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The officer, Michael T. Slager, had said he feared for his life because the man took his stun gun in a scuffle after a traffic stop on Saturday. A video, however, shows the officer firing eight times as the man fled. The state charges were announced in a news conference Tuesday evening.
The shooting in North Charleston comes on the heels of high-profile incidents of police officers using lethal force in New York, Cleveland, Ferguson, Mo., and elsewhere around the country. The deaths have sparked a national debate over whether police are too quick to use force, particularly in cases involving black men. |
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Location: Kansas | I saw this story on FOX this morning. The man had been in the Coast Guard at one time and did have a warrant out for not paying child support. Shooting this man in the back was despicable. I saw his brother and mother interviewed. They were very decent people who were totally devastated. His broken-hearted brother said most police officers were good people but not all of them......obvioiusly. The officer was charged with murder. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | All this stuff is just a harbinger of things to come. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I'm really worried about all the hate when O has to leave office and let the new President in.. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | The country is full of deepening divisions between groups. White versus Black. White versus Hispanic. Men vs women. Straight vs gay. "Haves" vs "have-nots". Religious vs secular. Public sector vs private sector. Law enforcement vs certain "communities". Climate change proponents, versus climate change skeptics. Democrat vs Republican. Liberal vs conservative vs libertarian.
People no longer trust government. More and more people are preparing for a "re-set", whether it is due to war or financial collapse, or even something secondary to a terrorist act. Survivalism is on the rise.
All these "incidents", such as this man's apparent murder, are slowly contributing to what we are seeing......and what is that? Chaos. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | What I don't understand is why does a 50 yr old run from the law geez for child support warrant.....and why a cop thinks he has to kill him literally gunning him down. Now we have a dead father of 4 leaving a girlfriend and a wife 8 months pregnant with no husband or a father for their unborn child.
Sadly 2 wrongs don't make a right......
And yes I question would this be as big of a media event if the victim was white as well as the cop.
In the end it should not be about color but another human killed another wrongfully. |
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| What i dont understand is why was it legal up to a couple years ago to stop and frisk someone for no reason at all in NY? Why do cops harass law abiding citizens and trample our constitution then get support from their union and the sheeple? |
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| Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-08 8:38 PM
I'm really worried about all the hate when O has to leave office and let the new President in..
So much for having the first "black" president to ease racial tension - it's far worse now than ever. |
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Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-08 8:38 PM
I'm really worried about all the hate when O has to leave office and let the new President in..
- it's far worse now than ever.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | arion - 2015-04-09 7:32 AM Griz - 2015-04-09 5:39 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-08 8:38 PM I'm really worried about all the hate when O has to leave office and let the new President in.. - it's far worse now than ever. No it's not
Please explain why you don't think it is worse Arion?
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| 3canstorun - 2015-04-09 7:12 AM
arion - 2015-04-09 7:32 AM Griz - 2015-04-09 5:39 AM Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-08 8:38 PM I'm really worried about all the hate when O has to leave office and let the new President in.. - it's far worse now than ever. No it's not
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| They are going to make this about color and I can't really blame them. However, this isn't about color. That cop would have shot anyone running away because we are becoming a society focused on control. Each special interest group wants control over the other and if you don't see something the way the "crowd" wants you to... its elimination time. This cop is a disgrace and a manifistation of the times we're in as a society.
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Location: The edge of no where | Absolutely not defending the cop.... but this guy obviously got into a physical altercation with him and took his stun gun and then he ran. What did he think was going to happen? |
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Location: Kansas | The man who took the video has stepped forth. I picture myself not focusing on taking the video but yelling at the cop to please stop shooting. The spectre is horrifying and the video-taker was also a black man. Who knows, maybe he was afraid the officer would shoot him too. |
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Location: Kansas | MS2011 - 2015-04-09 8:21 AM Absolutely not defending the cop.... but this guy obviously got into a physical altercation with him and took his stun gun and then he ran. What did he think was going to happen?
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| Frodo - 2015-04-10 6:25 AM MS2011 - 2015-04-09 8:21 AM Absolutely not defending the cop.... but this guy obviously got into a physical altercation with him and took his stun gun and then he ran. What did he think was going to happen? Doubt he expected to get shot in the back.
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Location: Midwest | MS2011 - 2015-04-09 8:21 AM Absolutely not defending the cop.... but this guy obviously got into a physical altercation with him and took his stun gun and then he ran. What did he think was going to happen?
