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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Ok, really didn't know how to title this one. And yes I know every horse is different. But I am looking for another barrel horse and I really am not a bloodline guru. I know some, but that's about it. So I would love to hear everyone's opinions on "User Friendly"bloodlines. I see posts about certain bloodlines that just about anyone can ride, or others that are typically a hard headed sort of line. And I get that everyone has different opinions, but was curious what people thought about what types that are usually easier types of horses in the long run. Thanks  |
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| For me... I've gotten along impeccably well with pleasure lineage. I've ridden several that are pleasure bred (not trained. It's too difficult to remove a spur stop for me) and they have been really easy to train on. They have the speed that few rarely think about and have a trainable mind. But that's just me!
I've ridden only one Dinero baby and loved her. She had just been a kids lesson horse and started her on the pattern. That horse was disgustingly natural. Didn't stand any higher than 14.2 and could clock in the big pens. She made me a believer in his babies.
If I ever have the opportunity to buy another, I will in a heart beat.
I'd steer clear of some of the racier lineage. I have a son of Achievement (Beduino x Florentine) and out of a foundation running mare. I adore him. Hes fast. Hes sweet. Hes built just right. BUT he's 10 this year and I feel as though he is just starting to mature mentally.
You have to find what you like too. I get along with Impressive bred horses... many don't. Just gotta find what you enjoy riding. |
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Thanks, I know I have to find what I mesh with. There are some that I know I don't care for. I had a couple Sambo Watts geldings a long time ago and even though I had them at different times, I didn't mesh with them at all. I have one mare now that I feel that she will be a great horse for me...in about 3-5 years when she finally matures. And she is older race breeding. It seems that I'm finding all the horses that I don't mesh well with. LOL!! |
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Location: Here | GLP - 2015-04-26 7:03 AM Firewater Flit I agree. on Firewater. I also like Tres seis's and ivory james as far as temperment
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Thanks for all the input :) |
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| Firewater Finale and Mighty Mind Bender. There aren't many Benders in the world but if you find one you won't be sorry. I have two right now and their minds are second to none plus they're athletic as all get out. Love love love them.
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Location: Montana | I was thinking about asking a similar question recently. But, I think every person fits different with different horses. I think, though, that some horses are just easier to get along with. But personally, I'm still testing out different bloodlines, LOL. Around here quite a few people like Darkelly bred horses, I know my trainer does, but I have no personally experience. It also seems like First Down Dash breds are pretty popular too, but there are a whole lotta different bloodlines to go around. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I love the Sugar Bar, Streakin Six, FireWaterFlit, Rocket Wranger, Three Oh's bred horses a whole lot. But to me just really depends on how your personaliy and the horses click. There is just so many great bloodline's out there that just hung the moon out there to me  |
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Location: Missouri | Southtxponygirl - 2015-04-26 12:45 PM I love the Sugar Bar, Streakin Six, FireWaterFlit, Rocket Wranger, Three Oh's bred horses a whole lot. But to me just really depends on how your personaliy and the horses click. There is just so many great bloodline's out there that just hung the moon out there to me
My 21 y/o Three Ohs grandson hung my moon and stars 
The sweetest horse I've been around is my Treasured Too/Kitaman mare. But she's also very sensitive. She has to be treated just right (if you get hard on her, you'll pay forever.)
My hardest, by FAR!!!!!! is my race x foundation bred 5 y/o. I couldn't have another like him.    
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | User friendly describes the FWF's to a T.
There are so many great bloodlines out there but you asked for User Friendly and that fits FWF's more then any other bloodline I can think of.
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Location: Lost in the corn of Iowa. | Thanks for all the input. I couldn't agree more that it really does depend on the perosonalities of the horse and the rider and how they mesh well together. It is wonderful to hear the different takes as well and the reasons behind them too. Thanks :) |
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Location: WYOMING | Mr TT Pacific throws babies that even beginners can break. They are so easy, people oriented and pretty much take to barrel training like a fish to water... |
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| roanrider - 2015-04-26 11:31 AM Firewater Finale and Mighty Mind Bender. There aren't many Benders in the world but if you find one you won't be sorry. I have two right now and their minds are second to none plus they're athletic as all get out. Love love love them.
