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Breeding with the mindset to sell at a sale
ndiehl
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I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here.

TIA

Edited: That was supposed to say "or send them as weanlings' ... when I am on my phone I can't read half of what I write... I should really get that phone screen fixed... Hehe Sorry for that and any other bad grammer, spelling or messed up sentences.

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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM

I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here.

TIA

I guess the first question is where would you sell?
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Cell.   Just seemed to fit in with your title. 

Anyway.  I'd rather sell them as yearlings before they die on me.  I'd also send them to the LG or the BFA sale.  They seem to be the most consistently higher priced. 

 

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Whiteboy - 2015-03-30 5:02 PM Cell.   

Cell what?  
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lol it just fit. 
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I have to agree about the selling them before they die, scar themselves up, break a shoulder, etc. It seems to me that the weanlings almost bring more or near close to what the yearlings are bringing......you have to decide if the risk, work and money it will take to raise them another year is worth it to you. I'm not sure that it is. You getting them to Louisiana or Oklahoma is going to be another big expense on you. 
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-03-30 5:11 PM Sail this then... LOL 

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Southtxponygirl - 2015-03-30 5:11 PM Sail this then... LOL 
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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM

I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here.

TIA

I guess the first question is where would you sell?

That I am still trying to figure out, and partly why I asked. Somewhere down there! lol

I am going based of what people want before I start looking at what sales to target them towards. It would be a huge trip/expense for me to bring them so I want to make it worth it by doing my research, since I wouldn't want to bring them back and no sale them. I just know my horses have been overlooked because I live in no where across a boarder that no one seems to like to deal with. I would want one of the larger/well known sales obviously that is known for drawing crowds and serious buyers.
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It's another 10 hours from here to the BFA sale, so I'd say target that audience lol.
 
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You know, I tried the LG Sale with a very well broke 3 year old. Nice pedigree, speed, great disposition. For what it took for me to raise, feed, train her, I would have been in the hole had I sold her for 6k. Not to mention, the time and work involved. It would have probably gotten her in a good barrel home, because the audience there is such. I chose to futurity her myself, because I'd rather keep her for myself in the end than take a loss on her. So, would I wait that long again? I'm thinking I won't and am focusing on putting younger stock in the LG Sale next year. If for no other reason than that they will be eligible for the Sale Futurity. So, to answer your question, I'd go with younger stock.....weanlings/yearlings.....but, that fits my program right now. Never doubt that a proven, packed performance pedigree on a well trained horse will ususally bring good money. Guess you just have to decide what will be best for you now and you may change it in the future. If I had say 5 ASOF's, I'd haul those boogers as weanlings or yearlings.
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LRQHS - 2015-03-30 5:30 PM

You know, I tried the LG Sale with a very well broke 3 year old. Nice pedigree, speed, great disposition. For what it took for me to raise, feed, train her, I would have been in the hole had I sold her for 6k. Not to mention, the time and work involved. It would have probably gotten her in a good barrel home, because the audience there is such. I chose to futurity her myself, because I'd rather keep her for myself in the end than take a loss on her. So, would I wait that long again? I'm thinking I won't and am focusing on putting younger stock in the LG Sale next year. If for no other reason than that they will be eligible for the Sale Futurity. So, to answer your question, I'd go with younger stock.....weanlings/yearlings.....but, that fits my program right now. Never doubt that a proven, packed performance pedigree on a well trained horse will ususally bring good money. Guess you just have to decide what will be best for you now and you may change it in the future. If I had say 5 ASOF's, I'd haul those boogers as weanlings or yearlings.

I get what your saying. Do you think if they hit awkward growing stages around the sale it will impact there prices a lot? I would obviously like to get rid of them as young as possible before they hurt themselves and cost me more $$ then they will 'already be doing. Also the longer I keep them the more likely they won't leave....



