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| What do you all feed your seniors that can longer eat hay ? Mine is about 26 yrs old .. He no longer can get hay .. Just wads it & spits it out . He is currently in beet pulp & purina equine senior . He looks great , but sometimes he doesn't want to finish the beet pulp . I also don't how loose their stools become on just a senior feed .. But I don't think I have baby options to fix that . Would alfalfa cubes be better to help that , since it's more like hay ? Just seeing what everyone feeds theirs ! |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | A good senior feed plus beet pulp is good -- but I always felt bad for the ones that could not eat hay -- I'd try to give them bits -- tiny bits to gum around because it seemed to keep them happy -- and try to keep them on a good pasture. I have fed soaked alfalfa cubes, too - but a good senior feed plus beet pulp seemed to do the best job putting on and keeping weight on them. And I fed them 3 times a day - morning - when I got home from work and before I went to bed. During the winter when I had them up I'd sprinkle alfalfa hay around their stall edge and paddock - little sprinkly bits which gave them something to do nibbling around looking for that - and apparently they did get some down for nutrition because it would be gone next time I was in the barn. A great deworming program is really important for the old ones, too -- just a small worm infestation will pull an old one down quickly and keep them down. And I have always kept the old ones away from the younger ones - since they don't move as well and will get driven off their feed -- they have had their own pasture. |
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Location: Texas | I just feed senior feed. He doesnt get beet pulp etc. His stools are fune and he looks great for 31. |
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Location: Florida.. | it doesnt matter if he doesnt finish the beet pulp.. sr has beet pulp in it.. so feed according to directions for horses that cant eat hay .. hes 26 and im sure the sr isnt what is causing his issues.. id not switch around with a sr..their tummys are delicate... the alfalfa will make him looser imho. |
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Location: Texas!! | Mine gets senior feed with soaked alfalfa cubes, he loves the cubes!! His stools are sorta soft. |
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| The stools age just going to be softer no matter what .. Bc he's not eating hay. I hate it but there's nothing you can do when this happens.. I may try the cubes .. He used go love feed .. Always ate every last thing .. But he became picky / slow eater like over night .. His teeth were just done by a very good vet .. He just became a typical picky senior .. Idk how he's stays so fat to be honest .. Must be doing something right .. |
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Location: North Dakota | Soaked alfalfa or hay cubes will make it soft and the fibers are a bit longer, almost like grass. If he can't do that then soaked alfalfa cubes makes mush. |
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | I have one 27 years old that is on pasture and eating Equine Senior mixed with Omolene 200. If I feed him just the Equine Senior he gets bored with the flavor and won't eat but part of it, so the Omolene 200 spices it up for him. He's on grass and hay but does tend to cud his hay and spit it out. Aging is the worst, animals and people both. It sucks. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | I would change the beet pulp for alfalfa pellets or cubes soaked. |
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| Frodo - 2015-04-08 7:20 PM
I have one 27 years old that is on pasture and eating Equine Senior mixed with Omolene 200. If I feed him just the Equine Senior he gets bored with the flavor and won't eat but part of it, so the Omolene 200 spices it up for him. He's on grass and hay but does tend to cud his hay and spit it out. Aging is the worst, animals and people both. It sucks.
I couldn't agree more !! :( |
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Location: Texas | My oldie is 33 this year. I feed her Triple Crown Sr. She hasn't looked this great in years. She also gets alfalfa pellets. I have to watch her on grass, stays in the stall or small turn out the majority of the time. I have had her on Purina Sr also, and Nuturena Sr. and just couldn't get her the way I wanted. I don't have to feed her near as much as either of the other two and she looks great. I do make sure it comes from a mill that is ionophore free though. |
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 My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | We have a 36 year old. He gets Purina Sr feed, beet pulp, Platinum CJ, and Platinum Healthy Weight oil. He quids his hay mostly because he has hardly any teeth left. He will take spells where he will leave anywhere from 1/4 to over 1/2 his feed uneaten, and it worries me to death. Then the next day he cleans the trough. My friend says he self regulates, and that he may be getting more hay in his belly than I think and could just be full. I was concerned about how he came out of the bad winter, but my farrier volunteered to my boyfriend last week when he trimmed everyone that Dan looked amazing. He said most of his clients with "normal age" horses don't look nearly as good as he does right now. He was my first horse I got after a devastating car wreck where my best friend was killed and I lost my left leg above the knee; he was my rock and eased me back into horses when I doubted I'd ever sit in a saddle again, let alone own another horse. So when people ask me WHY???? As in why do you feed and take care of a horse that old that requires so very much and yet isn't rideable anymore-----my answer is cause he took care of someone who needed so very much. I know I wrote a book and got way off track, but it makes me happy knowing there are folks out there willing to go the extra mile for their older partners! |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | My senior likes you to change up his feed. So, right now he gets straight oats and soaked alfalfa cubes. He is also out 24/7. In the winter he gets a round bale (to make his mother feedl better), soaked beet pulp, and soaked cubes in hot water. During the summer he gets the cube cold.
