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Location: Charlestown, IN | I have a 4 year old gelding that was diagnosed yesterday with a torn hip/butt muscle. The vet wants to blister it. Said it is immediate results. I have been searching and I am finding positive results but a lot of people are saying it is inhumane/cruel??  |
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| How cruel is it to leave him the way he is? Just a question. As I am healing up from a torn bicep that had to be repaired... YEah it hurts but it hurt alot worse before it was fixed. |
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Location: Kansas | what does having it blistered mean? never heard of this. |
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The Purple Princess
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Location: Charlestown, IN | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-27 11:48 AM what does having it blistered mean? never heard of this.
This is my understanding.. Blistering refers to injecting a caustic substance into a joint in order to cause scar tissue to strengthen the connective tissue or ligaments within the joint. I don't know a lot about it otherwise. That's why I was asking. I didn't know if there are other treatment options. I will treat him, just didn't know if blistering was the best choice.
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| Racey Stacey - 2015-03-27 10:25 AM
I have a 4 year old gelding that was diagnosed yesterday with a torn hip/butt muscle. The vet wants to blister it. Said it is immediate results. I have been searching and I am finding positive results but a lot of people are saying it is inhumane/cruel??
I'm assuming internal blister?
Take your vets advice. Its better for a lil bit of pain now than long term pain and loss of motion for awhile.
Think of what you do to/for your kids that seems odd but in the long run is better off for them. |
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Location: Tuttle Oklahoma | I had to get a blister last year on my good horse but the results were not immediate. I had to keep him stalled up for three weeks and only walk him to the right (he pulled his on his right side) 10 mins a day for exercise. He completely recovered and he has not had any issues with it since. The needle they use is pretty big but I didn't see it as inhumane. |
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The Purple Princess
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Location: Charlestown, IN | astreakinchic - 2015-03-27 12:33 PM Racey Stacey - 2015-03-27 10:25 AM I have a 4 year old gelding that was diagnosed yesterday with a torn hip/butt muscle. The vet wants to blister it. Said it is immediate results. I have been searching and I am finding positive results but a lot of people are saying it is inhumane/cruel?? I'm assuming internal blister? Take your vets advice. Its better for a lil bit of pain now than long term pain and loss of motion for awhile. Think of what you do to/for your kids that seems odd but in the long run is better off for them.
Yes, internal. I plan to have it done, just really wanted to get more information on it before doing so. Thank you |
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| Racey Stacey - 2015-03-27 11:26 AM
hoofs_in_motion - 2015-03-27 11:48 AM what does having it blistered mean? never heard of this.
This is my understanding.. Blistering refers to injecting a caustic substance into a joint in order to cause scar tissue to strengthen the connective tissue or ligaments within the joint. I don't know a lot about it otherwise. That's why I was asking. I didn't know if there are other treatment options. I will treat him, just didn't know if blistering was the best choice.
I personally wouldn't do it, I do think it is archaic, inhumane, and there are better alternatives
The other options are
IRAP
PRP
Stem cells
Injecting HA into the injured area
Or a combination of the above
I have used generic stem cells a product called a cell on tendons and Ligaments, the recovery time is faster, less adhesions, and I had the same results as when I did the stem cells out of the hip. |
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Location: Benton City, WA | Mo! - 2015-03-27 10:42 AM I had to get a blister last year on my good horse but the results were not immediate. I had to keep him stalled up for three weeks and only walk him to the right (he pulled his on his right side) 10 mins a day for exercise. He completely recovered and he has not had any issues with it since. The needle they use is pretty big but I didn't see it as inhumane.
If the diagnosis is correct and it is a torn muscle, it needs 4 weeks of stall rest and it should be significantly better- without a blister, IRAP, stem cell or anything else.
There is no evidence that blistering will help repair torn muscle faster, therefore I personally would not do it or recommend it. Just my 2 cents.
