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That's really cool.
Did he call you or one of his people to let you know this?
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| heidiinaz - 2015-03-22 9:53 AM
It was on Fox News. I think he has a chance. Given his last name he might appeal to the Hispanic vote. We sure as hell can't continue the way we are going.
I gotcha
I don't typically watch the news so I wouldn't have seen that.
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Location: Florida.. | RidenFly - 2015-03-22 11:40 AM I don't doubt the GOP won't shoot itself in the foot again by thumbing it's nose at Constitutional conservative. They'll probably do what they did last time and ignore grassroots and chose a puppet like Bush. And it looks as if our new member, arion has been around for awhile. Nice to see you again, Dear.
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Location: oklahoma | RidenFly - 2015-03-22 10:40 AM I don't doubt the GOP won't shoot itself in the foot again by thumbing it's nose at Constitutional conservative. They'll probably do what they did last time and ignore grassroots and chose a puppet like Bush. And it looks as if our new member, arion has been around for awhile. Nice to see you again, Dear.
Arion, the immortal horse, gifted with speech. I googled, lol. Acts more like mr. Ed. 
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Location: Paradise , tx | jbhoot - 2015-03-22 7:11 AM I like him.... Bright Guy.....Does not stand a chance.....North east and the west coast will never go for him.
Sadly, I think you are correct. He is well known in Texas, but I have heard others from more northern states make statements about him and Perry (not favorable). Unfortunatly a very large majority of people in the USA now adays think the government is suppose to take care of them  Most conservatives do not think that way, and I know most Texas do not understand this concept. though I
do know of a few Texans that think this way (thankful a small number). I hope and pray that God will instill a Godly man in office and lead our country back to being a strong country again. But if people keep electing someone that makes promises that cannot be kept,at the expense of the common worker, soon we will be on a down hill slide that cannot be fixed and will break our country and make us vulnerable to our enemies that want to destory us. |
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| EnterUp - 2015-03-22 1:55 PM All I know is that it should be a breeze for any of them to beat Hillary. She has given everyone enough ammunition to blow her out of the water You guys don't get it. My son married into a liberal family. They truly do not care how much someone like Hillary messes up. They are into "social justice," debt forgivness of student loans, freedom of choice, gay marriage and they don't mind electing a murdering, lying person so long as they get to feel good about what they did. Yes, for some reason, this makes them feel good.
A recent poll at Texas Tech showed few college students knew who won the civil war. Do you think they care about four murdered men in a place they can't pronounce?
I would love Cruz, Jindal, Carson or even Perry but don't think any of them can win.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | kmcsunshine - 2015-03-22 4:05 PM EnterUp - 2015-03-22 1:55 PM All I know is that it should be a breeze for any of them to beat Hillary. She has given everyone enough ammunition to blow her out of the water You guys don't get it. My son married into a liberal family. They truly do not care how much someone like Hillary messes up. They are into "social justice," debt forgivness of student loans, freedom of choice, gay marriage and they don't mind electing a murdering, lying person so long as they get to feel good about what they did. Yes, for some reason, this makes them feel good.
A recent poll at Texas Tech showed few college students knew who won the civil war. Do you think they care about four murdered men in a place they can't pronounce?
I would love Cruz, Jindal, Carson or even Perry but don't think any of them can win.
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West coast will go for him.
Riden They elected Jerry Brown for Gov. you really think they would vote for a man like Mr. Cruz. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | kmcsunshine - 2015-03-22 4:05 PM EnterUp - 2015-03-22 1:55 PM All I know is that it should be a breeze for any of them to beat Hillary. She has given everyone enough ammunition to blow her out of the water You guys don't get it. My son married into a liberal family. They truly do not care how much someone like Hillary messes up. They are into "social justice," debt forgivness of student loans, freedom of choice, gay marriage and they don't mind electing a murdering, lying person so long as they get to feel good about what they did. Yes, for some reason, this makes them feel good.
A recent poll at Texas Tech showed few college students knew who won the civil war. Do you think they care about four murdered men in a place they can't pronounce?
I would love Cruz, Jindal, Carson or even Perry but don't think any of them can win.
Family gatherings must be interesting. My in-laws are the same way. No clue how my hubby turned conservative Rep but thankfully he did. There's some heated political arguments with his so called father. |
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | Bibliafarm - 2015-03-22 11:12 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-22 11:40 AM I don't doubt the GOP won't shoot itself in the foot again by thumbing it's nose at Constitutional conservative. They'll probably do what they did last time and ignore grassroots and chose a puppet like Bush. And it looks as if our new member, arion has been around for awhile. Nice to see you again, Dear. ... What about Ben Carson? I havent kept up lately.. your thoughts? not strong enough mentally , not security intelligent? Im all ears.. if anyone knows ...
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | Southtxponygirl - 2015-03-22 5:04 PM kmcsunshine - 2015-03-22 4:05 PM EnterUp - 2015-03-22 1:55 PM All I know is that it should be a breeze for any of them to beat Hillary. She has given everyone enough ammunition to blow her out of the water You guys don't get it. My son married into a liberal family. They truly do not care how much someone like Hillary messes up. They are into "social justice," debt forgivness of student loans, freedom of choice, gay marriage and they don't mind electing a murdering, lying person so long as they get to feel good about what they did. Yes, for some reason, this makes them feel good.
A recent poll at Texas Tech showed few college students knew who won the civil war. Do you think they care about four murdered men in a place they can't pronounce?
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| jettster - 2015-03-22 10:58 PM
I like Ted Cruz.. what say you about Condolezza Rice?
I sure think she is sharp, and has class, and toughness..
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Location: Kansas | I know not everyone has the respect for Karl Rove that I do but on FOX this morning he described Cruz as "incredibly smart, articulate, and he was in fact a master debater in college. He attended Harvard University, Princeton, and Harvard Law School. Impressive. The fact that he was born in Canada is possibly problematic but if Kenya wasn't an issue why should Canada be. |
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I know not everyone has the respect for Karl Rove that I do but on FOX this morning he described Cruz as "incredibly smart, articulate, and he was in fact a master debater in college. He attended Harvard University, Princeton, and Harvard Law School. Impressive. The fact that he was born in Canada is possibly problematic but if Kenya wasn't an issue why should Canada be.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2015-03-23 6:48 AM
Are we going to have another election cycle where some folks are going to preach that we shouldn't support who we want because the GOP Think Tank doesn't find them "Electable?" I hope not. It got us a big fat nothing last time around. Wanna know why Romney lost? Because when they finalled up their tally, GRASSROOTS stayed home. You know, the people who actually still don't give a rip about what some stuffed suit says about how they should think or where they should place thier votes?
Condoleeza is a genius. She won't run because she's too smart.
Yes, that's right, Obama won because Republicrats were stubborn and stupid and the Democrats got out their vote in record numbers. That's exactly what will happen again barring some miracle. Dumb asses threw their lollipops in the dirt and didn't care enough to stop and think that Obama and the Progressives needed to be stopped. They didn't care enough too get their lazy asses to the polls......under the guise of "sticking to principles", we are all paying the price.
I like Ted Cruz, but you have to ask yourselves what has he actually done? I think at this point in time he should remain right where he is. When you think about it, he is basically the conservative's version of Obama. He's the "anti-Obama", if you will. Like Obama, he's a junior senator. Like Obama, he's lacking in executive experience. He's basically Sarah Palin with balls.
Scott Walker is an impressive guy. He's battle hardened, yet he has been steadfast in his conservative principles. He said what needed to be done for Wisconsin, said what he would do.....then he was elected.....then he did what he said he would do. He withstood a withering barrage from the left, which included the full might of the labor unions across the country, as well as every liberal heavyweight the progressives could throw at him......all this in a traditionally left wing state. I like his cool demeanor and his clarity. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Bear - 2015-03-22 10:25 AM
RidenFly - 2015-03-23 6:48 AM
Are we going to have another election cycle where some folks are going to preach that we shouldn't support who we want because the GOP Think Tank doesn't find them "Electable?" I hope not. It got us a big fat nothing last time around. Wanna know why Romney lost? Because when they finalled up their tally, GRASSROOTS stayed home. You know, the people who actually still don't give a rip about what some stuffed suit says about how they should think or where they should place thier votes?
Condoleeza is a genius. She won't run because she's too smart.
Yes, that's right, Obama won because Republicrats were stubborn and stupid and the Democrats got out their vote in record numbers. That's exactly what will happen again barring some miracle. Dumb asses threw their lollipops in the dirt and didn't care enough to stop and think that Obama and the Progressives needed to be stopped. They didn't care enough too get their lazy asses to the polls......under the guise of "sticking to principles", we are all paying the price.
I like Ted Cruz, but you have to ask yourselves what has he actually done? I think at this point in time he should remain right where he is. When you think about it, he is basically the conservative's version of Obama. He's the "anti-Obama", if you will. Like Obama, he's a junior senator. Like Obama, he's lacking in executive experience. He's basically Sarah Palin with balls.
Scott Walker is an impressive guy. He's battle hardened, yet he has been steadfast in his conservative principles. He said what needed to be done for Wisconsin, said what he would do.....then he was elected.....then he did what he said he would do. He withstood a withering barrage from the left, which included the full might of the labor unions across the country, as well as every liberal heavyweight the progressives could throw at him......all this in a traditionally left wing state. I like his cool demeanor and his clarity.
Agree with you on Cruz.......yes he's talked a lot etc and should stay where he is at.......yes to Scott Walker.
Cruz will not get the GOP nominee he will be shredded to bits with his conservative values the liberal media will have a hay day on moral beliefs.
example same sex marriage........
