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Found out he stole and injured the horse in attempting to get away. He wouldn't have had to worry about the cops if it had been mine. BUT the way they handled him is like whipping a horse after the fact in anger. No excuse.
http://www.cnn.com/videos/justice/2015/04/10/ctn-sot-report-man-tased-beaten-by-deputies.cnn
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If I fell off my horse, I'm pretty sure none of them would just stand there. lol The guy deserved it. If you dont want an ass whoopin, dont steal **** and try to run away. If his mother had done more of it when he was young he would have learned his lesson then.
Thank goodness someone else in this world sees it like I do. I don't care what color you are, you BROKE THE LAW, FLED FROM LAW ENFORCEMENT, if you get your butt whipped, it was your choice. Same goes for all this prison inmate rights junk, if you hadnt broke the law you wouldnt have to worry about it..
We have more people incarcerated in the USA than any other country in the world and we pay, on average, $40,000 PER INMATE of tax payer money to take care of them. DO we have more criminals than other countries? NO. Breaking the law in this country entitles you free food, free rent, in some cases free education etc.
In some other countries in the world if your in prison and you need food, family has to bring it or you don't get any.
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | FlyingJT - 2015-04-10 11:55 AM What they did to that man, regardless of what he did, is unacceptable! They are held at a high standard, they looked like a gang of thugs! All of them are a disgrace to law enforcement!! But... they'll all be investigated and no charges will be filed... like usual!
That I is exactly the impression I got too...gang / pack mentality.
Yes, he ran and if they wanted to be rough getting him cuffed to teach him a lesson, that is one thing. But this goes WAY WAY beyond that. This is like something you would see in Mexico or the middle east. We are supposed to be better than that. |
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Location: The edge of no where | Herbie - 2015-04-10 11:56 AM I'd really like to own that horse....that is one good sucker! As for the dude, that's much better treatment than horse thieves (or any kind of thieves for that matter) used to receive when caught.
Kinda my thoughts.... You could take my truck, trailer, saddle, pretty much anything out of my house, but if you mess with my dogs or horses, you will need the police to come save you.
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Herbie - 2015-04-10 11:56 AM I'd really like to own that horse....that is one good sucker! As for the dude, that's much better treatment than horse thieves (or any kind of thieves for that matter) used to receive when caught.
Anyone know what he did during the chase? How long had they been chasing him?
HERE Are THE FACTS, CUT AND PASTED FROM NEWS REPORT
In San Bernadino County on Thursday, sheriff’s deputies were reportedly serving a search warrant on Pusok in connection with an investigation into alleged identity theft.
He allegedly fled in a car, which he then abandoned. Pusok is alleged to have stolen a horse after encountering a group of riders on the edge of the Mojave desert, and to have then led officers on a hazardous chase through the rough landscape, during which the horse was reportedly injured.
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Herbie - 2015-04-10 11:56 AM I'd really like to own that horse....that is one good sucker! As for the dude, that's much better treatment than horse thieves (or any kind of thieves for that matter) used to receive when caught.
Anyone know what he did during the chase? How long had they been chasing him?
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | teebluesage - 2015-04-10 1:54 PM You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves.
I get that they never know who they are stopping and some of the most dangerous stops for them are late in small towns. I get that. But at the same time they need to have some common sense and turn their siren & lights off if they're stopping any kind of livestock. He could have done a quick check himself and then let you check the horses. I think nerves get the best of them - we have had several true family dogs get shot for barking alone on a traffic stop. They weren't threatening at all. But then again, if a dog unsettled them that much they don't need to be cops.
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| teebluesage - 2015-04-10 11:54 AM
You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves.
What if you were a drug dealer ( He didn't know you weren't) and you were using the innocent horse people cover to traffic your drugs? And you had a shot gun in the manger of the trailer? Cops have been brutally killed and caught off guard during routine traffic stops. I see both of your points, but the cop did nothing wrong in my opinion. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-10 2:36 PM teebluesage - 2015-04-10 11:54 AM You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves. What if you were a drug dealer ( He didn't know you weren't ) and you were using the innocent horse people cover to traffic your drugs? And you had a shot gun in the manger of the trailer? Cops have been brutally killed and caught off guard during routine traffic stops. I see both of your points, but the cop did nothing wrong in my opinion.
Additionally, for safety reasons they are not allowed to turn off their lights, etc (siren, yes......lights no)
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| teebluesage - 2015-04-10 1:54 PM
You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves.
Been there and it was scary how they scream and yell and carry on. No wonder people get scared and run. I am not defending the suspects who attack first or act like they have a weapon, but it's not always the suspect's fault. Sometimes the cops act like little scared, tempermental children. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | komet. - 2015-04-10 4:18 PM I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this.
I think it's because it's been so long since we've seen something of that level, or at least I have any way. What I find interesting though is the two sides of the fence - those that think because it's a thug it's always automatically open season & ok to gang punch someone 37 times vs those that think there's a line that you don't cross if you're a police officer. |
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| Fairweather - 2015-04-10 4:29 PM komet. - 2015-04-10 4:18 PM I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this. I think it's because it's been so long since we've seen something of that level, or at least I have any way. What I find interesting though is the two sides of the fence - those that think because it's a thug it's always automatically open season & ok to gang punch someone 37 times vs those that think there's a line that you don't cross if you're a police officer.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Whiteboy - 2015-04-10 4:35 PM
Fairweather - 2015-04-10 4:29 PM komet. - 2015-04-10 4:18 PM I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this. I think it's because it's been so long since we've seen something of that level, or at least I have any way. What I find interesting though is the two sides of the fence - those that think because it's a thug it's always automatically open season & ok to gang punch someone 37 times vs those that think there's a line that you don't cross if you're a police officer.
It depends on who you are. As a horse person, cop or not I'd have been first in line to start beating on this fella. But.... Someone said horse thieves used to be hanged for this crime... but even then the cops were not allowed to do this to you while being arrested. |
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Location: So. California | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-10 11:11 AM MS2011 - 2015-04-10 11:00 AM Herbie - 2015-04-10 11:56 AM I'd really like to own that horse....that is one good sucker! As for the dude, that's much better treatment than horse thieves (or any kind of thieves for that matter) used to receive when caught.
