. Since being diagnosed I have switched all of our horses to Forco and I'm really liking that product also. Equishure is a great product but it is expensive. |
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Location: Its Freaking Freezing Up Here... | I have a mare who I have known had ulcers since last spring. I have spent sooo much money on the generic omeprazole from the vet and although it helped, it definitely never cured. I finally bit the bullet and bought 14 tubes of Gastroguard. Symptoms have all gone away. So it's worth the money. |
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Location: Its Freaking Freezing Up Here... | I have a mare who I have known had ulcers since last spring. I have spent sooo much money on the generic omeprazole from the vet and although it helped, it definitely never cured. I finally bit the bullet and bought 14 tubes of Gastroguard. Symptoms have all gone away. So it's worth the money. |
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Location: Winging It in KY | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield
Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.
A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.
If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.
INGREDIENTS:
Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane
New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day?
Anybody use this? I would like to know if you like it? |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | Mainer-racer - 2015-03-19 10:44 AM I get worried about the generic version. I read that they have done tests on the generics that show as low as 5% of omeprazole as it is not FDA regulated. Love to save the money but also want all the ingredients. Who to trust?
You can trust me! See my post today for Omeprazole Research. |
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Location: North Dakota | Mainer-racer - 2015-03-19 10:44 AM I get worried about the generic version. I read that they have done tests on the generics that show as low as 5% of omeprazole as it is not FDA regulated. Love to save the money but also want all the ingredients. Who to trust?
This is why I won't use it:
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| WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2015-03-20 9:41 AM
Mainer-racer - 2015-03-19 10:44 AM I get worried about the generic version. I read that they have done tests on the generics that show as low as 5% of omeprazole as it is not FDA regulated. Love to save the money but also want all the ingredients. Who to trust?
They are still selling it cause I have bought it in the last couple weeks and it really works well for my horses. LOL I wonder how they keep selling it with FDA warning? Why didnt they get a warning letter for Pentosan etc? |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | Mainer-racer - 2015-03-19 8:44 AM I get worried about the generic version. I read that they have done tests on the generics that show as low as 5% of omeprazole as it is not FDA regulated. Love to save the money but also want all the ingredients. Who to trust?
Me too! There are sooo many different drugs out there for ulcers. Not sure who is telling the truth and who isn't going to cost me an arm and a leg. I just stick to GastroPLUS and it has worked well for me. |
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Location: North Dakota | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-20 11:50 AM WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2015-03-20 9:41 AM Mainer-racer - 2015-03-19 10:44 AM I get worried about the generic version. I read that they have done tests on the generics that show as low as 5% of omeprazole as it is not FDA regulated. Love to save the money but also want all the ingredients. Who to trust? They are still selling it cause I have bought it in the last couple weeks and it really works well for my horses. LOL I wonder how they keep selling it with FDA warning? Why didnt they get a warning letter for Pentosan etc?
Ive dealt with FDA for the last 12 years. you are given 3 warning letters before being withdrawn from the market. Granted there are definite items on their inspections that IMMEDIATELY remove you from the market. If you read the entire letter, you will see that there is a process to take to remain in compliance:
You should notify this office, in writing, within fifteen (15) working days of the receipt of this letter ofthe steps you have taken to bring your firm into compliance with the law. Your response should include any documentation necessary to show that correction has been achieved. If corrective action cannot be completed within fifteen (15) working days, state the reason for the delay and the date by which the corrections will be completed. Include copies of any available documentation demonstrating that corrections have been made.
If you look deep enough even Merial has had FDA warning letters for some of their products:
http://www.fda.gov/ICECI/EnforcementActions/WarningLetters/2005/ucm076029.htm
Funny these letters showed up today, I was just reviewing them, I've always been a little hesitant about horseprerace simply because their prices were not good enough for me to go to them and now that they are cheaper, I'm not sure if I will go with them or not. The one thing that does bother me is the fact that the tube of omeprazole that the fda tested was only 68% of label claim.