Thank you. I just added the video you posted to Bender's FB page. It is so...typical. |
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Location: Somewhere playing in the mud....Oklahoma | geronabean - 2015-04-26 3:51 PM Mr TT Pacific throws babies that even beginners can break. They are so easy, people oriented and pretty much take to barrel training like a fish to water...
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Location: Oklahoma | I really think the Driftwood/Blue Valentines are great user friendly bloodlines. |
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Location: NE Texas | I have to say these two babies i've gotten that are by El Scorcho are the most user friendly horses i've ever messed with. They just get it and are born almost broke I think. Both out of running bred mares, the grey filly out of a TB mare and both of them are just as great minded as can be and have handled everything I have thrown at them so far. |
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Location: Kansas | Agreed with BV and driftwood, I like my sun frost.....he's easy to please, works hard |
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| TwistedK - 2015-05-15 3:08 PM I really think the Driftwood/Blue Valentines are great user friendly bloodlines.
Ok - Can ya maybe be more specific please .... because within those lines there are some @$$hats that I have personally had to deal with - And, to be real fair, BV was born in what 1955 or 56? And Driftwood was like 1932. A direct son or daughter of either would be dang old now ....
OP - when I think bloodlines, I think direct daughters or sons of something. When we are looking at the temperament of offspring, the mare has quite a lot to do with it too.
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Location: Oklahoma | hoofs_in_motion - 2015-05-15 3:11 PM
Agreed with BV and driftwood, I like my sun frost.....he's easy to please, works hard
I agree on the Sun Frost... extremely versatile. Must say Sun Frost/Lone Drifter crossed on a speed stallion too is and can be user friendly |
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Location: Oklahoma | lindseylou2290 - 2015-05-15 3:15 PM
TwistedK - 2015-05-15 3:08 PM I really think the Driftwood/Blue Valentines are great user friendly bloodlines.
Ok - Can ya maybe be more specific please .... because within those lines there are some @$$hats that I have personally had to deal with - And, to be real fair, BV was born in what 1955 or 56? And Driftwood was like 1932. A direct son or daughter of either would be dang old now ....
OP - when I think bloodlines, I think direct daughters or sons of something. When we are looking at the temperament of offspring, the mare has quite a lot to do with it too.
JMO.
Rafter Blu (Cross Spur stud) on a Sun Frost bred mare and any of the horses out of the Cross Spur Program that go back to Driftwood/Sun Frost/Blu Valentine/ and certain Hancock lines are very user friendly. I agree that there are some that can be buckers, etc... but I ride older lines. I don't want the DTF, etc. I want the all around horse that can go in any arena and do any discipline and is something any member of my family can get on. |
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Location: Kansas | lindseylou2290 - 2015-05-15 3:15 PM TwistedK - 2015-05-15 3:08 PM I really think the Driftwood/Blue Valentines are great user friendly bloodlines. Ok - Can ya maybe be more specific please .... because within those lines there are some @$$hats that I have personally had to deal with - And, to be real fair, BV was born in what 1955 or 56? And Driftwood was like 1932. A direct son or daughter of either would be dang old now ....
OP - when I think bloodlines, I think direct daughters or sons of something. When we are looking at the temperament of offspring, the mare has quite a lot to do with it too.
JMO.
I have a roan filly who's sire has blue valentine on his papers. When I think "bloodlines" I don't necessarily think of direct sons of daughters...because lets face it, your either going to pay big money for one, or your only able to get one by an own son/daughter.
Everyone has their own opinion on lines, there are some race bred lines I don't particularily care for. But then again, I like a little cow in my horses because of versaility.
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Location: North Dakota | I have a dash for cash grandson and I'm not sure if it's him or his breeding or what but he's just the greatest thing since sliced bread. He has the best personality, super easy to work with, and seems athletic though I haven't even come close to pushing him. He's definitely a character and has a lot of expression but does ANYTHING I ask with a "yes ma'am" attitude.
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | LRQHS - 2015-05-15 2:14 PM Streakin Six I'm going to have to Agree!!!!! All of my Streak Olene babies have been super easy. And if I didn't have my boy El Scorcho would be my go to stallion!