ETA: I am willing to sacrifice what would be ideal for what the consumer wants.... If they want older horses I will keep them but I would hope the fetch a bit more $$



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I have considered this awkward growth spurt too lol. I don't know the answer but to feed them good, blanket and groom them. I guess if one looks too "awkward," I'll be coming home with him lol. 

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The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.

I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
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I'll try a couple in the 2016 sale and I'll be the guinea pig lol. Just keep watching lol. 
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Also something here, my yearlings won't be as old as others due to my climate. I am going for early April babies but it's a crap-shoot when breeding right, they might not catch...
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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 5:45 PM The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.

I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
 Why do you choose the Texas best over the BBR or BFA?

ETA: Actually the average for the TB was significantly better than the BBR and slightly better than the BFA.  Not what I expected to see. 

 

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Whiteboy - 2015-03-30 6:07 PM

TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 5:45 PM The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.

I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
 Why do you choose the Texas best over the BBR or BFA?

ETA: Actually the average for the TB was significantly better than the BBR and slightly better than the BFA.  Not what I expected to see. 

 

She told you already.


Going big time



and ftr, I sort of agree with her.

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arion - 2015-03-30 7:58 PM

Whiteboy - 2015-03-30 6:07 PM

TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 5:45 PM The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.

I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
 Why do you choose the Texas best over the BBR or BFA?

ETA: Actually the average for the TB was significantly better than the BBR and slightly better than the BFA.  Not what I expected to see. 

 

She told you already.


Going big time



and ftr, I sort of agree with her.


She kinda smart. She got some skillz.
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Posted 2015-03-30 9:19 PM
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I've thought about sending one through BFA, Texas Best or Heritage. But I think I make more on weanlings. I'm in TX. Ideal market. I sold mine to Canada. If they are desirable enough they will sell. The other interested people were in AZ and MT. It was the pics and pedigree that got people to call me, not the location. There are horses who have local appeal and those that have national. Breed the national ones.
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Are these foals primarily barrel racing bloodlines or quarter racing bloodlines? I'm assuming they're bred more so for barrels than racing since you're on a barrel racing site, but would someone looking for a race horse be interested in your horses?
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BMW - 2015-03-30 10:18 PM

Are these foals primarily barrel racing bloodlines or quarter racing bloodlines? I'm assuming they're bred more so for barrels than racing since you're on a barrel racing site, but would someone looking for a race horse be interested in your horses?

Depending on the stallion I can go either way. These particular foals I have targeted more for barrels and race people won't like them as much. In the future I am going to stick with racing lines that can go either way (Ivory James, tres seis, Stoli, etc). The only thing I know will hinder race foals is my location, I am going to have to breed earlier in the year then I would like or risk having foals later and not as developed.

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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 5:45 PM The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.



I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
 Why do you choose the Texas best over the BBR or BFA?



ETA: Actually the average for the TB was significantly better than the BBR and slightly better than the BFA.  Not what I expected to see. 


 
She told you already. Going big time and ftr, I sort of agree with her.
She kinda smart. She got some skillz.

Yes...Going Big Time is my main hold back. But I don't think BBR is put on by them, so I'll have to look more in to that one.
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A friend of mine really wanted me to try the Triangle sale coming up in May. I just don't know that that's the right sale to bring the big buyers. Anyone have any input on that one? 
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oija - 2015-03-30 9:19 PM

I've thought about sending one through BFA, Texas Best or Heritage. But I think I make more on weanlings. I'm in TX. Ideal market. I sold mine to Canada. If they are desirable enough they will sell. The other interested people were in AZ and MT. It was the pics and pedigree that got people to call me, not the location. There are horses who have local appeal and those that have national. Breed the national ones.

I understand this as well; but from my friends and my personal experiences I find a person is more likely to bring one up into Canada then down into the US. People down there have a mentality that they can find something like that closer to them, and in all honesty there is the selection down there to possibly do so. I find mine from far away places regularly but also pay a good chunk bringing them home. I also have had people tell me they want nothing to do with the border, and think it's a lot of work and additional $$ to get them across (and depending on the prices it can be). I've done it several times and don't find it difficult, but it's the general thought process from people I talk too.