Science tells me Omeprazole is Omeprazole, but you have to trust the ones that are making it to actually put enough of the drug into the tube for it to work. |
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Location: North Dakota | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-20 11:50 AM
WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2015-03-20 9:41 AM
Mainer-racer - 2015-03-19 10:44 AM I get worried about the generic version. I read that they have done tests on the generics that show as low as 5% of omeprazole as it is not FDA regulated. Love to save the money but also want all the ingredients. Who to trust?
They are still selling it cause I have bought it in the last couple weeks and it really works well for my horses. LOL I wonder how they keep selling it with FDA warning? Why didnt they get a warning letter for Pentosan etc?
TBH I'm not sure how it all works when there is an FDA warning and why they can continue to sell it? Maybe DJG can offer some insight, as I believe he went through something similar?
I was just cruising around yesterday after looking at this thread and wondering what the difference btwn this and Ulcergard actually is because when you compare them side by side they look like the same thing according to the websites. Same amount of grams, just a tremendous price difference. I'll be honest it was lookingvery appealing to me and then I found this article and the part that really concerned me was this:
In addition, testing by FDA of samples of the drug Omeprazole Oral Paste revealed that the amount of active ingredient (omeprazole) in the drug did not correspond with the amount represented on the labeling. Specifically, the drug was found to be sub-potent at 68.1% of the label claim for potency.
I know its a random sample, but still.
I've discussed it with my vet and we both feel it would be best to go the Ulcergard route for my horse and my situation at this time:)
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gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM
$60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.INGREDIENTS:Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00
I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day? I use it everyday. Double dose race days or hauling. It creates a mucosa lining in the stomach to buffer acids
How does this create mucosal lining, as the product doesn't say it does, if you are a dealer that can be interpreted at false advertising.
All I see is a stomach soother.
I would like to see the research on the long term use, physically and physiologically, including serum calcium levels (can be detrimental to cardiac output if the ca levels are above the normal range) |
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| WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2015-03-20 1:27 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-20 11:50 AM
WYOTurn-n-Burn - 2015-03-20 9:41 AM
Mainer-racer - 2015-03-19 10:44 AM I get worried about the generic version. I read that they have done tests on the generics that show as low as 5% of omeprazole as it is not FDA regulated. Love to save the money but also want all the ingredients. Who to trust?
They are still selling it cause I have bought it in the last couple weeks and it really works well for my horses. LOL I wonder how they keep selling it with FDA warning? Why didnt they get a warning letter for Pentosan etc?
TBH I'm not sure how it all works when there is an FDA warning and why they can continue to sell it? Maybe DJG can offer some insight, as I believe he went through something similar?
I was just cruising around yesterday after looking at this thread and wondering what the difference btwn this and Ulcergard actually is because when you compare them side by side they look like the same thing according to the websites. Same amount of grams, just a tremendous price difference. I'll be honest it was lookingvery appealing to me and then I found this article and the part that really concerned me was this:
In addition, testing by FDA of samples of the drug Omeprazole Oral Paste revealed that the amount of active ingredient (omeprazole ) in the drug did not correspond with the amount represented on the labeling. Specifically, the drug was found to be sub-potent at 68.1% of the label claim for potency.
I know its a random sample, but still.
I've discussed it with my vet and we both feel it would be best to go the Ulcergard route for my horse and my situation at this time: )
The difference is one paid for all the FDA regulated crap and one didn't. DJG can tell you it cost a lot of $$$$$ for a product to become FDA regulated. The big struggle with horse ulcer meds is money hungry Merial put a patent on the delivery agent that buffers the omeprazole so it can make it back around to the stomach cells via the bloodstream. Basically say thanks to Merial and the FDA for charging us outrageous amounts of $$$ for meds that cost pennies to make.
