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Current WPRA Standings, Nancy Hunter sitting #1
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2015 WPRA World - Pro Rodeo Standings
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1Nancy HunterNeola, UT$55,900.001
2Sarah Rose McDonaldBrunswick, GA$53,374.459
3Lisa LockhartOelrichs, SD$44,211.2213
4Alexa LakeRichmond, TX$38,873.1315
5Callie DuperierBoerne, TX$37,664.5121
6Fallon TaylorCollinsville, TX$36,256.4616
7Sherry CerviMarana, AZ$32,629.889
8Meghan JohnsonDeming, NM$26,000.7811
9Victoria WilliamsKiln, MS$25,807.6318
10Layna Kight (G)Ocala, FL$24,333.2534
11Jana BeanFt Hancock, TX$23,748.2610
12Kaley BassKissimmee, FL$23,055.204
13Cassidy KruseGillette, WY$22,152.6712
14Kelly TovarRockdale, TX$20,996.9117
15Shelly AnzickLivingston, MT$20,355.8711
16Kenna SquiresFredonia, TX$18,110.207
17Shelby JanssenColeman, OK$17,341.2710
18Megan SwintLithia, FL$16,343.6725
19Britany DiazSolen, ND$16,001.8510
20Shelby HerrmannStephenville, TX$15,361.989
21Dena KirkpatrickPost, TX$13,961.818
22Chloe HoovestalHelena, MT$13,958.598
23Carmel WrightRoy, MT$13,683.5511
24Benette LittleArdmore, OK$13,526.5510
25Jennifer MosleyPalm City, FL$13,112.2514
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The big bonus rodeos are not fair since all the card holders don't have a chance at it. That is my opinion for the day..LOL 
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Nevertooold - 2015-03-23 7:23 PM The big bonus rodeos are not fair since all the card holders don't have a chance at it. That is my opinion for the day..LOL 

I agree......Invitational rodeos should NOT count....... 
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All of the card holders had a chance - all last year and at San Angelo this year. If you win consistently, you're in. Way to go Nancy Hunter!
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HollyFoster - 2015-03-23 9:06 PM All of the card holders had a chance - all last year and at San Angelo this year. If you win consistently, you're in. Way to go Nancy Hunter!

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The 2015 RODEOHOUSTON BP Super Series is an invitational championship rodeo featuring the top cowboy and cowgirl contestants in the sport of rodeo. HLSR management and staff have the sole authority and responsibility to determine the list of invitees to participate in each Super Series and to determine, on a case-by-case basis, which alternate entry will replace any originally invited contestant that chooses not to enter or decides, for whatever reason, not to compete. The initial invited list is determined using the following criteria (see 4.2). Invitations and alternate entry openings will be published by HLSR in late 2014. HLSR will not be subject to entry rules and procedures of any sanctioning organizations to include, but not limited to, grace periods and office rules. Further, HLSR retains the sole authority to accept or decline the entry of any and all contestants regardless of their standings on the invitation list below.

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Reg. Mar 2005
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Sarah was the All America Rodeo Champion that was how she qualified for her invite.
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Nevertooold - 2015-03-23 5:23 PM

The big bonus rodeos are not fair since all the card holders don't have a chance at it. That is my opinion for the day..LOL 