Video does not show the man taking his stun gun.
He was tasered though (the dead man) before he turned to run away.
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Location: The edge of no where | barrelracr131 - 2015-04-09 8:36 AM MS2011 - 2015-04-09 8:21 AM Absolutely not defending the cop.... but this guy obviously got into a physical altercation with him and took his stun gun and then he ran. What did he think was going to happen? Video does not show the man taking his stun gun.
He was tasered though (the dead man) before he turned to run away.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-c...
I haven't watched the video, I just read the article. I'm NOT excusing the cop at all, I am relieved they are choosing to charge him with murder.
The point I was trying to make is this, he got into a physical altercation with the cop..... When did it become ok to physically attack law officers (or anyone else)? |
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| Here's my thing... at what point did you see him or that cop touch each other before he took off running??? He looked to be about 4+ feet away from the officer BEFORE he took off running... and I'm sorry. But a stun gun, rubber bullets, mace... all those are tools to TAKE SOMEONE ALIVE... use them. Whats the point of having all that if you're going to be trigger happy in unwarranted situations.
The man paid with his life. . . HIS LIFE. I would never assault an officer, but to think that if I RAN I would be SHOT. . . that's sickening.
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Griz - 2015-04-09 5:39 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-08 8:38 PM
I'm really worried about all the hate when O has to leave office and let the new President in..
- it's far worse now than ever.
No it's not
It's worse than it's been in my lifetime. We've been set back 50 years. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | barrelracr131 - 2015-04-09 8:18 AM People should be outraged, but not because a white man shot a black man...
Agreed. My husband and I argued over this watching the news this morning. He wanted to automatically take the cop's side, "respect for authority" and all that. Not worth killing over. And where do we live again? I have mouthed off to a-hole cops...should they have shot me for my disrespect? What are you supposed to do when the LEOs are wrong, just meekly submit or pay with your life? We do not need to cross that line. Ever. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | If you watch the video, you will see that the cop walks BACK to where he was standing and picks up an item (assumed to be a taser/stun gun) and walks over to the body and drops it by the man's side. Additionally, until the video surfaced the cop made the statement that he "feared" for his life.......really don't understand HOW a man running FROM you, could harm you?????? This cop needs to be found guilty of murder......if he is found guilty, there won't be any riots....but if he isn't..........then watch out!!! |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | There are some things that are troubling about all of this.
1. Why would you automatically run from the police? I don't understand it at all. Is is a cultural thing, is it a lack of respect?
2. Why would a police man shoot someone in the back? The man obviously didn't have any wounds on him where there had been an altercation. Semi-justifying the action.
The outrage should be that a man running (no matter his color) was gunned down. He may have been ugly to the officer, swung at him, spit on him, who knows. But, he did not deserve this. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | 3canstorun - 2015-04-09 9:21 AM
There are some things that are troubling about all of this.
1. Why would you automatically run from the police? I don't understand it at all. Is is a cultural thing, is it a lack of respect?
2. Why would a police man shoot someone in the back? The man obviously didn't have any wounds on him where there had been an altercation. Semi-justifying the action.
The outrage should be that a man running (no matter his color) was gunned down. He may have been ugly to the officer, swung at him, spit on him, who knows. But, he did not deserve this.
I suspect there will be a whole lot more running away from cops for a while after seeing this. |
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| Youtube search "black guy arrested drinking tea" and see how these people are treated.
If you dont submit to my authority whether its lawful or not im going to arrest you and cost you a bunch of money and your dignity while getting support from my union and fellow officers. This crap HAS to stop.
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Because I was not a Socialist.
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Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Bear - 2015-04-09 10:32 AM 3canstorun - 2015-04-09 9:21 AM There are some things that are troubling about all of this.
1. Why would you automatically run from the police? I don't understand it at all. Is is a cultural thing, is it a lack of respect?
2. Why would a police man shoot someone in the back? The man obviously didn't have any wounds on him where there had been an altercation. Semi-justifying the action.
The outrage should be that a man running (no matter his color) was gunned down. He may have been ugly to the officer, swung at him, spit on him, who knows. But, he did not deserve this. I suspect there will be a whole lot more running away from cops for a while after seeing this.
But common sense would tell you not to run, so this wouldn't happen to you. To use this as an example not to run. That is what makes it so strange to me.