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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 10:47 PM

A friend of mine really wanted me to try the Triangle sale coming up in May. I just don't know that that's the right sale to bring the big buyers. Anyone have any input on that one? 

Judging by past catalogs, Triangle Sales attracts more cutters than anything else. They sell other modalities, but are top heavy on cutting breds.
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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 5:45 PM The crosses I am doing this year I am planning to send to the sales in 2017 as yearlings. I am probably going to take a yearling to the Texas best futurity sale this fall and if it goes well, I will plan to go to it again.



I like the LG sale, but I don't care in general for the sales put on by Going Big TIme Sales. They seem to favor their own horses and magically his are always the horses that bring the most.
 Why do you choose the Texas best over the BBR or BFA?



ETA: Actually the average for the TB was significantly better than the BBR and slightly better than the BFA.  Not what I expected to see. 


 
She told you already. Going big time and ftr, I sort of agree with her.
She kinda smart. She got some skillz.

Yes...Going Big Time is my main hold back. But I don't think BBR is put on by them, so I'll have to look more in to that one.

GoingBigTimes runs the BFA, Lance Graves and BBR Sales.
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BMW - 2015-03-30 10:18 PM

Are these foals primarily barrel racing bloodlines or quarter racing bloodlines? I'm assuming they're bred more so for barrels than racing since you're on a barrel racing site, but would someone looking for a race horse be interested in your horses?

Depending on the stallion I can go either way. These particular foals I have targeted more for barrels and race people won't like them as much. In the future I am going to stick with racing lines that can go either way (Ivory James, tres seis, Stoli, etc). The only thing I know will hinder race foals is my location, I am going to have to breed earlier in the year then I would like or risk having foals later and not as developed.

Heritage Place has several sales in OKC through out the year. More and more barrel horse people are attending them looking for prospects. There have been a few straight barrel prospects (own son of Frenchman's Guy) sold there, but I don't follow the sale to know if it would be a good sale for a barrel bred horse.
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Bred heifers are selling good now too. Market is really going up on calves next year. definitely a win win and no gamble. that's where i'd put my money...................
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BMW - 2015-03-30 11:48 PM

ndiehl - 2015-03-30 10:31 PM

BMW - 2015-03-30 10:18 PM

Are these foals primarily barrel racing bloodlines or quarter racing bloodlines? I'm assuming they're bred more so for barrels than racing since you're on a barrel racing site, but would someone looking for a race horse be interested in your horses?

Depending on the stallion I can go either way. These particular foals I have targeted more for barrels and race people won't like them as much. In the future I am going to stick with racing lines that can go either way (Ivory James, tres seis, Stoli, etc). The only thing I know will hinder race foals is my location, I am going to have to breed earlier in the year then I would like or risk having foals later and not as developed.

Heritage Place has several sales in OKC through out the year. More and more barrel horse people are attending them looking for prospects. There have been a few straight barrel prospects (own son of Frenchman's Guy) sold there, but I don't follow the sale to know if it would be a good sale for a barrel bred horse.

I was going to say Heritage Place too.
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TheOldGrayMare - 2015-03-30 10:47 PM

A friend of mine really wanted me to try the Triangle sale coming up in May. I just don't know that that's the right sale to bring the big buyers. Anyone have any input on that one? 

We haven't been in years bc of the shift to cutters/cowbred buyers there. ItS probably been 15 years since we have gone to sell or buy anything there. Honestly we picked up some deals there and paid high for others. I haven't looked at the sale results catalog in forever.

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If you have a true cross over baby with a solid to good catalog page, I'd put it in a Heritage mixed sale. Don't try to compete with the yearlings, that is a no win situation.

If you have mediocre to solid catalog pages I'd aim for a barrel sale. My personal preference is Texas Best but that is just because I'm comfortable there. I have a yearling that will be in it if I don't sell her first.

