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| I have a horse with some arthritis in his hocks. What therapy products out there have proven to be effective to help keep them comfortable? We are injecting and following up with adequan, but I am looking for ideas in between. Thanks! |
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| Pentosan worked far better than adequan for my horse with hock issues. Was like night and day. |
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| Game ready after competition runs, and even exercising |
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Location: Midwest | Pentosan, Sore No More Poutlice and liniment, and BOT wraps (hock and quick wraps) |
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| Thank you. would back on track be good for arthritis? It seems like adding heat to heat would be counterproductive? |
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Location: North Dakota | recarlerrab - 2015-04-02 11:13 AM Thank you. would back on track be good for arthritis? It seems like adding heat to heat would be counterproductive?
It's not about "adding heat". The BOT wraps help increase circulation which helps with the arthritis pain. |
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Location: Central Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-02 10:37 AM
Pentosan worked far better than adequan for my horse with hock issues. Was like night and day.
This, plus I alternate between BOT and magnetic therapy. |
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| Has anyone done shockwave therapy for arthritis? |
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Location: Here | Www.phtmagnetics.com and www.magnacu.com |
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Location: MI | There was a research recently published in the Equine Veterinary Journal about joint injections:
Intra-articular (IA) injection of corticosteroids with or without hyaluronate (HA) has been used for decades in equine practice for treatment of noninfectious synovitis and osteoarthritis. However, to date, no large-scale randomised equine field trials have been reported that address the supposed superior clinical efficacy of the combination of corticosteroid + HA compared with IA injection of corticosteroid alone.
You may be able to see the whole thing here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/evj.12383/abstract
I'm a nerd, I always find research on this stuff interesting :) |
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Location: Central Texas | Ridenrun4745 - 2015-04-02 2:49 PM
There was a research recently published in the Equine Veterinary Journal about joint injections:
Intra-articular (IA ) injection of corticosteroids with or without hyaluronate (HA ) has been used for decades in equine practice for treatment of noninfectious synovitis and osteoarthritis. However, to date, no large-scale randomised equine field trials have been reported that address the supposed superior clinical efficacy of the combination of corticosteroid + HA compared with IA injection of corticosteroid alone.
You may be able to see the whole thing here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/evj.12383/abstract
I'm a nerd, I always find research on this stuff interesting : )
My experience, what I have read and discussions with my vet, indicate to me that the injections can relieve the inflamation but in the long run do damage the cartilage which is what you want to protect. That's why I use the Pentosan. It's suppose to help repair the cartilage and aid in the pain and inflamation. |
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| ampratt - 2015-04-02 4:55 PM
Ridenrun4745 - 2015-04-02 2:49 PM
There was a research recently published in the Equine Veterinary Journal about joint injections:
Intra-articular (IA ) injection of corticosteroids with or without hyaluronate (HA ) has been used for decades in equine practice for treatment of noninfectious synovitis and osteoarthritis. However, to date, no large-scale randomised equine field trials have been reported that address the supposed superior clinical efficacy of the combination of corticosteroid + HA compared with IA injection of corticosteroid alone.
You may be able to see the whole thing here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/evj.12383/abstract
I'm a nerd, I always find research on this stuff interesting : )
My experience, what I have read and discussions with my vet, indicate to me that the injections can relieve the inflamation but in the long run do damage the cartilage which is what you want to protect. That's why I use the Pentosan. It's suppose to help repair the cartilage and aid in the pain and inflamation.
So you use pentosan instead of injections? |
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| recarlerrab - 2015-04-02 4:55 PM
ampratt - 2015-04-02 4:55 PM
Ridenrun4745 - 2015-04-02 2:49 PM
There was a research recently published in the Equine Veterinary Journal about joint injections:
Intra-articular (IA ) injection of corticosteroids with or without hyaluronate (HA ) has been used for decades in equine practice for treatment of noninfectious synovitis and osteoarthritis. However, to date, no large-scale randomised equine field trials have been reported that address the supposed superior clinical efficacy of the combination of corticosteroid + HA compared with IA injection of corticosteroid alone.
You may be able to see the whole thing here: http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/evj.12383/abstract
I'm a nerd, I always find research on this stuff interesting : )
My experience, what I have read and discussions with my vet, indicate to me that the injections can relieve the inflamation but in the long run do damage the cartilage which is what you want to protect. That's why I use the Pentosan. It's suppose to help repair the cartilage and aid in the pain and inflamation.
So you use pentosan instead of injections?
I used to have to get my good horse's hocks done every 6 months and he was on previcox daily. He is sound, no previcox, only when he runs and its month 8 and have not had to inject since using pentosan |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Allow the horse to be in a pasture so it can move around -- keeping an arthritic horse stalled is not good. Moving around is best. I've had several vets tell me that Cosequin is the best -- plus a 7-dose loading of Adquan followed by monthly injections. |
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Location: Wisconsin | Regarding Pentoson, is this prescription only correct? Anyone have ideas the cheapest place to order online? |
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| painthorse7796 - 2015-04-03 5:00 PM
Regarding Pentoson, is this prescription only correct? Anyone have ideas the cheapest place to order online?
You can order from horse prerace.com without prescription. I use the gold version which is glucosamine and pentosan. It's 139.00 for a 50ml bottle which is about 10 doses. |
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Location: Wisconsin | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-03 7:09 PM
painthorse7796 - 2015-04-03 5:00 PM
Regarding Pentoson, is this prescription only correct? Anyone have ideas the cheapest place to order online?
You can order from horse prerace.com without prescription. I use the gold version which is glucosamine and pentosan. It's 139.00 for a 50ml bottle which is about 10 doses.
Thank you! So I need to ask, do they recommend a loading dose for this like they do adequan? If not are you giving a horse 5cc so many days prior to racing or day of? Sorry I'm new to this |
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| painthorse7796 - 2015-04-03 6:33 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-04-03 7:09 PM
painthorse7796 - 2015-04-03 5:00 PM
Regarding Pentoson, is this prescription only correct? Anyone have ideas the cheapest place to order online?
You can order from horse prerace.com without prescription. I use the gold version which is glucosamine and pentosan. It's 139.00 for a 50ml bottle which is about 10 doses.
Thank you! So I need to ask, do they recommend a loading dose for this like they do adequan? If not are you giving a horse 5cc so many days prior to racing or day of? Sorry I'm new to this
1 shot a week for 4 weeks. Then monthly or as needed before a race. Don't give it within 3 days of a race. It's an anti coagulant. |
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Location: Texas | There is a new product out there called Precision Joint Solution. We put three of our older geldings on it about two months ago, and the difference we have seen is amazing. All three are moving much better. (They all have had multiple hock injections in their life time). We didn't see much change for the first three weeks, but after that they have just continued to improve. Very impressed with it. |
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| How much pentosan for the weekly loading dose, then how much monthly |
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| Depends on size of the horse but 5-6cc is a dose. In the Muscle. 4-7 days apart for 4 doses. THen Monthly thereafter. I give it atleast 3 daysbefore a race because it thins the blood and if a horse is a bleeder or even gets cut/hurt it can cause excessive bleeding. But on arthritis it works AWESOME. |
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