How is that? All cardholders can travel the previous year to be in the top 30 of the World and you're basically in. All cardholders had an equal opportunity to enter San Angelo or the Pikes Peak rodeo and get their invite. Or if you just compete at the smaller rodeos you have a chance to get in through the All American invite.
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CJE - 2015-03-23 9:33 PM The 2015 RODEOHOUSTON BP Super Series is an invitational championship rodeo featuring the top cowboy and cowgirl contestants in the sport of rodeo. HLSR management and staff have the sole authority and responsibility to determine the list of invitees to participate in each Super Series and to determine, on a case-by-case basis, which alternate entry will replace any originally invited contestant that chooses not to enter or decides, for whatever reason, not to compete. The initial invited list is determined using the following criteria (see 4.2). Invitations and alternate entry openings will be published by HLSR in late 2014. HLSR will not be subject to entry rules and procedures of any sanctioning organizations to include, but not limited to, grace periods and office rules. Further, HLSR retains the sole authority to accept or decline the entry of any and all contestants regardless of their standings on the invitation list below. Barrel Racing invitation criteria: i. Past four (4) RODEOHOUSTON BP Super Series Champions (2011 – 2014). *Past RODEOHOUSTON BP Super Series Champions must be actively competing professionally, in the event they won, to be invited to compete. If not actively competing, they may be invited at the discretion of HLSR Management. ii. Reigning Canadian Professional Rodeo Association Champion. iii. Champion from selected other competitions anywhere in the world (at the sole discretion of HLSR). iv. Special Invitation from HLSR Management (sole discretion of HLSR). vi. 2015 San Angelo Stock Show & Rodeo Champion. vii. 2014 Pikes Peak or Bust Rodeo Champion. viii. 2014 All American ProRodeo Finals Champion. ix. Top three of the 2015 WPRA ProRodeo Standings (as of Dec. 1, 2014). x. Top two of the 2014 WPRA Tour. xi. Remaining invitations will come from the 2014 WPRA ProRodeo Standings.

 Thank you, don't know how I missed that.  
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Karol
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2015-03-24 8:48 AM
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Nevertooold - 2015-03-23 7:23 PM The big bonus rodeos are not fair since all the card holders don't have a chance at it. That is my opinion for the day..LOL 

...and that is why they should let everyone qualify to enter, like they old days.   
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HollyFoster - 2015-03-23 7:06 PM

All of the card holders had a chance - all last year and at San Angelo this year. If you win consistently, you're in. Way to go Nancy Hunter!

Yep agreed! If your good, you get invited!
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Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-03-24 8:51 AM
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Nevertooold - 2015-03-23 7:23 PM

The big bonus rodeos are not fair since all the card holders don't have a chance at it. That is my opinion for the day..LOL 

As long as the requirements to qualify for the invitational rodeos are clear cut and published... I don't see why it isn't fair. If you want in, then make the cut. I'm really excited to see Nancy win it again!
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Posted 2015-03-24 10:25 AM
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Nevertooold - 2015-03-23 7:23 PM The big bonus rodeos are not fair since all the card holders don't have a chance at it. That is my opinion for the day..LOL 

...and that is why they should let everyone qualify to enter, like they old days.   

Isn't that just more money in their pockets or to the pot? I mean why wouldn't you give ppl the chance and take their money?
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Posted 2015-03-24 10:36 AM
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I just kinda feel bad for the rookies.  There are some really great ones this year that I think could be doing much better, but I guess that's all part of being a rookie.  I hope to see some at the NFR!   
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Yep!!!
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Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2015-03-24 1:33 PM
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For the last 30 years I have believed invitationals and limited entry rodeos should not count.  The amount of money that can be won at these can send you to the NFR without much else. 
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Vickie - 2015-03-23 2:33 PM

For the last 30 years I have believed invitationals and limited entry rodeos should not count.  The amount of money that can be won at these can send you to the NFR without much else. 

Agree..........and usually you can tell when one gets to the NFR.......that it was that one run that got them there.....no taking from those that won they had to have the horse to win the big rodeo........but it seems like luck of the draw aka invitational rodeos.......vs the long haul of the rodeo to the NFR.

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I thought this a while back but do you realize that last year 15th place had to have earned somewhere around $75K? Not to mention Nancy qualified WAY higher than 15th. She more than earned her right to be at the NFR.
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Jaders Mom - 2015-03-24 3:31 PM I thought this a while back but do you realize that last year 15th place had to have earned somewhere around $75K? Not to mention Nancy qualified WAY higher than 15th. She more than earned her right to be at the NFR.

How much more did she earn last year if you took away the Houston winnings?   
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3canstorun - 2015-03-24 1:36 PM

Jaders Mom - 2015-03-24 3:31 PM I thought this a while back but do you realize that last year 15th place had to have earned somewhere around $75K? Not to mention Nancy qualified WAY higher than 15th. She more than earned her right to be at the NFR.