I have a 2015 colt that will go to Heritage at a fall or winter sale. He has a good female family (who also happens to have fashionable lines) and a well received sire. He has a legitimate shot at being a stakes horse and an arena star. He also has stallion potential.

You want to make sure your horse is going to get attention and that the money to go with that attention is there. Money might show up at every sale, you just have to know which money. 


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 One thing about the Texas Best Sale is no other sale advertises your sale horses like the Texas Best Sale.  Your sale horses will be in a great central location.  Consignors are  treated well & the sale team is there to help.   Consignors & buyers are treated with a appreciation dinner.  The sale office is open @ 9am-5pm. Wednesday thru Sunday & on sale day the office opens @ 8am..  Have a veterinarian on the sale premise.  

Heritage Sale:  Consignment fee:  $600
Texas Best Sale:  Consignment fee:  $400  Commission: 7%  PO 5%

We will strive to be of assistance to consignors & buyers from the day you consign your horse....no matter how your horse is bred.  We will work to sell your horse.

 
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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here. TIA

 Long yearlings sell very well in November.  So do 3yo's.
 
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dhanover - 2015-03-31 7:45 PM  One thing about the Texas Best Sale is no other sale advertises your sale horses like the Texas Best Sale.  Your sale horses will be in a great central location.  Consignors are  treated well & the sale team is there to help.   Consignors & buyers are treated with a appreciation dinner.  The sale office is open @ 9am-5pm. Wednesday thru Sunday & on sale day the office opens @ 8am..  Have a veterinarian on the sale premise.  



Heritage Sale:  Consignment fee:  $600

Texas Best Sale:  Consignment fee:  $400  Commission: 7%  PO 5%



We will strive to be of assistance to consignors & buyers from the day you consign your horse....no matter how your horse is bred.  We will work to sell your horse.


 

When is the Texas Best Sale? Are the horses that pass through the ring eligible for any incentives or races?
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dhanover - 2015-03-31 7:45 PM  One thing about the Texas Best Sale is no other sale advertises your sale horses like the Texas Best Sale.  Your sale horses will be in a great central location.  Consignors are  treated well & the sale team is there to help.   Consignors & buyers are treated with a appreciation dinner.  The sale office is open @ 9am-5pm. Wednesday thru Sunday & on sale day the office opens @ 8am..  Have a veterinarian on the sale premise.  



Heritage Sale:  Consignment fee:  $600

Texas Best Sale:  Consignment fee:  $400  Commission: 7%  PO 5%



We will strive to be of assistance to consignors & buyers from the day you consign your horse....no matter how your horse is bred.  We will work to sell your horse.


 
When is the Texas Best Sale? Are the horses that pass through the ring eligible for any incentives or races?

 November 13th @ 7:30.....it is held in conjunction with the Elite Extravaganza & JBQH Futurity.

Please private  message me for more info.....I don't want to break rules.....which I think I may already have.  :(  or check it out on FB.  :)

 
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dhanover - 2015-03-31 7:45 PM  One thing about the Texas Best Sale is no other sale advertises your sale horses like the Texas Best Sale.  Your sale horses will be in a great central location.  Consignors are  treated well & the sale team is there to help.   Consignors & buyers are treated with a appreciation dinner.  The sale office is open @ 9am-5pm. Wednesday thru Sunday & on sale day the office opens @ 8am..  Have a veterinarian on the sale premise.  



Heritage Sale:  Consignment fee:  $600

Texas Best Sale:  Consignment fee:  $400  Commission: 7%  PO 5%



We will strive to be of assistance to consignors & buyers from the day you consign your horse....no matter how your horse is bred.  We will work to sell your horse.


 
When is the Texas Best Sale? Are the horses that pass through the ring eligible for any incentives or races?
 November 13th @ 7:30.....it is held in conjunction with the Elite Extravaganza & JBQH Futurity.