When he acts like he doesn't want the cubes, he gets purina senior. (Although now with the feed issues, monension posioning, I am going to have to rethink it). |
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| Chandler's Mom - 2015-04-09 12:03 AM
We have a 36 year old. He gets Purina Sr feed, beet pulp, Platinum CJ, and Platinum Healthy Weight oil. He quids his hay mostly because he has hardly any teeth left. He will take spells where he will leave anywhere from 1/4 to over 1/2 his feed uneaten, and it worries me to death. Then the next day he cleans the trough. My friend says he self regulates, and that he may be getting more hay in his belly than I think and could just be full. I was concerned about how he came out of the bad winter, but my farrier volunteered to my boyfriend last week when he trimmed everyone that Dan looked amazing. He said most of his clients with "normal age" horses don't look nearly as good as he does right now. He was my first horse I got after a devastating car wreck where my best friend was killed and I lost my left leg above the knee; he was my rock and eased me back into horses when I doubted I'd ever sit in a saddle again, let alone own another horse. So when people ask me WHY???? As in why do you feed and take care of a horse that old that requires so very much and yet isn't rideable anymore-----my answer is cause he took care of someone who needed so very much. I know I wrote a book and got way off track, but it makes me happy knowing there are folks out there willing to go the extra mile for their older partners!
Exactly! They do a tremendous amount for us and it's out turn to repay them 
I commend your efforts :)
What an awesome horse you have and what an awesome family he has! |
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Location: South Dakota | I've got a 34 and a 28 year old and they get almost 10 gallons of sr. feed a day plus 3 coffee cans of oats, 2 coffee cans of Summer Heat and 3 lbs of Amplify. I know it seems kind of crazy and at times I feel like a witch doctor trying to figure out what concoction is going to work for them. I don't think we have Triple Crown Sr. around here or else I'd probably have to try that. |
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Location: South Dakota | scamper - 2015-04-08 9:54 PM My oldie is 33 this year. I feed her Triple Crown Sr. She hasn't looked this great in years. She also gets alfalfa pellets. I have to watch her on grass, stays in the stall or small turn out the majority of the time. I have had her on Purina Sr also, and Nuturena Sr. and just couldn't get her the way I wanted. I don't have to feed her near as much as either of the other two and she looks great. I do make sure it comes from a mill that is ionophore free though.
How much Triple Crown Sr. do you feed her? I did some checking and I think maybe I can get it here. Thanks. |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | Rachelyn80 has had good luck with Chaffee hay on her senior horse- might try it? |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | Alfalfa cubes soaked are what seems to work best on my geriatric horses and for my customers horses that are no longer able to masticate grass or hay.
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Location: Tulsa, Ok | My 33 year old hates every kind of senior feed (I have tried every kind available in the area). He also refuses to eat anything that is wet or soaked. He is currently maintaining well on Heritage Textured High Fat and whatever hay/pasture he manages to not ball up and spit out. |
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Location: Abbotsford B.C. Canada | I have good luck with feeding some alfalfa cubes which are soaked . That will at least give some texture or longer fiber. Try 5-10 lbs a day and keep feeding the beet pulp. Another good hay replacer is pure soyhulls. They are nice because they are high in soluble fiber that soaks up water just like beet pulp. However, they are very low in sugar and starch so add a modest level of calories . Soy hulls will actually help balance the sugar levels for a horse with diabetes or cushing's and insulin resistance or metabolic syndrome and IR etc.
I fed my mare about 5 lbs alf cubes and 5 lbs (dry wt then soaked 2:1 with water) of pure soyhulls last winter plus local hay. She is a medium sized 22 year old TB mare. She had hives so I needed forage she was not allergic too and those items helped me until I found a hay she was ok with.
Always feed a little alfalfa anyways as it works like a natural buffer and helps prevent ulcers. The extra calcium will not overwhelm the horse if it is just 5-10 lbs a day and the rest could be timothy hay cubes or pellets which also could be used in your program. If the horse has a lot of chewing issues, try alfalfa pellets as they are obviously ground even finer.
Always have long hay out so the horse can mentally relax and get its head down rooting around in the hay and drain its lungs etc.
Then feed the senior horse feed at 5-10 lbs a day and I would add a cup of milled flax as a natural anti inflammatory or one of the new DHA marine or algae based sources of omega 3 fatty acids.
Throw in a little soy oil as well if you need extra calories next winter and the horse should do well. I have horses wih no teeth on a mush like this and they do fine .
A joint supplement would help the old horse as well.
