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Location: Gainesville, TX | Who's betting on the Derby and who are you betting for? Are you going to bet on your phone or at the track?
We are going to the track at Lonestar Park this year in Arlington.
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Location: Kentucky | American Pharoah for me! |
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Location: Texas | 1. Firing Line
2. American Pharoah
3. Dortmund i was so close!
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Location: Kansas and loving it | I am not betting, but American Pharaoh for the win. Frosted to place. Ocho Ocho Ocho to show. |
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Location: NM...the Land of Manana | Materiality of course! Last time New Mexico had a horse in the race he didn't do so bad ! |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | American Pharoah !!  Then Dortmund |
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Location: The edge of no where | Lightfoot - 2015-04-27 9:50 AM Materiality of course! Last time New Mexico had a horse in the race he didn't do so bad !
I'm pulling for him as well! He's such a nice pony! |
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Location: Montana | I want to see the post positions before I say, but I'm going for Dortmund, American Pharaoh, and Carpe Diem. |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | I dont know about betting yet. will see who goes to the post on saturday but I really want to know who is naming those big brown babies.... geesh... can they get any worse?? I think some of the BHW super star namers should step up to offer some help.... jus sayin |
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| mtcanchazer - 2015-04-27 12:53 PM I want to see the post positions before I say, but I'm going for Dortmund, American Pharaoh, and Carpe Diem. Same..But, I'm switching American Pharoah and Dortmond!
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Location: Kansas | Dortmund almost looks like the makings of another Secretariat to me.
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Location: Sunny So Cal | It is going to be a close race! I can't wait to watch, very interesting to see. |
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| I have been formulating for TB horses since 2007 and I have had some of the best on my product's. Looking at Lucky, Shared Belief , California Chrome just to name a few and I have been formulating THE DAILY EDGE now for American Pharoe since he has been at the track as 2 year old and this horse is special. He should win this race running away. Also the same goes for Dortmund, he too has shown that he can compete with anyone and win. BUT like all great horses the gate and if the other trainers try to block American Phoroe and can't, he will win. Good luck for both horses and Bob Baffert for believing in THE
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | Dortmund! |
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Location: Memphis, TN | I'm not betting but my picks are 1- American Pharaoh 2- Dortmund 3-Firing Line
I really want to put Dortmund first because I LOVE a big red horse but American Pharaoh looks to have untapped speed.
It is going to be a true race. A lot of early speed. The time should be blazing. |
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Location: Montana | RHRanch - 2015-04-27 11:30 AM mtcanchazer - 2015-04-27 12:53 PM I want to see the post positions before I say, but I'm going for Dortmund, American Pharaoh, and Carpe Diem. Same..But, I'm switching American Pharoah and Dortmond!
I actually didn't put them in any order, just how I remembered the names! LOL. But, I feel like if Dortmund gets a good break and a good post position, he could go wire to wire. I think American Pharaoh has it...if he doesn't draw #20, LOL. Carpe Diem just acts like he is supposed to be there and he's got this. The thing that will be interesting is almost all the good colts this year have early speed...either set the pace or are just off the pace. I think it is going to be a good race this year! I've watched videos of all of those colts run, and they are going to be tough to be...but it is a horse race and may the best horse win!
Luluwhit: Dortmund is named after a German soccer team, at least that is what I heard on the TV when they had the Santa Anita Derby on. :) |
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Location: LuluLand~along I64 Indiana | mtcanchazer - 2015-04-27 11:49 PM RHRanch - 2015-04-27 11:30 AM mtcanchazer - 2015-04-27 12:53 PM I want to see the post positions before I say, but I'm going for Dortmund, American Pharaoh, and Carpe Diem. Same..But, I'm switching American Pharoah and Dortmond!
Luluwhit: Dortmund is named after a German soccer team, at least that is what I heard on the TV when they had the Santa Anita Derby on. :)
german soccer huh??? well who named the filly in the oaks puca???  |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Frodo - 2015-04-27 1:51 PM
Dortmund almost looks like the makings of another Secretariat to me.
Funny you should mention Big Red.... I've not seen a stride like his until I saw Carpe Diem... I'm going with him all the way... |
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| I agree, I need to see where they will Break, but my bet is on Carpe Diem!