Anyone know what he did during the chase? How long had they been chasing him?
HERE Are THE FACTS, CUT AND PASTED FROM NEWS REPORT In San Bernadino County on Thursday, sheriff’s deputies were reportedly serving a search warrant on Pusok in connection with an investigation into alleged identity theft. He allegedly fled in a car, which he then abandoned. Pusok is alleged to have stolen a horse after encountering a group of riders on the edge of the Mojave desert, and to have then led officers on a hazardous chase through the rough landscape, during which the horse was reportedly injured.
That is what the media is reporting, unfortunately, not necessary ALL the facts as they are getting their information from LEO. The video being shown was shot and streamed live from a media helicoptor and allegedly shows the criminal being "...kicked 17 times, punched 37 times and hit with a baton four times.."
I agree he should have been given a good a$$-whooping somewhere along the way, just NOT at the hands of LEO AFTER he had surrendered. Another multi-million $ civil lawsuit that the public has to pay for... 
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | komet. - 2015-04-10 4:18 PM I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this.
I certainly do NOT agree with the actions of these idiots in the video called “cops”……. They are thugs with badges.
That being said, I find it reprehensible to blame ALL police officers for the “bad deeds” of those who beat Rodney King in 1991 or have been involved in any “bad acts” that have happened recently. Since 1991, 3800 police officers have been killed in the line of duty….HOW MANY good officers have been beaten or shot by “perps”? HOW MANY of the hundreds of thousands of DECENT officers get recognized for their “good deeds”? |
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Location: Texas | GLP - 2015-04-10 4:13 PM teebluesage - 2015-04-10 1:54 PM You know, yes I agree this guy broke the law, and probably isn't the best person, and does deserve to get arrested. However, what happened to a policemans job being to serve and protect. Not violently take it upon themselves to bully, beat up, and kill people who are just running away, not threatening the policemen's lives at all. They act worse than a gang of lawless thugs. This behavior with the police is way too common, it needs to be stopped. I say they are way out of control! I'll give a personal example, last year my husband and I were driving through a small town late at night after a horse sale. We got pulled over by a cop for a tail light that was out on the horsetrailer. My husband was driving and he asked for both our drivers licenses. He walked back to his car, which was parked in back of my small 2-horse trailer with his siren lights on. I had 2 horses back there and I had just bought one of them, so she was new. Well, I heard some banging coming from the horses, so what do I do, I get out and go check them, of course. Oh boy, this was sure the wrong thing to do! The cop started screaming at me to get back in the vehicle. My husband hollers back that I was just checking the horses. I got right back in the truck, with the cop yelling the whole time. When he came back up to our window, (couldn't find no warrants out on us, bummer for him I'm sure, since he seemed to really want to make an arrest) he explained that he just couldn't be to careful, since for all he knew we could of had a bunch of armed men in that trailer! I'm not kidding, this is what he said. This is a small 2-horse trailer and all you can see is the mare's two big butts through the top opening of the door, certainly no room for armed men. My point is, this cop tried to escalate a simple, harmless traffic stop, over a tail light. I was yelled at like I was some dangerous criminal, and this is was I'm hearing about on the news with most of the cases the police are taking things to extremes and overreacting. The only thing that might keep these bullies in check is fear of being videoed and getting in trouble themselves. Been there and it was scary how they scream and yell and carry on. No wonder people get scared and run. I am not defending the suspects who attack first or act like they have a weapon, but it's not always the suspect's fault. Sometimes the cops act like little scared, tempermental children.
My husband had a sports car in high school. He swears to this day he wasn't racing. Anyway he got pulled over by an unmarked police car. He was getting his ID out and what not and looked up when the cop got to the window and the cop has his gun drawn and pointed straight at him. He was yelling about get your hands up, take the keys out of the ignition etc. My husband has never been in trouble with the law other then traffic violations when he was younger (go figure). Of course he was scared. The cop treated him like crap, yelled at him etc. Then let him go with a warning. It is crazy to me how much the cop escalated something so simple. I can also see how things can get out of hand when the cop is already on the defensive, add someone else that wants to fight, run, argue or whatever and I think that is how we get so many crazy stories.
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Location: SE Louisiana | NJJ - 2015-04-10 4:45 PM
komet. - 2015-04-10 4:18 PM I don't understand why anybody is surprised the cops behave this way. After the police were acquitted of all charges in the Rodney King beating it gave cops all over the country free rein to treat people like this.
I certainly do NOT agree with the actions of these idiots in the video called “cops”……. They are thugs with badges.
That being said, I find it reprehensible to blame ALL police officers for the “bad deeds” of those who beat Rodney King in 1991 or have been involved in any “bad acts” that have happened recently. Since 1991, 3800 police officers have been killed in the line of duty….HOW MANY good officers have been beaten or shot by “perps”? HOW MANY of the hundreds of thousands of DECENT officers get recognized for their “good deeds”?
I don't AGREE with it either.... and I never said ALL cops are bad... but I DO understand why some of them think they can get away with this sort of behavior.. Lets face it. It's been happening all along the timeline, it just never made it into the news before people could record it as easily as they can today. Everybody and their dog has a cell phone today and most of them can record videos. |
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I agree 100%!
Our judicial system sucks! He would have gotten a slap on the hand and not had any consequences.
ETA: Folks use to get hung for stealing horses and cattle, it's a shame that doesn't happen anymore.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-10 5:42 PM They just reported on the news here locally that the suspect shot his child's puppy just before he fled. The suspect was already on probation for other crimes and was suspected of being armed.
