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Location: Kansas | I have a friend who dropped 2 fillies off at my place for me to get ready for her to sell at an auction.....the 2 year is smaller than the yearling, and both look almost like weanlings. I've been feeding them both forco and ultium along with alfalfa....but I almost feel sorry for the girls! Would it have affected both of their growth? |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | I have seen it go both ways. Some really grow and blossom at 5 and some never do. I wish that was helpful. I think proper nutrition of the mare and baby are imperitive for bloomy babies. |
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| They could both be stunted if both were on the same feeding program for all their lives. Perhaps after seeing how the 2 year old didn't grow, she fed the yearling more and that is why it is the bigger of the two. |
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Location: Kansas | TurnLane - 2015-04-07 10:40 AM I have seen it go both ways. Some really grow and blossom at 5 and some never do. I wish that was helpful. I think proper nutrition of the mare and baby are imperitive for bloomy babies.
kind of what I was thinking....shame, they are both such beautiful colorful fillies! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Do you have any pictures? |
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Location: Kansas | The bay roan is a yearling, the dun is a 2 year old.
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Location: Florida.. | wow! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-04-07 1:37 PM The bay roan is a yearling, the dun is a 2 year old.
They both look pretty little, If the mother was not getting the right feed when they were carring the babys it could have affected their growth. They do look in pretty good flesh, maybe but them on a good feeding program and just go from there. What type of sale is the owner wanting to put them in? And type of breeding are they? |
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Location: Kansas | Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-07 1:46 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-04-07 1:37 PM The bay roan is a yearling, the dun is a 2 year old. They both look pretty little, If the mother was not getting the right feed when they were carring the babys it could have affected their growth. They do look in pretty good flesh, maybe but them on a good feeding program and just go from there. What type of sale is the owner wanting to put them in? And type of breeding are they?
They are really little in person, but super sweet girls. They follow my daughter and I everywhere. They aren't skinny by any means, just a tad ribby, just small. The dun is registered, she is blue valentine/driftwood bred...the roan is by the same sire, out of a tee jay badger bred mare. She doesn't have papers back on her yet.
She is selling them at some dinky spring sale next weekend, which I told her she won't get what she wants out of them...but not my fillies. |
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Location: Florida.. | They dont appear skinny but they dont look healthy or like they were fed well nutritionally.. to me from the photos.. not neglected by any means but not how I like them to look |
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Location: Kansas | No I don't believe they were neglected at all, nutritionally....they aren't where they should be at all for their ages. |
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Location: Florida.. | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-04-07 2:58 PM No I don't believe they were neglected at all, nutritionally....they aren't where they should be at all for their ages.
exactly what i mean to. |
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| I bought a yearling filly early in her yearling year whose dam and she had been starved from day one. Before the summer was over she was winning halter classes left and right. She matured at 15.3 and continued to win at halter and pleasure. |
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Location: IN MY OWN LITTLE WORLD AT LEAST THEY KNOW ME HERE | They look wormy. I'D check when n possible worm again.
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | I don't know the care of the horses before but consider this...
The first colt I had and sold looked horrible his yearling year and start of his 2 year old year. People thought he wouldn't grow.... Fast forward that summer and he blossomed into something nice. Everyone was shocked, I have his older brother and he did the same thing (so I suspected it), and is 5 and just keeps growing (he's 15.3 and still going... both his parents were 15 hands). Now the 2 year old little brother is behind their other one they have (both by my stud) I keep telling the new owner not to worry because he looks like a yearling (literally my yearling is bigger). They always got everything they needed with each owner and they just matured late. It's a line in the dam side I figure... for mine. I know they look scraggly now but some are just late bloomers.
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Location: Kansas | I wormed both when they got here with strongdid. I'm going to worm with Ivermectin here in a week. Both are getting 4lbs each of ultium a day, along with forco and a flake of alfalfa morning/evening.
Both have never had their feet done, and she isn't going to pay the farrier when he comes to trim them. I hate saying this, but I feel like I'm being taken advantage of, as she isn't putting forth any effort to pay for their feed, hay, wormer, or even a $30 trim. |
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| hoofs_in_motion - 2015-04-08 7:57 AM I wormed both when they got here with strongdid. I'm going to worm with Ivermectin here in a week. Both are getting 4lbs each of ultium a day, along with forco and a flake of alfalfa morning/evening.
Both have never had their feet done, and she isn't going to pay the farrier when he comes to trim them. I hate saying this, but I feel like I'm being taken advantage of, as she isn't putting forth any effort to pay for their feed, hay, wormer, or even a $30 trim.