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Location: Home....Smiling M Farms | I'm still undecided! lol It's such a tough field this year! |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | rockette - 2015-04-27 9:06 AM
I am not betting, but American Pharaoh for the win. Frosted to place. Ocho Ocho Ocho to show.
I am loving the post position of my picks! |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Post positions & current odds:
1. Ocho Ocho Ocho (50-1)--Elvis Trujillo
2. Carpe Diem (8-1)--John Velasquez
3. Materiality (12-1)--Javier Castellano
4. Tencendur (30-1)--Manny Franco
5. Danzig Moon (30-1)--Julien Leparoux
6. Mubtaahij (20-1)--Cristophe Soumillon
7. El Kabeir (30-1)--Calvin Borel
8. Dortmund (3-1)--Martin Garcia
9. Bolo (30-1)--Rafael Bejarano
10. Firing Line (12-1)--Gary Stevens
11. Stanford (30-1)--Florent Geroux
12. International Star (20-1)--Miguel Mena
13. Itsaknockout (30-1)--Luis Saez
14. Keen Ice (50-1)--James Graham
15. Frosted (15-1)--Joel Rosario
16. War Story (50-1)--Joe Talamo
17. Mr. Z (50-1)--Ramon Vasquez
18. American Pharoah (5-2)--Victor Espinoza
19. Upstart (15-1)--Jose Ortiz
20. Far Right (30-1)--Mike Smith
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Location: Montana | I really like the post positions Dortmund and Carpe Diem got. They are both fast breaks (if they break clean), so it could be a regular horse race at the first, and hopefull last. I don't like American Pharaoh so far out, but if there was any horse that could make up ground, it would be him. I do believe it will be a true horse race this year! |
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Location: Kansas | Too many horses in the gate........as usual. Box a great horse in and take away his chance at the Winners Circle. One of my horse racing pet peeves.
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| Materiality
Dortmund
And a long shot for third...maybe...(just bc it seems there's always a surprise)
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Location: Texas | I think it will be American Pharoah, Far Right and Ocho. Ocho. Ocho. |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | Better get to reposting! We just had a defection and an add on. Now every horse will shift one stall in making AP break from gate 17 and Frosted from gate 14. Now I am miffed. |
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Location: Kentucky | rockette - 2015-04-30 3:31 PM Better get to reposting! We just had a defection and an add on. Now every horse will shift one stall in making AP break from gate 17 and Frosted from gate 14. Now I am miffed.
Stanford has scratched. Frammento now in. |
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| Theses are my picks!....
El Kabeir (30-1)--Calvin Borel
Dortmund (3-1)--Martin Garcia
Firing Line (12-1)--Gary Stevens
These should be 1, 2, 3 and its gonna be a toss up on which one it is...I do not believe American Pharoah will have a dog in the race a horse has never won the Kentucky Derby from the far outside....he may have heart, speed, and breeding but I think the post is gonna get him.
I may be wrong....I have yet to pick a winner since early 90's! lol .... I am so a QH girl.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | PP horse (weight) jockey/trainer odds
1. Ocho Ocho Ocho (126) Trujillo/Cassidy 50-1
2. Carpe Diem (126) Velazquez/Pletcher 8-1
3. Materiality (126) Castellano/Pletcher 12-1
4. Tencendur (126) Franco/Weaver 30-1
5. Danzig Moon (126) Leparoux/Casse 30-1
6. Mubtaahij (126) Soumillon/de Kock 20-1
7. El Kabeir (126) Borel/Terranova 30-1
8. Dortmund (126) Garcia/Baffert 3-1
9. Bolo (126) Bejarano/Gaines 30-1
10. Firing Line (126) Stevens/Callaghan 12-1
11. Stanford (126) Geroux/Pletcher SCR
12. International Star (126) Mena/Maker 20-1
13. Itsaknockout (126) Saez/Pletcher 30-1
14. Keen Ice (126) Desormeaux/Romans 50-1
15. Frosted (126) Rosario/McLaughlin 15-1
16. War Story (126) Talamo/Amoss 50-1
17. Mr. Z (126) Vazquez/Lukas 50-1
18. American Pharoah (126) Espinoza/Baffert 5-2
19. Upstart (126) Ortiz/Violette 15-1
20. Far Right (126) Smith/Moquett 30-1
21. Frammento (126) Nakatani/Zito 50-1 |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | Thanks! |
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Location: sunny california | This way of handicapping is much easier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMsIPmaAILo
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Location: Kansas and loving it | In the Oaks I can't decide. I really like Stellar Wind and Condo Commando, but I love the story of Angela Renee. I pick Manny Pacquiao over Mayweather. Ok. Now I am done. |
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Location: Texas | I thought this was neat...