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Location: Where the pavement ends and the West begins Utah | Clearly need more training in the police department and psychiatric daily evaluation.This is equal to beating a dog till he bleeds while on a chain. Same mentality. |
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| It amazes me how today people are taking sides of the criminals. For example Michael Brown, this guy who we speak of, etc. Are we forgetting cause and effect? Don't break the law. If you don't do that one simple thing none of this would happen. The cops are getting such a bad rap from the media and I am surprised most of them have not thrown up their hands and said FINE YOU DEAL WITH IT!! I think that is why shooting and other crimes are getting so out of hand, because people can plead insanity or other things to get their way out of it. How do any of you not know what led up to the cops frustration? You can bad talk cops all you want, but every single time I see something like this. I think you made that choice to run, break the law, commit a crime etc. You deserve what you get. Everything that happens to you when you make that choice is your own freakin fault! Our country is sadly turning into a bunch of wusses because nobody is held accountable anymore.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 6:19 PM
It amazes me how today people are taking sides of the criminals. For example Michael Brown, this guy who we speak of, etc. Are we forgetting cause and effect? Don't break the law. If you don't do that one simple thing none of this would happen. The cops are getting such a bad rap from the media and I am surprised most of them have not thrown up their hands and said FINE YOU DEAL WITH IT!! I think that is why shooting and other crimes are getting so out of hand, because people can plead insanity or other things to get their way out of it. How do any of you not know what led up to the cops frustration? You can bad talk cops all you want, but every single time I see something like this. I think you made that choice to run, break the law, commit a crime etc. You deserve what you get. Everything that happens to you when you make that choice is your own freakin fault! Our country is sadly turning into a bunch of wusses because nobody is held accountable anymore.
P.S. They school is system is the same way. I am surprised anyone wants to be teachers anymore.
The sad fact that you can't seem to understand is, you don't HAVE to break the law to be abused by police today.
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| I realize there are bad cases. It sucks. I was referring to this case and ONLY cases where people break the law and everyone stands up for the criminal as a victim. As in this one. Who this man apparently shot his kids dog, ran from the cops, and stole someones animal/family to save his own self whom in the end injured as well.
My brother got a crappy end of the deal with a cop one time as well. But it doesnt make me hate cops because when there is someone in my home threatening my family. I will be calling them, so I support them. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 6:37 PM
I realize there are bad cases. It sucks. I was referring to this case and ONLY cases where people break the law and everyone stands up for the criminal as a victim. As in this one. Who this man apparently shot his kids dog, ran from the cops, and stole someones animal/family to save his own self whom in the end injured as well.
My brother got a crappy end of the deal with a cop one time as well. But it doesnt make me hate cops because when there is someone in my home threatening my family. I will be calling them, so I support them.
No matter what this man did. He had surrendered and was spread eagle on the ground when they attacked him... This is just as wrong as what happened in SC the other day when a cop decided he was judge, jury and executioner. The penalty for failure to pay child support is not death or to be beaten half to death.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 6:54 PM
Would not have happened if either one of them would not have ran plain and simple. I am referring to these situations.
It's attitudes like yours that explain why so many people feel the need to defend themselves against the police. This "If the cop even THINKS you have done something wrong he is justified in doing whatever he feels like doing"... attitude... Its no wonder so many people run.... |
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1. How did he get the horse? She he shove the rider off?
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| Nope, the cop did nothing wrong, but thank goodness I didn't run or I'd be dead right? Yeah, I'm being sarcastic, but not by much. There's been alot of police brutality cases on the news lately. Today when they were showing the horse one, they also showed this black guy who was pulled over for a traffic violation. Well, he took off running from the cop and was shot 8 times in the back. I don't know why this guy ran, but he was a out of shape looking middle aged father of 4 kids who couldn't even run very fast, I'd call it a jog. Now why couldn't this cop just of taken off after him and tased him or something? And I think it was last year, I watched another cop on the news punch an older black lady in the face and rough her up. And what was her crime, you ask? She was crossing the street in the wrong spot and when the cop approached her she tried to walk away from him. And they'll do the same to white people too, not just blacks. Those are just two examples that come to mind, I've seen and heard about numerous others. Sometimes, it is necessary for police to act with force, but they should have the good sense not to treat everyone like dangerous criminals. If they are so scared, that they can't treat people like decent citizens until proven otherwise then they are in the wrong line of work. Unless, of course they just like being bullies with badges. We are turning into a police state. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Anniemae - 2015-04-10 7:10 PM
And what is worse, it puts a bad light on GOOD cops. They are in the majority, but a few bad apples spoils the entire bunch. What a shame...
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| Anniemae - 2015-04-10 7:10 PM
And what is worse, it puts a bad light on GOOD cops. They are in the majority, but a few bad apples spoils the entire bunch. What a shame...
The real problem is they are like the muslims, they dont denounce the bad ones and actually enable them...
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| Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 7:11 PM
Here is my other questions.
1. How did he get the horse? She he shove the rider off?
2. How would you feel if it was your horse he stole? And injured?
This doesnt matter, how can you not get it? Their job was to capture and detain the guy until he sees a judge, not sentence him in the desert with kicks to the nuts. |
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| Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 7:40 PM
You're completly right. Lets forget everything he did. He is a victim of his own bad choices, just like the rest of them.
And those leos that are paid to uphold laws are now criminals...WOOO HOOOO, congratulations sinking to the perps level. |
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| Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 7:49 PM
And on another note. No one knows what happened between the warrant be served and to where video is. Who knows what he might have done to the officers themselves before it got to this point.
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Location: SE Louisiana | Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 7:40 PM
You're completly right. Lets forget everything he did. He is a victim of his own bad choices, just like the rest of them.
Nobody anywhere is prepared to forget of forgive anything he did... Nor will they forget or forgive the beating the cops gave him after he surrendered. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 7:54 PM
And I bet you voted for Obama.
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| Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 7:54 PM
And I bet you voted for Obama.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Itsme - 2015-04-10 7:52 PM Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 7:49 PM And on another note. No one knows what happened between the warrant be served and to where video is. Who knows what he might have done to the officers themselves before it got to this point. You must have a learning disability.
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | If these were such upstanding cops that were worried about public safety, as soon as the perp was handcuffed they would have made sure the horse was restrained and caught so that it didn't run off and get in the road & cause an accident. There were 8+ cops there and no one grabbed the horse until the end.