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| Got it, well the letter was written by the FDA 4-5 months ago. SO they haven't issued the second letter yet apparently? It doesnt surprise me it was only 68% of label. I was using it as pre hauling preventative. That amount probably just worked well for my horses. It doesn't hurt them and Im not about to pay 35.00 for tube of ulcerguard. lol |
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Location: Georgia | cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM gagrl - 2015-03-19 10:16 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.INGREDIENTS:Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day? I use it everyday. Double dose race days or hauling. It creates a barrier in the stomach to buffer acids How does this create mucosal lining, as the product doesn't say it does, if you are a dealer that can be interpreted at false advertising. All I see is a stomach soother. I would like to see the research on the long term use, physically and physiologically, including serum calcium levels (can be detrimental to cardiac output if the ca levels are above the normal range )
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Location: North Dakota | so, after thinking about this for a couple hours I have to share some really funny insight......we are concerned more about our horses health in regards to FDA regulations than we are our own health, I know for a fact almost every person I know has taken a vitamin or supplement that is not FDA regulated. Go home and look in your medicine cabinet, I bet you would be surprised how many supplements have no governing body......good enough to go into our own bodies but not into our horses. 
I think that is a funny way to look at this whole thing.
I would say that all of these non regulated drugs, while not always effective, they sure aren't harmful, otherwise they would kill off their patients and no one would buy their products anymore.
Also, can someone post a link to the science or reasearch behind ulcergards "magic additive" that makes it better than plain omeprazole?
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Location: North Dakota | Ok so this is a whole new, confusing world to me. Ulcer guard and GastroGuard are brands of products for treating ulcers. Omeprazole is the medicine inside them in varying amounts? Am I right? |
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Location: North Dakota | Yes, just like advil is the name brand of a drug called ibuprofen.
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| cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-20 1:28 PM
Ok so this is a whole new, confusing world to me. Ulcer guard and GastroGuard are brands of products for treating ulcers. Omeprazole is the medicine inside them in varying amounts? Am I right?
Omeprazole is the active ingredient in Gastroguard/Ulcerguard. Ulcerguard and gastroguard are made by the same company, and are IDENTICAL to one another. Only difference is ulcerguard is labeled to be given in 1/4 tube doses and gastroguard is labeled for 1 complete tube daily to TREAT ulcers. Gastro (1/4 dose) prevents them. You technically need a vets prescription to give your horse the ENTIRE tube at once ( Gastroguard). Hope that helps! |
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| gagrl - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM gagrl - 2015-03-19 10:16 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.INGREDIENTS:Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day? I use it everyday. Double dose race days or hauling. It creates a barrier in the stomach to buffer acids How does this create mucosal lining, as the product doesn't say it does, if you are a dealer that can be interpreted at false advertising. All I see is a stomach soother. I would like to see the research on the long term use, physically and physiologically, including serum calcium levels (can be detrimental to cardiac output if the ca levels are above the normal range ) I guess u could consider it a stomach soother. It's not an acid blocker like the rx meds are. I personally take rx meds for acid.. and have had this conversation with my doctor the difference. some things will quit working if taken everyday. I have seen massive change in my horses since being on the Ulser shield. They look healthier and take things in stride without stressing. No more loose poop either. Yes I am a distributor. . Now. But I only became one to get a discount on the products I had already been buying for years.
Then I suggest going back and changing your original post
As you said it creates a mucosal lining
Unless there is scientific evidence the product does this, you are making false claims one can even say fraudulently misguiding people into buying the product. |
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Location: Georgia | cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 5:03 PM
gagrl - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM gagrl - 2015-03-19 10:16 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.INGREDIENTS:Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day? I use it everyday. Double dose race days or hauling. It creates a barrier in the stomach to buffer acids How does this create mucosal lining, as the product doesn't say it does, if you are a dealer that can be interpreted at false advertising. All I see is a stomach soother. I would like to see the research on the long term use, physically and physiologically, including serum calcium levels (can be detrimental to cardiac output if the ca levels are above the normal range ) I guess u could consider it a stomach soother. It's not an acid blocker like the rx meds are. I personally take rx meds for acid.. and have had this conversation with my doctor the difference. some things will quit working if taken everyday. I have seen massive change in my horses since being on the Ulser shield. They look healthier and take things in stride without stressing. No more loose poop either. Yes I am a distributor. . Now. But I only became one to get a discount on the products I had already been buying for years.