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| Bear - 2015-03-24 7:25 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-23 6:48 AM Are we going to have another election cycle where some folks are going to preach that we shouldn't support who we want because the GOP Think Tank doesn't find them "Electable?" I hope not. It got us a big fat nothing last time around. Wanna know why Romney lost? Because when they finalled up their tally, GRASSROOTS stayed home. You know, the people who actually still don't give a rip about what some stuffed suit says about how they should think or where they should place thier votes?
Condoleeza is a genius. She won't run because she's too smart. Yes, that's right, Obama won because Republicrats were stubborn and stupid and the Democrats got out their vote in record numbers. That's exactly what will happen again barring some miracle. Dumb asses threw their lollipops in the dirt and didn't care enough to stop and think that Obama and the Progressives needed to be stopped. They didn't care enough too get their lazy asses to the polls......under the guise of "sticking to principles", we are all paying the price. I like Ted Cruz, but you have to ask yourselves what has he actually done? I think at this point in time he should remain right where he is. When you think about it, he is basically the conservative's version of Obama. He's the "anti-Obama", if you will. Like Obama, he's a junior senator. Like Obama, he's lacking in executive experience. He's basically Sarah Palin with balls. Scott Walker is an impressive guy. He's battle hardened, yet he has been steadfast in his conservative principles. He said what needed to be done for Wisconsin, said what he would do.....then he was elected.....then he did what he said he would do. He withstood a withering barrage from the left, which included the full might of the labor unions across the country, as well as every liberal heavyweight the progressives could throw at him......all this in a traditionally left wing state. I like his cool demeanor and his clarity.
Oh, yeah.... We did go several rounds last time, didn't we Scott over this whole vote for who we say and not who you want thing, didn't we? But you have to remember, so many people under the umbrella of
"Republican" Are in fact, NOT. That's probably where you should be more concerned. The Democrats are like K.C. said. "GLUED and TATTOOED to whatever feel good candidate the party dangles at them. It's going to be hard to beat that no matter what. BUT c'mon. Put the blame where it belongs. It belongs with the GOP OLD GOATS that keep giving us SHIITTTY choices with OLD Fluckers that don't give a hoot about anything but dancing on the establishment strings. Nobody connects with that message anymore. |
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| musikmaker - 2015-03-24 7:36 AM It's all just rhetoric anyhow...we're stuck with Obama, he ain't going anywhere.
(I like Cruz...so far. We'll see if he stays away from the stupid stuff like abortion & gay marriage.)
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Location: PNW | RidenFly - 2015-03-22 8:43 AM
West coast will go for him.
Are you nuts? Some of the most populated liberal strong holds are on the West coast: Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Medford, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego.....
Those cities repeatedly screw the rest of their states because of their numbers. I live in Oregon and if you look at a voting map, the entire state EXCEPT for the I-5 corridor (Portland, Eugene, Medford) is agriculture-based and conservative. We still manage to repeatedly elect liberal leaders every voting cycle because of the population in those areas.
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| svincent - 2015-03-24 7:53 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-22 8:43 AM West coast will go for him. Are you nuts? Some of the most populated liberal strong holds are on the West coast: Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Medford, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego..... Those cities repeatedly screw the rest of their states because of their numbers. I live in Oregon and if you look at a voting map, the entire state EXCEPT for the I-5 corridor (Portland, Eugene, Medford ) is agriculture-based and conservative. We still manage to repeatedly elect liberal leaders every voting cycle because of the population in those areas. There is no way that the West coast will play a key role in getting ANY conservative nominee into the White House - much less Ted Cruz.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | arion - 2015-03-23 9:19 AM Frodo - 2015-03-23 9:11 AM I know not everyone has the respect for Karl Rove that I do but on FOX this morning he described Cruz as "incredibly smart, articulate, and he was in fact a master debater in college. He attended Harvard University, Princeton, and Harvard Law School. Impressive. The fact that he was born in Canada is possibly problematic but if Kenya wasn't an issue why should Canada be. a Master Debater Hmmm 
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svincent - 2015-03-24 7:53 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-22 8:43 AM West coast will go for him. Are you nuts? Some of the most populated liberal strong holds are on the West coast: Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Medford, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego..... Those cities repeatedly screw the rest of their states because of their numbers. I live in Oregon and if you look at a voting map, the entire state EXCEPT for the I-5 corridor (Portland, Eugene, Medford ) is agriculture-based and conservative. We still manage to repeatedly elect liberal leaders every voting cycle because of the population in those areas. There is no way that the West coast will play a key role in getting ANY conservative nominee into the White House - much less Ted Cruz.
I'm so confused. Your post that I replied to said "West coast will go for him." You wrote that in response to somebody else saying that "the west coast and east coast will never go for him."
As in "the west coast will vote for him" or "the west coast will like him" or "the west coast will love him"
Is that not what you meant?
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| svincent - 2015-03-24 7:59 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-23 9:56 AM svincent - 2015-03-24 7:53 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-22 8:43 AM West coast will go for him. Are you nuts? Some of the most populated liberal strong holds are on the West coast: Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Medford, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego..... Those cities repeatedly screw the rest of their states because of their numbers. I live in Oregon and if you look at a voting map, the entire state EXCEPT for the I-5 corridor (Portland, Eugene, Medford ) is agriculture-based and conservative. We still manage to repeatedly elect liberal leaders every voting cycle because of the population in those areas. There is no way that the West coast will play a key role in getting ANY conservative nominee into the White House - much less Ted Cruz. I'm so confused. Your post that I replied to said "West coast will go for him." You wrote that in response to somebody else saying that "the west coast and east coast will never go for him." As in "the west coast will vote for him" or "the west coast will like him" or "the west coast will love him" Is that not what you meant?
I'm sorry. I was being snarky. The West is solid blue. I don't know a republican that can take California, Oregon or Wash. |
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Location: PNW | RidenFly - 2015-03-23 10:05 AM
svincent - 2015-03-24 7:59 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-23 9:56 AM svincent - 2015-03-24 7:53 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-22 8:43 AM West coast will go for him. Are you nuts? Some of the most populated liberal strong holds are on the West coast: Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Medford, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego..... Those cities repeatedly screw the rest of their states because of their numbers. I live in Oregon and if you look at a voting map, the entire state EXCEPT for the I-5 corridor (Portland, Eugene, Medford ) is agriculture-based and conservative. We still manage to repeatedly elect liberal leaders every voting cycle because of the population in those areas. There is no way that the West coast will play a key role in getting ANY conservative nominee into the White House - much less Ted Cruz. I'm so confused. Your post that I replied to said "West coast will go for him." You wrote that in response to somebody else saying that "the west coast and east coast will never go for him." As in "the west coast will vote for him" or "the west coast will like him" or "the west coast will love him" Is that not what you meant?
The only one that would do well out here would be Paul. A LOT of college students are really getting on board the Libertarian train and are definitely looking for something new. While we are a giant blue stripe on the nation - we do have many many many college kids. I have even heard students at the University of Oregon (liberal mega hotspot) saying that they are tired of Obama and really like what the "Rand Paul guy" is about. |
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Location: PNW | Bear - 2015-03-23 10:29 AM
If I had to choose a Senator, I would pick Rubio before I'd pick Cruz.
I love me some politics, I truly do; BUT I have decided that until people ACTUALLY start throwing their hats in the ring, I am going to try REALLY HARD to not get too attached to anybody OR get my panties in a bunch about anybody. I am trying to remain very zen and optimistic until I have more information.lol |
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Location: PNW | Bear - 2015-03-23 10:42 AM
I need to get me some of that Zen. Where can I order it, Sam? Love me some Zen! Cool word.
I find mine in a hot cup of coffee. I have also been abstaining from watching any news but the weather. It has done wonders for my stress level. I tend to watch Fox news like some people watch ESPN - with lots of emotion and gesturing at the TV. |
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Location: PNW | RidenFly - 2015-03-23 10:55 AM
How can you pick one over the other until the debates begin and we can see who can hold their own? Since chances are good that it will be against Hillary, I want someone that isn't afraid to confront her. Which, will be a challenge to confront her and not appear to be attacking a woman. It's only okay to attack Palin and her kids. No other woman shall be harmed in the making of this Presidency.
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Location: Kansas | Frodo - 2015-03-23 8:11 AM I know not everyone has the respect for Karl Rove that I do but on FOX this morning he described Cruz as "incredibly smart, articulate, and he was in fact a master debater in college. He attended Harvard University, Princeton, and Harvard Law School. Impressive. The fact that he was born in Canada is possibly problematic but if Kenya wasn't an issue why should Canada be.
Ok, someone explain something to me.... If Cruz was born in Canada, how is he going to be able to run for the office of President, being he's not a natural born citizen?? |
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| HarlanLivesOn - 2015-03-23 3:45 PM
Frodo - 2015-03-23 8:11 AM I know not everyone has the respect for Karl Rove that I do but on FOX this morning he described Cruz as "incredibly smart, articulate, and he was in fact a master debater in college. He attended Harvard University, Princeton, and Harvard Law School. Impressive. The fact that he was born in Canada is possibly problematic but if Kenya wasn't an issue why should Canada be.
Ok, someone explain something to me.... If Cruz was born in Canada, how is he going to be able to run for the office of President, being he's not a natural born citizen??
He was and is.
His mother is US citizen and his father was cuban immigrant here legally and is now a citizen.