I believe (in my area), that the fact that they start officers out at $25K per year has a lot to do with the type of people law enforcement attracts. I have the utmost respect for service people, but obviously there is a huge problem within the system. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Itsme - 2015-04-09 10:34 AM Youtube search "black guy arrested drinking tea" and see how these people are treated. If you dont submit to my authority whether its lawful or not im going to arrest you and cost you a bunch of money and your dignity while getting support from my union and fellow officers. This crap HAS to stop.
I just watched and read. His lawyers stated, he was asked by the plain clothes officer to give him the can of tea. He refused to give the can of tea to the officer. The officer was plain clothes so that he could check drinking and driving, open container law. He was also asked to leave the premise. He also refused to do that.
Then the officer manhandled him and arrested him. So, who was right and who was wrong? Was the man refusing to get his can of tea checked wrong? If he didn't have anything to hide, why didn't he just give it to the officer? Why didn't he leave the premise when asked? To me refusing would be plain disrespect for the law.
However, I do agree with your statement that unions, etc. are a big part of the blame for covering for bad officers. |
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Location: North Dakota | I believe the problem is the lack of respect people have in general in this generation. I also believe that most people who become cops do so to feel MORE POWERFUL, they need to feel IN CHARGE and get off on it!!!! Even I have been treated like crap by a cop and I have never even been stopped for speeding or even a parking ticket. I believe body cameras should be on all cops and also on every street corner!!!!!!!! This will put an end to cops abusing power but also a high percent of crime will stop if crooks know cameras are everywhere!!!!! |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | barrelracr131 - 2015-04-09 8:52 AM First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | 3canstorun - 2015-04-09 9:14 AM Itsme - 2015-04-09 10:34 AM Youtube search "black guy arrested drinking tea" and see how these people are treated. If you dont submit to my authority whether its lawful or not im going to arrest you and cost you a bunch of money and your dignity while getting support from my union and fellow officers. This crap HAS to stop. I just watched and read. His lawyers stated, he was asked by the plain clothes officer to give him the can of tea. He refused to give the can of tea to the officer. The officer was plain clothes so that he could check drinking and driving, open container law. He was also asked to leave the premise. He also refused to do that.
Then the officer manhandled him and arrested him. So, who was right and who was wrong? Was the man refusing to get his can of tea checked wrong? If he didn't have anything to hide, why didn't he just give it to the officer? Why didn't he leave the premise when asked? To me refusing would be plain disrespect for the law.
However, I do agree with your statement that unions, etc. are a big part of the blame for covering for bad officers.
Give people an inch & they take a mile. We have Constitutional laws prohibiting unlawful search & seizure...trouble is, too many citizens take the stance of, "If I don't have anything to hide...then why not allow an illegal search?". THIS is why, suddenly the 'law' feels 'entitled' to abuse their position due to ignorance of the law.
It's our duty to keep leo's honest...we do that by asserting our rights every chance we get. Respect goes both ways.
Aside from that...there's not one single citizen that hasn't broken a law...make us all guilty & we lose everything. We have too many laws. It's out of control. The KGB started this way, too and it's very scary.
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| angelica - 2015-04-09 10:19 AM
I believe the problem is the lack of respect people have in general in this generation. I also believe that most people who become cops do so to feel MORE POWERFUL, they need to feel IN CHARGE and get off on it!!!! Even I have been treated like crap by a cop and I have never even been stopped for speeding or even a parking ticket. I believe body cameras should be on all cops and also on every street corner!!!!!!!! This will put an end to cops abusing power but also a high percent of crime will stop if crooks know cameras are everywhere!!!!!
Cameras in the police car and on police won't be that helpful if the people that have them are bad. They just say, oh sorry the camera was off/malfunctioned. That has happened around here several times. |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2015-04-09 8:55 AM
arion - 2015-04-09 6:32 AM
Griz - 2015-04-09 5:39 AM
Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-08 8:38 PM
I'm really worried about all the hate when O has to leave office and let the new President in..
- it's far worse now than ever.
No it's not
It's worse than it's been in my lifetime. We've been set back 50 years.