Please private  message me for more info.....I don't want to break rules.....which I think I may already have.  :(  or check it out on FB.  :)


 

Ok. I found it on FB. Thanks for the info. I'll look at it :
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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here. TIA

 Long yearlings sell very well in November.  So do 3yo's.
 

Thank you, I was leaning at selling them as long yearlings. I can't take the chance of weanlings not showing well. I know a lot of people like to train them their way too.
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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here. TIA
 Long yearlings sell very well in November.  So do 3yo's.

 
Thank you, I was leaning at selling them as long yearlings. I can't take the chance of weanlings not showing well. I know a lot of people like to train them their way too.

 weanlings don't sell well unless they are by DTF & FG and then they don't bring what the owner had hoped.....3yo's sell well if they are really going & ready to start competing @ the BFA juvenile...
 
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I've never been to the Texas Best Sale, but Donna Hanover runs a good sale.  She's honest and knows her stuff.   

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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here. TIA
 Long yearlings sell very well in November.  So do 3yo's.

 
Thank you, I was leaning at selling them as long yearlings. I can't take the chance of weanlings not showing well. I know a lot of people like to train them their way too.

 weanlings don't sell well unless they are by DTF & FG and then they don't bring what the owner had hoped.....3yo's sell well if they are really going & ready to start competing @ the BFA juvenile...
 

^^^^^this lady knows! If she told me to paint my colt green and name it a unicorn to sale it....I probably would.
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ndiehl - 2015-03-30 4:54 PM I am breeding a couple mares this year with a target of selling them at a sale/auction for young ones. I have chosen proven mares and stallions, and hope to get some colts so I don't get tempted to keep all of them. They will be paid into incentives and sales prep'ed. What is the average auction buyer looking at, should I wait until they are late yearlings/2 year olds, send them as yearlings? Barrel/race prospects are what I have coming. I have given up selling privately due to my location. Just trying to plan here. TIA
 Long yearlings sell very well in November.  So do 3yo's.

 
Thank you, I was leaning at selling them as long yearlings. I can't take the chance of weanlings not showing well. I know a lot of people like to train them their way too.
 weanlings don't sell well unless they are by DTF & FG and then they don't bring what the owner had hoped.....3yo's sell well if they are really going & ready to start competing @ the BFA juvenile...

 
^^^^^this lady knows! If she told me to paint my colt green and name it a unicorn to sale it....I probably would.

 You're too funny!!!
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My two cents is that some of the bigger sales have a list of consistent sellers that show up. Thus the buyers may look at them first and pay a little more from a "proven" breeder. Case in point the Triangle sale in Shawnee Ok. the premier breeders will have more time spent on them while in the sale ring. Once you get your name out there it will get better. I had a friend the kept bringing his young horses down here from Mn. and took nearly 3 years for the auctioneer to give his horses a better chance of a good price. I've seen where a person has brought just one proven horse to the sale and barely get a bid because the auctioneer was in such a hurry to get his buddies horse into the ring. 
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Texas Best Sale all the way for me.

I haven't put one in that sale yet since I kept my 2014 babies and sold my 2013s PT.. but I really want to put a baby in it. IF I were to sell my first down french filly, that is where I would put her. But I can't bring myself to it. lol
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for those of you that attend these sales

how much money do you need to bring with you to buy a very nice prospect?

weanling?
Yearling?
two Year old?

I am saving my pennies and want to get a nice prospect this year

 
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kwanatha - 2015-04-02 11:02 AM for those of you that attend these sales



how much money do you need to bring with you to buy a very nice prospect?



weanling?

Yearling?

two Year old?



I am saving my pennies and want to get a nice prospect this year


 

Which sale were you thinking about? I would look at the past results for an idea of what they were bringing. 
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Posted 2015-04-02 1:42 PM
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Are these foals primarily barrel racing bloodlines or quarter racing bloodlines? I'm assuming they're bred more so for barrels than racing since you're on a barrel racing site, but would someone looking for a race horse be interested in your horses?

