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| We have a horse that short steps when cinched up. Have tried it all- chiropractic - proper saddle fit - acupuncture - injections. Nothing has helped. Thought about making a last ditch effort and try a different saddle
Pad. What is your experience...... |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | Short steps- as in limping or what? Do you tighten him gradually?
I doubt a pad will solve this but I use a CSI to rope in. I like it and believe in the technology. The bad is they are ugly, IMO.
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| Yes, as in limping. Only does it for about 5 steps. He's Sound! Believe me, we've had him checked and injected from
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| What size and thickness did you go with? |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | Some times they tippy toe when they are cinchy- maybe that is what it is? Like they so badly want to buck but know better. But again, I doubt a pad will fix whatever is causing that. Maybe you can video it sometime. |
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Location: CTX | What kind of cinch do you use? Sounds like something is pinching him. I used to use nylon latigo's and an airflex cinch, which neither have any stretch to them. And he was getting a bit chinchy, so I changed to a mohair chinch, and he is much better now. Still can't "rip him in half" but I prefer to cinch up in stages anyway.
By the way, I only use CSI pads or Saddlerights. I really like them.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Are you cinching tight or doing it a little at a time? When I cinch up I snug it up and and then put on bit, boots and then walk them out and tighten some more, I do it in stages.
You saddle may be a bad fit too. What type of cinch are you useing?
Edited by Southtxponygirl 2015-04-03 10:14 AM
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Location: TN | I don't know that a pad will fix that but I bought my first CSI a month ago and I love it so far! My horse is striding out farther and has no dry spots. I got the 30" length and 1/2" liner. |
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| No, we cinch him
Up a little at a time - we have tried Mohair - airflex. All of it. He's not "Cinchy" never has been. This all started out of the blue. He walks out of it. Extends fine. But, for about 5 steps acts like something is pinching him. Had saddle fitted as well. Someone suggested a rib out?! Chiropractic hasn't helped. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | qhhorses - 2015-04-03 10:17 AM No, we cinch him Up a little at a time - we have tried Mohair - airflex. All of it. He's not "Cinchy" never has been. This all started out of the blue. He walks out of it. Extends fine. But, for about 5 steps acts like something is pinching him. Had saddle fitted as well. Someone suggested a rib out?! Chiropractic hasn't helped.
I once saw a broken sternum cause something like that. |
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| Have you treated him for ulcers? |
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| We are now treating for "hind gut" ulcers .....although he is never stressed at show. Never has gone off feed. Never once has refused gate or working and quiet. But, is swinging his rear in a turn (still clocking) since this all started. But, hard to say if his rear is swinging because he's not pulling with front end. Most definitely the biggest clue is as why he short steps to right for five steps after "slightly" cinching. So definitely treating for ulcers as well. |
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| qhhorses - 2015-04-03 10:46 AM
We are now treating for "hind gut" ulcers .....although he is never stressed at show. Never has gone off feed. Never once has refused gate or working and quiet. But, is swinging his rear in a turn (still clocking) since this all started. But, hard to say if his rear is swinging because he's not pulling with front end. Most definitely the biggest clue is as why he short steps to right for five steps after "slightly" cinching. So definitely treating for ulcers as well.
You say hind gut, what are you using?
If you are not using omeprazole, I would try giving it to him for a week and see if he gets better.
I have had a few that had no symptoms to ulcers, one acted colicky hauled her to the vet and within 23 hrs had a gi bleed.