AMEN, Ok, it may not be worse than EVER but it is definately WAY WORSE than it has EVER been in MY lifetime. |
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| angelica - 2015-04-09 10:19 AM I believe the problem is the lack of respect people have in general in this generation. I also believe that most people who become cops do so to feel MORE POWERFUL, they need to feel IN CHARGE and get off on it!!!! Even I have been treated like crap by a cop and I have never even been stopped for speeding or even a parking ticket. I believe body cameras should be on all cops and also on every street corner!!!!!!!! This will put an end to cops abusing power but also a high percent of crime will stop if crooks know cameras are everywhere!!!!!
Power complexs... they're a vicious cycle. We should be scared for our teenagers, our children. How many children run from discipline or think it funny to disrespect a cop. It's one thing if they are threatening your life.. but this makes you fear for yourself and those you love being on the wrong side of someone with POWER OVER YOUR LIFE.
like those poor people are that tragic flight in germany. . . this is all about power. And the people need to start showing theirs before we no longer have any. |
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| barrelracr131 - 2015-04-09 8:18 AM People should be outraged, but not because a white man shot a black man...
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Look at it this way. People have a fight or flight response to perceived danger, just like animals do. If you thought someone was about to do something bad to you, how many of you would stand quietly and allow it to happen? I'm sure the dude thought running was the safer course of action. A lot of black folks and even some of other races are raised being told that the cops are something to fear and are out to get them. It's ingrained by adulthood. He wasn't thinking, he was reacting to perceived danger and if I was a police person, I had way rather someone run than try to kill me. The officer in this video had no business in this profession, and people like him are what makes it so hard for the good guys to do their jobs. We can't tolerate this stuff or we will all be in danger. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I just heard that this is not the first time the shot man had a run in with this officer. The first time was 2 years ago..
I hope that I heard this right.
Edit to ad: the shot man was scared of this officer too, so maybe thats why he ran from him.
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I honestly think BETTER back ground checks and personality tests should be conducted for hiring law enforcement. Also more schooling on the law. I think there are cops that take advantage our their thought "power" and think their invisible. It didn't even seem to faze that cop when he shot that man. I know many great cops, but I know in a small town like mine...not a lot of thorough screening is done. It more comes down to who you know. I have a friend with PTSD from serving that honestly, I don't think he should be a cop from behavior ive seen out of him. Just saying. Better screening for people we are allowing to conduct the law. KNOW the laws and what to do in a situation. That is all.
And no disrespect toward people that are cops! I don't envy your job and many are wonderful.
Although what is being posted about is an EXTREME to this. It comes down to KNOWING the law. As an officer arrests a fireman while proving patient care, comprising a patient. Which is against the law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO36cUixLUY
148. (a ) (1 ) Every person who willfully resists, delays, or
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discharge any duty of his or her office or employment, when no other
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| streakysox - 2015-04-09 1:05 PM
cn1705 - 2015-04-09 11:15 AM
I honestly think BETTER back ground checks and personality tests should be conducted for hiring law enforcement. Also more schooling on the law. I think there are cops that take advantage our their thought "power" and think their invisible. It didn't even seem to faze that cop when he shot that man. I know many great cops, but I know in a small town like mine...not a lot of thorough screening is done. It more comes down to who you know. I have a friend with PTSD from serving that honestly, I don't think he should be a cop from behavior ive seen out of him. Just saying. Better screening for people we are allowing to conduct the law. KNOW the laws and what to do in a situation. That is all.
And no disrespect toward people that are cops! I don't envy your job and many are wonderful.
Although what is being posted about is an EXTREME to this. It comes down to KNOWING the law. As an officer arrests a fireman while proving patient care, comprising a patient. Which is against the law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO36cUixLUY
148. (a ) (1 ) Every person who willfully resists, delays, or
obstructs any public officer, peace officer, or an emergency medical
technician, as defined in Division 2.5 (commencing with Section 1797 )
of the Health and Safety Code, in the discharge or attempt to
discharge any duty of his or her office or employment, when no other
punishment is prescribed, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding
one thousand dollars ($1,000 ), or by imprisonment in a county jail
not to exceed one year, or by both that fine and imprisonment.