As far as there being just a "few" bad apples..... the news reports state that 11 cops took part in beating this guy. The video backs that up. That's an awful lot of "bad apples" in a department, which says to me it's not rogue cops that's the problem, it's the CULTURE within the department that's the problem. I'm sure it's an unwritten rule.
No, the justice system doesn't always work like it should - I have a been a victim of that - but you can't leave it up to a few arbitrary individuals to decide what justice is. If you do, then again we are no better than Mexico or the other counties I've mentioned.That's the same mentality that ISIS operates with.... and yet there's folks on here who seem to be accepting it. |
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| Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 5:11 PM
Here is my other questions.
1. How did he get the horse? She he shove the rider off?
2. How would you feel if it was your horse he stole? And injured?
He car jacked the horse from what our news said. Took from a rider who was on a trail ride. |
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | Whiteboy - 2015-04-10 11:49 AM If I fell off my horse, I'm pretty sure none of them would just stand there. lol The guy deserved it. If you dont want an ass whoopin, dont steal **** and try to run away. If his mother had done more of it when he was young he would have learned his lesson then.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-10 9:47 PM Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 5:11 PM Here is my other questions. 1. How did he get the horse? She he shove the rider off? 2. How would you feel if it was your horse he stole? And injured? He car jacked the horse from what our news said. Took from a rider who was on a trail ride.
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| I live in southern California where this took place. It is all over our news. The news just reported that the suspect threatened a female officer and then stole the horse after fleeing by car. They interviewed his girlfriend who commented how difficult it was to watch her boyfriend be so brutally beaten.  |
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Location: CA | Haha, I'd LOVE to truely hear everyone's opinions if it was THEIR horse that was stolen and injured. It's always easy to sit on that high horse, until of course, someone yanks it out from under you and takes it for a joyride in the desert! |
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| Grunt - 2015-04-10 10:41 PM
Haha, I'd LOVE to truely hear everyone's opinions if it was THEIR horse that was stolen and injured. It's always easy to sit on that high horse, until of course, someone yanks it out from under you and takes it for a joyride in the desert!
You can believe I would **** stomp anyone that intentionally harmed one of our horses, but thats not the job of LAW ENFORCEMENT officials. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Grunt - 2015-04-10 10:41 PM Haha, I'd LOVE to truely hear everyone's opinions if it was THEIR horse that was stolen and injured. It's always easy to sit on that high horse, until of course, someone yanks it out from under you and takes it for a joyride in the desert!
Well if that ever happen to me where someone pulls or knocked me off my horse and haul's booty on him and hurts my baby it sure would not be pretty for that person when I caught up with them. I agree the guy is a total puke, but the cops should not have giving that puke such a beating, maybe good kick in the a**, but if I was the owner of the horse he would have gotton more then a kick from me.  |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-10 10:49 PM
Grunt - 2015-04-10 10:41 PM Haha, I'd LOVE to truely hear everyone's opinions if it was THEIR horse that was stolen and injured. It's always easy to sit on that high horse, until of course, someone yanks it out from under you and takes it for a joyride in the desert!
Well if that ever happen to me where someone pulls or knocked me off my horse and haul's booty on him and hurts my baby it sure would not be pretty for that person when I caught up with them. I agree the guy is a total puke, but the cops should not have giving that puke such a beating, maybe good kick in the a**, but if I was the owner of the horse he would have gotton more then a kick from me.
Well.. lets put it like this.... had it been me when I caught him he would have been praying for the cops to show up and give him the beating he got just to get me off his a$$... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | komet. - 2015-04-10 10:59 PM Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-10 10:49 PM Grunt - 2015-04-10 10:41 PM Haha, I'd LOVE to truely hear everyone's opinions if it was THEIR horse that was stolen and injured. It's always easy to sit on that high horse, until of course, someone yanks it out from under you and takes it for a joyride in the desert! Well if that ever happen to me where someone pulls or knocked me off my horse and haul's booty on him and hurts my baby it sure would not be pretty for that person when I caught up with them. I agree the guy is a total puke, but the cops should not have giving that puke such a beating, maybe good kick in the a**, but if I was the owner of the horse he would have gotton more then a kick from me. Well.. lets put it like this.... had it been me when I caught him he would have been praying for the cops to show up and give him the beating he got just to get me off his a$$...
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You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... |
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| EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM
I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us....
You repeatedly kick someone in the sack that is handcuffed.
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Everyone wants to argue and say "Well I was just doing this, not what you thought I was, blah, blah blah". I have a lot of friends that are cops and being on edge naturally goes with the job. When you ask someone to put their hands up and they go to reach in their pockets are you going to wait in see if they pull out a cell phone or a gun?!?!?! No, your gonna shoot the a-hole that can't seem to understand a simple instruction of "STOP, put your hands up!". Don't take that time to talk back to the guys with the guns or reach for whatever b*lls*it item that is in your pockets you want to show the cops. Sorry, I jst don't have a lot of sympathy for a lot of these idiots that shut down freeways, lead cops on these crazy chases endangering innocent bystanders and then want sympathy when they get their a** beat. STOP THE FIRST TIME, LISTEN TO INSTRUCTIONS AND IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN! JMO.
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Location: Arkansas | Grunt - 2015-04-10 10:41 PM
Haha, I'd LOVE to truely hear everyone's opinions if it was THEIR horse that was stolen and injured. It's always easy to sit on that high horse, until of course, someone yanks it out from under you and takes it for a joyride in the desert!
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Location: Arkansas | Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-10 10:49 PM
Grunt - 2015-04-10 10:41 PM Haha, I'd LOVE to truely hear everyone's opinions if it was THEIR horse that was stolen and injured. It's always easy to sit on that high horse, until of course, someone yanks it out from under you and takes it for a joyride in the desert!
Well if that ever happen to me where someone pulls or knocked me off my horse and haul's booty on him and hurts my baby it sure would not be pretty for that person when I caught up with them. I agree the guy is a total puke, but the cops should not have giving that puke such a beating, maybe good kick in the a**, but if I was the owner of the horse he would have gotton more then a kick from me.
