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| I am by no means an expert, but have been around horses my whole life, and know a good bit. It drives me insane to see people with no experience go to a sale barn and buy an untouched two year old because they think it's easy. I saw a girl on facebook asking for advice on a horse page. She said she had just bought a two year old from a sale barn and he has a bad biting issue, and tries to kick her, and she is completely clueless. So the comments go on and someone tells her to lunge, she didn't know what that meant, there were also some ridiculous comments and some very odd techniques, like one, bite it back in the neck. Okay.. Someone else said the horse needs it's teeth floated and it's way of showing that it's teeth hurt is to bite her. lol
JMO- If you know nothing about horses, don't buy a young one! And second, don't give advice unless you know what on Earth you're talking about.
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Location: Kansas | o well.....let her get hurt, then she will realize how "cute" her "baby" is |
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| I have this friend. Her goal in life is to become a horse trader. She manages to find every free or cheap horse within a 3 hour radius of us. She's always planning to "fix them up and sell them." The problem is, she has absolutely no idea what she's doing and she makes me want to pull my hair out. Her evaluation of a horse is only that it's cheap, doesn't matter what it looks like, if it's registered or if it's broke. Every single horse she has gotten (she has owned horses since last September) has turned into hateful and disrespectful, even if it didn't start out that way. She has yet to figure out that the common denominator with that is her. I've went over and helped her work with horses and have taken her to a clinic. She refuses to continue using what she's learned. So now I just nod my head and agree with whatever crazy idea she has because I'm tired of correcting everything she says. |
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| MissouriJen - 2015-04-07 3:09 PM I have this friend. Her goal in life is to become a horse trader. She manages to find every free or cheap horse within a 3 hour radius of us. She's always planning to "fix them up and sell them." The problem is, she has absolutely no idea what she's doing and she makes me want to pull my hair out. Her evaluation of a horse is only that it's cheap, doesn't matter what it looks like, if it's registered or if it's broke. Every single horse she has gotten (she has owned horses since last September) has turned into hateful and disrespectful, even if it didn't start out that way. She has yet to figure out that the common denominator with that is her. I've went over and helped her work with horses and have taken her to a clinic. She refuses to continue using what she's learned. So now I just nod my head and agree with whatever crazy idea she has because I'm tired of correcting everything she says. A good friend tells a friend what they NEED to hear. Not what they WANT to hear. No offense intended
If she means anything to you, you'd better give her the cold hard run down before her, a horse or both get hurt or worse...
I have a now 3 year old that I've owned since 9 months. . . never once considered attempting it myself. If she won't listen to reason I couldn't be around her... but then. Ignorance is one thing, stupid is another and I can't be around stupid. It chaffes me
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Location: Phoenix | OMG some of those Facebook horse groups… You really get some interesting horse people...mostly the ones who didn't grow up with horses and don't have a clue!!!
There was a lady at our barn and she was getting back into horses so she proceeds to buy this pregnant, unregistered TB mare who she continues to Breed because she is related to California Chrome and then she was trying to ride the green broke 5 Yo son of the mare...she rides western but she had the horse broke English....oh boy. It was a continuous train wreck. She was so cared of both horses. They were just looking for direction--for a leader!! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | hammer_time - 2015-04-07 3:19 PM OMG some of those Facebook horse groups… You really get some interesting horse people...mostly the ones who didn't grow up with horses and don't have a clue!!!
There was a lady at our barn and she was getting back into horses so she proceeds to buy this pregnant, unregistered TB mare who she continues to Breed because she is related to California Chrome and then she was trying to ride the green broke 5 Yo son of the mare...she rides western but she had the horse broke English....oh boy. It was a continuous train wreck. She was so cared of both horses. They were just looking for direction--for a leader!!