I am sorry but your post seriously made me laugh. Sorry
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Officers dashcam video.http://www.wspa.com/story/28744997/sc-officer-shoots-kills-man-who-was-running-awayIt does not make shooting someone in the back right. But hopefully people will realize it is best not to try to escape. He was stopped for a broken tail light. Did not have insurance on the car and no registration. Officer seemed calm and pretty respectful during all of this. Then the man runs. Family says cause there was a bench warrant for his failure to pay child support. Now his family is suing the police department saying it won't bring him back, but will provide for his children. Find that ironic. I take it these are the same children he was not paying child support to. But he claims he was buying the Benz he ran from. Priorities, priorities, priorities. Yes the media is reporting his service in the coast guard most are not reporting it was two years and he was discharged because of drugs. Riots - you bet. Today law enforcement lined the Ravenel Bridge because protesters were going to stop traffic during rush hour. Stir the pot for what? Officer arrested, charged with murder and is locked up. This is not being swept under the rug by the police or government in this city. Yet the race baiters run rampant. There are certainly no winners in this tragedy Including the officer's wife who is 8 months pregnant.
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Officers dashcam video.http://www.wspa.com/story/28744997/sc-officer-shoots-kills-man-who-was-running-awayIt does not make shooting someone in the back right. But hopefully people will realize it is best not to try to escape. He was stopped for a broken tail light. Did not have insurance on the car and no registration. Officer seemed calm and pretty respectful during all of this. Then the man runs. Family says cause there was a bench warrant for his failure to pay child support. Now his family is suing the police department saying it won't bring him back, but will provide for his children. Find that ironic. I take it these are the same children he was not paying child support to. But he claims he was buying the Benz he ran from. Priorities, priorities, priorities. Yes the media is reporting his service in the coast guard most are not reporting it was two years and he was discharged because of drugs. Riots - you bet. Today law enforcement lined the Ravenel Bridge because protesters were going to stop traffic during rush hour. Stir the pot for what? Officer arrested, charged with murder and is locked up. This is not being swept under the rug by the police or government in this city. Yet the race baiters run rampant. There are certainly no winners in this tragedy Including the officer's wife who is 8 months pregnant.
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Location: Florida.. | Bear - 2015-04-09 9:49 PM I don't understand what all the discussion is about. The guy tried running away from a bad cop and got shot in the back like a dog.
Thats how I feel.. it was wrong, the man running wasnt in the right.. the cop was wrong.. it is done... but we have to make a HUGE ordeal over this because it was a Black guy and white cop... period.......................................would everyone being discussing and making a huge ordeal over it if it was white on white ? i wonder... everything now that happens.. the goal is to make it appear racism at its finest to just cause that much more divided people.. and that much more reason for the "mouthy nothing to do look at me " rioters..whom most dont even know WHY they are holding that sign .. |
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WOW!! Do us a favor and don't try to post any more links. That was the Worst job I ever saw..... I love how the horse sticks around to watch the cops beat the crap outta this guy.. Looks like he'd like to get in a few shots himself.
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So I just saw this video.
Related to original post. But it's the first half, before the man runs off the officers dash cam. Still not worth to shooting him or anyone... But the man wasn't very smart
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| Based on everything that I have seen and read on this it is murder period. The officer had zero justification to even take a shot at him. I commend SC. on their swift action. |
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Kennewick, WA — A disturbing yet incredibly revealing video was uploaded to YouTube recently which shows an alleged Kennewick police officer admit to a slew of misdeeds.
The video starts out with the officer proclaiming how stopping these teenagers on the last day of the month, just helped him reach his quota.
“This is the last day of the month. I get every stat I need just off of you guys,” says the officer as he begins his rights violating confession.
“So you guys gotta make quota, huh?” asks the detained teen.
“We don’t have a quota. We have expectations. And what that means is, you will make so many arrests a month, you should write so many tickets a month, and you should haul so many dumbasses to jail a month. If we’re gonna pay you $100,000 a year, we should expect something back from you, shouldn’t we?” says the officer.
When the man replies, ‘yes’ that he understands what the officer just said, the cop then asks, “Would you like to be part of my quota tonight?”
The young man then asks the cop, “On what grounds [would you arrest me]?”
To which the cop replies, “‘On what grounds?’ Oh, I don’t know, I’ll think of something. How about aiding and abetting reckless driving?”
The officer basically admits that he will simply make up any charges he wants, just to make an arrest.
“Fair enough,” says the man, trying to prevent himself from being kidnapped by this officer for no reason.
“You better wipe that smile off your face brother, or I’ll show ya,” says the officer.
It doesn’t stop there, this officer then exposes himself for the true power-tripping tyrant that he is.