So even if he was born in Canada, he was born in Canada as US citizen
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Location: PNW | arion - 2015-03-23 4:34 PM
HarlanLivesOn - 2015-03-23 3:45 PM
Frodo - 2015-03-23 8:11 AM I know not everyone has the respect for Karl Rove that I do but on FOX this morning he described Cruz as "incredibly smart, articulate, and he was in fact a master debater in college. He attended Harvard University, Princeton, and Harvard Law School. Impressive. The fact that he was born in Canada is possibly problematic but if Kenya wasn't an issue why should Canada be.
Ok, someone explain something to me.... If Cruz was born in Canada, how is he going to be able to run for the office of President, being he's not a natural born citizen??
He was and is.
His mother is US citizen and his father was cuban immigrant here legally and is now a citizen.
So even if he was born in Canada, he was born in Canada as US citizen
Here is an easy to digest constitutional explanation:
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Location: Stephenville, TX | svincent - 2015-03-23 10:09 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-23 10:05 AM svincent - 2015-03-24 7:59 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-23 9:56 AM svincent - 2015-03-24 7:53 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-22 8:43 AM West coast will go for him. Are you nuts? Some of the most populated liberal strong holds are on the West coast: Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Medford, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego..... Those cities repeatedly screw the rest of their states because of their numbers. I live in Oregon and if you look at a voting map, the entire state EXCEPT for the I-5 corridor (Portland, Eugene, Medford ) is agriculture-based and conservative. We still manage to repeatedly elect liberal leaders every voting cycle because of the population in those areas. There is no way that the West coast will play a key role in getting ANY conservative nominee into the White House - much less Ted Cruz. I'm so confused. Your post that I replied to said "West coast will go for him." You wrote that in response to somebody else saying that "the west coast and east coast will never go for him." As in "the west coast will vote for him" or "the west coast will like him" or "the west coast will love him" Is that not what you meant? The only one that would do well out here would be Paul. A LOT of college students are really getting on board the Libertarian train and are definitely looking for something new. While we are a giant blue stripe on the nation - we do have many many many college kids. I have even heard students at the University of Oregon (liberal mega hotspot ) saying that they are tired of Obama and really like what the "Rand Paul guy" is about.
Oregonians might be more open to switching teams after Kitzhaber4.0
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Location: PNW | Running Roan - 2015-03-23 3:39 PM
svincent - 2015-03-23 10:09 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-23 10:05 AM svincent - 2015-03-24 7:59 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-23 9:56 AM svincent - 2015-03-24 7:53 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-22 8:43 AM West coast will go for him. Are you nuts? Some of the most populated liberal strong holds are on the West coast: Seattle, Portland, Eugene, Medford, San Francisco, Los Angeles, San Diego..... Those cities repeatedly screw the rest of their states because of their numbers. I live in Oregon and if you look at a voting map, the entire state EXCEPT for the I-5 corridor (Portland, Eugene, Medford ) is agriculture-based and conservative. We still manage to repeatedly elect liberal leaders every voting cycle because of the population in those areas. There is no way that the West coast will play a key role in getting ANY conservative nominee into the White House - much less Ted Cruz. I'm so confused. Your post that I replied to said "West coast will go for him." You wrote that in response to somebody else saying that "the west coast and east coast will never go for him." As in "the west coast will vote for him" or "the west coast will like him" or "the west coast will love him" Is that not what you meant? The only one that would do well out here would be Paul. A LOT of college students are really getting on board the Libertarian train and are definitely looking for something new. While we are a giant blue stripe on the nation - we do have many many many college kids. I have even heard students at the University of Oregon (liberal mega hotspot ) saying that they are tired of Obama and really like what the "Rand Paul guy" is about.
Oregonians might be more open to switching teams after Kitzhaber4.0
Hahahahahahahhahahahahhahahahah!!!!!!
You would think so, but no. They also haven't learned anything from the bazillion years of DeFazio, Wyden, and the like.... I face palm a lot living in this state. I am a Texan living in the wrong place. I swear. |
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Location: n.c. | Heck, I'll vote for Donald Trump! At least he knows how to climb out of a heck hole of debt.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | runningk - 2015-03-23 6:17 PM Heck, I'll vote for Donald Trump! At least he knows how to climb out of a heck hole of debt.
He's done it numerous times.
Donald Trump has filed for corporate bankruptcy four times........ |
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Location: Texas | I know a lot of people who are really stoked about him announcing his running. I'm going to be surprised if he makes it too far though. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I think Cruz is where he belongs and I can't see him in the White House but then again I sure didn't think Obama would make it there with his lack of record and absentee voting. This country better start voting using their brains instead of voting like dumb asses. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | runningk - 2015-03-23 5:17 PM Heck, I'll vote for Donald Trump! At least he knows how to climb out of a heck hole of debt.
He's done it numerous times.
Haha...we were sitting around here talking about the religious freaks on the right and mother earth freaks (still religion) on the left...decided Donald Trump's looking pretty good right now...just a plain freak! Lol... |
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Location: Texas | One of the Sunday morning political talking heads said that he doubted that Cruz would win the nomination but thought he might be the VP on the ticket. Don't think that will ever happen. He has his eyes set on being president. How about a Perry/Cruz ticket? Now that would be a hoot. |
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| It never ceases to amaze me how stupid white people vote year after year. Right now we have a muslim for president and thinking about voting in a crook from Arkansas and adding another family member from a well known One World Order clan!!
A Christian and/or a successful business man that believes in our constitution shows up to run for president and all we hear is a lot of dissing and pettiness coming from all directions!!
The more the progressive democrat communists, liberal news media and old established GOP party hacks diss someone .. the more Americans should like this person and call out the entire nation to vote for him!!
TIME MAGAZINE ACCIDENTLY TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT TED CRUZ AND WILL BE ON OBAMA'S REVENGE LIST ....
THANK YOU TIME MAGAZINE...
CRUZ IS WHAT AMERICANS HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR!!
Be sure and read the entire article ... there is more text beyond the picture of Cruz >>
http://time.com/3753541/ted-cruz-texas-senator-gop/
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| .... Interesting Facts About Ted Cruz You Didn't Know
Ted Cruz set a few records as Texas solicitor general He was the first Hispanic solicitor general of Texas. He was also the youngest person to become the solicitor general in the United States.
Cruz argued cases in front of the U.S. Supreme Court Cruz has argued nine cases in front of the U.S. Supreme Court. This record of having argued before the Supreme Court nine times is more than any practicing lawyer in Texas or any current member of Congress.
Running for the Senate was his first political campaign Before running and winning his Senate seat in 2012, he had never held an elective office before. His win was the biggest upset of the 2012 election.
Ted Cruz was a law clerk for a chief justice of the Supreme Court In 1996, Ted Cruz served as a law clerk to William Rehnquist.
He was also the first Hispanic to clerk for a Chief Justice of the United States Earned degrees from two Ivy League universities Cruz graduated Cum Laude from Princeton University with a B.A. in Public Policy.
His second degree is from Harvard Law School where he graduated Magna Cum Laude with a Juris Doctor degree.
Ted Cruz was born in Canada Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada, in 1970. His parents were working in the oil business in Canada. His father was born in Cuba and his mother was born in Delaware - and he is a U.S. citizen because his mother was born in the United States. He held dual citizenship in both the United States and Canada until he revoked his Canadian citizenship in 2014.
Cruz was a law professor Before becoming a senator, Ted Cruz was an adjunct law professor. From 2004 to 2009, Cruz taught U.S. Supreme Court Litigation at the University of Texas.
Won a debate national championship Cruz, along with his classmate David Panton, won the American Parliamentary Debate Association national championship while at Princeton.
Cruz was also named Speaker of the Year. So, we know about Ted Cruz's academic record?
Tell me again why Barack Obama's is sealed tighter then Ft Knox?
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| Bear - 2015-03-23 10:29 AM If I had to choose a Senator, I would pick Rubio before I'd pick Cruz.
Why? Rubio wants open borders.
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Location: Where I am happiest | IF rural America would actually go vote, they could out vote the liberal cities. It would take every single eligable voter to actually go vote though. |
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Location: Kansas | Thanks for the interesting info BarrelHorseUSA. God forbid we get someone brimming with "intelligence" in the White House and ready to put Obamacare on the obsolete list.
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| ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 7:58 AM
IF rural America would actually go vote, they could out vote the liberal cities. It would take every single eligable voter to actually go vote though.
And there in lies the problem. |
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| jbhoot - 2015-03-25 6:47 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 7:58 AM IF rural America would actually go vote, they could out vote the liberal cities. It would take every single eligable voter to actually go vote though. And there in lies the problem.
It's not a problem if GOP would just STOP with the same ol stuffed suits. |
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Location: NW. Florida | ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 7:58 AM IF rural America would actually go vote, they could out vote the liberal cities. It would take every single eligable voter to actually go vote though.
That's not a true statement in the State of Florida. Our state was red until South Florida polls were in. It then became blue. |
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| Carbon Copy - 2015-03-25 7:49 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 7:58 AM IF rural America would actually go vote, they could out vote the liberal cities. It would take every single eligable voter to actually go vote though. That's not a true statement in the State of Florida. Our state was red until South Florida polls were in. It then became blue.
Is South Florida predominate latino? I ask, because Cruz is fluent in spanish and probably plans to use that to his advantage. Not all latino's are happy about the new immigration laws. Many came here the right way and are miffed. They are the ones that if treated with respect, could scoot over to the right. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | kmcsunshine - 2015-03-24 5:41 AM
Bear - 2015-03-23 10:29 AM If I had to choose a Senator, I would pick Rubio before I'd pick Cruz.
Why? Rubio wants open borders.