http://www.americasbestracing.net/en/the-latest/news-stories/2015/4/26/kentucky-derby-contenders-then-and-now |
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| I wonder if this will be remotely accurate!! Ha ha it's stinkin cute regardless!!!
http://www.hrtv.com/racing/puppy-derby/
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Location: Montana | Other than American Pharaoh, it doesn't change much in the way I've been thinking. However, it helps him out a little. I really can't pick between Dortmund, American Pharaoh, and Carpe Diem...I think all three of them have a good shot at winning. It will be interesting... |
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Location: SE Louisiana |
Some of those were pretty scrawny looking babies..  |
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Location: Montana | Warriors Mom - 2015-04-30 2:06 PM Theses are my picks!.... El Kabeir (30-1)--Calvin Borel Dortmund (3-1)--Martin Garcia Firing Line (12-1)--Gary Stevens These should be 1, 2, 3 and its gonna be a toss up on which one it is...I do not believe American Pharoah will have a dog in the race a horse has never won the Kentucky Derby from the far outside....he may have heart, speed, and breeding but I think the post is gonna get him. I may be wrong....I have yet to pick a winner since early 90's! lol .... I am so a QH girl.
Umm, Big Brown won from post position 20 in 2008, but I do see that no starters from 17 post have won (which technically American Pharaoh will be starting from) but there has been winners from post 18. There is always a first for everything. If you go by statistics on post positions since 1975, Firing Line coming from post 10 should win, with Dortmund after that, and Danzig Moon after that.
I'm still going to stick with Dortmund and Carpe Diem, and hopeful for American Pharaoh. Some horses can over come the odds. |
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | I didn't even know ANYTHING about any of them until yesterday. Still don't know who is "supposed to win", nor the odds on any of them.
That said, I'm not "betting". But my "picks" are Itsaknockout and Ocho Ocho Ocho.
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Location: Texas | komet. - 2015-04-30 10:10 PM Some of those were pretty scrawny looking babies..
Rough around the edges for sure! I assumed all race babies were born shiny with long legs and glitter in their manes...  |
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| just placed my bets Frosted and Mr. Z both to show love the odds!!!!
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | El Kabeir has been scratched with a hoof abcess.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | GoGaited - 2015-05-01 6:56 PM
El Kabeir has been scratched with a hoof abcess.
Well durn it. He was one of my favorites.
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Trainer: Cassidy, James M Jockey: Trujillo, Elvis Trainer: Pletcher, Todd A Jockey: Velazquez, John R Trainer: Pletcher, Todd A Jockey: Castellano, Javier Trainer: Weaver, George Jockey: Franco, Manuel Trainer: Casse, Mark E Jockey: Leparoux, Julien R Trainer: De Kock, Michael F Jockey: Soumillon, Christophe Trainer: Terranova; Ii, John P
Jockey: Borel, Calvin H
Trainer: Baffert, Bob Jockey: Garcia, Martin Trainer: Gaines, Carla Jockey: Bejarano, Rafael Trainer: Callaghan, Simon Jockey: Stevens, Gary L Trainer: Pletcher, Todd A
Jockey: Geroux, Florent
Trainer: Maker, Michael J Jockey: Mena, Miguel Trainer: Pletcher, Todd A Jockey: Saez, Luis Trainer: Romans, Dale L Jockey: Desormeaux, Kent J Trainer: Mclaughlin, Kiaran P Jockey: Rosario, Joel Trainer: Amoss, Thomas M Jockey: Talamo, Joseph Trainer: Lukas, D W Jockey: Vazquez, Ramon A Trainer: Baffert, Bob Jockey: Espinoza, Victor Trainer: Violette; Jr, Richard A Jockey: Ortiz, Jose L Trainer: Moquett, Ron Jockey: Smith, Mike E Trainer: Zito, Nicholas P Jockey: Nakatani, Corey S Trainer: Stewart, Dallas
Jockey: Hernandez; Jr, Brian J
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Location: Texas | Who is the total under dog this year? |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | Currently Framento by the odds. I haven't read all the underdog stories. |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | I would loved to be there!. May all of them have a safe trip. |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | We have another scratch! International Star! Oh man! |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | rockette - 2015-04-30 2:31 PM
Better get to reposting! We just had a defection and an add on. Now every horse will shift one stall in making AP break from gate 17 and Frosted from gate 14. Now I am miffed.