How much more did she earn last year if you took away the Houston winnings?   

My best friend's family is extremely close to the Hunters. I have a slight insiders perspective. Their horses come second only to family. She didn't hit a million rodeos because she didn't want to run the legs off of Fuzz. She didn't need to. If you follow Nancy at all you would see that she chooses to stay close to home and has never really made a push for the NFR.
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Posted 2015-03-24 3:18 PM
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Jaders Mom - 2015-03-24 4:05 PM
3canstorun - 2015-03-24 1:36 PM
Jaders Mom - 2015-03-24 3:31 PM I thought this a while back but do you realize that last year 15th place had to have earned somewhere around $75K? Not to mention Nancy qualified WAY higher than 15th. She more than earned her right to be at the NFR.
How much more did she earn last year if you took away the Houston winnings?   
My best friend's family is extremely close to the Hunters. I have a slight insiders perspective. Their horses come second only to family. She didn't hit a million rodeos because she didn't want to run the legs off of Fuzz. She didn't need to. If you follow Nancy at all you would see that she chooses to stay close to home and has never really made a push for the NFR.

I have no stand on this at all.  Either way - I just out of curiosity was wondering what her earnings were if she had not had Houston in them.   
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Nancy Hunter is a winner. It took 6 runs to be declared the champ at Houston. Even if she had earned enough to qualify for the NFR on Houston alone, when she got there, she was in the top 10 money earners at the NFR, which means she out ran 33% of the other NFR qualifiers competing last year - many of whom went to 90+ rodeos and couldn't get close to her.

If you want to get to Houston ladies, load up and win. All of us arm chair quarterbacks are the reason committees choose to offer their paying audiences the day in/day out, proven, best of the best - instead of those of us who had a chance to "take their money" all year last year and didn't. As for me, until I can prove I am not just added money when I enter, I'll keep buying tickets to watch the best, or at least try to pay my cable bill to watch them on tv.

Its hard to understand why everyone's on the bandwagon for The American because it pays so well, yet bash other rodeos that increase their payout to improve the sport. We should all be excited about trying to get there next year, and if you're not, then enter The American - one great run in a qualifier can at least maybe get you on tv at the semifinals.

Hats off to all of the qualifiers to RodeoHouston. You earned it.
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3canstorun - 2015-03-24 1:18 PM
Jaders Mom - 2015-03-24 4:05 PM
3canstorun - 2015-03-24 1:36 PM
Jaders Mom - 2015-03-24 3:31 PM I thought this a while back but do you realize that last year 15th place had to have earned somewhere around $75K? Not to mention Nancy qualified WAY higher than 15th. She more than earned her right to be at the NFR.
How much more did she earn last year if you took away the Houston winnings?   
My best friend's family is extremely close to the Hunters. I have a slight insiders perspective. Their horses come second only to family. She didn't hit a million rodeos because she didn't want to run the legs off of Fuzz. She didn't need to. If you follow Nancy at all you would see that she chooses to stay close to home and has never really made a push for the NFR.
I have no stand on this at all.  Either way - I just out of curiosity was wondering what her earnings were if she had not had Houston in them.   

I think she won about $35-40,000 (including Calgary) besides Houston and only at 27 rodeos. 
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3canstorun - 2015-03-24 2:18 PM

Jaders Mom - 2015-03-24 4:05 PM
3canstorun - 2015-03-24 1:36 PM
Jaders Mom - 2015-03-24 3:31 PM I thought this a while back but do you realize that last year 15th place had to have earned somewhere around $75K? Not to mention Nancy qualified WAY higher than 15th. She more than earned her right to be at the NFR.
How much more did she earn last year if you took away the Houston winnings?   
My best friend's family is extremely close to the Hunters. I have a slight insiders perspective. Their horses come second only to family. She didn't hit a million rodeos because she didn't want to run the legs off of Fuzz. She didn't need to. If you follow Nancy at all you would see that she chooses to stay close to home and has never really made a push for the NFR.

I have no stand on this at all.  Either way - I just out of curiosity was wondering what her earnings were if she had not had Houston in them.   