I've never read that Rubio wants open borders. Show me where he said this. I have heard him explain his position on immigration reform, and actually, so far it seems like the one solution of actually getting acted upon. I am sick and tired of hearing about it, to be honest. Look there is no way we are going to deport 11 million illegal immigrants. NOBODY, including Ted Cruz will accomplish this. Everything I have read and heard tells me he is all for securing the border.....100%. I realize that everyone loves hearing "secure the borders", but everyone is saying it too. Meanwhile, the politicians are playing us for suckers. I honestly think both sides like having this problem unresolved, just like they like having social security unresolved, and tax reform unresolved. They have to have a tool or gimmick to keep their respective bases fired up. That's how I see it.
Here's his stance:
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-03-24 3:19 AM
.... Interesting Facts About Ted Cruz You Didn't Know
Ted Cruz set a few records as Texas solicitor general He was the first Hispanic solicitor general of Texas. He was also the youngest person to become the solicitor general in the United States.
Cruz argued cases in front of the U.S. Supreme Court Cruz has argued nine cases in front of the U.S. Supreme Court. This record of having argued before the Supreme Court nine times is more than any practicing lawyer in Texas or any current member of Congress.
Running for the Senate was his first political campaign Before running and winning his Senate seat in 2012, he had never held an elective office before. His win was the biggest upset of the 2012 election.
Ted Cruz was a law clerk for a chief justice of the Supreme Court In 1996, Ted Cruz served as a law clerk to William Rehnquist.
He was also the first Hispanic to clerk for a Chief Justice of the United States Earned degrees from two Ivy League universities Cruz graduated Cum Laude from Princeton University with a B.A. in Public Policy.
His second degree is from Harvard Law School where he graduated Magna Cum Laude with a Juris Doctor degree.
Ted Cruz was born in Canada Cruz was born in Calgary, Canada, in 1970. His parents were working in the oil business in Canada. His father was born in Cuba and his mother was born in Delaware - and he is a U.S. citizen because his mother was born in the United States. He held dual citizenship in both the United States and Canada until he revoked his Canadian citizenship in 2014.
Cruz was a law professor Before becoming a senator, Ted Cruz was an adjunct law professor. From 2004 to 2009, Cruz taught U.S. Supreme Court Litigation at the University of Texas.
Won a debate national championship Cruz, along with his classmate David Panton, won the American Parliamentary Debate Association national championship while at Princeton.
Cruz was also named Speaker of the Year. So, we know about Ted Cruz's academic record?
Tell me again why Barack Obama's is sealed tighter then Ft Knox?
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I don't see any executive experience here....none. His experience is in the courts and politics. He's a great speaker, and an excellent debater. I like him where he is. I don't think he's as qualified as Walker. Here's the difference:
Cruz talks the talk.
Walker has walked the walk.
Obama also was good at talking the talk....let's keep that in mind. Many of us were irate because one big reason Obama was elected was purely because he could deliver a message from the podium. Cruz does the same thing......although I do like the message. He should keep doing that and leave the executive duties to someone with experience as an executive. It wouldn't break my heart if Cruz won the nomination, but he damm well better deliver if he's elected. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I think someone hit it on the head when they said he was a master debater. I think that would also apply to any attempt to run for president. |
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Location: Oregon | I watched him on TV. Did like a lot, some definitely not. Then researched him some. I am waiting to see who throws their hat in next. I don't think Cruz is it. While I agree with a lot some of what I heard makes me cringe just a bit. Plus he is a master debater... |
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Location: NW. Florida | RidenFly - 2015-03-24 10:16 AM Carbon Copy - 2015-03-25 7:49 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 7:58 AM IF rural America would actually go vote, they could out vote the liberal cities. It would take every single eligable voter to actually go vote though. That's not a true statement in the State of Florida. Our state was red until South Florida polls were in. It then became blue.
Yes Riden it is predominately Latino. |
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| Carbon Copy - 2015-03-26 6:27 AM RidenFly - 2015-03-24 10:16 AM Carbon Copy - 2015-03-25 7:49 AM ThreeCorners - 2015-03-24 7:58 AM IF rural America would actually go vote, they could out vote the liberal cities. It would take every single eligable voter to actually go vote though. That's not a true statement in the State of Florida. Our state was red until South Florida polls were in. It then became blue.
There's going to be many more jumping in that I'll probably get excited about. However, I do see this as an advantage for Cruz and an advantage for the GOP. I'm pretty sure you HAVE to turn Florida red to have any hope. |
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Location: Ky | As a yellow dog democrat I truly hope that the republicans nominate someone like Cruz or Rand Paul. Maybe either could have Palin as their running mate? That would be awesome!!
I doubt the republicans would really do such a thing but if they do, you know they don't want to win the white house. Hell, it's more fun to rail against than it is to govern anyway. |
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| It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
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| RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM
It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
who's we?
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Location: Ky | RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will. |
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| RidenFly - 2015-03-25 2:34 PM
It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I agree. I have a firm belief in the common sense, middle ground. There is one among the people that don't buy into one sided news providers, fear mongering, and chest pounding. Right now, the extremes are running the show and will help drive the United States to ruin. |
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Location: Kentucky | jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
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| BARRELHORSE USA - 2015-03-24 3:08 AM
It never ceases to amaze me how stupid white people vote year after year. Right now we have a muslim for president and thinking about voting in a crook from Arkansas and adding another family member from a well known One World Order clan!!
A Christian and/or a successful business man that believes in our constitution shows up to run for president and all we hear is a lot of dissing and pettiness coming from all directions!!
The more the progressive democrat communists, liberal news media and old established GOP party hacks diss someone .. the more Americans should like this person and call out the entire nation to vote for him!!
TIME MAGAZINE ACCIDENTLY TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT TED CRUZ AND WILL BE ON OBAMA'S REVENGE LIST ....
THANK YOU TIME MAGAZINE...
CRUZ IS WHAT AMERICANS HAVE BEEN PRAYING FOR!!
Be sure and read the entire article ... there is more text beyond the picture of Cruz >>
http://time.com/3753541/ted-cruz-texas-senator-gop/
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| jd&ez - 2015-03-25 2:10 PM
RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
That's what I'm talking about.
I have to respect someone that is so committed to the perpetuation of stupid that they dedicate their lives to it.
Here's to you Ms. Keeper of the Dumb.
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Location: Ky | Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
Because the democrat party is the party of the working men and women of this country. That is the foundation, the core. Now, do many get away from the foundation today? Yes, and they should be horse whipped for it.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
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Location: Ky | arion - 2015-03-25 3:04 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 2:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will. That's what I'm talking about. I have to respect someone that is so committed to the perpetuation of stupid that they dedicate their lives to it. Here's to you Ms. Keeper of the Dumb. The real men of genius salute you
Oh yeah, personal attacks. That's fine. You always know when someone is beaten, they resort to personal attacks. |
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| jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:09 PM
Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I was asked "why?"
Bahahahahaaha................typical democrat response.......the democratic party is the party for the working man............bahahahaaha....I'm dying over here......... |
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| arion - 2015-03-25 3:04 PM
jd&ez - 2015-03-25 2:10 PM
RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
That's what I'm talking about.
I have to respect someone that is so committed to the perpetuation of stupid that they dedicate their lives to it.
Here's to you Ms. Keeper of the Dumb.
The real men of genius salute you
How about you cut out the name calling. It's not needed or wanted. This thread is just getting interesting and statements like that will only get it killed. |
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| jbhoot - 2015-03-25 3:18 PM
arion - 2015-03-25 3:04 PM
jd&ez - 2015-03-25 2:10 PM
RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
That's what I'm talking about.
I have to respect someone that is so committed to the perpetuation of stupid that they dedicate their lives to it.
Here's to you Ms. Keeper of the Dumb.
The real men of genius salute you
How about you cut out the name calling. It's not needed or wanted. This thread is just getting interesting and statements like that will only get it killed.
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| jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:09 PM
Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I was asked "why?"
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Location: Texas | jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:09 PM Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I was asked "why?"
So the democratic party is perfect and the republican party is 100% flawed. Wow. This line of thinking is truly sad. I'm pretty disgusted by the republicans but about 5% more disgusted by the democrats. Both parties are so out of touch with the current needs of the country. Both (BOTH) pander to donors - how could they not - so much that the ethical line hardly even exists anymore.
As far as Ted Cruz goes, if I were a democrat, MAN would I be praying he wins the party nomination because he will never be elected in a general election. NEVER. Supporting him will be paving the way for Hillary. The GOP needs someone electable for goodness sakes and they are just the group that will never realize it. |
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| Last time I looked, I was a woman. My family a long line of working class. The thing is, we don't buy into lies and posturing that the goverment can do something for our genders and or station in life that we can't do for ourselves. Is my belief based in sand? Maybe but it's better than the belief that someone else can do my thinking for me. |
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| bocephus's mama - 2015-03-26 1:45 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:09 PM Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I was asked "why?"
As far as Ted Cruz goes, if I were a democrat, MAN would I be praying he wins the party nomination because he will never be elected in a general election. NEVER. Supporting him will be paving the way for Hillary. The GOP needs someone electable for goodness sakes and they are just the group that will never realize it.
No offense, Bo Ma, but that's the same ol thing you folks said last go around, that it had to be Mitt b/c he was electable. Again, where's the proof? He garnered less votes than McCain from his party. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:09 PM
Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I was asked "why?"
The Democrat party is not the party of the working man. That's a croc of Sh!t. The Democrat party is the party of the NON working man. The Democrat party is about power and socialism is their chief weapon and tool.