If it was my baby they stole, they would WANT the cops to get to them before I did. Sad to say that video was mild compared to what I would have done to them. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 10:15 AM News just reported that he broke into a home and stole a motorcycle for the first leg of his escape. They interviewed the home owners. He was already on probation for other crimes therefore convicted in a court of law. He was guilty before he started his crazy escape. THe commissioner has suspended all officers with pay pending investigation. I would love to talk to them about their side of it.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario!
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| NJJ - 2015-04-12 12:18 PM EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario!
Exactly. There's more. If you had a personal stake in this, such as; it was your horse, or you were hurt...then if YOU beat him up, that's understandable since you are emotionally invested....but...these cops are supposed to be cops. Not emotionally invested, just take him in and let the courts go from there.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I really dont see anyone defending this loser, its just that the cops took it to far once again, it just takes one bad apple to get things going. I'm saying if this puke stole my horse and I caught up with him I would have kicked the crud out of him.The cops should have just did their job by catching him and hauling his butt in but they were like a pack of dogs that wanted a piece of the action. |
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EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario!
I don't agree. I don't care if he spread eagle and gave up, fell off the horse etc he made a choice a long long time before that when he broke the law by running from police. Then he made a choice to steal the motor cycle. Then he made a choice to steal the horse. It wasn't until he finally got cornered that he finally gave up by that time he had broken several laws not to mention what ever law made the cops look for him in the first place ( identity theft). So him laying down on the desert floor spread eagle was the end. Maybe had he made better choices from the very beginning and spread eagle when the cops showed up he wouldn't have got his just consequences. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 2:16 PM NJJ - 2015-04-11 12:18 PM EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario!
I don't agree. I don't care if he spread eagle and gave up, fell off the horse etc he made a choice a long long time before that when he broke the law by running from police. Then he made a choice to steal the motor cycle. Then he made a choice to steal the horse. It wasn't until he finally got cornered that he finally gave up by that time he had broken several laws not to mention what ever law made the cops look for him in the first place ( identity theft ). So him laying down on the desert floor spread eagle was the end. Maybe had he made better choices from the very beginning and spread eagle when the cops showed up he wouldn't have got his just consequences.
Then you see no need for courts or trials? No need for police either then...heck we could all take the law into our own hands & life would be great...oh, they call that anarchy.
BTW...a policeman's 'peace' can't be disturbed.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | musikmaker - 2015-04-11 4:01 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 2:16 PM NJJ - 2015-04-11 12:18 PM EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario!
I don't agree. I don't care if he spread eagle and gave up, fell off the horse etc he made a choice a long long time before that when he broke the law by running from police. Then he made a choice to steal the motor cycle. Then he made a choice to steal the horse. It wasn't until he finally got cornered that he finally gave up by that time he had broken several laws not to mention what ever law made the cops look for him in the first place ( identity theft ). So him laying down on the desert floor spread eagle was the end. Maybe had he made better choices from the very beginning and spread eagle when the cops showed up he wouldn't have got his just consequences.
BTW...a policeman's 'peace' can't be disturbed.
I agree, MM.....who needs laws? who needs the LE....just go back to the "wild west".........just because they have a BADGE does NOT give them the right to beat down a guy that was NOT a threat............ |
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Location: So. California | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 1:16 PM NJJ - 2015-04-11 12:18 PM EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario! I don't agree. I don't care if he spread eagle and gave up, fell off the horse etc he made a choice a long long time before that when he broke the law by running from police. Then he made a choice to steal the motor cycle. Then he made a choice to steal the horse. It wasn't until he finally got cornered that he finally gave up by that time he had broken several laws not to mention what ever law made the cops look for him in the first place ( identity theft ). So him laying down on the desert floor spread eagle was the end. Maybe had he made better choices from the very beginning and spread eagle when the cops showed up he wouldn't have got his just consequences.
LEO were serving a search warrant related to an idenity theft case. He fled in a vehicle (don't know who owned the car) and then drove to the ranch, where he stole a horse and took off in the middle of the desert. The rest is on video.
He was booked on the following Charges: Evading peace officers (vc2800.2(A), theft of a horse (PC487A(A) and possession of stolen property (PC496). The arrest records are public so feel free to look them up, it was easy.
Whatever else you are hearing or reading on the news, may or may not be factual but he wasn't booked on any other charges.
LEO were out of line. They violated his civil rights and caused physical harm. Now the FBI is investigating the incident, as that particular law enforcement agency is already under investigation for excess of use of force. Hmm... what does that tell you about the video?
What do you think will happen to the criminal? This is what I think will happen... He'll plea bargin his charges down (excessive use of force), sue the county and walk away a millionaire after doing a year or 5 in jail. What a bonehead move by LEO....
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| I am headed outside to ride, but watch this link. It shows a different perspective on this incident. Leave it to CNN to edit on the side of the criminal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmIEqu9ihfs
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Location: So. California | Full of Beans - 2015-04-11 2:47 PM I am headed outside to ride, but watch this link. It shows a different perspective on this incident. Leave it to CNN to edit on the side of the criminal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmIEqu9ihfs
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Location: Red Raiderland | My husband is a former Dallas and Amarillo police officer and he watched the video last night and definitely agrees these cops went overboard. He said you can't lose your head no matter how frustrated a guy/gal makes you. He said there were only a few cops that he worked with that were overzealous but a huge percentage(99%) do what they are trained to do which is arrest, if necessary, and let the courts take it from there and they were usually back out on the streets to be arrested AGAIN but that is part of being a cop, it's usually a thankless job.
He was in MANY chases both in cars and on foot and your adrenaline does get going but no matter how wicked the people are you just can't lose your cool. He was working an off duty job at KMART and dirty, rotten murderer and rapist(yes, he was paroled) tried to steal a carton of cigs and my husband "tried" to stop him just out the door and the dude took off. The chase was on and when my husband caught him the guy tried to punch my husband out and steal his gun. They were both bloodied and people could not figure out what was going on as they thought it was two guys fighting because my hubby was in plain clothes. From the Kmart the guy was able to make it to I-40 where he got all the way across all four lanes and turned around and laughed at my husband and shot him the bird only to turn around up there with his hands high when cops were on the other side! My husband tore his left should in the scuffle but it was just what goes with the territory. He had to have surgery but 20 years since it now gives him trouble.