I'm sorry. I thought you were being snarky. That's what I hate about the written word. You can't hear the intent.

To answer your original question, Nancy went in to the NFR with $104,289.49 with only 26 rodeos.
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Look at it this way...

They choose who can enter Houston based on other rodeos with NFR level competition, along with the NFR itself. To me Houston is kinda like a way to say thank you to those contestant who are capable of consistently putting on a good show and making a quality run no matter what. They choose the contestants knowing that they will get to the NFR if they win. I would love to see any of those girls compete at the NFR and I have yet to see any WPRA girls complain about rodeo houston or other invitational rodeos 
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outrundaizy - 2015-03-24 5:35 PM Look at it this way...

They choose who can enter Houston based on other rodeos with NFR level competition, along with the NFR itself. To me Houston is kinda like a way to say thank you to those contestant who are capable of consistently putting on a good show and making a quality run no matter what. They choose the contestants knowing that they will get to the NFR if they win. I would love to see any of those girls compete at the NFR and I have yet to see any WPRA girls complain about rodeo houston or other invitational rodeos 
They really are not "chosen",  those that get to enter Houston are qualifed by virtue of the rodeos they won the prior year and also being in the top 3 for the current year.  Everyone has a shot at the qualifier rodeos that lead to Houston.  If a qualified contestant chooses not to participate then a real choice is made as to who will fill that spot.  Limited seems to be a better word to describe their entry system.
 

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They choose who can enter Houston based on other rodeos with NFR level competition, along with the NFR itself. To me Houston is kinda like a way to say thank you to those contestant who are capable of consistently putting on a good show and making a quality run no matter what. They choose the contestants knowing that they will get to the NFR if they win. I would love to see any of those girls compete at the NFR and I have yet to see any WPRA girls complain about rodeo houston or other invitational rodeos 

Many of those girls you are referring to, including 3 different world champions, will run at these rodeos but have said they think they should not count towards world standing.  They enter to win the money because that is what they do for a living.  They just don't think it should count.  One even submitted a rule that only a percentage of money won at Houston should count, if it was going to count.  Her proposal would make it equal to what other big building rodeos pay.  She had won Houston and still felt this way.

There are feelings on both sides.
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Many are missing the point. You have to earn your card by winning so much money. At that point you move from a permit holder to a full member into the WPRA. With your membership, in the older days, that allowed you to enter any rodeo. Example...San Antonio took everyone that entered. From there they ran a slack if the entries were more then the perfs could handle. The roughstock usually didn't have to run a slack. From the slack they took the top to run in the performances. When we first moved down to Texas, they had over 200 and some entries in the barrels and from there they took 50. That is fair. It gives every member a chance to enter the big rodeos.

I know a girl that had a great horse and ended up in the top 50 but never got lucky in the draw to enter the big Texas rodeos with limited entries. That sucks.

All of these limited and invitational rodeos aren't for the benefit of the members of either the PRCA or the WPRA. It just makes it easier for the producer. I find a problem with that.

Just a FYI...I love Nancy and Fuzz and this has nothing to do with this. It's amazing to have won Houston 3 times in a row. Just think if she hadn't got lucky to get in the first time.

 
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Nevertooold - 2015-03-24 9:21 PM Many are missing the point. You have to earn your card by winning so much money. At that point you move from a permit holder to a full member into the WPRA. With your membership, in the older days, that allowed you to enter any rodeo. Example...San Antonio took everyone that entered. From there they ran a slack if the entries were more then the perfs could handle. The roughstock usually didn't have to run a slack. From the slack they took the top to run in the performances. When we first moved down to Texas, they had over 200 and some entries in the barrels and from there they took 50. That is fair. It gives every member a chance to enter the big rodeos.



I know a girl that had a great horse and ended up in the top 50 but never got lucky in the draw to enter the big Texas rodeos with limited entries. That sucks.



All of these limited and invitational rodeos aren't for the benefit of the members of either the PRCA or the WPRA. It just makes it easier for the producer. I find a problem with that.