Then I suggest going back and changing your original post
As you said it creates a mucosal lining
Unless there is scientific evidence the product does this, you are making false claims one can even say fraudulently misguiding people into buying the product.
I understand what your trying to say... but the product does create a lining or barrier to protect the stomach. . Thats what I was trying to say. It does work. It's one if the best sellers along with the lung aid. And is affordable for the average horse person. I have used it for years. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 2:03 PM
gagrl - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM
cheryl makofka - 2015-03-20 1:37 PM gagrl - 2015-03-19 10:16 AM FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.INGREDIENTS:Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day? I use it everyday. Double dose race days or hauling. It creates a barrier in the stomach to buffer acids How does this create mucosal lining, as the product doesn't say it does, if you are a dealer that can be interpreted at false advertising. All I see is a stomach soother. I would like to see the research on the long term use, physically and physiologically, including serum calcium levels (can be detrimental to cardiac output if the ca levels are above the normal range ) I guess u could consider it a stomach soother. It's not an acid blocker like the rx meds are. I personally take rx meds for acid.. and have had this conversation with my doctor the difference. some things will quit working if taken everyday. I have seen massive change in my horses since being on the Ulser shield. They look healthier and take things in stride without stressing. No more loose poop either. Yes I am a distributor. . Now. But I only became one to get a discount on the products I had already been buying for years.
Then I suggest going back and changing your original post
As you said it creates a mucosal lining
Unless there is scientific evidence the product does this, you are making false claims one can even say fraudulently misguiding people into buying the product.
I don't think anyone is trying to be fraudulent. Protective lining protective barrier etc. We get the idea. I don't think for 1 minute the intent was to mislead. I have used the product off and on with great results to. But I don't use it on a daily basis. |
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Location: Wyoming | Compounded or "generic" omeprazole DOES NOT WORK. Ulcergard and gastrogard are the only treatments that cure ulcers. That's why they're so expensive. People just waste their money on these other "treatments" rather than just spending the money on the FDA approved ulcer cure.. Pricey but IT WORKS. |
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Location: MD | Since when does GastroGuard work? Hell, I have spent more money "treating" with Gastro Guard over the years, some of them for several months and still not taken care of the ulcers. |
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Location: North Dakota | FLITASTIC - 2015-03-20 3:40 PM
cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-20 1:28 PM
Ok so this is a whole new, confusing world to me. Ulcer guard and GastroGuard are brands of products for treating ulcers. Omeprazole is the medicine inside them in varying amounts? Am I right?
Omeprazole is the active ingredient in Gastroguard/Ulcerguard. Ulcerguard and gastroguard are made by the same company, and are IDENTICAL to one another. Only difference is ulcerguard is labeled to be given in 1/4 tube doses and gastroguard is labeled for 1 complete tube daily to TREAT ulcers. Gastro (1/4 dose ) prevents them. You technically need a vets prescription to give your horse the ENTIRE tube at once ( Gastroguard ). Hope that helps!
Ok thanks that makes sense. |
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Location: North Dakota | WrapSnap - 2015-03-20 11:06 PM
Since when does GastroGuard work? Hell, I have spent more money "treating" with Gastro Guard over the years, some of them for several months and still not taken care of the ulcers.
What do you prefer then? |
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Location: MD | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-21 12:55 AM
WrapSnap - 2015-03-20 11:06 PM
Since when does GastroGuard work? Hell, I have spent more money "treating" with Gastro Guard over the years, some of them for several months and still not taken care of the ulcers.
What do you prefer then?
In all honesty, I've had better results from Oxy Ulcer and a proper feeding program than anything. |
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Location: North Dakota | WrapSnap - 2015-03-21 8:06 AM
cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-03-21 12:55 AM
WrapSnap - 2015-03-20 11:06 PM
Since when does GastroGuard work? Hell, I have spent more money "treating" with Gastro Guard over the years, some of them for several months and still not taken care of the ulcers.