Criminals run a lot and it is up to the office to chase or not but they mostly run knowing they won't be shot, except if your in S.C.
I hate criminals with a passion but cops need to make sure they follow the law and not make it personal. It is friggin scary to pull a car over no matter where it is. They have no idea who is in the vehicle! I'm so thankful for cops as I would not want to do this for a living. |
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| musikmaker - 2015-04-11 2:01 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 2:16 PM NJJ - 2015-04-11 12:18 PM EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario!
I don't agree. I don't care if he spread eagle and gave up, fell off the horse etc he made a choice a long long time before that when he broke the law by running from police. Then he made a choice to steal the motor cycle. Then he made a choice to steal the horse. It wasn't until he finally got cornered that he finally gave up by that time he had broken several laws not to mention what ever law made the cops look for him in the first place ( identity theft ). So him laying down on the desert floor spread eagle was the end. Maybe had he made better choices from the very beginning and spread eagle when the cops showed up he wouldn't have got his just consequences.
BTW...a policeman's 'peace' can't be disturbed.
Not at all. What I'm saying is, if you make choices that get you in trouble , MAN UP to the consequences! Get arrested and go get your free trial, free lawyer, and jury by your peers. If you make choices to run and involve the public and other people's property , be prepared to get whooped when you get caught ! |
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Location: Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 6:26 PM musikmaker - 2015-04-11 2:01 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 2:16 PM NJJ - 2015-04-11 12:18 PM EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario!
I don't agree. I don't care if he spread eagle and gave up, fell off the horse etc he made a choice a long long time before that when he broke the law by running from police. Then he made a choice to steal the motor cycle. Then he made a choice to steal the horse. It wasn't until he finally got cornered that he finally gave up by that time he had broken several laws not to mention what ever law made the cops look for him in the first place ( identity theft ). So him laying down on the desert floor spread eagle was the end. Maybe had he made better choices from the very beginning and spread eagle when the cops showed up he wouldn't have got his just consequences.
BTW...a policeman's 'peace' can't be disturbed.
Not at all. What I'm saying is, if you make choices that get you in trouble , MAN UP to the consequences! Get arrested and go get your free trial, free lawyer, and jury by your peers. If you make choices to run and involve the public and other people's property , be prepared to get whooped when you get caught !
If it is ok to do it to someone who "deserves" it, then where is the line drawn? If it is ok for one person to get beat down who is to say it wouldn't be ok for someone to be beat down that just was unlucky enough to get the cop that just spilled his drink in his lap and was mad.
I'm not defending the guy, but there have to be rules for the cops to follow or it will just completely get out of hand.
While I would be all for the "bad guys" getting a little extra jab for being idiots... I don't want law enforcement to have that kind of control. Who would be considered a "bad guy". I also had a cop in my family, and boy was he dirty. People like him are the reason I don't want cops to be able to have that much say so in who gets the beating for doing something wrong.
I do know what you are saying, and some what agree. Follow the laws or follow instructions when you break a law and you won't have any problems. I don't want the cop being able to decide he can beat the snot out of me because he thought the law I broke warranted a beat down. |
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 6:26 PM
musikmaker - 2015-04-11 2:01 PM
FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 2:16 PM NJJ - 2015-04-11 12:18 PM EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario!
I don't agree. I don't care if he spread eagle and gave up, fell off the horse etc he made a choice a long long time before that when he broke the law by running from police. Then he made a choice to steal the motor cycle. Then he made a choice to steal the horse. It wasn't until he finally got cornered that he finally gave up by that time he had broken several laws not to mention what ever law made the cops look for him in the first place ( identity theft ). So him laying down on the desert floor spread eagle was the end. Maybe had he made better choices from the very beginning and spread eagle when the cops showed up he wouldn't have got his just consequences.
BTW...a policeman's 'peace' can't be disturbed.
Not at all. What I'm saying is, if you make choices that get you in trouble , MAN UP to the consequences! Get arrested and go get your free trial, free lawyer, and jury by your peers. If you make choices to run and involve the public and other people's property , be prepared to get whooped when you get caught !
Really!! What law are you quoting? Where is it written in any law that gives ANY officer the right to Punish anyone. We once went to WAR with a King over that vary issue. |
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| This will be my last post on this topic. lol Everyone has their opinion on what happened. THis is how it could have been avoided,
Cop knocks on door of suspect " Mr._______, this is the police department, We have a warrant out for your arrest for the crime of Identity theft"
Suspect: " Yes sir, that's me"
Cop " Place your hands behind your back your under arrest" cops cuff suspect and place him in squad car.
" You have the right to remain silent__________________________________________"
Suspect is booked, calls attorney, suspect gets a fair trial by his peers.
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | Remove the theft and possible abuse of a horse from this and we'd hear very different opinions on this forum ( I hope?!). Regardless...it's not ok for cops to beat the sh** of of anyone. When they do they aren't any better than the perp. They become criminals at that point.
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| Anniemae - 2015-04-11 2:53 PM
Full of Beans - 2015-04-11 2:47 PM I am headed outside to ride, but watch this link. It shows a different perspective on this incident. Leave it to CNN to edit on the side of the criminal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmIEqu9ihfs
I was referring to the OP's original post. Her link was to a CNN version of the actual broadcast. In my opinion, it was a totally different slant. Sure would love to hear how this whole thing unfolded from a non-biased source. |
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| I have to say though, I am about fed up with all these police brutality videos. I will not argue that excessive force isn't used by some cops who get carried away, but I know it isn't the norm out of the thousands of calls that law enforcement respond to daily. From what I could tell, the suspect was not complying. Look closely. The first cop who tazed him and then sat on him was struggling with him. Can't get a super clear view of it but it looks that way to me. Actual audio of the event from the ground sure would clear a lot of the hearsay up. I find it ironic that many people on this forum will argue until the cows come home on the lunacy of a PETA or SHARK video, yet can't see that some of these police videos can be slanted to look bad for the cops. Do any of us know the story behind this video or how it got to where it was at? Nope. I know someone personally who lives in the neighborhood where this guy was living. This guy and his buddies have been stealing, doing drugs, and shooting neighborhood dogs for quite some time. When confronted by law enforcement, this guy ran, and through tougher terrain. I would have been pizzed. Knowing this piece of the story gave me a little more knowledge, but I still don't know the whole story. I will say that I have let my emotions get the best of me in situations in my life that I am not proud of. Doesn't mean I shouldn't be a mother, wife, ride horses, etc.