With International Star out, American Pharaoh and Frosted move again. Kinda happy now. |
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Location: North Dakota | I CAN'T HANDLE THIS STRESS! I like Dortmund but I'm not sure. I'm actually betting money this year and going crazy. |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | When does NBC contract run out? I am hoping TVG or ABC can get it. I want to see all the horses, not Jon wierdo and Tara icky Lipinski. |
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| rockette - 2015-05-02 3:20 PM When does NBC contract run out? I am hoping TVG or ABC can get it. I want to see all the horses, not Jon wierdo and Tara icky Lipinski. I AGREE! What a disrespect to the race horses, trainers, and owners of those running in earlier races today as well as the Derby. I don't want to learn how to make a $2k mint juliep either. Show me the horses. Show me the background stories on the jockeys, the horses, the trainers, and the owners. Go behind the scenes in the paddocks, interview grooms, or heck just show me what it takes to pull off an event of this magnitude. I certainly do not need to know who wore the wrong darn outfit there! I would love for them to show some of the local stables. Heck I would be happy if they went to show me where they make the Bourbon, but not Johnie and Tara or the other wasteful reports.
I would like to see info on the pony riders, their horses, the outriders, their horses, and the vets on call. Talk about their ambulatory services there. Please speak to people who know something about the horses. Asking celebrities their picks is a waste of time. Josh Groban is a great singer, but I don't care which horse gets his bet. LOL
Off my soapbox, I think.
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Location: Kansas and loving it | sodapop - 2015-05-02 4:03 PM
rockette - 2015-05-02 3:20 PM When does NBC contract run out? I am hoping TVG or ABC can get it. I want to see all the horses, not Jon wierdo and Tara icky Lipinski. I AGREE! What a disrespect to the race horses, trainers, and owners of those running in earlier races today as well as the Derby. I don't want to learn how to make a $2k mint juliep either. Show me the horses. Show me the background stories on the jockeys, the horses, the trainers, and the owners. Go behind the scenes in the paddocks, interview grooms, or heck just show me what it takes to pull off an event of this magnitude. I certainly do not need to know who wore the wrong darn outfit there! I would love for them to show some of the local stables. Heck I would be happy if they went to show me where they make the Bourbon, but not Johnie and Tara or the other wasteful reports.
I would like to see info on the pony riders, their horses, the outriders, their horses, and the vets on call. Talk about their ambulatory services there. Please speak to people who know something about the horses. Asking celebrities their picks is a waste of time. Josh Groban is a great singer, but I don't care which horse gets his bet. LOL
Off my soapbox, I think.
They need to watch the 1995 telecast. I used to watch every year until the VHS tape broke. They were asking the jockeys to describe the Kentucky Derby in one word. Eddie Delahousse said HISTORY. Then a montage of past Derby wins was showed, the owners and jockeys reactions to winning. I miss Jim McKay. |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | Wahoooooool! American Pharaoh! |
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Location: Texas | pinx05 - 2015-04-27 8:40 AM
1. Firing Line
2. American Pharoah
3. Dortmund i was so close!
i hit edit instead of quote. Anyway, i was close. Good race! |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | It was a good race and fun to watch. I seldom go with the favorite in the Derby so my personal picks ran 2nd and 3rd. Not too bad. I don't actually bet any money...just make my picks and watch. From here on out I root for the derby winner. I want to see a Triple Crown winner so badly.
The pre-derby coverage on the other channel actually showed some of the other races on the card. But when it came time to switch channels...We got to see all of that nonsense and just about none of the sort of things true horse racing fans want to see.
One 30 second clip on the fashion/hats by the two silly figure skaters would have been plenty. All their other nonsense was just exactly that. I actually felt embarrassed for them. What was that guy wearing? His pajamas and the table centerpiece from last night's dinner party? Apparently I do not know anything about fashion....and if I wanted to know I'd have been watching the Style channel or something. Seriously |
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So who's betting on the Derby . . . UPDATE PG 3. EL KABEIR SCRATCHES.