Just a FYI...I love Nancy and Fuzz and this has nothing to do with this. It's amazing to have won Houston 3 times in a row. Just think if she hadn't got lucky to get in the first time.


 

 Good points, and I agree, no slack is easier on the producer.
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Nevertooold - 2015-03-24 7:21 PM Many are missing the point. You have to earn your card by winning so much money. At that point you move from a permit holder to a full member into the WPRA. With your membership, in the older days, that allowed you to enter any rodeo. Example...San Antonio took everyone that entered. From there they ran a slack if the entries were more then the perfs could handle. The roughstock usually didn't have to run a slack. From the slack they took the top to run in the performances. When we first moved down to Texas, they had over 200 and some entries in the barrels and from there they took 50. That is fair. It gives every member a chance to enter the big rodeos.



I know a girl that had a great horse and ended up in the top 50 but never got lucky in the draw to enter the big Texas rodeos with limited entries. That sucks.



All of these limited and invitational rodeos aren't for the benefit of the members of either the PRCA or the WPRA. It just makes it easier for the producer. I find a problem with that.



Just a FYI...I love Nancy and Fuzz and this has nothing to do with this. It's amazing to have won Houston 3 times in a row. Just think if she hadn't got lucky to get in the first time.


 

You also used to have to actually win the money at rodeos. Not at jackpots with perfect ground, no crowd, no ropers, etc. There are a lot of "cardholders" that win tons at the WPRA approved jackpots, but can't get close at a rodeo.  

I do think at some of these more limited or invite rodeos (Houston, Calgary, etc.) they should make sure the contestant is still actually on the same calibur of horse that qualified them. It is so annoying (to me anyway) to watch someone run whose good horse got hurt or sold or whatever, and they are on a colt or horse that has no business being there. Being that the rodeo is so limited it seems like they are taking a chance away from someone who is running an NFR caliber horse that was just out of being invited. That is probably another thread though...
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Vickie - 2015-03-23 2:33 PM For the last 30 years I have believed invitationals and limited entry rodeos should not count.  The amount of money that can be won at these can send you to the NFR without much else. 
Agree..........and usually you can tell when one gets to the NFR.......that it was that one run that got them there.....no taking from those that won they had to have the horse to win the big rodeo........but it seems like luck of the draw aka invitational rodeos.......vs the long haul of the rodeo to the NFR.

Last year last hole was around $70,000. So it's much more than "one" run. Plus at Houston you have to make 5 or 6 runs in qualifying brackets and win money in the brackets to even get to the big money round. Have you tried to win $20,000 recently at rodeos or run in a bracket style rodeo? It's not exactly easy. If someone wins Houston, Calgary, etc. they have earned it and most likely had to travel hard the year before to earn enough money to be qualified. So they probably had to win $40,000 plus the year before they got in to Houtson.
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farmer's tan
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Posted 2015-03-24 11:32 PM
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Holy Cow! Only the end of March and already in the $$50 thousands?!?! May be a tough year!

The rodeos that I personally have a problem with are the "Champions Challenge" (I think they count toward NFR?) and it's only a small handful of ladies/teams.
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Reg. Jun 2005
Posted 2015-03-25 5:51 AM
Subject: RE: Current WPRA Standings, Nancy Hunter sitting #1



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I am certainly not talking about anyone specific.  This issue bothered me before most of the NFR were born!   
 
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river runner
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2015-03-25 6:22 AM
Subject: RE: Current WPRA Standings, Nancy Hunter sitting #1


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The reason there is never slack in the rough stock events is because they limit them so much. Even at the little $1000 added rodeos they are limited. WAY more limits and qualifications than the barrel race!
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Reg. Jul 2004
Posted 2015-03-25 9:54 AM
Subject: RE: Current WPRA Standings, Nancy Hunter sitting #1


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farmer's tan - 2015-03-24 11:32 PM Holy Cow! Only the end of March and already in the $$50 thousands?!?! May be a tough year! The rodeos that I personally have a problem with are the "Champions Challenge" (I think they count toward NFR?) and it's only a small handful of ladies/teams.