The Democrat party is about dividing this country any way it can.....race, religion, gender, class....you name it. The Democrat party is about malaise and misery and envy. The Democrat party is where racism got its roots in this country. The Democrat party does best when it can get government shackles around a group of people, such as blacks, or Native Americans. Democrats strategy is to capture large groups of voters this way. By offering government handouts and encouraging dependence they achieve their goal of enticing citizens to become addicted to dependence.....thus you have a group of monolithic lemmings who March in lock step. You very seldom see a Democrat harshly criticise another Democrat. They boast that they are the party to combat racism, yet racism is the exact tool they use to scare blacks, Latinos, and Native Americans. They proclaim that minorities should have lowered standards, under the guise of "fairness" and"opportunity". They use this soft bigotry of lowered expectations. The fact of the matter is the Democrat party needs racism to survive. Without being able to cry out "racism" they become irrelevant. That is the deciding edge for Democrats.
The Democrats were the segregationists in the 50s and 60s. Lyndon Johnson turned that around with his brilliant civil rights bill and "War on poverty". LBJ saved the Democrat party from itself. It was all a ruse. It was the Republicans who are largely responsible for the Civil Rights Act of 1965. Democrats boast of diversity and having a big tent, when, in fact, if you do not walk in lock step behind their talkiing points and platform, you are not welcome. In order to be a Democrat, you must be liberal. There is no such thing as a conservative Democrat on the national scene.
Democrats have seen the slow demise of the labor unions, mainly because of politics, thuggery, and corruption. They have to make up for this, as well as the gradual emergence of bold, conservative, African Americans. The War on Women and illegal immigration is their latest front.
Now, as to Republicans? I have plenty of criticism, but I'll hold off for now, since I've already gone on too long. |
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Location: Florida.. | Bear - 2015-03-25 10:24 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:09 PM Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I was asked "why?" The Democrat party is not the party of the working man. That's a croc of Sh!t. The Democrat party is the party of the NON working man. The Democrat party is about power and socialism is their chief weapon and tool. The Democrat party is about dividing this country any way it can.....race, religion, gender, class....you name it. The Democrat party is about malaise and misery and envy. The Democrat party is where racism got its roots in this country. The Democrat party does best when it can get government shackles around a group of people, such as blacks, or Native Americans. Democrats strategy is to capture large groups of voters this way. By offering government handouts and encouraging dependence they achieve their goal of enticing citizens to become addicted to dependence.....thus you have a group of monolithic lemmings who March in lock step. You very seldom see a Democrat harshly criticise another Democrat. They boast that they are the party to combat racism, yet racism is the exact tool they use to scare blacks, Latinos, and Native Americans. They proclaim that minorities should have lowered standards, under the guise of "fairness" and"opportunity". They use this soft bigotry of lowered expectations. The fact of the matter is the Democrat party needs racism to survive. Without being able to cry out "racism" they become irrelevant. That is the deciding edge for Democrats. The Democrats were the segregationists in the 50s and 60s. Lyndon Johnson turned that around with his brilliant civil rights bill and "War on poverty". LBJ saved the Democrat party from itself. It was all a ruse. It was the Republicans who are largely responsible for the Civil Rights Act of 1965. Democrats boast of diversity and having a big tent, when, in fact, if you do not walk in lock step behind their talkiing points and platform, you are not welcome. In order to be a Democrat, you must be liberal. There is no such thing as a conservative Democrat on the national scene. Democrats have seen the slow demise of the labor unions, mainly because of politics, thuggery, and corruption. They have to make up for this, as well as the gradual emergence of bold, conservative, African Americans. The War on Women and illegal immigration is their latest front. Now, as to Republicans? I have plenty of criticism, but I'll hold off for now, since I've already gone on too long.
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | For the first time in my life I see people actually talking about & arguing the Constitution!!! THAT makes me excited & gives me hope. Even when they don't get it quite right...at least they're considering it again.
The democrats are not the 'foundation' of this country any more than the republicans are. Our foundation is that very simple, nonchanging document...the one our elected officials & employees from leo's on up, take an oath to...an unchanging document.
We fought the Revolutionary War to free us from the bondage of a Monarchy...NOT to create another one! We have forgotten why our ancestors came here...we've fallen victim to politics (lies & deceit).
I wish with all my heart that we had someone who would lead us to greatness once again...someone who could help us see that our Nation isn't about "what's in it for me?", but, rather, "what can we do to be that country that all others want to emulate? Because we're free to make all the wrong choices & choose not to because our laws make us responsible for our own actions...with grace". (Not what we 'might' do).
I've yet to see anyone without an agenda. Be it pretending goodness or shoving rightness down our throats...d's & r's. No difference.
I keep saying and won't stop...States Rights are the only means to move beyond the federal chokehold that is killing this country in every way.
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | Bibliafarm - 2015-03-25 8:31 PM Bear - 2015-03-25 10:24 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:09 PM Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I was asked "why?" The Democrat party is not the party of the working man. That's a croc of Sh!t. The Democrat party is the party of the NON working man. The Democrat party is about power and socialism is their chief weapon and tool. The Democrat party is about dividing this country any way it can.....race, religion, gender, class....you name it. The Democrat party is about malaise and misery and envy. The Democrat party is where racism got its roots in this country. The Democrat party does best when it can get government shackles around a group of people, such as blacks, or Native Americans. Democrats strategy is to capture large groups of voters this way. By offering government handouts and encouraging dependence they achieve their goal of enticing citizens to become addicted to dependence.....thus you have a group of monolithic lemmings who March in lock step. You very seldom see a Democrat harshly criticise another Democrat. They boast that they are the party to combat racism, yet racism is the exact tool they use to scare blacks, Latinos, and Native Americans. They proclaim that minorities should have lowered standards, under the guise of "fairness" and"opportunity". They use this soft bigotry of lowered expectations. The fact of the matter is the Democrat party needs racism to survive. Without being able to cry out "racism" they become irrelevant. That is the deciding edge for Democrats. The Democrats were the segregationists in the 50s and 60s. Lyndon Johnson turned that around with his brilliant civil rights bill and "War on poverty". LBJ saved the Democrat party from itself. It was all a ruse. It was the Republicans who are largely responsible for the Civil Rights Act of 1965. Democrats boast of diversity and having a big tent, when, in fact, if you do not walk in lock step behind their talkiing points and platform, you are not welcome. In order to be a Democrat, you must be liberal. There is no such thing as a conservative Democrat on the national scene. Democrats have seen the slow demise of the labor unions, mainly because of politics, thuggery, and corruption. They have to make up for this, as well as the gradual emergence of bold, conservative, African Americans. The War on Women and illegal immigration is their latest front. Now, as to Republicans? I have plenty of criticism, but I'll hold off for now, since I've already gone on too long.
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Location: PNW | Bear - 2015-03-25 7:24 PM
jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:09 PM
Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I was asked "why?"
The Democrat party is not the party of the working man. That's a croc of Sh!t. The Democrat party is the party of the NON working man. The Democrat party is about power and socialism is their chief weapon and tool.
The Democrat party is about dividing this country any way it can.....race, religion, gender, class....you name it. The Democrat party is about malaise and misery and envy. The Democrat party is where racism got its roots in this country. The Democrat party does best when it can get government shackles around a group of people, such as blacks, or Native Americans. Democrats strategy is to capture large groups of voters this way. By offering government handouts and encouraging dependence they achieve their goal of enticing citizens to become addicted to dependence.....thus you have a group of monolithic lemmings who March in lock step. You very seldom see a Democrat harshly criticise another Democrat. They boast that they are the party to combat racism, yet racism is the exact tool they use to scare blacks, Latinos, and Native Americans. They proclaim that minorities should have lowered standards, under the guise of "fairness" and"opportunity". They use this soft bigotry of lowered expectations. The fact of the matter is the Democrat party needs racism to survive. Without being able to cry out "racism" they become irrelevant. That is the deciding edge for Democrats.
The Democrats were the segregationists in the 50s and 60s. Lyndon Johnson turned that around with his brilliant civil rights bill and "War on poverty". LBJ saved the Democrat party from itself. It was all a ruse. It was the Republicans who are largely responsible for the Civil Rights Act of 1965. Democrats boast of diversity and having a big tent, when, in fact, if you do not walk in lock step behind their talkiing points and platform, you are not welcome. In order to be a Democrat, you must be liberal. There is no such thing as a conservative Democrat on the national scene.
Democrats have seen the slow demise of the labor unions, mainly because of politics, thuggery, and corruption. They have to make up for this, as well as the gradual emergence of bold, conservative, African Americans. The War on Women and illegal immigration is their latest front.
Now, as to Republicans? I have plenty of criticism, but I'll hold off for now, since I've already gone on too long.
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Location: las vegas nv | Ted Cruz is a super candidate ,he is articulate ,loves our nation and its people,he has never wavered in his beliefs . He will stand for the working class of people in America and has the ability to handle the media without getting flustered and handles himself impecably . He is being attacked by the left and right because they fear he will stop the flow of corrupt money to every hand thats out . That means both sides .The polititians that are simply making decisions based on how much it will line their pockets have had their day and CHANGE , it is a comin!!!the corruption is rampant and the brakes will be applied ,so the polititians and the paid off media will be spitting fire so that they dont lose their cash cows. We need Ted Cruz to stand strong and make the decisions that will balance the budget ,protect our troops ,and put our constitution back into effect in America ,it has been TRAMPLED by the lawlessness going on,Cruz is the man to do the job,anyone that votes democrat or republican needs to really evaluate why they are doing that ,if it is because you believe in a strong America then you need to re evaluate who you should baclk this time ,Please dont listen to the "talking points" if you hear the exact same thing coming from every channel it is a talking point that has been written to distribute and convince the uninformed public to see things their way ,do your home work or dont vote !