“Now, let me tell you what the difference between being a smart guy and a dumbass is. You sit there with that ****-eating grin on your face, let me see some id!” says the tyrant officer.
The young man then replies as he’s going to show the officer his ID, “It’s cool I got a clean record.”
That’s when the officer becomes brutally honest about how he can abuse his power to ruin innocent lives.
The officer replies, “Yeah, but you know what? I’m the guy that can make that record look dirty.”
At this point the officer then admits how the entire system is funded through this type of shakedown and extortion racket.
“You are a guy that’s gonna end up giving the city a lot of money,” says the officer explaining how the state aggressively pursues poor people to pay their exorbitant salaries.
The officer then proceeds to massively flex his authority as the teen isn’t bowing down fast enough, screaming, “Shut up! Shut up!”
The teen filming then asks the officer for his name, to which the officer yells, “Be Quiet! Or you’ll have my name on a police report and your ass will be on the way to juvi for aiding and abetting! Understand that?”
To top it all off, the officer then attacks the teen’s First Amendment right, by telling him that he did not give him permission to film.
“I didn’t give you permission!” says the officer as he yanks the phone from the teen’s hand.
The video then ends. Let’s make this officer, who makes $100,000 a year to harass innocent people, internet famous.
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Location: So. California | Bibliafarm - 2015-04-09 7:09 PM Bear - 2015-04-09 9:49 PM I don't understand what all the discussion is about. The guy tried running away from a bad cop and got shot in the back like a dog. Thats how I feel.. it was wrong, the man running wasnt in the right.. the cop was wrong.. it is done... but we have to make a HUGE ordeal over this because it was a Black guy and white cop... period.......................................would everyone being discussing and making a huge ordeal over it if it was white on white ? i wonder... everything now that happens.. the goal is to make it appear racism at its finest to just cause that much more divided people.. and that much more reason for the "mouthy nothing to do look at me " rioters..whom most dont even know WHY they are holding that sign ..
I would hope that we would make a big deal out of this, regardless of the races of those involved. This was abuse of power, with the most horrific outcome... All over a broken tail light?
Then LEO officers LIED on their police reports (video tells a different story). And more than one LEO lied on the official police report(s), what the h e l l does that tell us? Blue code of silience? Fellow officers protecting their own even when murder is involved? THAT is what scares the crap out of me.
I see the quick response (less than a week after the shooting) by SC LE as hopeful sign.
Prayers for the victims family.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Itsme - 2015-04-09 11:50 PM
Transcript from above video...
Kennewick, WA — A disturbing yet incredibly revealing video was uploaded to YouTube recently which shows an alleged Kennewick police officer admit to a slew of misdeeds.
The video starts out with the officer proclaiming how stopping these teenagers on the last day of the month, just helped him reach his quota.
“This is the last day of the month. I get every stat I need just off of you guys,” says the officer as he begins his rights violating confession.
“So you guys gotta make quota, huh?” asks the detained teen.
“We don’t have a quota. We have expectations. And what that means is, you will make so many arrests a month, you should write so many tickets a month, and you should haul so many dumbasses to jail a month. If we’re gonna pay you $100,000 a year, we should expect something back from you, shouldn’t we?” says the officer.
When the man replies, ‘yes’ that he understands what the officer just said, the cop then asks, “Would you like to be part of my quota tonight?”
The young man then asks the cop, “On what grounds [would you arrest me]?”
To which the cop replies, “‘On what grounds?’ Oh, I don’t know, I’ll think of something. How about aiding and abetting reckless driving?”
The officer basically admits that he will simply make up any charges he wants, just to make an arrest.
“Fair enough,” says the man, trying to prevent himself from being kidnapped by this officer for no reason.
“You better wipe that smile off your face brother, or I’ll show ya,” says the officer.
It doesn’t stop there, this officer then exposes himself for the true power-tripping tyrant that he is.
“Now, let me tell you what the difference between being a smart guy and a dumbass is. You sit there with that ****-eating grin on your face, let me see some id!” says the tyrant officer.
The young man then replies as he’s going to show the officer his ID, “It’s cool I got a clean record.”
That’s when the officer becomes brutally honest about how he can abuse his power to ruin innocent lives.
The officer replies, “Yeah, but you know what? I’m the guy that can make that record look dirty.”
At this point the officer then admits how the entire system is funded through this type of shakedown and extortion racket.