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Location: Beggs, OK | TurnLane - 2015-04-09 8:42 AM Rachelyn80 has had good luck with Chaffee hay on her senior horse- might try it?
Yes I have :-) If you can get it they do well on it. I leave a bag out full time for my 28 year old mare the yearling fillies that she babysits. We keep it in a big black water trough for them to pick at. They get alfalfa and grass hay too, but I want to make sure that she has something soft if she wants it.
My two that are on stall rest have buckets hanging in their stalls that we try to keep full of chaffhaye for them to pick at. |
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| Great advice everyone !! Just really stinks when they loose their teeth :( |
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Location: South of Canada and North of Mexico | My 30 yr old no longer eats any hay, he gets 8lbs a day (2 feedings) of Triple Crown Complete. That is all he gets and he looks fantastic. I took in an underweight pony Dec 21st and she taped at 550 and she also got 8lbs of TC Complete and is not 675lbs and looks great as well. Love this feed and its worth the price.
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| watchpeppydoc - 2015-04-09 12:48 PM
My 30 yr old no longer eats any hay, he gets 8lbs a day (2 feedings) of Triple Crown Complete. That is all he gets and he looks fantastic. I took in an underweight pony Dec 21st and she taped at 550 and she also got 8lbs of TC Complete and is not 675lbs and looks great as well. Love this feed and its worth the price.
The sr is the chesnut -
He looks great !! That's kinda how my guy is .. He stays very fat on just 6 lbs of equine senior & 3 lbs of beet pulp a day . Also grass when they get turned out on pasture when it's not muddy .. |
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Location: Online | 3lbs standlee alfalfa pellets soaked, 2 lbs senior feed and equipride twice a day has kept my old guy fat and sassy. We give him a little grass hay to keep him busy, he can't really chew it up and spits it out, but it entertains him. His poops are nice round bales. |
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| rodeomom13 - 2015-04-09 1:30 PM
3lbs standlee alfalfa pellets soaked, 2 lbs senior feed and equipride twice a day has kept my old guy fat and sassy. We give him a little grass hay to keep him busy, he can't really chew it up and spits it out, but it entertains him. His poops are nice round bales.
Maybe I should try alfalfa pellets instead of cubes! Would be easier for him to eat.. |
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My Heart Be Happy
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Location: Arkansas | Tatum2 - 2015-04-09 8:04 AM
Chandler's Mom - 2015-04-09 12:03 AM
We have a 36 year old. He gets Purina Sr feed, beet pulp, Platinum CJ, and Platinum Healthy Weight oil. He quids his hay mostly because he has hardly any teeth left. He will take spells where he will leave anywhere from 1/4 to over 1/2 his feed uneaten, and it worries me to death. Then the next day he cleans the trough. My friend says he self regulates, and that he may be getting more hay in his belly than I think and could just be full. I was concerned about how he came out of the bad winter, but my farrier volunteered to my boyfriend last week when he trimmed everyone that Dan looked amazing. He said most of his clients with "normal age" horses don't look nearly as good as he does right now. He was my first horse I got after a devastating car wreck where my best friend was killed and I lost my left leg above the knee; he was my rock and eased me back into horses when I doubted I'd ever sit in a saddle again, let alone own another horse. So when people ask me WHY???? As in why do you feed and take care of a horse that old that requires so very much and yet isn't rideable anymore-----my answer is cause he took care of someone who needed so very much. I know I wrote a book and got way off track, but it makes me happy knowing there are folks out there willing to go the extra mile for their older partners!
Exactly! They do a tremendous amount for us and it's out turn to repay them
I commend your efforts : )
What an awesome horse you have and what an awesome family he has!
Thank you! I'm gonna get technologically advanced and post pics of Dan and "the herd" on here one day soon. I owe my horses a lot----they helped give me my confidence back after my wreck and opened a whole new world of wonderful horse people to me. When I'm on them they're my legs and make me feel like I fit in with other folks on equal levels. Sorry, there I go again!!! |
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Location: Vinton, La. | Have a 32 year old retired broodmare. I feed her Equine Sr mixed with a bit of a sweet grain because that's what she will eat. No cubes, no pellets, no supplements, no nothing will she put in her toothless mouth besides the above mixture with about a 1/2 lb or so of rice bran 2X a day. I've tried everything. I've upped her feed and she will only eat her usual amount she's been eating for the last 18 years, will leave the rest. Finally after me asking my vet over and over what to do he said, "She's 32!!! She looks great. If it's not broke don't try to fix it."
Oh, and she loves bread! Has four slices in the morning and 4 in the evening every day. Wonder Bread is her complete favorite.
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"Heck's Coming With Me"
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Location: Kansas | Looky how lucky our old horses are that we faithfully take care of them to the best of our ability instead of sending them to nursing homes.
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Senior horses who cannot eat hay