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Location: Florida.. | I just know that it seems the younger generation is all about Obama and croonies.. democrats.. and debating and argeuing you cant win for they deny deny and talk in circles.. so someone needs to be able to convince that generation they will be a good choice...........good luck with that. eyes wide shut.smh |
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Location: Florida | Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin!
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| Vickie - 2015-03-26 5:02 AM
Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin!
Oh goody let the games begin!!!!!!!! |
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Location: Texas | RidenFly - 2015-03-25 4:14 PM bocephus's mama - 2015-03-26 1:45 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:09 PM Murphy - 2015-03-25 2:14 PM jd&ez - 2015-03-25 3:10 PM RidenFly - 2015-03-25 1:34 PM It looks like we are all going to go down our ol' familiar roads with our same rhetoric, same opinions same inability to discuss without reasoning. If for just once we'd shed those stupid letters R and D before our names, I bet we'd get a lot more accomplished. Truly sad and amazing that some people and issues can't be held by their merits instead of what some late night comedy show spoon fed the public.
I will never shed the D. I'm a yellow dog and proud of it. I've voted in every election since I was 18 years old and eligible. Doesn't matter if it's an uncontested primary. If the polls are open at my precinct then I'm there to vote. Always voted democrat except in non partision races and always will.
The republican party has no basic foundation, no core, no soul. They are simply profiteers with a moving center. Whatever fits the bill today is where they will hang their hat.
That's the major reason they republicans can't govern. They can run a campaign because it's easy to rail against everything. Once they win they have to stand for something and they can't because they have a sand foundation.
Before anyone gets bent out of shape, I was asked "why?"
As far as Ted Cruz goes, if I were a democrat, MAN would I be praying he wins the party nomination because he will never be elected in a general election. NEVER. Supporting him will be paving the way for Hillary. The GOP needs someone electable for goodness sakes and they are just the group that will never realize it.
You can dig up those old threads - I was never team Romney but when he won the nomination, I voted for him. It's not that I didn't like him but 1. He was ridiculously rich and I knew he would be painted as someone completely out of touch with "normal" America and 2. He flipped too much. Getting more votes than McCain was probably due more to people realizing the first 4 years of Obama was a mistake more than loving Romney.
As I said 4 years ago, the dems have become amazing at playing the game and if the republicans don't start playing better, they're toast. It is a "stoop to their level" type of thing but at the end of the day, the voting public has created the game.
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Location: Texas | kelly griffith - 2015-03-25 10:43 PM Ted Cruz is a super candidate ,he is articulate ,loves our nation and its people,he has never wavered in his beliefs . He will stand for the working class of people in America and has the ability to handle the media without getting flustered and handles himself impecably . He is being attacked by the left and right because they fear he will stop the flow of corrupt money to every hand thats out . That means both sides .The polititians that are simply making decisions based on how much it will line their pockets have had their day and CHANGE , it is a comin!!!the corruption is rampant and the brakes will be applied ,so the polititians and the paid off media will be spitting fire so that they dont lose their cash cows. We need Ted Cruz to stand strong and make the decisions that will balance the budget ,protect our troops ,and put our constitution back into effect in America ,it has been TRAMPLED by the lawlessness going on,Cruz is the man to do the job,anyone that votes democrat or republican needs to really evaluate why they are doing that ,if it is because you believe in a strong America then you need to re evaluate who you should baclk this time ,Please dont listen to the "talking points" if you hear the exact same thing coming from every channel it is a talking point that has been written to distribute and convince the uninformed public to see things their way ,do your home work or dont vote !
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Vickie - 2015-03-26 5:02 AM
Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin!
Why are you a liberal, Vickie? |
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| Bear - 2015-03-27 6:36 AM Vickie - 2015-03-26 5:02 AM Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin!
Why are you a liberal, Vickie?
Respectfully, I think it's a waste of time and frankly, a set up to ask her that question. I doubt anything anyone reads on a forum board is going to change their basic political beliefs. I'd love it if we could keep the dialogue about the candidates and what they bring to the table and how they are handled by the media.
Foundation Horse posted a big eye opening article on FB about how the NY times handled Cruz's announcement Vs Obama's. The blatant disreggard for any Conservative candidate is criminal. How are we ever going to get this guy's message loud and clear if the air is full of static? It's horrible. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | RidenFly - 2015-03-26 7:42 AM Bear - 2015-03-27 6:36 AM Vickie - 2015-03-26 5:02 AM Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin!
Why are you a liberal, Vickie?
Foundation Horse posted a big eye opening article on FB about how the NY times handled Cruz's announcement Vs Obama's. The blatant disreggard for any Conservative candidate is criminal. How are we ever going to get this guy's message loud and clear if the air is full of static? It's horrible.
Social media, forums...what a great opportunity for dialogue! 'Our' debate! Sure we bring in the 'talking points' of our elected and wishful politicians, but, we have the chance to educate each other about what goes on in our part of the world...answer the 'why's' and the 'what ifs'.
The hardest thing to do is lay aside what we were taught by the people we cherish the most...our families. Our grandfathers...the stories of their survivals & struggles. It's very hard to admit they may have made bad decisions or swallowed lies...one of the reasons people cannot 'go beyond' and dig deep for truth.
As a nation of people with everything to lose...we've got to get past it. How else will we do it? We won't learn it in school...where history has been changed, mostly changed to 'lift up' the downtrodden...without recognizing that ALL our ancestors were the downtrodden, those with nothing, why else did they come here? And this goes back to the Native Americans who came here as the 'walking dead'.
Here we are. With an amazing opportunity to teach, to learn...to demand our representatives tow the line & protect our borders & our rights within. Nothing more, nothing less.
Their job is simple...ours is tough.
At least that's how it should be.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2015-03-26 8:42 AM
Bear - 2015-03-27 6:36 AM Vickie - 2015-03-26 5:02 AM Just to let everyone know, this liberal is not going to say a thing... until the primaries are over, then let the games begin!
Why are you a liberal, Vickie?
Foundation Horse posted a big eye opening article on FB about how the NY times handled Cruz's announcement Vs Obama's. The blatant disreggard for any Conservative candidate is criminal. How are we ever going to get this guy's message loud and clear if the air is full of static? It's horrible.
There's a reason for asking that question. First, the very nature of the thread itself is basically a debate. There's nothing wrong with debates. In fact, we don't have enough open, honest, spirited debates.
Riden, I don't see anything wrong with asking Vickie this question. If someone asked me why I am a conservative, i wouldn't hesitate to answer. Usually, it's extremely instructive to learn why someone is a liberal. The vast majority won't answer that basic question. Some simply can't. |
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| Because you just wrote an essay to JD&Ed which 99 percent of us agree with you on. We've known Vickie and her beliefs for how many years now? You're not going to change her mind, nor are you going to deepen your understanding of her opinion. It's only going to create bigger walls that will block us from figuring out the mess we are in as voters. Again, just my opinion. Maybe Vicke will come on here happy as a clam to fill you in on something, I think you already know.
There is one question I would love our Dem friends to answer; If Hillary does not jump in, then who would you like to see? Do you folks even support Hillary? I'd really like to know this because it's pretty much been proven that she lied several times under oath. I personally, wouldn't be able to trust her to watch my dog. |
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Location: Florida.. | I would like to know why so many support and think its ok for their party (democrats) to lie and do some of the things they do and yet its ok? why would you vote for someone that did what Hillary did?? in all honesty id like a answer..because in my opinion someone that supports that behavior is no better... |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2015-03-26 9:23 AM
Because you just wrote an essay to JD&Ed which 99 percent of us agree with you on. We've known Vickie and her beliefs for how many years now? You're not going to change her mind, nor are you going to deepen your understanding of her opinion. It's only going to create bigger walls that will block us from figuring out the mess we are in as voters. Again, just my opinion. Maybe Vicke will come on here happy as a clam to fill you in on something, I think you already know.
There is one question I would love our Dem friends to answer; If Hillary does not jump in, then who would you like to see? Do you folks even support Hillary? I'd really like to know this because it's pretty much been proven that she lied several times under oath. I personally, wouldn't be able to trust her to watch my dog.
That's a popular position to take, Kelly, but I don't think it is out of bounds to ask such a question. I'm not sure why she's a liberal. Are you? If you are sitting amongst a bunch of liberals or on a public forum full of liberals, how would you handle the question: "Why are you a conservative?" Would you run away or clam up out of fear of taking a few shots or getting into a debate?
Some people are Democrats because their family has always been Democrat. In those instances, occasionally, when you ask the question, they scratch their heads and think, and then they begin to realize they are not liberal. I use Liberal and Democrat interchangeably here for obvious reason. Some people feel being liberal is to champion the cause of the less fortunate and down trodden, which, I'm sure you'll agree is a fallacy. Some people openly and proudly espouse socialism. Some people claim to be liberal because they like the way it sounds. Liberals are like that. That's why they started using the word, "progressive", because, after all, who doesn't like progress?
I love it when someone asks me why I am a conservative or why I have some libertarian leanings. Liberals often hate being asked this question....because it is very hard to answer, and they have to wrestle with conflicting logic in their own minds. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | Why I'm a conservative. Wait! AM I a conservative?
The very word brings up images of people who don't support 'progress'. I support progress. I love technology! I'm so very happy that I'm not a member of one of those 'lost tribes' that still live in the dark ages!!! lol...