Edited to add: That horse rocks! My mare would have been in the next county before they caught her with all that going on.lol
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| FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 7:47 PM Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 5:11 PM Here is my other questions. 1. How did he get the horse? She he shove the rider off? 2. How would you feel if it was your horse he stole? And injured? He car jacked the horse from what our news said. Took from a rider who was on a trail ride.
And its a felony to steal a horse in california but that would be the least of his worries if it was my horse
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Location: Texas!! | Full of Beans - 2015-04-11 11:18 PM
Anniemae - 2015-04-11 2:53 PM
Full of Beans - 2015-04-11 2:47 PM I am headed outside to ride, but watch this link. It shows a different perspective on this incident. Leave it to CNN to edit on the side of the criminal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmIEqu9ihfs
I was referring to the OP's original post. Her link was to a CNN version of the actual broadcast. In my opinion, it was a totally different slant. Sure would love to hear how this whole thing unfolded from a non-biased source.
Oh my gosh! He was sure hard on that horse! It looked like the horse hurt it's back leg, does anyone know how it's doing? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I haven't read this entire thread, but I watched the video, and it speaks for itself. This is not an example of some isolated rogue or deranged cop. This is a gang beating. What I find most disturbing is that this sort of thing is not new. The Jack-booted Nazi brown shirts did it in 1938. The SS recruited Jews to do this kind of thing to fellow Jews in 1941.....those were called pogroms, and if you watch films from that era, you can see how these guys were engaged in a gang beating, just like the Nazi's did. First, 1 or 2 cops took this guy down......and then the frenzy began, and before it was over, a dozen cops came running to get in on the pummeling. It was like a pack of wolves or hyenas drawn in to rip apart a carcass. All I can do is shake my head when someone tries to rationalize this insanity.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Bear - 2015-04-12 11:28 AM I haven't read this entire thread, but I watched the video, and it speaks for itself. This is not an example of some isolated rogue or deranged cop. This is a gang beating. What I find most disturbing is that this sort of thing is not new. The Jack-booted Nazi brown shirts did it in 1938. The SS recruited Jews to do this kind of thing to fellow Jews in 1941.....those were called pogroms, and if you watch films from that era, you can see how these guys were engaged in a gang beating, just like the Nazi's did. First, 1 or 2 cops took this guy down......and then the frenzy began, and before it was over, a dozen cops came running to get in on the pummeling. It was like a pack of wolves or hyenas drawn in to rip apart a carcass. All I can do is shake my head when someone tries to rationalize this insanity. This tells me one thing. If you don't think a "police state" is possible in this country, then you are incredibly naive.
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Location: SE Missouri | Herbie - 2015-04-10 11:56 AM
I'd really like to own that horse....that is one good sucker! As for the dude, that's much better treatment than horse thieves (or any kind of thieves for that matter) used to receive when caught.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | aqhabarrelchic1 - 2015-04-12 12:15 AM
FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 7:47 PM Firemanswife - 2015-04-10 5:11 PM Here is my other questions. 1. How did he get the horse? She he shove the rider off? 2. How would you feel if it was your horse he stole? And injured? He car jacked the horse from what our news said. Took from a rider who was on a trail ride.
So, I guess a gang of cops ought to have some discretion. I guess that would lighten the load on our courts. Let a gang of thugs with badges and billy clubs arrest people suspected of crimes and just beat the he!! out of them. Vigilante justice will be reborn. Mob rule will replace due process.
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| Bear - 2015-04-13 9:28 AM I haven't read this entire thread, but I watched the video, and it speaks for itself. This is not an example of some isolated rogue or deranged cop. This is a gang beating. What I find most disturbing is that this sort of thing is not new. The Jack-booted Nazi brown shirts did it in 1938. The SS recruited Jews to do this kind of thing to fellow Jews in 1941.....those were called pogroms, and if you watch films from that era, you can see how these guys were engaged in a gang beating, just like the Nazi's did. First, 1 or 2 cops took this guy down......and then the frenzy began, and before it was over, a dozen cops came running to get in on the pummeling. It was like a pack of wolves or hyenas drawn in to rip apart a carcass. All I can do is shake my head when someone tries to rationalize this insanity. This tells me one thing. If you don't think a "police state" is possible in this country, then you are incredibly naive.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 3:16 PM
NJJ - 2015-04-11 12:18 PM
EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario!
I don't agree. I don't care if he spread eagle and gave up, fell off the horse etc he made a choice a long long time before that when he broke the law by running from police. Then he made a choice to steal the motor cycle. Then he made a choice to steal the horse. It wasn't until he finally got cornered that he finally gave up by that time he had broken several laws not to mention what ever law made the cops look for him in the first place ( identity theft ). So him laying down on the desert floor spread eagle was the end. Maybe had he made better choices from the very beginning and spread eagle when the cops showed up he wouldn't have got his just consequences.
"Just consequences"? Congratulations......you have just been awarded an honorary doctorate from Arayan Nation University of America....A.N.U.S. |
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| Bear - 2015-04-12 5:48 PM FLITASTIC - 2015-04-11 3:16 PM NJJ - 2015-04-11 12:18 PM EqualRanch - 2015-04-10 11:23 PM I will say 99% of the time I side with police officers, not only because my father has been in law enforcement for over 25 years and is now a Texas Ranger, but because this country needs some dang discipline.