Depending on the stallion I can go either way. These particular foals I have targeted more for barrels and race people won't like them as much. In the future I am going to stick with racing lines that can go either way (Ivory James, tres seis, Stoli, etc). The only thing I know will hinder race foals is my location, I am going to have to breed earlier in the year then I would like or risk having foals later and not as developed.

Heritage Place has several sales in OKC through out the year. More and more barrel horse people are attending them looking for prospects. There have been a few straight barrel prospects (own son of Frenchman's Guy) sold there, but I don't follow the sale to know if it would be a good sale for a barrel bred horse.

I was going to say Heritage Place too.

I agree with the above. I would seriously consider selling at the Heritage yearling sale. It's every September. They have a Fall Mixed sale in November, and then a Winter Mixed sale in January, but the big sale to sell at would be the yearling sale. Prices are very strong for a nice barrel bred prospect. I don't know what bloodlines you have, but good barrel bred prospects are bringing good money down there if they are out of known lines. There is starting to be more and more barrel people attending that sale. Kenna Squires picked up a nice filly there last time, as well as Lance Graves and several other top name people. If there is a DTF there, Lance normally is there. We buy there every year and have for the past 10+ years. Nice sale.

ETA: Check out www.heritageplace.com for a list of past sale results to get an idea.

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kwanatha - 2015-04-02 11:02 AM for those of you that attend these sales



how much money do you need to bring with you to buy a very nice prospect?



weanling?

Yearling?

two Year old?



I am saving my pennies and want to get a nice prospect this year


 
Which sale were you thinking about? I would look at the past results for an idea of what they were bringing. 

it is hard to just go by the results as there could be a good reason why some went cheap, and it might be easy to see in person. I just don't want to spend money on flights, cars, hotels and not be able to afford a really nice prospect.
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kwanatha - 2015-04-02 11:02 AM for those of you that attend these sales

how much money do you need to bring with you to buy a very nice prospect?

weanling?
Yearling?
two Year old?

I am saving my pennies and want to get a nice prospect this year

 
Which sale were you thinking about? I would look at the past results for an idea of what they were bringing. 
it is hard to just go by the results as there could be a good reason why some went cheap, and it might be easy to see in person. I just don't want to spend money on flights, cars, hotels and not be able to afford a really nice prospect.
When we post our averages....we post a median average.  which means  we throw out the high & low seller.
The high seller was a yearling for $87,000  the low seller was a yearling for $1,000.  You can look on our web page for the results & median average which will give you a good idea of what is bringing what.  On the FB page there are lot's of pictures from 2012-2014.
www.txbestsale.com

We have people who have been @ this sale since the beginning.  2009 it was the JBQH sale....then my husband & I took it over in 2012.  It has grown every year.  


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kwanatha - 2015-04-02 1:49 PM
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kwanatha - 2015-04-02 11:02 AM for those of you that attend these sales

how much money do you need to bring with you to buy a very nice prospect?

weanling?
Yearling?
two Year old?

I am saving my pennies and want to get a nice prospect this year

 
Which sale were you thinking about? I would look at the past results for an idea of what they were bringing. 
it is hard to just go by the results as there could be a good reason why some went cheap, and it might be easy to see in person. I just don't want to spend money on flights, cars, hotels and not be able to afford a really nice prospect.
When we post our averages....we post a median average.  which means  we throw out the high & low seller.
The high seller was a yearling for $87,000  the low seller was a yearling for $1,000.  You can look on our web page for the results & median average which will give you a good idea of what is bringing what.  On the FB page there are lot's of pictures from 2012-2014.
www.txbestsale.com

We have people who have been @ this sale since the beginning.  2009 it was the JBQH sale....then my husband & I took it over in 2012.  It has grown every year.  

thank you.
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crazy&lazy - 2015-04-01 11:38 AM I've never been to the Texas Best Sale, but Donna Hanover runs a good sale.  She's honest and knows her stuff.   

 Thank you  :)
 
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