Yet...the 'progressives' have stolen that word like it belongs solely to them! Liberal...I'm quite liberal about a few issues. It's funny...when it comes to say, abortion...cons seem to think we should go back to pre-birth control & libs seem to think abortion can be used as a means of birth control...neither 'side' is 'right'. We must 'progress' beyond both methods of thinking. This is done from the heart...that's 'progress'.
Same sex marriage. The constitution gives the decision of marriage to the states. So...marriage was originally a religious thing, it's now a 'government' thing. The taxes, insurance, inheritance, social security...etc. There's not much left that insinuates religion. I support same sex marriage. Progress? Liberal? Or simply compassionate. I don't know or care...it's not my call. I support laws that not only 'allow' humans to have choices but demands it.
Figure it out. That's what we're here for.
Enjoy the ride...grow. Love.
Progress!!! It doesn't happen without growing pains.
I'm a Constitutionalist. A most brilliant document that protects our natural rights to defend ourselves & make our own way...as long as we're not trampling the rights of any other.
Perfect! Progressive!
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Location: Feeding mosquitos, FL | musikmaker - 2015-03-26 10:46 AM Why I'm a conservative. Wait! AM I a conservative?
The very word brings up images of people who don't support 'progress'. I support progress. I love technology! I'm so very happy that I'm not a member of one of those 'lost tribes' that still live in the dark ages!!! lol...
Yet...the 'progressives' have stolen that word like it belongs solely to them! Liberal...I'm quite liberal about a few issues. It's funny...when it comes to say, abortion...cons seem to think we should go back to pre-birth control & libs seem to think abortion can be used as a means of birth control...neither 'side' is 'right'. We must 'progress' beyond both methods of thinking. This is done from the heart...that's 'progress'.
Same sex marriage. The constitution gives the decision of marriage to the states. So...marriage was originally a religious thing, it's now a 'government' thing. The taxes, insurance, inheritance, social security...etc. There's not much left that insinuates religion. I support same sex marriage. Progress? Liberal? Or simply compassionate. I don't know or care...it's not my call. I support laws that not only 'allow' humans to have choices but demands it.
Figure it out. That's what we're here for.
Enjoy the ride...grow. Love.
Progress!!! It doesn't happen without growing pains.
I'm a Constitutionalist. A most brilliant document that protects our natural rights to defend ourselves & make our own way...as long as we're not trampling the rights of any other.
Perfect! Progressive!
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Location: Texas | musikmaker - 2015-03-26 9:46 AM Why I'm a conservative. Wait! AM I a conservative?
The very word brings up images of people who don't support 'progress'. I support progress. I love technology! I'm so very happy that I'm not a member of one of those 'lost tribes' that still live in the dark ages!!! lol...
Yet...the 'progressives' have stolen that word like it belongs solely to them! Liberal...I'm quite liberal about a few issues. It's funny...when it comes to say, abortion...cons seem to think we should go back to pre-birth control & libs seem to think abortion can be used as a means of birth control...neither 'side' is 'right'. We must 'progress' beyond both methods of thinking. This is done from the heart...that's 'progress'.
Same sex marriage. The constitution gives the decision of marriage to the states. So...marriage was originally a religious thing, it's now a 'government' thing. The taxes, insurance, inheritance, social security...etc. There's not much left that insinuates religion. I support same sex marriage. Progress? Liberal? Or simply compassionate. I don't know or care...it's not my call. I support laws that not only 'allow' humans to have choices but demands it.
Figure it out. That's what we're here for.
Enjoy the ride...grow. Love.
Progress!!! It doesn't happen without growing pains.
I'm a Constitutionalist. A most brilliant document that protects our natural rights to defend ourselves & make our own way...as long as we're not trampling the rights of any other.
Perfect! Progressive!
Where does it do this? |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | This is the scariest thing I have ever read & I'm shaken to my core. I'm posting it here because it has everything to do with what we face as a nation & a world. I've long denied a 'conspiracy', I can no longer be ignorant and blind just because it's comfortable. I first became open to the possibilities when I read the 'Creature From Jekyll Island'...this is beyond even that...the Fianl Curtain if you will.
http://www.newswithviews.com/brownfield/brownfield59.htm
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| bocephus's mama - 2015-03-26 11:11 AM musikmaker - 2015-03-26 9:46 AM Why I'm a conservative. Wait! AM I a conservative?
The very word brings up images of people who don't support 'progress'. I support progress. I love technology! I'm so very happy that I'm not a member of one of those 'lost tribes' that still live in the dark ages!!! lol...
Yet...the 'progressives' have stolen that word like it belongs solely to them! Liberal...I'm quite liberal about a few issues. It's funny...when it comes to say, abortion...cons seem to think we should go back to pre-birth control & libs seem to think abortion can be used as a means of birth control...neither 'side' is 'right'. We must 'progress' beyond both methods of thinking. This is done from the heart...that's 'progress'.
Same sex marriage. The constitution gives the decision of marriage to the states. So...marriage was originally a religious thing, it's now a 'government' thing. The taxes, insurance, inheritance, social security...etc. There's not much left that insinuates religion. I support same sex marriage. Progress? Liberal? Or simply compassionate. I don't know or care...it's not my call. I support laws that not only 'allow' humans to have choices but demands it.
Figure it out. That's what we're here for.
Enjoy the ride...grow. Love.
Progress!!! It doesn't happen without growing pains.
I'm a Constitutionalist. A most brilliant document that protects our natural rights to defend ourselves & make our own way...as long as we're not trampling the rights of any other.
Perfect! Progressive!
Where does it do this?
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | bocephus's mama - 2015-03-26 10:11 AM musikmaker - 2015-03-26 9:46 AM Why I'm a conservative. Wait! AM I a conservative?
The very word brings up images of people who don't support 'progress'. I support progress. I love technology! I'm so very happy that I'm not a member of one of those 'lost tribes' that still live in the dark ages!!! lol...
Yet...the 'progressives' have stolen that word like it belongs solely to them! Liberal...I'm quite liberal about a few issues. It's funny...when it comes to say, abortion...cons seem to think we should go back to pre-birth control & libs seem to think abortion can be used as a means of birth control...neither 'side' is 'right'. We must 'progress' beyond both methods of thinking. This is done from the heart...that's 'progress'.
Same sex marriage. The constitution gives the decision of marriage to the states. So...marriage was originally a religious thing, it's now a 'government' thing. The taxes, insurance, inheritance, social security...etc. There's not much left that insinuates religion. I support same sex marriage. Progress? Liberal? Or simply compassionate. I don't know or care...it's not my call. I support laws that not only 'allow' humans to have choices but demands it.
Figure it out. That's what we're here for.
Enjoy the ride...grow. Love.
Progress!!! It doesn't happen without growing pains.
I'm a Constitutionalist. A most brilliant document that protects our natural rights to defend ourselves & make our own way...as long as we're not trampling the rights of any other.
Perfect! Progressive!
Where does it do this?
Sorry...I'm multi tasking & really suck at it.
The Bill of Rights, 9th & 10th Amendments, cover rights not expressively protected or enumerated. You're correct in correcting me! Marriage is not mentioned at all.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
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Location: PNW | musikmaker - 2015-03-26 9:14 AM
This is the scariest thing I have ever read & I'm shaken to my core. I'm posting it here because it has everything to do with what we face as a nation & a world. I've long denied a 'conspiracy', I can no longer be ignorant and blind just because it's comfortable. I first became open to the possibilities when I read the 'Creature From Jekyll Island'...this is beyond even that...the Fianl Curtain if you will.
http://www.newswithviews.com/brownfield/brownfield59.htm
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| Most people who claim to be democrats, or liberals, really aren't. I have found that today's society seems to think if you believe in gay marriage and abortion, you are liberal, if you don't, your conservative. That just couldn't be further from the truth. Many, many issues are based on a personal belief and its just as personal and individualized as what you like for dinner. When you get down to the foundation of what these "titles" mean......I know very few people who would actually fit the title. If they did, they would be the biggest hypocrits on the planet. MOST people believe in hard work and taking care of those that can't. Period. These matters of the heart are real for both sides however A lot people that claim to be "liberals" work hard, have nice homes, make decent money, pay taxes,. ......they provide for their families.......and sometimes I wonder if the title "liberal" just makes them feel better inside or because its "popular". But what part of being liberal is it that they support? What part of the American dream do they not support? Do liberals really feel the government can take care of their families and make decisions for their families better than they can? Do they really want the government involved in our lives so much that they control what we do? Or do they just brag about being a liberal because they can't stand someone who makes more money than them? What is it? Explain equality to me. Do you want to push equality in the true sense of the word for everyone, or only when it "fits"....like for gay marriage? Do you believe, as a liberal, that if you have worked at your job for 20 years, have advanced and taken on more responsibility that the guy they just hired yesterday should make as much as you? If not, why not? Isn't that equality? If not, then doesn't that create different social classes? Shouldn't it? Do you believe that social class is necessary in a free society? And what about these "big corporations" that everyone complains about? Did someone take a risk and start a business and become successful at one time and now employs hundreds of Americans? As a liberal, who do you work for? What would you do if you didn't have that "big Corporation" to work for? Would you settle for a much smaller home? An older car? Sitting at home with nothing to do while the government takes care of you? I could go on for days......but these are questions that need to be asked. At the end of the day....can you truly call yourself a liberal? |
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| banjomia - 2015-03-26 12:16 PM
Most people who claim to be democrats, or liberals, really aren't. I have found that today's society seems to think if you believe in gay marriage and abortion, you are liberal, if you don't, your conservative. That just couldn't be further from the truth. Many, many issues are based on a personal belief and its just as personal and individualized as what you like for dinner. When you get down to the foundation of what these "titles" mean......I know very few people who would actually fit the title. If they did, they would be the biggest hypocrits on the planet. MOST people believe in hard work and taking care of those that can't. Period. These matters of the heart are real for both sides however A lot people that claim to be "liberals" work hard, have nice homes, make decent money, pay taxes,. ......they provide for their families.......and sometimes I wonder if the title "liberal" just makes them feel better inside or because its "popular". But what part of being liberal is it that they support? What part of the American dream do they not support? Do liberals really feel the government can take care of their families and make decisions for their families better than they can? Do they really want the government involved in our lives so much that they control what we do? Or do they just brag about being a liberal because they can't stand someone who makes more money than them? What is it? Explain equality to me. Do you want to push equality in the true sense of the word for everyone, or only when it "fits"....like for gay marriage? Do you believe, as a liberal, that if you have worked at your job for 20 years, have advanced and taken on more responsibility that the guy they just hired yesterday should make as much as you? If not, why not? Isn't that equality? If not, then doesn't that create different social classes? Shouldn't it? Do you believe that social class is necessary in a free society? And what about these "big corporations" that everyone complains about? Did someone take a risk and start a business and become successful at one time and now employs hundreds of Americans? As a liberal, who do you work for? What would you do if you didn't have that "big Corporation" to work for? Would you settle for a much smaller home? An older car? Sitting at home with nothing to do while the government takes care of you? I could go on for days......but these are questions that need to be asked. At the end of the day....can you truly call yourself a liberal?