One wouldn't pick up the right lead
One would pin her ears when I cinched her up
All her healthy, shiny, fit, no ribs showing, the two bottom ones the symptoms resolved with omeprazole |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | cheryl makofka - 2015-04-03 10:56 AM qhhorses - 2015-04-03 10:46 AM We are now treating for "hind gut" ulcers .....although he is never stressed at show. Never has gone off feed. Never once has refused gate or working and quiet. But, is swinging his rear in a turn (still clocking) since this all started. But, hard to say if his rear is swinging because he's not pulling with front end. Most definitely the biggest clue is as why he short steps to right for five steps after "slightly" cinching. So definitely treating for ulcers as well. You say hind gut, what are you using? If you are not using omeprazole, I would try giving it to him for a week and see if he gets better. I have had a few that had no symptoms to ulcers, one acted colicky hauled her to the vet and within 23 hrs had a gi bleed. One wouldn't pick up the right lead One would pin her ears when I cinched her up All her healthy, shiny, fit, no ribs showing, the two bottom ones the symptoms resolved with omeprazole
For once we agree 100%.  I too had a horse with NO symptoms of ulcers. Put him in a free screening of 20 horses. Only 2 had ulcers. Mine had grade 2. He was fat, shiny, ate like a lion, hauled well. I was shocked. |
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Location: Fort Bragg North Carolina | My complaints on the csi is the shortest pad they have is too long for ALL my horses and created rubbing and no other pads I own do this. Also the csi creates some funky sweat marks compared to my other pads this again on ALL my horses. Weird still haven't really figured that out |
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| qhhorses - 2015-04-03 10:17 AM
No, we cinch him
Up a little at a time - we have tried Mohair - airflex. All of it. He's not "Cinchy" never has been. This all started out of the blue. He walks out of it. Extends fine. But, for about 5 steps acts like something is pinching him. Had saddle fitted as well. Someone suggested a rib out?! Chiropractic hasn't helped.
I had a horse that did this exact same thing. Same thing tried everything. He still worked. I never found anything that fixed it. But I thought that the massages helped maybe a little. We just learned to live with it. Walked a few steps and cinched a tiny bit at a time. Made sure to tighten cinch and then walk a good ten minutes before running him.
On a side note I love my CSI pad. I wouldn't ride anything else now. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2015-04-03 10:56 AM
qhhorses - 2015-04-03 10:46 AM
We are now treating for "hind gut" ulcers .....although he is never stressed at show. Never has gone off feed. Never once has refused gate or working and quiet. But, is swinging his rear in a turn (still clocking) since this all started. But, hard to say if his rear is swinging because he's not pulling with front end. Most definitely the biggest clue is as why he short steps to right for five steps after "slightly" cinching. So definitely treating for ulcers as well.
You say hind gut, what are you using?
If you are not using omeprazole, I would try giving it to him for a week and see if he gets better.
I have had a few that had no symptoms to ulcers, one acted colicky hauled her to the vet and within 23 hrs had a gi bleed.
One wouldn't pick up the right lead
One would pin her ears when I cinched her up
All her healthy, shiny, fit, no ribs showing, the two bottom ones the symptoms resolved with omeprazole
Very interesting. Mine also was funky about his right lead. Jumped directly into left. And had to trot a few steps before getting into right lead. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | Well i will be the odd duck out....i dont like them.....my so has two of them and on both his horses he has bad rub marks.....that werent there with his previous pads......im big on air rides and i also like the ed wright pads.....mPs.i think your on the right track treating for ulcers...it cant hurt |
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Location: North Dakota | I love the CSI pads and my "flipping over cause I'm cinched horse" is very manageable now.....mmmm he's the only one I haven't treated for ulcers.
CSI pads do not cure poor saddle fit but they sure help when the saddle isn't perfect, one of the few pads I'm sold on and I've had them all. (saddleright, 5 star, CE) |
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Location: NE Oklahoma | We are BIG fans at our ranch! Have been riding them for ~10 years. Call and talk to Donna at CSI if you have any questions, she is the "go to gal". Sure doesn't hurt that thety are made in the USA ....and she will give you your money back if you don't like it, how can you beat that?!? I know they aren't cheap but I have ridden the same pad for years, occassionally will change the insert.
My hauling partner has a similiar story about her horse being so sensitive he would flinch just brushing and cinching. not really sore, just almost "over stimulated". CSI pads changed that horse completely. |
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Location: Somewhere in the middle of nowhere | I just recently bought a new CSI pad (as in 1 week ago) I got the 3/4" and I think my horse hates it. He stomps his back foot and also tries to nip at me....he never did that before. Anyone else have that issue. My other pad was just an older wool pad, nothing special but it was only 1/2" thick. |
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| I gave all my other pads away and went to strictly CSI. Love them! If you're having problems, make sure you know how to position it on your horses back, and make sure the pad isn't too thick or too thin. Donna at CSI can help you with this. |
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| I had a CSI and loved it-wish I still had it. Do you pick up horse's front legs and stretch them some before walking him off? Do this after you have the saddle cinched where you intend to ride. Don't know if it will help, but my mare will stretch herself about half the time when i pick up a front leg to stretch her. |
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| I bought one when they were fairly new to the market. My horse hated it. At that time they were only offering the foam type backing so maybe that was why. |
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