I agree with you, but after talking to a few that have qualified and their "rule issues", I think we will see more turning down the option to enter.  
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-03-25 10:05 AM
Subject: RE: Current WPRA Standings, Nancy Hunter sitting #1



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Jaders Mom - 2015-03-24 3:31 PM I thought this a while back but do you realize that last year 15th place had to have earned somewhere around $75K? Not to mention Nancy qualified WAY higher than 15th. She more than earned her right to be at the NFR.
How much more did she earn last year if you took away the Houston winnings?   
My best friend's family is extremely close to the Hunters. I have a slight insiders perspective. Their horses come second only to family. She didn't hit a million rodeos because she didn't want to run the legs off of Fuzz. She didn't need to. If you follow Nancy at all you would see that she chooses to stay close to home and has never really made a push for the NFR.
This!  I love that if you play the cards right and you are that 'tough', then you don't have to 'out rodeo' everyone.  I have so much respect for Nancy in the way that she's chosen to take care of her horse and the fact that she's looked at it from a budget perspective.  If you don't hit at the big invitational rodeos (where you had to earn the right to enter), then you can opt to haul to 100 rodeos putting 200,000 miles on your truck and spending goodness knows what AND still get to Vegas.  

Being able to out haul someone with better resources doesn't mean that you're tougher than they are, just means you've got a deeper checkbook.



 

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CJE
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-03-25 10:40 AM
Subject: RE: Current WPRA Standings, Nancy Hunter sitting #1



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Calibarrelrcr - 2015-03-23 10:51 PM

CJE - 2015-03-24 11:45 AM
Vickie - 2015-03-23 2:33 PM For the last 30 years I have believed invitationals and limited entry rodeos should not count.  The amount of money that can be won at these can send you to the NFR without much else. 
Agree..........and usually you can tell when one gets to the NFR.......that it was that one run that got them there.....no taking from those that won they had to have the horse to win the big rodeo........but it seems like luck of the draw aka invitational rodeos.......vs the long haul of the rodeo to the NFR.

Last year last hole was around $70,000. So it's much more than "one" run. Plus at Houston you have to make 5 or 6 runs in qualifying brackets and win money in the brackets to even get to the big money round. Have you tried to win $20,000 recently at rodeos or run in a bracket style rodeo? It's not exactly easy. If someone wins Houston, Calgary, etc. they have earned it and most likely had to travel hard the year before to earn enough money to be qualified. So they probably had to win $40,000 plus the year before they got in to Houtson.

Not necessary referring to Nancy........she has a great horse............
I still think they shouldn't count unless all are allowed to enter.........at least cards only........with a $500.00 entry you will eliminate the wanna be's like me............maybe one slack run and then then top 40 progress.......oh well its not my rodeo so Houston can do what they want.............
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ksjackofalltrades
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2015-03-25 11:02 AM
Subject: RE: Current WPRA Standings, Nancy Hunter sitting #1


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river runner - 2015-03-25 6:22 AM The reason there is never slack in the rough stock events is because they limit them so much. Even at the little $1000 added rodeos they are limited. WAY more limits and qualifications than the barrel race!

The can limit the rough stock all they want because there isn't but about 50 to 75 of them out there.   The limits should be in line with the number of card holders in each event.  When there are 2000 barrel racers it is hardly fair to limit them to 40 when there might be 50 bareback riders in the whole association and they also limit them to 40.   
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MS2011
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2015-03-25 11:42 AM
Subject: RE: Current WPRA Standings, Nancy Hunter sitting #1



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ksjackofalltrades - 2015-03-25 11:02 AM
river runner - 2015-03-25 6:22 AM The reason there is never slack in the rough stock events is because they limit them so much. Even at the little $1000 added rodeos they are limited. WAY more limits and qualifications than the barrel race!
The can limit the rough stock all they want because there isn't but about 50 to 75 of them out there.   The limits should be in line with the number of card holders in each event.  When there are 2000 barrel racers it is hardly fair to limit them to 40 when there might be 50 bareback riders in the whole association and they also limit them to 40.   

Great point!
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