LOL. How does she know that the mare is related to CC if she's not register.  |
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| americanpride08 - 2015-04-07 3:14 PM MissouriJen - 2015-04-07 3:09 PM I have this friend. Her goal in life is to become a horse trader. She manages to find every free or cheap horse within a 3 hour radius of us. She's always planning to "fix them up and sell them." The problem is, she has absolutely no idea what she's doing and she makes me want to pull my hair out. Her evaluation of a horse is only that it's cheap, doesn't matter what it looks like, if it's registered or if it's broke. Every single horse she has gotten (she has owned horses since last September) has turned into hateful and disrespectful, even if it didn't start out that way. She has yet to figure out that the common denominator with that is her. I've went over and helped her work with horses and have taken her to a clinic. She refuses to continue using what she's learned. So now I just nod my head and agree with whatever crazy idea she has because I'm tired of correcting everything she says. A good friend tells a friend what they NEED to hear. Not what they WANT to hear. No offense intended
If she means anything to you, you'd better give her the cold hard run down before her, a horse or both get hurt or worse...
I have a now 3 year old that I've owned since 9 months. . . never once considered attempting it myself. If she won't listen to reason I couldn't be around her... but then. Ignorance is one thing, stupid is another and I can't be around stupid. It chaffes me
I'm using the term friend here pretty loosely. Plus, I've tried telling her about a million times what would work for her. I've invested money and time trying to help. For my own sanity, I've quit giving advice. |
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Location: North Dakota | Oh boy this chaps my khakis to no end! My dad is one of those people who thinks, even after owning horses as a kid and rodeoing for several years, that training horses is easy. When my sister was 13 and wanted a horse, he found a barely halter broke 6 year old for sale. I freaked and said there was NO WAY that would EVER work. His exact words "it'll be a project." I said if he didn't want his daughter dead or hurt he better forget he ever saw that horse. She was a total beginner and I have NO experience breaking horses and have no desire to. |
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| If I had it my way, everyone should have like a driver's Ed class but horse style where everybody has to read "The Complete Horse Owner's Manual" and watch the whole Clinton Anderson Series before you could buy your first horse at a Sale Barn!! |
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| IowaCanChaser - 2015-04-07 3:26 PM
If I had it my way, everyone should have like a driver's Ed class but horse style where everybody has to read "The Complete Horse Owner's Manual" and watch the whole Clinton Anderson Series before you could buy your first horse at a Sale Barn!!
 ive never read that nor watched much clinton anderson. Thats an issue in its self anymore, people are so set on certen methods, but 2+3=5 as dose 1+4=5 heck 6-1=5 too lol
I totaly get what you are saying, i removed my self from pretty much all FB horse pages, life is so much better lol.
You can't control what people do, and honistly as long as the horse is fed and not abused they have things pretty great compared to some. Its a hard to see potential be wasted but you can only do so much espicaly with deff ears. |
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Location: Phoenix | Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-07 1:30 PM hammer_time - 2015-04-07 3:19 PM OMG some of those Facebook horse groups… You really get some interesting horse people...mostly the ones who didn't grow up with horses and don't have a clue!!!
There was a lady at our barn and she was getting back into horses so she proceeds to buy this pregnant, unregistered TB mare who she continues to Breed because she is related to California Chrome and then she was trying to ride the green broke 5 Yo son of the mare...she rides western but she had the horse broke English....oh boy. It was a continuous train wreck. She was so cared of both horses. They were just looking for direction--for a leader!! LOL. How does she know that the mare is related to CC if she's not register.
Right? She sent him off to some hunter jumper place for training and there's one up the road but decided not to take him to that place because there was a saguaro cactus in the "middle of the arena". A friend and I rode by and the saguaro was strategically placed in the jumping arena--it was completely fine. She's nutso. Completely granola-y. She would lunge this young horse for 5 minutes a day and then be done. We tried going on a trail ride with her on the older mare and she was just WAITING for the horse to do something but she never did! Nonetheless, we got 3 blocks up the road before she wanted to call it quits and head back. We were like 1/10th of the way done for a short trail ride. She was stunned that I could get On my horse from the right side. Yikes.... |
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Location: Willows, CA | Years ago, Ray Hunt was having a horsemanship clinic just a few miles from our little Northern CA town. Ray was a very long time friend and I always rode with him if he was close. My wife and I invited a friend to go with us and she said that she had been to one before so did not think he had any more to offer her. Over the years I had the pleasure of spending more days with Ray than I can count from California to Texas, from Idaho to New Mexico, and I learned more from him every time we were together than I had learned the last time. You are just wasting your time with some people. |
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| So I totally get what you girls are saying and I hope lightening doesn't strike me but I agree with Itsme. At some point we all start somewhere. If a horse could talk, I'd bet he'd rather go with the dumb human who wants to try than be shot in the head. Just my opinion. |
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| RidenFly - 2015-04-07 6:47 PM
So I totally get what you girls are saying and I hope lightening doesn't strike me but I agree with Itsme. At some point we all start somewhere. If a horse could talk, I'd bet he'd rather go with the dumb human who wants to try than be shot in the head. Just my opinion.