You are breaking the law, if:
- You run from a police officer
- If you strike or attempt harm on a police officer
- Steal; take something that does NOT belong to you
What is so hard to understand about that?!
Then we have people defending criminals.... And people wonder why we have to lock our doors at night, lock all our trucks/trailers at barrel races and carry guns on us.... Who the h*ll is defending the criminal......Just because he is guilty of any of the offenses that you mentioned, does NOT give the "thug" cops (EIGHT of them) the right to kick the sh*t out of him.....He went to the ground (with a little help from the horse....lol) but was not "taken down" and immediately put his hands behind his back to be cuffed....he posed NO danger to anyone and the cops BROKE THE LAW when they gave him the "beat down". Had he been fighting the cops or had a weapon, etc....then it would be a whole other scenario!
I don't agree. I don't care if he spread eagle and gave up, fell off the horse etc he made a choice a long long time before that when he broke the law by running from police. Then he made a choice to steal the motor cycle. Then he made a choice to steal the horse. It wasn't until he finally got cornered that he finally gave up by that time he had broken several laws not to mention what ever law made the cops look for him in the first place ( identity theft ). So him laying down on the desert floor spread eagle was the end. Maybe had he made better choices from the very beginning and spread eagle when the cops showed up he wouldn't have got his just consequences. "Just consequences"? Congratulations......you have just been awarded an honorary doctorate from Arayan Nation University of America....A.N.U.S.
Regardless of all the poor choices this creep made that led to the chase and his arrest, at some point the police have to control their emotions and behave better than the criminals. The ones with the badges are suppose to set the example not lower themselves to the same level as the criminals. |
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| The sad part is after the sheriff's lack of judgment on this. He will more than likely get a slap on the hand and a really big check from the county. |
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Location: So. California | jbhoot - 2015-04-12 4:33 PM
The sad part is after the sheriff's lack of judgment on this. He will more than likely get a slap on the hand and a really big check from the county.
Please explain the "sheriff's lack of judgement... "
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Proud to be Deplorable
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| Anniemae - 2015-04-12 6:39 PM
jbhoot - 2015-04-12 4:33 PM
The sad part is after the sheriff's lack of judgment on this. He will more than likely get a slap on the hand and a really big check from the county.
Please explain the "sheriff's lack of judgement... "
If you can not see their lack of judgment I really can't explain it to you. It is pretty darn clear they went beyond reasonable force in the handling of the subject. It really makes no difference what he did they went to far. |
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| I don't get how we are even arguing over this.
What if this crime happened by one of our sons hopped up on an illegal drug? What if, unfortunately your kid gets handed some rotten drug and they freak out and go and do something as stupid as this guy....would you still think this kind of gang style beating is acceptable? I thought about this all day and I think the ONLY time I would applaud this behavior from the cops were if the criminal stole someone's CHILD. HUMAN BABY.... that would probably be the only thing I could see where a cop might not be able to restrain himself. |
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 Go For It!
Location: Texas | Bear - 2015-04-12 11:28 AM
I haven't read this entire thread, but I watched the video, and it speaks for itself. This is not an example of some isolated rogue or deranged cop. This is a gang beating. What I find most disturbing is that this sort of thing is not new. The Jack-booted Nazi brown shirts did it in 1938. The SS recruited Jews to do this kind of thing to fellow Jews in 1941.....those were called pogroms, and if you watch films from that era, you can see how these guys were engaged in a gang beating, just like the Nazi's did. First, 1 or 2 cops took this guy down......and then the frenzy began, and before it was over, a dozen cops came running to get in on the pummeling. It was like a pack of wolves or hyenas drawn in to rip apart a carcass. All I can do is shake my head when someone tries to rationalize this insanity.
This tells me one thing. If you don't think a "police state" is possible in this country, then you are incredibly naive.
I totally agree with this... The problem here is much deeper than what we see in this video. If we start allowing our "peace officers" to act like this, then we are setting ourselves up for LOTS of trouble in the future. If you think that a police state can't happen in America... think again. Look what our government has become. The police state is one of the next steps. It's sad, no matter what side you're on. This wasn't a beating for justice, it was a beating for revenge. It's a shame that none of those officers took control and stopped that situation. Personally, those guys aren't the sharpest tools in the shed anyway. There was a helicopter with a camera filming everything.
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BHW Resident Surgeon
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Remember when Obama said we need a "Civilian National Security Force" that is "just as strong and just as well funded as our military"? Imagine a "national security force" made up of guys like the ones in this video. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Bear - 2015-04-13 8:47 AM Remember when Obama said we need a "Civilian National Security Force" that is "just as strong and just as well funded as our military"? Imagine a "national security force" made up of guys like the ones in this video.
The problem I see, is that those of us who were made to study history - and in a specific age group - I hate to call us older - remember everything that happened in Europe. And the younger generations think we are just blowing smoke when it comes to a "police state" type of government. That it can't happen here.
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | It happened a year ago in Bunkerville, NV...until people armed themselves and said, "No".
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | 3canstorun - 2015-04-13 8:33 AM Bear - 2015-04-13 8:47 AM Remember when Obama said we need a "Civilian National Security Force" that is "just as strong and just as well funded as our military"? Imagine a "national security force" made up of guys like the ones in this video. The problem I see, is that those of us who were made to study history - and in a specific age group - I hate to call us older - remember everything that happened in Europe. And the younger generations think we are just blowing smoke when it comes to a "police state" type of government. That it can't happen here.
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BHW Resident Surgeon
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | It's real easy, even if you are well educated in history, to get sucked in to the temptation of a lot of government "programs". The Patriot Act is one example where I was lured into thinking it made perfect sense. On the surface, to many, the concept of a "National Civilian Security Force" might seem like a good idea that makes sense.....until one stops and realizes what this really means. Our federal government is like a runaway train that is bloated and can't be fed enough. Getting an increasingly greater percentage of our citizens dependent on our federal government for jobs, support, or programs bolsters the political party that loves to promote growth in these programs, namely progressive democrats. A militarized civilian sector is just one step closer to enabling full blown tyranny to becoming reality. |
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