“You are a guy that’s gonna end up giving the city a lot of money,” says the officer explaining how the state aggressively pursues poor people to pay their exorbitant salaries.
The officer then proceeds to massively flex his authority as the teen isn’t bowing down fast enough, screaming, “Shut up! Shut up!”
The teen filming then asks the officer for his name, to which the officer yells, “Be Quiet! Or you’ll have my name on a police report and your ass will be on the way to juvi for aiding and abetting! Understand that?”
To top it all off, the officer then attacks the teen’s First Amendment right, by telling him that he did not give him permission to film.
“I didn’t give you permission!” says the officer as he yanks the phone from the teen’s hand.
The video then ends. Let’s make this officer, who makes $100,000 a year to harass innocent people, internet famous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dqTelihgPnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dqTelihgPn...
It's very simple,, In today's world...Don't lip off to cops... "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Out there on the street.. With the cop wearing the badge and the gun, he is about as close to absolute power as you can get..
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cn1705 - 2015-04-09 11:15 AM
I honestly think BETTER back ground checks and personality tests should be conducted for hiring law enforcement. Also more schooling on the law. I think there are cops that take advantage our their thought "power" and think their invisible. It didn't even seem to faze that cop when he shot that man. I know many great cops, but I know in a small town like mine...not a lot of thorough screening is done. It more comes down to who you know. I have a friend with PTSD from serving that honestly, I don't think he should be a cop from behavior ive seen out of him. Just saying. Better screening for people we are allowing to conduct the law. KNOW the laws and what to do in a situation. That is all.
And no disrespect toward people that are cops! I don't envy your job and many are wonderful.
Although what is being posted about is an EXTREME to this. It comes down to KNOWING the law. As an officer arrests a fireman while proving patient care, comprising a patient. Which is against the law.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO36cUixLUY
148. (a ) (1 ) Every person who willfully resists, delays, or
obstructs any public officer, peace officer, or an emergency medical
technician, as defined in Division 2.5 (commencing with Section 1797 )
of the Health and Safety Code, in the discharge or attempt to
discharge any duty of his or her office or employment, when no other
punishment is prescribed, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding
one thousand dollars ($1,000 ), or by imprisonment in a county jail
not to exceed one year, or by both that fine and imprisonment.
I am sorry but your post seriously made me laugh. Sorry
I don't find it funny people being in danger because some officers aren't property trained and screened. To each their own I suppose.
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Location: SE Louisiana | streakysox - 2015-04-10 10:53 PM cn1705 - 2015-04-09 2:22 PM streakysox - 2015-04-09 1:05 PM cn1705 - 2015-04-09 11:15 AM I honestly think BETTER back ground checks and personality tests should be conducted for hiring law enforcement. Also more schooling on the law. I think there are cops that take advantage our their thought "power" and think their invisible. It didn't even seem to faze that cop when he shot that man. I know many great cops, but I know in a small town like mine...not a lot of thorough screening is done. It more comes down to who you know. I have a friend with PTSD from serving that honestly, I don't think he should be a cop from behavior ive seen out of him. Just saying. Better screening for people we are allowing to conduct the law. KNOW the laws and what to do in a situation. That is all. And no disrespect toward people that are cops! I don't envy your job and many are wonderful. Although what is being posted about is an EXTREME to this. It comes down to KNOWING the law. As an officer arrests a fireman while proving patient care, comprising a patient. Which is against the law. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO36cUixLUY 148. (a ) (1 ) Every person who willfully resists, delays, or obstructs any public officer, peace officer, or an emergency medical technician, as defined in Division 2.5 (commencing with Section 1797 ) of the Health and Safety Code, in the discharge or attempt to discharge any duty of his or her office or employment, when no other punishment is prescribed, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding one thousand dollars ($1,000 ), or by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, or by both that fine and imprisonment. I am sorry but your post seriously made me laugh. Sorry I don't find it funny people being in danger because some officers aren't property trained and screened. To each their own I suppose. And I am sorry that you did not even see what I found funny. Again sorry.
Well I can see it...
Every person who willfully resists, delays, or
obstructs any public officer, peace officer, or an emergency medical
technician, as defined in Division 2.5 (commencing with Section 1797)
of the Health and Safety Code, in the discharge or attempt to
discharge any duty of his or her office or employment, when no other
punishment is prescribed, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding
one thousand dollars
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You ready for more riots and looting?