Ya think??? Yeah I do!! Is she paying you or is it on commission... You are probably coming out on the short end of that stick... Good luck. |
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Location: Kansas | I'm not getting any money out of this, I was just trying to be a nice friend and help out.....but not at the expense of myself. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-04-08 8:38 AM I'm not getting any money out of this, I was just trying to be a nice friend and help out.....but not at the expense of myself.
Well heck if you are the one puting the money into these babys and the owner is not paying you to do all the work and expects you to do all the work and use your own money for HER horses I would be telling her to pick them back up. There is no way that these horses will bring any kind of money as small as they are for their age. And you will be out what you put in to them. |
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Location: Kansas | well i texted her asking her to pick the fillies up, no response.....went to facebook, she blocked me. I'm going by her house this evening. |
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Location: SE KS | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-04-09 9:49 AM
well i texted her asking her to pick the fillies up, no response.....went to facebook, she blocked me. I'm going by her house this evening.
What a nice "friend" she is. Sorry for your trouble!! |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-04-09 9:49 AM well i texted her asking her to pick the fillies up, no response.....went to facebook, she blocked me. I'm going by her house this evening.
If you can't get a hold of her. I would take that as a "dump off" or "surendered" to you.
I wouldn't give her a penny of whatever they bring. Give her 24 hours to get them. If she doesn't come get them by then. Call the local sheriff. Tell them the story and ask what you need to do with the horses.
He/she may say keep them and sell them or he may drop them off at her house and possible charge her a fine for him having to drop them off.
Hope you have all your reciepts from feed. Looks like it will turn into more than just helping her out. People who take advantage of others good hearts make me upset... Hope they end up somewhere they are wanted. Sad stuff. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Was she thinking that you were suppose to haul them to the sale too?  |
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Location: Kansas | IRunOnFaith - 2015-04-09 2:35 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-04-09 9:49 AM well i texted her asking her to pick the fillies up, no response.....went to facebook, she blocked me. I'm going by her house this evening. If you can't get a hold of her. I would take that as a "dump off" or "surendered" to you.
I wouldn't give her a penny of whatever they bring. Give her 24 hours to get them. If she doesn't come get them by then. Call the local sheriff. Tell them the story and ask what you need to do with the horses.
He/she may say keep them and sell them or he may drop them off at her house and possible charge her a fine for him having to drop them off.
Hope you have all your reciepts from feed. Looks like it will turn into more than just helping her out. People who take advantage of others good hearts make me upset... Hope they end up somewhere they are wanted. Sad stuff.
Morally, I can not sell them, and won't. I will be loading them up and dropping them off on her property this evening, I'll even set up some panels if I need too. I've gone through quite a bit of ultium, and alfalfa. I feel bad, but I should no have to pay for someone elses horses. I have my own to care for. |
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| I'd turn her in for animal neglect if she's had them from birth... obviously she neglected to give them basic needs...  But thats just me. |
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Location: The best kept secret in TX | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-04-09 2:58 PM IRunOnFaith - 2015-04-09 2:35 PM hoofs_in_motion - 2015-04-09 9:49 AM well i texted her asking her to pick the fillies up, no response.....went to facebook, she blocked me. I'm going by her house this evening. If you can't get a hold of her. I would take that as a "dump off" or "surendered" to you.
I wouldn't give her a penny of whatever they bring. Give her 24 hours to get them. If she doesn't come get them by then. Call the local sheriff. Tell them the story and ask what you need to do with the horses.
He/she may say keep them and sell them or he may drop them off at her house and possible charge her a fine for him having to drop them off.
Hope you have all your reciepts from feed. Looks like it will turn into more than just helping her out. People who take advantage of others good hearts make me upset... Hope they end up somewhere they are wanted. Sad stuff.
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Location: Texas | I wish you were closer, I'd come get the bay roan! I will give any horse a fighting chance. It's amazing what some TLC and basic foundation will do for a colt. |
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Location: ND | I honestly doubt the colts are stunted. Given time, good feed & wormer they will both snap back fine as their condition is a long ways from severe neglect. Here's a gelding I bought as a coming 3 year old, barely 14 hands & gangly.....and pictures of him last year at 7, he's about 15.2 & SOLID.
Did you have details worked out with your "friend" before agreeing to get the fillies ready for the sale? In all reality it should have been discussed what you would be doing to prep them & what her costs would be. She may have thought you where wanting to take them simply because it's something you'd enjoy doing & was shocked/mad when all of a sudden you wanted money.
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