What do you prefer then?
In all honesty, I've had better results from Oxy Ulcer and a proper feeding program than anything.
Ok. Cool cool. Lots of things to research. |
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Location: North Dakota | WrapSnap - 2015-03-20 11:06 PM Since when does GastroGuard work? Hell, I have spent more money "treating" with Gastro Guard over the years, some of them for several months and still not taken care of the ulcers.
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| babiemox - 2015-03-23 1:59 PM
They just removed these from their website : (
Dr. Ford sales a compounded kind we have had success with and its reasonably priced. |
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| cuckleburr - 2015-03-19 12:10 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield
Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.
A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.
If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.
INGREDIENTS:
Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane
New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day?
I use this on 3 head of horses and it works GREAT! I had one gelding who was scoped and was confirmed for ulcers we used this product after he did the treatment period of omeprazole . Now we have 3 horses on this and we give them it every day and they look and act WONDERFUL. It was recommended to me by two different vets. |
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| EmtRoper - 2015-03-23 12:31 PM
cuckleburr - 2015-03-19 12:10 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-03-19 10:46 AM gagrl - 2015-03-19 6:41 AM $60 for the gallon size last 1 horse up to 2 months. Use coupon code cockk for 10% off and free shipping! I keep all my riding horses on this as a preventative and weight. Helps with the nervous nellies too.
Ulser Shield
Ulser Shield begins to neutralize acid on contact.
A mucosal protector, Magnesium and Calcium form a barrier over the mucosal lining. Calcium Carbonate reduces the acidity of the stomach and helps promote proper digestion and nutrient absorption. Polydimenthylsiloxane, an anti-gas, helps reduce trapped air in mucous, which may be associated with equine ulsers.
If your horse displays poor appetite, mild to severe colic, poor condition, attitude changes and poor training performance, you may be seeing the early signs of an ulcer. Add Ulser Shield to your horses daily diet and early treatment may prevent the use of Gastro Guard. Ulser Shield is a marvelous maintenance for horses following a course of Gastro Guard.
INGREDIENTS:
Preservatives
Magnesium Oxide
Calcium Carbonate
Polydimethylsiloxane
New Size!
Available by the quart ($20.00), half gallon ($35.00) or gallon $60.00 I saw it can be used every day. Doesn't a horse need acids to break down food? WOuldnt the calcium and magnesium actually block nutrient absorption if used over a long period of time? I bet this product would be awesome to use on race day or for nervous horses when hauling. Anyone else use it every day?
I use this on 3 head of horses and it works GREAT! I had one gelding who was scoped and was confirmed for ulcers we used this product after he did the treatment period of omeprazole . Now we have 3 horses on this and we give them it every day and they look and act WONDERFUL. It was recommended to me by two different vets.
Awesome to know! And its very reasonably priced. |
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| babiemox - 2015-03-23 12:59 PM They just removed these from their website : (
I emailed her and they are doing some site maintenance about how it will be ordered from now on, but will be back up in a few days. You can still call and order or the email is at the bottom of the website and order that way. |
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Location: North Dakota | Ok guys, what about Oxy-Max? I just can't decide! There are so many options out there! THE would be affordable and comes highly recommended (MM special blend) but I have never gotten my horse to eat powders and my barn will be feeding him so no adding water or juice or anything. It's gotta be dump-n-go. I ordered the Omeprazole from Douglas because I can NOT afford $1000 a month for Gastroguard. But obviously that is just for treatment/extra high stress times. I am not impressed with the SmartGut products but there are some other neat ones at SmartPak. But I saw the Oxy-Max which is a pellet (yay!) and covers ulcers, joints, and lungs, which are my 3 main concerns with this particular horse. Any opinions on it? Do I still need to give a multi vitamin supplement? He isn't on a complete feed. |
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