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I really like my Firewater Finale so far, but haven't ridden him yet. Hopefully later this summer. Really like my Ivory James mare. We leased a Jackie Bee stud and all his babies were born kid broke. Literally. Their 12 yr old daughter started most under saddle and anyone could ride them. |
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Location: Texas | TwistedK - 2015-05-15 3:21 PM lindseylou2290 - 2015-05-15 3:15 PM TwistedK - 2015-05-15 3:08 PM I really think the Driftwood/Blue Valentines are great user friendly bloodlines. Ok - Can ya maybe be more specific please .... because within those lines there are some @$$hats that I have personally had to deal with - And, to be real fair, BV was born in what 1955 or 56? And Driftwood was like 1932. A direct son or daughter of either would be dang old now ....
OP - when I think bloodlines, I think direct daughters or sons of something. When we are looking at the temperament of offspring, the mare has quite a lot to do with it too.
JMO. Rafter Blu (Cross Spur stud ) on a Sun Frost bred mare and any of the horses out of the Cross Spur Program that go back to Driftwood/Sun Frost/Blu Valentine/ and certain Hancock lines are very user friendly. I agree that there are some that can be buckers, etc... but I ride older lines. I don't want the DTF, etc. I want the all around horse that can go in any arena and do any discipline and is something any member of my family can get on.
I had a colt by Rafter Blu and that horse was the easiest horse I have ever had. Took everything in stride, I don't remember him spooking at anything and it kind of turned into a game to see if he would ever spook at something. He never did. You never had to "teach" him anything, after the first time he just knew it. I had to sell him when I got pregnant and the man that bought him is an old roper and with 30 days on the horse said he was the best minded horse he ever sat on. Never bucked, never freaked about anything. Even my grandpa that is one of those people that can pick a horse apart for every tiny thing brags about how great of a horse he is.
I want that horse back SO BAD! lol Man says he will never sell though :( When I get another horse, if I can't beg, steal, or borrow for my horse back haha, I will be looking for those lines. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | LRQHS - 2015-05-15 3:14 PM Streakin Six
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Location: Montana | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-05-15 2:53 PM I have a dash for cash grandson and I'm not sure if it's him or his breeding or what but he's just the greatest thing since sliced bread. He has the best personality, super easy to work with, and seems athletic though I haven't even come close to pushing him. He's definitely a character and has a lot of expression but does ANYTHING I ask with a "yes ma'am" attitude.
I have one that is a great-grandson of Dash for Cash (still on his papers) and he is pretty much everything you just described. If he gets in a spot, like where he spooks or something, he can be a little bit of a handful, but he is also only a coming 3 year old and I think that has A LOT to do with. After he spooks he just goes back to being his normal self. He's an extremely smart goofball, LOL. |
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Location: Carpenter, WY | Having had a bizillion different lines over the years I'd have to include Tres Seis in the user friendly column :)
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| Personally I like Easy Jet. Frenchmans Guy horses must be easy to train because the have been edging out the Dash Ta Fames at most of the futurities this year. |
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| Frenchmans guy. They work for all types of people. From the weekend warriors, to youth, to the WPRA girls, and futurities. |
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Location: n.c. | cavyrunsbarrels - 2015-05-15 3:53 PM I have a dash for cash grandson and I'm not sure if it's him or his breeding or what but he's just the greatest thing since sliced bread. He has the best personality, super easy to work with, and seems athletic though I haven't even come close to pushing him. He's definitely a character and has a lot of expression but does ANYTHING I ask with a "yes ma'am" attitude.
We have had four Dash for Cash off spring. Every one of them are the exact same way. Easy going, not hot. Easily trained. Picks up everything really quick. Love me some Dash for Cash. |
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| scwebster - 2015-05-17 8:58 AM
Frenchmans guy. They work for all types of people. From the weekend warriors, to youth, to the WPRA girls, and futurities.
I agree. This is why I recommend you save all your dollars to breed to the best you can afford. They are the best with reason.
I thought Sabra Oquins horse was outstanding. I think there were like 5 or 7 FG's in the finals.
I also wanted to add a stud that is no longer but I found to be very user friendly and that is Bully Bullion. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | I'm going to go with NO bloodlines, just get a gelding!!!! You can tell them what to do, you can't tell a MARE, but you can ask!!! ;)
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| Rocket Wrangler, we've had around 75 head of granddaughters and grandsons and they've all been awesome to work with.. It was a sad day when ole Boy Six died...
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Wonders Pal, Wonder Otoe, Bully Bullion, Streakin Six
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What do you consider "User Friendly" bloodlines...