I had a mare with a torn thigh muscle and she came back great, with appropriate rest and rehab. They may heal with some scar tissue though, and I personally would not want to do anything that might increase the amount of scarring (ie blistering). I can tell you that when my mare tore her muscle, I had her at WSU Vet Teaching Hospital, and seen by one of the best lameness/leg vets anywhere and blistering was never recommended to me. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I've had great results from PRP on soft tissue injuries. |
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| Which muscle is torn exactly? |
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| I was seriously considering this for MYSELF rather than my horse. After 6 months I am finally getting some relief after not only pulverizing my left butt, but had strained ligaments IN my hip socket along with other damage. I usually heal fairly quickly and this has just dragged on and on and ON! And just for general information they DO use internal blisters on humans, only they call it prolotherapy? Or something like that. I had an older sister researching it for herself. Some extra pain for faster and better recovery? I am in!
There may be alternatives now but internal blistering still has applications. Much more affordable than some other therapies such as IRAP. The purpose of blistering is to introduce an irritant which brings more blood to the area. |
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| You don't want to internal blister. It can cause scar tissue. How big of are is torn? |
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Location: Charlestown, IN | I don't know the answer to most of the questions being asked. He is BARELY sore. Only shows signs here and there. He came up dead lame last week one day. I got him to the vet the next. He wasn't lame enough for him to do anything to him then. Told me to take him home and ride him really hard for 3 days in a row and get him sore. He still isn't sore.... Ugh.. He will be a little when I first lunge him but works out of it and then is fine. It's so frustrating because there IS something wrong but he doesn't show signs enough for them to fix it. When the vet tested him, he "gave" at his left butt/hip. Would have fell if the vet didn't let go. This is the 2nd vet he has seen. He has been chiro'd etc. He said it's gruesome but a quick fix. Said I could ride him the next day. This is a track vet and he does specialize in lameness. I read where it says track vets still use it but most other vets do not... I'm going to keep reading up before I decide anything and I truly appreciate everyone sharing their experiences, etc. I'm open to all advice.  |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | One of mine tore a butt muscle and it healed with a lot of scar tissue. He got sound enough to run him again, but the scar tissue would make him sore every time he ran. Track vet did an internal blister on the scar tissue, it gave him relief and he was placing in the 1D at major barrel races afterward without hurting after his run. It's counter-intuitive to how it's used for loose stifles, but it did work. This was an old injury (4 years old at that point) and over 10 years ago. The vets I have used in the last few years prefer PRP, even the ones working on racehorses. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | I would use some THE NutraWound first. I don't know too much about blistering. I'm sure there is a time and place for it but I have always thought he was kind of inhumane. But I always take a more holistic approach to problems but do use medicine when you need to. So I am not sure if this is a medicine situation. Can you get another opinion?
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The Purple Princess
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Location: Charlestown, IN | Cowgirl Kat - 2015-03-30 3:02 PM I would use some THE NutraWound first. I don't know too much about blistering. I'm sure there is a time and place for it but I have always thought he was kind of inhumane. But I always take a more holistic approach to problems but do use medicine when you need to. So I am not sure if this is a medicine situation. Can you get another opinion?
This is my 2nd opinion.. Blah... The first vet didn't really give me many options. Said he wasn't sore enough for him to treat.. Ugh............................. Still seems fairly sound last night but I KNOW he's off. It's driving me crazy to say the least. HA |
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Location: Beggs, OK | To the people that are saying that blistering is inhumane....do you understand that there is a difference between internal and external blistering?
Also, I promise you that very few therapies that we use on our horses actually feel good at the time of application....but, they offer relief. Letting a horse remain sore and hurting so that you can try some herbs first is inhumane. |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | Don't really see how using herbs first is inhumane... I believe trying the herbs first but if I don't see any relief or improvement within a few days then switch to more medical help. ex. pain relief. Herbs don't fix all and I think as society we rely too much on drugs for everything. People get headaches and pop ibuprofen when maybe they are just dehydrated. But these are just my observations and opinion and no one has to listen to them.  |
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Torn hip/butt muscle --- having it blistered?? Anyone??