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Location: Kansas | Only an experienced rider should be training a young horse. I've seen too many "inexperienced" wind up in the emergency room including myself way back when.
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| IowaCanChaser - 2015-04-07 4:26 PM If I had it my way, everyone should have like a driver's Ed class but horse style where everybody has to read "The Complete Horse Owner's Manual" and watch the whole Clinton Anderson Series before you could buy your first horse at a Sale Barn!!
Not sure that would work anyway... I had a friend that went to every clinic available read every book... NO videos at the time... and still should NEVER have owned a horse!! BUT yep she bought herself a wild a$$ 2 yr old stud to train...
Hauled him home in MY horse trailer tore the **** out of it and DIDn't ASK to use it in the first place... AND of course didn't do any repairs either... I was unavailable due to surgery when she took it from the barn...
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| I share similar frustrations with people that want to own horses but do not care to educate themselves. I will be the first to say I learn new things all the time about how to better care for my horses and how to be a better horsewoman. I realize that we all need to start somewhere but for petes sake take the time to do some research, talk to others, consult a vet, read a book, get on the internet, something. I get frusterated to see horses suffer in the care of people who simply do not know any better, or people get themselves hurt. These days there isnt much of an excuse for that because our resorces are virtually unlimited. |
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Location: N Texas | I try to not read a lot of those posts on Facebook groups because of all the idiots who think they're giving good advice. The other day a girl was asking for advice because she just bought her first horse, a young unbroke stud, and he was kicking her and didn't have any manners. Pretty much everybody told her to sell it immediately and get an older, broke horse, so she at least got good advice there.
Another time, someone was asking about breaking a horse, and someone told them to tie tires to the saddle so that it would wear itself out if it bucked.
Several years ago someone told me that if I wanted to break a horse and was afraid of it bucking, to take it into a pond and then get on it, because they can't buck in water.
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| Gunner11 - 2015-04-08 8:10 AM
I try to not read a lot of those posts on Facebook groups because of all the idiots who think they're giving good advice. The other day a girl was asking for advice because she just bought her first horse, a young unbroke stud, and he was kicking her and didn't have any manners. Pretty much everybody told her to sell it immediately and get an older, broke horse, so she at least got good advice there.
Another time, someone was asking about breaking a horse, and someone told them to tie tires to the saddle so that it would wear itself out if it bucked.
Several years ago someone told me that if I wanted to break a horse and was afraid of it bucking, to take it into a pond and then get on it, because they can't buck in water.
Seriously, some of the stuff people come up with makes me
I watched a Monty Robert tv show once. He had this wold dummy thing, that was put on in stages the thing even had a head and legs. I think green people who have no knowledge grab on to the first "professional" they here about, and thing that makes "sence" to them. Like it makes sence to put on a test pilot first so you dont get hurt right? If i knew nothing that might really interest me.
I think with so many professionals that are making shows and pushing thier methods a lot of actual hard work earned horseman ship is getting lost. |
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Location: North Dakota | Facebook is full of crazies for sure!!! I believe everyone has to start somewhere! Lots of young horses need homes or they are taking a ride to Mexico!!!!!! We all learn by making mistakes!!! |
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Location: Lost in the swamps | I see It all the time!green horse green ride=accident waiting to happen! Working on breaking a 2 yr old right now that the owner bough "because he was beautiful!" He's also disrespectful, pushy and lazy! She has no clue what she had gotten herself into. She says she worked on a ranch in Texas. But after giving her a few lesson after she had her other new 14 yr old horse freakout and side pass on her she admitted she rode older "well broke dead heads". Not anything with spunk. I laughed and shook my head! A for effort, f for not doing your homework. I understand everyone had to start somewhere, but at least learn under an instructor and take lessons before you get into a major monetary and timely invest of breaking and training yourself and a green horse that is possibly not a good match. |
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