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| Don't liberals teach their kids the value of an education? The value of hardwork? Do they want their kids to go to college? If so, why? Is it because you want your kids to succeed and live the dream? Its gotta be. Otherwise, why would you do it? So your kid can go to college and be a Doctor and get paid as much as someone who works for Mcdonalds? None of it makes sense. The bottom line is...MOST of us believe in the same things...yet we have been separated by political parties and then of course add race into the picture for even further division. If your a conservative and white, then your a racist. Really? Does anyone, including all you liberals not see what is at work here? The dumbing down of America. Divide and conquer. We are falling for it, hook, line and sinker. If you truly cared about your kids and your grand kids futures, you would take a good, long look at the foundation of your beliefs.....what defines you and who you are. We need to all look WAY beyond what we believe to be a standard title and try to vote in the people that stand for what we believe in. Independent thinkers is what we need. |
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| GLP - 2015-03-26 12:25 PM banjomia - 2015-03-26 12:16 PM Most people who claim to be democrats, or liberals, really aren't. I have found that today's society seems to think if you believe in gay marriage and abortion, you are liberal, if you don't, your conservative. That just couldn't be further from the truth. Many, many issues are based on a personal belief and its just as personal and individualized as what you like for dinner. When you get down to the foundation of what these "titles" mean......I know very few people who would actually fit the title. If they did, they would be the biggest hypocrits on the planet. MOST people believe in hard work and taking care of those that can't. Period. These matters of the heart are real for both sides however A lot people that claim to be "liberals" work hard, have nice homes, make decent money, pay taxes,. ......they provide for their families.......and sometimes I wonder if the title "liberal" just makes them feel better inside or because its "popular". But what part of being liberal is it that they support? What part of the American dream do they not support? Do liberals really feel the government can take care of their families and make decisions for their families better than they can? Do they really want the government involved in our lives so much that they control what we do? Or do they just brag about being a liberal because they can't stand someone who makes more money than them? What is it? Explain equality to me. Do you want to push equality in the true sense of the word for everyone, or only when it "fits"....like for gay marriage? Do you believe, as a liberal, that if you have worked at your job for 20 years, have advanced and taken on more responsibility that the guy they just hired yesterday should make as much as you? If not, why not? Isn't that equality? If not, then doesn't that create different social classes? Shouldn't it? Do you believe that social class is necessary in a free society? And what about these "big corporations" that everyone complains about? Did someone take a risk and start a business and become successful at one time and now employs hundreds of Americans? As a liberal, who do you work for? What would you do if you didn't have that "big Corporation" to work for? Would you settle for a much smaller home? An older car? Sitting at home with nothing to do while the government takes care of you? I could go on for days......but these are questions that need to be asked. At the end of the day....can you truly call yourself a liberal? Wow! Best post yet!
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Location: Gainesville, TX | What's really funny is the extreme left and extreme right look the same, lots of government. The extreme left is socialism, that would be NAZIs, and the extreme right is Fascism, like Mussolini in Italy. I think Communist countries with their strong dictators look a lot like both.
Everyone will go on and on about various founding fathers and what they want. Alexander Hamilton certainly wanted a strong federal government. And without government (I don't care about political parties) you would not likely have had something like the Civil Rights Movement which was necessary. Sometimes when we stick our hands in our pockets and say "I don't wanna" like kids we need to have our butts busted and be forced to do something. That is why Thomas Jefferson thought government was a necessary evil. But the more government we have the more evil we have too. It must be balanced. We need enough to keep us functioning and keep us honest, but not enough to trip us up. Unfortunately once you are on top you want to stay and will violate ethical principles to do so. With politics comes power; with power comes corruption. It's all enough to make you want to go light your head on fire.
Watch the documentary Zeitgeist. It's interesting.
All that being said, I'm not a huge fan of our current system and probably as close to a Libertarian as they come. I'm all for gay marriage because I don't think the government has a right to legislate that anyway. And my husband took a conlaw class. The statement in the Constitution about the federal government's right to regulate all interstate trade and exchanges is scary. It can allow them to do almost anything based on interpretation. Not even those guys had everything right.
So I'll continue to be an independent . . .
Politics is a compound word. Poli meaning many and ticks meaning bloodsuckers.
I like that Ted Cruz stuck up for what he believes in. good president? I'm not so sure about that.
Okay so that was a really disorganized, political wondering. Look at the Clare Graves' Value System. I'm at level six, heading to seven. I feel like I have to listen to everything until I can make up my mind on the best plan.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | musikmaker - 2015-03-26 11:14 AM This is the scariest thing I have ever read & I'm shaken to my core. I'm posting it here because it has everything to do with what we face as a nation & a world. I've long denied a 'conspiracy', I can no longer be ignorant and blind just because it's comfortable. I first became open to the possibilities when I read the 'Creature From Jekyll Island'...this is beyond even that...the Fianl Curtain if you will.
http://www.newswithviews.com/brownfield/brownfield59.htm
And the land grab continues and the government makes it so no one can enter all in BS of protecting the envirnonment. I would say they wouldn't have to get anyone off the land they are about to give to someone else. JMO |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Itsme - 2015-03-22 1:44 PM
The only one that will get me off the couch is Rand and he is a little to mainstream for me.
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Location: Florida.. | with the way things are going and obama allowing our country to be torndown from inside out it isnt going to matter if your a liberal or a conservative..we wont be in charge anymore. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Bibliafarm - 2015-03-26 9:44 PM
with the way things are going and obama allowing our country to be torndown from inside out it isnt going to matter if your a liberal or a conservative..we wont be in charge anymore.
You betcha!! Once it's a law that you HAVE to vote.. and they start arresting blacks and Latinos for not voting.. It will be the final race war for this country. |
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Location: Florida.. | komet. - 2015-03-26 10:52 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-03-26 9:44 PM with the way things are going and obama allowing our country to be torndown from inside out it isnt going to matter if your a liberal or a conservative..we wont be in charge anymore. You betcha!! Once it's a law that you HAVE to vote.. and they start arresting blacks and Latinos for not voting.. It will be the final race war for this country.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Bibliafarm - 2015-03-26 10:05 PM
komet. - 2015-03-26 10:52 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-03-26 9:44 PM with the way things are going and obama allowing our country to be torndown from inside out it isnt going to matter if your a liberal or a conservative..we wont be in charge anymore. You betcha!! Once it's a law that you HAVE to vote.. and they start arresting blacks and Latinos for not voting.. It will be the final race war for this country.
Oh you ain't heard?? Obama says we need a law that requires everyone to vote in all elections. Imagine what will happen when they start arresting folks for not doing so. |
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Location: Kentucky | komet. - 2015-03-26 11:14 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-03-26 10:05 PM komet. - 2015-03-26 10:52 PM Bibliafarm - 2015-03-26 9:44 PM with the way things are going and obama allowing our country to be torndown from inside out it isnt going to matter if your a liberal or a conservative..we wont be in charge anymore. You betcha!! Once it's a law that you HAVE to vote.. and they start arresting blacks and Latinos for not voting.. It will be the final race war for this country. Oh you ain't heard?? Obama says we need a law that requires everyone to vote in all elections. Imagine what will happen when they start arresting folks for not doing so.
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| If it's true, and who the heck knows these days, forced voting would fall into the favor of the Dems since most minorities don't bother to vote. Gee, I wonder why Obama thinks this is a good idea? It this type of reasoning, the ID issues that half this country can't understand the logic of the Democratic party.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2015-03-27 8:04 AM
If it's true, and who the heck knows these days, forced voting would fall into the favor of the Dems since most minorities don't bother to vote. Gee, I wonder why Obama thinks this is a good idea? It this type of reasoning, the ID issues that half this country can't understand the logic of the Democratic party.
Its begining to look a lot like communism.....everywhere you go.....
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Location: PNW | RidenFly - 2015-03-27 6:04 AM
If it's true, and who the heck knows these days, forced voting would fall into the favor of the Dems since most minorities don't bother to vote. Gee, I wonder why Obama thinks this is a good idea? It this type of reasoning, the ID issues that half this country can't understand the logic of the Democratic party.
Its begining to look a lot like communism.....everywhere you go.....
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